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HonestChieffan
08-14-2010, 09:38 AM
London newspapers are a better source of real analysis than any US publication when it comes to the disaster known as Barack.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100050412/the-stunning-decline-of-barack-obama-10-key-reasons-why-the-obama-presidency-is-in-meltdown/


The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

By Nile Gardiner


The last few weeks have been a nightmare for President Obama, in a summer of discontent in the United States which has deeply unsettled the ruling liberal elites, so much so that even the Left has begun to turn against the White House. While the anti-establishment Tea Party movement has gained significant ground and is now a rising and powerful political force to be reckoned with, many of the president’s own supporters as well as independents are rapidly losing faith in Barack Obama, with open warfare breaking out between the White House and the left-wing of the Democratic Party. While conservatism in America grows stronger by the day, the forces of liberalism are growing increasingly weaker and divided.

Against this backdrop, the president’s approval ratings have been sliding dramatically all summer, with the latest Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll of US voters dropping to minus 22 points, the lowest point so far for Barack Obama since taking office. While just 24 per cent of American voters strongly approve of the president’s job performance, almost twice that number, 46 per cent, strongly disapprove. According to Rasmussen, 65 per cent of voters believe the United States is going down the wrong track, including 70 per cent of independents.

The RealClearPolitics average of polls now has President Obama at over 50 per cent disapproval, a remarkably high figure for a president just 18 months into his first term. Strikingly, the latest USA Today/Gallup survey has the President on just 41 per cent approval, with 53 per cent disapproving.

Related link: The Obama presidency increasingly resembles a modern-day Ancien Régime

There are an array of reasons behind the stunning decline and political fall of President Obama, chief among them fears over the current state of the US economy, with widespread concern over high levels of unemployment, the unstable housing market, and above all the towering budget deficit. Americans are increasingly rejecting President Obama’s big government solutions to America’s economic woes, which many fear will lead to the United States sharing the same fate as Greece.

Growing disillusionment with the Obama administration’s handling of the economy as well as health care and immigration has gone hand in hand with mounting unhappiness with the President’s aloof and imperial style of leadership, and a growing perception that he is out of touch with ordinary Americans, especially at a time of significant economic pain. Barack Obama’s striking absence of natural leadership ability (and blatant lack of experience) has played a big part in undermining his credibility with the US public, with his lacklustre handling of the Gulf oil spill coming under particularly intense fire.

On the national security and foreign policy front, President Obama has not fared any better. His leadership on the war in Afghanistan has been confused and at times lacking in conviction, and seemingly dictated by domestic political priorities rather than military and strategic goals. His overall foreign policy has been an appalling mess, with his flawed strategy of engagement of hostile regimes spectacularly backfiring. And as for the War on Terror, his administration has not even acknowledged it is fighting one.

Can it get any worse for President Obama? Undoubtedly yes. Here are 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in serious trouble, and why its prospects are unlikely to improve between now and the November mid-terms.

1. The Obama presidency is out of touch with the American people
In a previous post I noted how the Obama presidency increasingly resembles a modern-day Ancien Régime, extravagant, decaying and out of touch with ordinary Americans. The First Lady’s ill-conceived trip to Spain at a time of widespread economic hardship was symbolic of a White House that barely gives a second thought to public opinion on many issues, and frequently projects a distinctly elitist image. The “let them eat cake” approach didn’t play well over two centuries ago, and it won’t succeed today.

2. Most Americans don’t have confidence in the president’s leadership
This deficit of trust in Obama’s leadership is central to his decline. According to a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll, “nearly six in ten voters say they lack faith in the president to make the right decisions for the country”, and two thirds “say they are disillusioned with or angry about the way the federal government is working.” The poll showed that a staggering 58 per cent of Americans say they do not have confidence in the president’s decision-making, with just 42 per cent saying they do.

3. Obama fails to inspire
In contrast to the soaring rhetoric of his 2004 Convention speech in Boston which succeeded in impressing millions of television viewers at the time, America is no longer inspired by Barack Obama’s flat, monotonous and often dull presidential speeches and statements delivered via teleprompter. From his extraordinarily uninspiring Afghanistan speech at West Point to his flat State of the Union address, President Obama has failed to touch the heart of America. Even Jimmy Carter was more moving.

4. The United States is drowning in debt
The Congressional Budget Office Long-Term Budget Outlook offers a frightening picture of the scale of America’s national debt. Under its alternative fiscal scenario, the CBO projects that US debt could rise to 87 percent of GDP by 2020, 109 percent by 2025, and 185 percent in 2035. While much of Europe, led by Britain and Germany, are aggressively cutting their deficits, the Obama administration is actively growing America’s debt, and has no plan in place to avert a looming Greek-style financial crisis.

5. Obama’s Big Government message is falling flat
The relentless emphasis on bailouts and stimulus spending has done little to spur economic growth or create jobs, but has greatly advanced the power of the federal government in America. This is not an approach that is proving popular with the American public, and even most European governments have long ditched this tax and spend approach to saving their own economies.

6. Obama’s support for socialised health care is a huge political mistake
In an extraordinary act of political Harakiri, President Obama leant his full support to the hugely controversial, unpopular and divisive health care reform bill, with a monstrous price tag of $940 billion, whose repeal is now supported by 55 per cent of likely US voters. As I wrote at the time of its passing, the legislation is “a great leap forward by the United States towards a European-style vision of universal health care, which will only lead to soaring costs, higher taxes, and a surge in red tape for small businesses. This reckless legislation dramatically expands the power of the state over the lives of individuals, and could not be further from the vision of America’s founding fathers.”

7. Obama’s handling of the Gulf oil spill has been weak-kneed and indecisive
While much of the spilled oil in the Gulf has now been thankfully cleared up, the political damage for the White House will be long-lasting. Instead of showing real leadership on the matter by acing decisively and drawing upon offers of international support, the Obama administration settled on a more convenient strategy of relentlessly bashing an Anglo-American company while largely sitting on its hands. Significantly, a poll of Louisiana voters gave George W. Bush higher marks for his handling of the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, with 62 percent disapproving of Obama’s performance on the Gulf oil spill.

8. US foreign policy is an embarrassing mess under the Obama administration
It is hard to think of a single foreign policy success for the Obama administration, but there have been plenty of missteps which have weakened American global power as well as the standing of the United States. The surrender to Moscow on Third Site missile defence, the failure to aggressively stand up to Iran’s nuclear programme, the decision to side with ousted Marxists in Honduras, the slap in the face for Great Britain over the Falklands, have all contributed to the image of a US administration completely out of its depth in international affairs. The Obama administration’s high risk strategy of appeasing America’s enemies while kicking traditional US allies has only succeeded in weakening the United States while strengthening her adversaries.

9. President Obama is muddled and confused on national security
From the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq to the War on Terror, President Obama’s leadership has often been muddled and confused. On Afghanistan he rightly sent tens of thousands of additional troops to the battlefield. At the same time however he bizarrely announced a timetable for the withdrawal of US forces beginning in July 2011, handing the initiative to the Taliban. On Iraq he has announced an end to combat operations and the withdrawal of all but 50,000 troops despite a recent upsurge in terrorist violence and political instability, and without the Iraqi military and police ready to take over. In addition he has ditched the concept of a War on Terror, replacing it with an Overseas Contingency Operation, hardly the right message to send in the midst of a long-war against Al-Qaeda.

10. Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness
Barack Obama has made it clear that he doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism, and has made apologising for his country into an art form. In a speech to the United Nations last September he stated that “no one nation can or should try to dominate another nation. No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed. No balance of power among nations will hold.” It is difficult to see how a US president who holds these views and does not even accept America’s greatness in history can actually lead the world’s only superpower with force and conviction.

There is a distinctly Titanic-like feel to the Obama presidency and it’s not hard to see why. The most left-wing president in modern American history has tried to force a highly interventionist, government-driven agenda that runs counter to the principles of free enterprise, individual freedom, and limited government that have made the United States the greatest power in the world, and the freest nation on earth.
This, combined with weak leadership both at home and abroad against the backdrop of tremendous economic uncertainty in an increasingly dangerous world, has contributed to a spectacular political collapse for a president once thought to be invincible. America at its core remains a deeply conservative nation, which cherishes its traditions and founding principles. President Obama is increasingly out of step with the American people, by advancing policies that undermine the United States as a global power, while undercutting America’s deep-seated love for freedom.

thecoffeeguy
08-14-2010, 01:31 PM
In short, Obama is horrible. :thumb:

HonestChieffan
08-15-2010, 08:50 AM
Stunning how the leftists here run from such well written analysis.

Brainiac
08-15-2010, 09:01 AM
Stunning how the leftists here run from such well written analysis.
Don't worry. They'll be here soon trying to change the subject to Bush and Romney.

BucEyedPea
08-15-2010, 09:07 AM
Nile Gardiner, is a stupid neoconservative mouthpiece. Once I saw all the FP NC lines 8, 9 and 10, I decided Google to see if he was. Ayup! The real tip off was the "American Greatness" line.....used to justify wars of offense.

Buyers Beware of FP Progressives wearing Conservative clothing. They've infiltrated the Tea Party too. It's rhetoric...it's not real. No more real than Obama's campaign message of change and unity. They will NOT roll back govt, govt spending or power.....they will use Obama's failings to seize power. Just like the Democrats did.

Mizzou_8541
08-15-2010, 09:09 AM
Nile Gardiner, a stupid neoconservative mouthpiece. Once I saw all the FP lines 8, 9 and 10. So I just Googled to check if he was. Ayup! The real tip off was the "American Greatness" line.....used to justify wars of offense.

Buyers Beware of FP Progressives wearing Conservative clothing. They've infiltrated the Tea Party too. It's rhetoric...it's not real. No more real than Obama's campaign message of change and unity. They will NOT roll back govt, govt spending or power.....they will use Obama's failings to seize power. Just like the Democrats did.

That will be disappointing if true.

chiefsnorth
08-15-2010, 12:06 PM
Great analysis from start to finish.

It's telling that the British press, which is as left-leaning as the day is long, is giving Obama failing grades on all fronts. But the American press, which is loyal to him personally, continues their campaign of excuse-making, diversion and distraction.

petegz28
08-15-2010, 12:18 PM
The problem with Obama can be summed up into one word, "stubborness". He is like an infant child who must have his way no matter what. And when you confront him on the issues and results of his decisions he points the finger to someone else. He is flat out stubborn. HAD to have a HC reform bill regardless of what was in it. The guy doesn't listen, doesn't think and dare I say, really doesn't give a damn. We have seen time and time again from the Cambridge Police Officer to Sherrod that he opens his mouth first and thinks second. If the rest of the world is cutting their deficits and Obama wants to keep on spending then damn it, he is right and everyone else be damned. He cannot be wrong. It is old hat anymore.

NewChief
08-15-2010, 12:24 PM
This is going to make it all the more galling for conservatives when he wins reelection.

HonestChieffan
08-15-2010, 12:31 PM
Are conservatives the only ones who are suffering from his incompetence?

Messier
08-15-2010, 12:33 PM
This is just a column by a conservative member of the Heritage Foundation. It's not a gage of what the British think of Obama.

HonestChieffan
08-15-2010, 12:42 PM
This is just a column by a conservative member of the Heritage Foundation. It's not a gage of what the British think of Obama.

He also is on NPR, BBC, and published in Brit newspapers...that said, was the content misleading? And if so how? What in your opinion do the Brits feel about Obama? Is he a conservative BBC NPR reporter or is he a liberal who reports for the heritage foundation?

vailpass
08-15-2010, 12:51 PM
This is just a column by a conservative member of the Heritage Foundation. It's not a gage of what the British think of Obama.

Do you care to comment on the content of the article?

Brainiac
08-15-2010, 01:17 PM
This is going to make it all the more galling for conservatives when he wins reelection.

Keep telling yourself that.

NewChief
08-15-2010, 01:19 PM
Keep telling yourself that.

Oh, I'm not hoping for his reelection or anything. I'm no fan of the guy or his administration. I'm just dubious of the Republicans ability to get their shit together and put forward a candidate that will defeat him.

BWillie
08-15-2010, 01:19 PM
He's going to get re-elected easily, you do realize that? It's going to be really really sad, but dumb ass 21 and 22 year olds will still vote for him and really won't know why.

healthpellets
08-15-2010, 01:22 PM
He's going to get re-elected easily, you do realize that? It's going to be really really sad, but dumb ass 21 and 22 year olds will still vote for him and really won't know why.

hope 'n change, muthafucka.

healthpellets
08-15-2010, 01:24 PM
Oh, I'm not hoping for his reelection or anything. I'm no fan of the guy or his administration. I'm just dubious of the Republicans ability to get their shit together and put forward a candidate that will defeat him.

cause they'll put forward the same old crappy candidates that they always do. always. never fails. and they won't engage the voters. they'll just stand up there and tell you their right, and when they try to explain why they'll talk about economics and numbers instead of breaking it down for a five year old. because they are just smarter than you, and if you can't understand it, then eff you.

patteeu
08-15-2010, 01:24 PM
Nile Gardiner, is a stupid neoconservative mouthpiece. Once I saw all the FP NC lines 8, 9 and 10, I decided Google to see if he was. Ayup! The real tip off was the "American Greatness" line.....used to justify wars of offense.

Buyers Beware of FP Progressives wearing Conservative clothing. They've infiltrated the Tea Party too. It's rhetoric...it's not real. No more real than Obama's campaign message of change and unity. They will NOT roll back govt, govt spending or power.....they will use Obama's failings to seize power. Just like the Democrats did.

Obama's greatest sin, IMO, is #10, his lack of belief in American greatness. It's a stain on your own character that you agree with him.

patteeu
08-15-2010, 01:25 PM
This is just a column by a conservative member of the Heritage Foundation. It's not a gage of what the British think of Obama.

It's a gauge of what sensible people think about him though.

patteeu
08-15-2010, 01:28 PM
He's going to get re-elected easily, you do realize that? It's going to be really really sad, but dumb ass 21 and 22 year olds will still vote for him and really won't know why.

Not if unemployment remains rampant in that age group. Barack the Pied Piper worked his magic last time around when the economy still seemed pretty good to most young people (even if technically it was just going into recession).

HonestChieffan
08-15-2010, 01:29 PM
He's going to get re-elected easily, you do realize that? It's going to be really really sad, but dumb ass 21 and 22 year olds will still vote for him and really won't know why.


Once burned, twice shy.

DJ's left nut
08-15-2010, 01:42 PM
Once burned, twice shy.

Alas, the public is entirely too stupid.

He's going to get re-elected.

A) The Republican party still hasn't produced an electable option and will likely once again allow the religious right within the party chop down any viable national candidate.

B) The public is really really stupid. They'll continue to look past the substance of this presidency toward the shiny campaign adds that Obama has perfected.

C) He gets 95% of 12.4% of the population by default. When you start out with a 10% lead, it's hard to suck quite badly enough to lose.

BIG_DADDY
08-15-2010, 01:42 PM
He's going to get re-elected easily, you do realize that? It's going to be really really sad, but dumb ass 21 and 22 year olds will still vote for him and really won't know why.

If the election were to happen today you would be right but the economy may have something to say about that before we hit the polls. Unemployment is sky high right now, the numbers they are reporting are not even close to accurate and the states haven't even really started with the mass layoffs. Obama has done jack shit for the private sector, his answer is always the same, increase debt and grow the size of government. This plan has us on the fast track to economic collapse.

ChiefsCountry
08-15-2010, 01:54 PM
#10 is Obama's biggest one IMO.

HonestChieffan
08-15-2010, 02:35 PM
Alas, the public is entirely too stupid.

He's going to get re-elected.

A) The Republican party still hasn't produced an electable option and will likely once again allow the religious right within the party chop down any viable national candidate.

B) The public is really really stupid. They'll continue to look past the substance of this presidency toward the shiny campaign adds that Obama has perfected.

C) He gets 95% of 12.4% of the population by default. When you start out with a 10% lead, it's hard to suck quite badly enough to lose.


Not sure who will emerge as the Pres candidate. But I don't think anyone is really moving on that other than a few who are not going to be nominated. For my bet, Id say we have a lot of good people who can carry a message and will be electable.

Its easy to say the public is stupid. But the voters will turn out for people to replace the ones we see as really bad today. And with that the democrats will be hard pressed to mobilize like they did in the last election. Remember even against McCain Obama only won by a slim margin and he will never get the moderates and independents back. They are the best informed and most thoughtful in the voter block and Obama cannot sell his record to them like he sold his hope and change crap.

Can he mobilize all the rest? I doubt it. He will have a core but will they vote? I cant say. But he is no shoe in for reelection.

chiefsnorth
08-15-2010, 03:05 PM
Anyone looks like filet mignon compared to him. This is now much bigger than just a couple of issues. It's a wholesale rejection of him and everything he stands for.

vailpass
08-15-2010, 05:02 PM
Oh, I'm not hoping for his reelection or anything. I'm no fan of the guy or his administration. I'm just dubious of the Republicans ability to get their shit together and put forward a candidate that will defeat him.

Yep, my fear is exactly what you describe. How it can be possible I don't know but so far the GOP hasn't produced anything to get that colossal failure obama out of office.

Brainiac
08-15-2010, 07:04 PM
He's going to get re-elected easily, you do realize that? It's going to be really really sad, but dumb ass 21 and 22 year olds will still vote for him and really won't know why.
Perhaps this is just wishful thinking on my part, but I don't think the Democrats will get anywhere near the turnout they got in 2008. In 2008 it was easy to demonize Bush and to portray Obama as the guy who was going to make everything all better. That won't be the case in 2012.

I also think it's very possible that the 2012 Republican nominee will be somebody that nobody is even talking about right now as a front runner.

ChiefsCountry
08-15-2010, 07:06 PM
Obama will get reelected bc Congress will be controlled by the Republicans, which will get the economy turned around, and he will take credit for it.

ROYC75
08-15-2010, 07:16 PM
Obama will get reelected bc Congress will be controlled by the Republicans, which will get the economy turned around, and he will take credit for it.

This and 95% of the 18 to 25 white & black voters in America.

MadMax
08-16-2010, 12:30 AM
Once burned, twice shy.

Lotsa babies shoulda been aborted :(

Aries Walker
08-16-2010, 01:24 AM
Coupla things.

1. Nile Gardiner's first point: "Ancient regime". He must be comparing Obama to Ancient Regime as seen through the eyes of the second act of History of the World, Part One, because in reality pre-revolution France was a lot less broken than most think. It worked, right up until a few months before the storming of the bastille. That placed wrapped it up pretty quickly. Anyway, historical nitpicking. I apologize; I can't help it. Moving on . . .

2. Paradigm-breaking ethnicity and background galvanizing similar supporters + thunderous inauguration ceremonies and the colossal expectations they generate + economy falling into shit just as the Bushes hand over the keys + Obama now inheriting that mess, Hoover-style, plus two overseas wars and a bunch of domestic nastiness + a natural disaster brought on by the carelessness of one big company who didn't police themselves enough + expectations still into superhuman = any President would have low poll ratings by now.

Now, I like Obama, and here's a good reason why. He was speaking about the proposed Islamic community center near the WTC: "This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country, and will not be treated differently by their government, is essential to who we are." I like it not only because I agree with it, but because he said it, out loud, to whomever would listen. I admire that in a President.

So, he's not declining to me, but I never get polled. (I'm not a big fan of polls anyway, having read Zogby).

And besides, he's still not Bush.

Velvet_Jones
08-16-2010, 08:43 AM
Nile Gardiner, is a stupid neoconservative mouthpiece.

Everyone you disagree with is a neo-something. With all due respect I think you are a neo-twat. WTF?

Cave Johnson
08-16-2010, 10:26 AM
Obama will get reelected bc Congress will be controlled by the Republicans, which will get the economy turned around, and he will take credit for it.

Yeah, because the R Congress created jobs like gangbusters from 2001-2006. ;)

healthpellets
08-16-2010, 10:31 AM
Yeah, because the R Congress created jobs like gangbusters from 2001-2006. ;)

nah, they were much too busy taking away our civil liberties to worry about jobs. but THIS time around...

BucEyedPea
08-16-2010, 10:36 AM
Everyone you disagree with is a neo-something. With all due respect I think you are a neo-twat. WTF?

Thanks for showing how you've lost the argument. ROFL

InChiefsHell
08-16-2010, 10:53 AM
Yep, my fear is exactly what you describe. How it can be possible I don't know but so far the GOP hasn't produced anything to get that colossal failure obama out of office.

Perhaps one will emerge after the mid-terms. If the Republicans have a big win (not even taking back the house big, but I mean big in terms of turnaround) then perhaps one will emerge to ride that wave...

...how come the evil Republicans don't have a Manchrian Candidate like the Dems did in Barack?

vailpass
08-16-2010, 10:59 AM
Coupla things.

1. Nile Gardiner's first point: "Ancient regime". He must be comparing Obama to Ancient Regime as seen through the eyes of the second act of History of the World, Part One, because in reality pre-revolution France was a lot less broken than most think. It worked, right up until a few months before the storming of the bastille. That placed wrapped it up pretty quickly. Anyway, historical nitpicking. I apologize; I can't help it. Moving on . . .

2. Paradigm-breaking ethnicity and background galvanizing similar supporters + thunderous inauguration ceremonies and the colossal expectations they generate + economy falling into shit just as the Bushes hand over the keys + Obama now inheriting that mess, Hoover-style, plus two overseas wars and a bunch of domestic nastiness + a natural disaster brought on by the carelessness of one big company who didn't police themselves enough + expectations still into superhuman = any President would have low poll ratings by now.

Now, I like Obama, and here's a good reason why. He was speaking about the proposed Islamic community center near the WTC: "This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country, and will not be treated differently by their government, is essential to who we are." I like it not only because I agree with it, but because he said it, out loud, to whomever would listen. I admire that in a President.

So, he's not declining to me, but I never get polled. (I'm not a big fan of polls anyway, having read Zogby).

And besides, he's still not Bush.


:LOL:

patteeu
08-16-2010, 11:00 AM
2. Paradigm-breaking ethnicity and background galvanizing similar supporters + thunderous inauguration ceremonies and the colossal expectations they generate + economy falling into shit just as the Bushes hand over the keys + Obama now inheriting that mess, Hoover-style, plus two overseas wars and a bunch of domestic nastiness + a natural disaster brought on by the carelessness of one big company who didn't police themselves enough + expectations still into superhuman + incompetence on a cosmic scale + a heavy dosage of traditional democrat fiscal and economic insanity = any President would have low poll ratings by now.

FYP

Now, I like Obama, and here's a good reason why. He was speaking about the proposed Islamic community center near the WTC: "This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country, and will not be treated differently by their government, is essential to who we are." I like it not only because I agree with it, but because he said it, out loud, to whomever would listen. I admire that in a President.

So, he's not declining to me, but I never get polled. (I'm not a big fan of polls anyway, having read Zogby).

Ah, I see. You liked that version of Obama better than this one:

"I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there. I was commenting very specifically on the right people have that dates back to our founding."

With that caveat, which essentially means he's sidestepping the issue, it really makes the comment you quote pretty unimpressive. What a weak-spined waffler we have for a president. :shake:

Velvet_Jones
08-16-2010, 11:37 AM
Thanks for showing how you've lost the argument. ROFL

Not sure if noticed but I was not arguing. Drama is not something that I react to unless it is kotter.

BigChiefFan
08-16-2010, 11:40 AM
I would think Republicans would love Obama, since he's continued Bush's policies, up to this point.

bkkcoh
08-16-2010, 01:02 PM
I would think Republicans would love Obama, since he's continued Bush's policies, up to this point.

But there were a lot of republicans that didn't like what bush did/was doing the last 4 - 6 years of his term.

InChiefsHell
08-16-2010, 01:30 PM
I would think Republicans would love Obama, since he's continued Bush's policies, up to this point.

:rolleyes:

This is such a dumb ass statement. The reason Bush's approval ratings were IN THE SHITTER is because NOBODY liked his policies, including Republicans. So...if Barry CONTINUES the Bush policies, why oh why the hell would Republicans like him? :spock:

patteeu
08-16-2010, 01:37 PM
:rolleyes:

This is such a dumb ass statement. The reason Bush's approval ratings were IN THE SHITTER is because NOBODY liked his policies, including Republicans. So...if Barry CONTINUES the Bush policies, why oh why the hell would Republicans like him? :spock:

That's one of BCF's core competencies.

BucEyedPea
08-16-2010, 03:27 PM
Not sure if noticed but I was not arguing. Drama is not something that I react to unless it is kotter.

Point still applies. You got nuthin'!

BucEyedPea
08-16-2010, 03:27 PM
I would think Republicans would love Obama, since he's continued Bush's policies, up to this point.

Excellent point! :thumb:

BucEyedPea
08-16-2010, 03:28 PM
That's one of BCF's core competencies.

You got nuthin' too!

InChiefsHell
08-18-2010, 06:41 AM
Excellent point! :thumb:

You are smarter than that...or so I thought anyway.