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Tribal Warfare
08-17-2010, 10:15 PM
Chiefs’ day in camp on Tuesday (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/17/2157560/chiefs-day-in-camp-on-tuesday.html)

Another QB in the mix

The Chiefs needed another arm for practice because of Brodie Croyle’s injury, so they summoned Bill Stull, who joined them for Tuesday’s workout. Stull participated in the Chiefs’ rookie camp in the spring on a tryout basis.

The Chiefs went through Monday’s practice with only Matt Cassel and Tyler Palko at quarterback. Coach Todd Haley said the Chiefs couldn’t afford to go with two any longer.

But it also speaks to the issue of how long Croyle will be out of action. He was wearing a sleeve on his passing arm, but otherwise the injury doesn’t have the look of one that will cause long-term problems.

“I wouldn’t read too much into that one way or the other just because any practice we go through with two quarterbacks I think has a chance to end with diminishing returns,” Haley said. “Whether this is a monthlong, one-week, two-day, one-day, we had to get an arm in here. Part of that is finding someone that knows how we do things and a little bit about the terminology.

“He was the logical choice for us.”

Another logical choice was Matt Gutierrez, who played for the Chiefs last season and was released in June. Haley wouldn’t speak to the reason the Chiefs opted for Stull instead of Gutierrez.

The Chiefs released defensive lineman Jeffrey Fitzgerald, who played at Kansas State, to clear roster space for Stull.

Offensive-line shuffle

The Chiefs were whole again along their starting offensive line with the return to practice of guard Ryan Lilja and tackle Ryan O’Callaghan. They were scrambling a day earlier with Lilja sitting out and O’Callaghan missing a portion of practice after a teammate accidentally fell on his leg.

They had Casey Wiegmann at center, Rudy Niswanger at right guard and developmental player Colin Brown at right tackle.

Niswanger had strictly been a center for the Chiefs and had taken many of the first-team snaps in camp. But the Chiefs are giving those snaps this week to Wiegmann, so they wanted to see what kind of versatility Niswanger has.

The Chiefs prefer that backup offensive linemen be able to play more than one position so they don’t have to use a lot of roster spots on linemen.

“This is that time of year where guys start to feel not so good,” Haley said. “Sometimes you have to do some things that you may not have thought were options.”

What you need to know about …

THE OFFENSE
Bill Stull’s first pass in the full team drills was way off target, but he came right back on the next play to complete a throw to Verran Tucker. … Tackle Ryan O’Callaghan continued to struggle in pass protection. He was beaten by linebacker Andy Studebaker in a one-on-one pass rush/protection drill.

THE DEFENSE
Linebacker Tamba Hali and tackle Branden Albert had some nice battles in the one-on-one drills. Albert did a good job with Hali on the first snap, but Hali beat him with speed moves on the next two plays. … Frustrated by his inability to beat Colin Brown with the pass rush, defensive end Alex Magee smacked Brown hard in the head. … Cornerback Jackie Bates intercepted a pass and returned it for a touchdown in a seven-on-seven passing drill.

INJURY REPORT
Quarterback Brodie Croyle, running back Kestahn Moore and offensive lineman Darryl Harris did not practice. Safety Jarrad Page is unsigned and not in camp.

DAILY BATTLE
Until Tuesday, Bobby Greenwood was a backup defensive lineman. On Tuesday, he was a backup offensive lineman. With injuries leaving the Chiefs a little short on the offensive line, Greenwood traded his red defensive practice jersey for a white offensive jersey.

Greenwood said he had no extensive experience playing on offense but at least in one drill looked as if he knew what he was doing. He held off Magee twice in a row in a one-on-one pass rush/protection drill.

Greenwood still faces long odds to make the regular-season roster, but his newfound versatility can’t hurt.

TODAY’S SCHEDULE
The Chiefs will practice at 8:50 a.m. and 7:15 p.m. A $10 fee will be charged to fans attending the night practice.

KCrockaholic
08-17-2010, 10:34 PM
I hate it when players "accidentally" fall on other guys legs after a bad game...

And WTF is Greenwood doing playing RT?

TrickyNicky
08-17-2010, 11:39 PM
I hate it when players "accidentally" fall on other guys legs after a bad game...

And WTF is Greenwood doing playing RT?

The sad part is he was apparently handling Magee with no practice.

KCrockaholic
08-17-2010, 11:41 PM
The sad part is he was apparently handling Magee with no practice.

Yeah, either we found the next Kyle Turley or Magee is even worse than any of us could imagine.

Tribal Warfare
08-17-2010, 11:57 PM
Yeah, either we found the next Kyle Turley or Magee is even worse than any of us could imagine.

or to the extreme ideal pipedream Dave Szott who plays RT instead OG

mcaj22
08-17-2010, 11:59 PM
Are you kidding me Magee? You are getting beat by some nobody that never played offense before and just came in as a body? And he ****ing stuffed you? Is this a joke?

That whole draft is going to be a complete waste in a couple years, if not already.

HotRoute
08-18-2010, 12:00 AM
"Niswanger had strictly been a center for the Chiefs and had taken many of the first-team snaps in camp. But the Chiefs are giving those snaps this week to Wiegmann, so they wanted to see what kind of versatility Niswanger has."

Wow this says a lot

HotRoute
08-18-2010, 12:01 AM
"The Chiefs prefer that backup offensive linemen be able to play more than one position so they don’t have to use a lot of roster spots on linemen."

so we should consider niswanger a backup, im pretty sure the rest of the league has been for years

DaneMcCloud
08-18-2010, 12:23 AM
Yeah, either we found the next Kyle Turley or Magee is even worse than any of us could imagine.

Go back to draft day 2009.

Magee is actually better than I imagined.

The Bad Guy
08-18-2010, 12:25 AM
I'm hoping there are some cuts to get someone other than O'Shitbag here. The guy is a stiff and just shit.

booger
08-18-2010, 12:51 AM
I'm hoping there are some cuts to get someone other than O'Shitbag here. The guy is a stiff and just shit.

yep. Apparently Baltimore is looking to trade for a CB. I was looking at their OL and Tony Moll looked pretty good. But with Gaither hurt he's probably their 3rd T instead of 4th. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Players/Active/David_Hale.aspx this guy is a backup C/G but has played RT there too.

Just armchair GMing it. But Ozzie probably isn't interested in Leggett or travis Daniels.:)

boogblaster
08-18-2010, 08:54 AM
damit bob

Detoxing
08-18-2010, 09:09 AM
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Greenwood said he had no extensive experience playing on offense but at least in one drill looked as if he knew what he was doing. [B]He held off Magee twice in a row in a one-on-one pass rush/protection drill.


Are you kidding me? JFC

:facepalm:

the Talking Can
08-18-2010, 09:15 AM
so basically anyone with two legs can beat Great Draft Pick Magee...

MGRS13
08-18-2010, 09:31 AM
so basically anyone with two legs can beat Great Draft Pick Magee...

Here is some salt in that wound. Magee looked 50 times better then Tjack in his limited play last year.

Chief Chief
08-18-2010, 09:40 AM
TODAY’S SCHEDULE[/B]
The Chiefs will practice at 8:50 a.m. and 7:15 p.m. A $10 fee will be charged to fans attending the night practice.

Make your check payable to Bill Stull.

DeezNutz
08-18-2010, 09:43 AM
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[B]DAILY BATTLE
Until Tuesday, Bobby Greenwood was a backup defensive lineman. On Tuesday, he was a backup offensive lineman. With injuries leaving the Chiefs a little short on the offensive line, Greenwood traded his red defensive practice jersey for a white offensive jersey.

Greenwood said he had no extensive experience playing on offense but at least in one drill looked as if he knew what he was doing. He held off Magee twice in a row in a one-on-one pass rush/protection drill.

Greenwood still faces long odds to make the regular-season roster, but his newfound versatility can’t hurt.
[B]


Oh, and according to 810, Greenwood handled Tyson Jackson without problem.

And Jackson was, supposedly, tossed like a rag-doll by Asasmahoaooa

the Talking Can
08-18-2010, 09:45 AM
Here is some salt in that wound. Magee looked 50 times better then Tjack in his limited play last year.

thanks


really

KCrockaholic
08-18-2010, 09:48 AM
Oh, and according to 810, Greenwood handled Tyson Jackson without problem.

And Jackson was, supposedly, tossed like a rag-doll by Asasmahoaooa

Lets see if he can handle Tamba Hali. If so, maybe we're on to something.

DeezNutz
08-18-2010, 09:49 AM
Lets see if he can handle Tamba Hali. If so, maybe we're on to something.

On to what? The realization that Hali sucks, too?

It's not a good sign when Player X moves to a position he's never (or rarely, at the very least) played before and schools the #3 overall pick and our third-rounder.

FAX
08-18-2010, 09:51 AM
Let's look on the bright side ... maybe we've found our RT.

I wonder if he can throw a football more than 10 yards ... ?

FAX

KCrockaholic
08-18-2010, 09:54 AM
On to what? The realization that Hali sucks, too?



He does?

MahiMike
08-18-2010, 09:59 AM
Make your check payable to Bill Stull.

ROFL

ChiTown
08-18-2010, 10:00 AM
okesey dokesey

Let's just go ahead and stop drafting DL. It's on to Free Agency for this group of scouting genius's.

KCrockaholic
08-18-2010, 10:03 AM
okesey dokesey

Let's just go ahead and stop drafting DL. It's on to Free Agency for this group of scouting genius's.

That probably explains why we didn't draft DL this year. Good thinkin

ChiTown
08-18-2010, 10:05 AM
That probably explains why we didn't draft DL this year. Good thinkin

Given their prowess, the odd's were stacked against them.........

Mr. Laz
08-18-2010, 10:40 AM
On to what? The realization that Hali sucks, too?

It's not a good sign when Player X moves to a position he's never (or rarely, at the very least) played before and schools the #3 overall pick and our third-rounder.oh come on ... Hali doesn't suck. He proved that last year. He might not be the best but he's serviceable.

If this new guy can pwn Hali then maybe he does have natural ability.

DeezNutz
08-18-2010, 10:43 AM
oh come on ... Hali doesn't suck. He proved that last year. He might not be the best but he's serviceable.


I agree that Hali isn't the biggest worry on this defense. We could upgrade, for sure, but he's a viable component for now.

mikey23545
08-18-2010, 11:03 AM
so basically anyone with two legs can beat Great Draft Pick Magee...

Well, to be fair, they haven't put him up against any one-legged guys yet...

rambleonthruthefog
08-18-2010, 11:07 AM
tamba is fine. if the other players on our front 7 were as good as tamba, tamba himself would probably look like a world beater.

DeezNutz
08-18-2010, 11:09 AM
tamba is fine. if the other players on our front 7 were as good as tamba, tamba himself would probably look like a world beater.

Imagine how dynamic Hali would look if he played opposite a player like Jared Allen...

Fish
08-18-2010, 11:15 AM
Imagine how dynamic Hali would look if he played opposite a player like Jared Allen...

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6508/eatinice.gif

Swanman
08-18-2010, 11:25 AM
THE OFFENSE
Bill Stull’s first pass in the full team drills was way off target, but he came right back on the next play to complete a throw to Verran Tucker. … Tackle Ryan O’Callaghan continued to struggle in pass protection. He was beaten by linebacker Andy Studebaker in a one-on-one pass rush/protection drill.

That says a lot right there. Getting beaten by the mighty Andy Studebaker. Uh oh.

Contrarian
08-18-2010, 11:26 AM
I suspect with the evaluation from coordinators around cuts that we see a lot of new faces up until mid season on both the DL and OL.

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-18-2010, 11:29 AM
On to what? The realization that Hali sucks, too?

It's not a good sign when Player X moves to a position he's never (or rarely, at the very least) played before and schools the #3 overall pick and our third-rounder.

:spock: Oh please

DeezNutz
08-18-2010, 11:35 AM
:spock: Oh please

Please what? It's a positive that Greenwood dominated Jackson and Magee?

the Talking Can
08-18-2010, 11:36 AM
I suspect with the evaluation from coordinators around cuts that we see a lot of new faces up until mid season on both the DL and OL.

which is good news, having no talent on either line mid-way through the regime's second year....

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-18-2010, 11:37 AM
Please what? It's a positive that Greenwood dominated Jackson and Magee?

No, should have bolded the Hali part. He did grade out as one of the better pass rushers in the league last year...run D not so much.

DeezNutz
08-18-2010, 11:46 AM
No, should have bolded the Hali part. He did grade out as one of the better pass rushers in the league last year...run D not so much.

He's ok. I'd be higher on Hali if he didn't consistently fail to finish plays. And, yes, I'm aware of how weak our front three have been.