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Tribal Warfare
08-22-2010, 01:37 AM
Horne makes the most of his chance (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/21/2165950/horne-makes-the-most-of-his-chance.html)
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

TAMPA, Fla. | The Chiefs put Jeremy Horne in the game in the first quarter, and the rookie free agent wide receiver didn’t disappoint in Saturday night’s preseason game against the Buccaneers.

Horne made his first NFL catch a big one when he grabbed a 6-yard touchdown pass from Matt Cassel with 6 minutes, 47 seconds left in the quarter. The play provided the Chiefs their only touchdown of the half and a 7-3 lead. Tampa Bay went on to win 20-15.

Horne had been open in the end zone on an earlier play, but Cassel went elsewhere with the ball.

“When he first came in, it was a shock to most of us,” Cassel said. “But at the same time, he wouldn’t be in there if he wasn’t ready to go and the coaches didn’t feel like he was ready to go. He went in there, he did a great job and he made a play when we needed it.”

Horne began to work his way out of the rookie free agent mold with some big catches at training camp. Then, in last week’s game in Atlanta, Horne twice ran past defenders to get open deep but the quarterback couldn’t get him the ball either time.

The Chiefs were intrigued enough with Horne and his speed to give him more plays against Tampa Bay. Taking snaps that otherwise would have gone to a veteran like Dwayne Bowe, Chris Chambers or Jerheme Urban, Horne entered the game with the Chiefs inside the Tampa Bay 25.

The touchdown came on third down. Horne didn’t play again until the second half, but the Chiefs are encouraged by the progress of Horne, who played in college at Massachusetts.

“This guy’s a young player that has a certain skill set that is unique at times,” coach Todd Haley said. “That’s what it is right now. He can run fast, do some of those things. We really don’t know what we have there.

“He got thrown into the game. We had a series where he was going in and it turned into a longer series, and all of a sudden he was in there. …

“He’s a hard worker doing the things necessary to try to make a place for himself with the Chiefs. I’m encouraged with the way he’s working. He got the chance to make a play and he did it.”

Horne’s chances of making the regular season roster are better than they were when training camp started, but the Chiefs still appear set at wide receiver with Bowe, Chambers, Urban, Dexter McCluster and Terrance Copper — the latter being a skilled special-teams player.

michaelj_58
08-22-2010, 08:24 AM
good, i hope the kid works out.i like it when they find talent from nowhere.

milkman
08-22-2010, 08:27 AM
I understand the importance of special teams, but if Copper makes this roster ahead f Horne, who might be the best option to stretch the field as a deep threat in the offense, then our evaluation process is fucked.

Tuckdaddy
08-22-2010, 08:32 AM
I understand the importance of special teams, but if Copper makes this roster ahead f Horne, who might be the best option to stretch the field as a deep threat in the offense, then our evaluation process is ****ed.

No shit. Cooper over Horne? Uhhhh No

threebag02
08-22-2010, 08:37 AM
I understand the importance of special teams, but if Copper makes this roster ahead f Horne, who might be the best option to stretch the field as a deep threat in the offense, then our evaluation process is ****ed.


How Fast do you have to run 11 yards?

milkman
08-22-2010, 08:53 AM
How Fast do you have to run 11 yards?

Faster than the guy covering you.

Seriously, even knowing that Cassel can't hit the deep ball, you still gotta try, and maybe Horne will get so open that he'll have time to wait for it.

But you have to establish that you will at least try.

Red Brooklyn
08-22-2010, 10:08 AM
I like Horne. I'll be shocked if he doesn't make the roster.

Cave Johnson
08-22-2010, 10:27 AM
1) Given the utter chaos at WR last year, this has to help the mediocre one's (i.e., Cassel) performance.

2) Horne's best chance of making the roster is if we keep 6 WRs. Copper is a valuable ST asset, and I tend to doubt we'd go with 2 rooks behind the starters.

Mr. Laz
08-22-2010, 10:33 AM
dang ... the article is painful to read



the sentence structure is just awful.

Cave Johnson
08-22-2010, 10:34 AM
I understand the importance of special teams, but if Copper makes this roster ahead f Horne, who might be the best option to stretch the field as a deep threat in the offense, then our evaluation process is ****ed.

See pick 2b. This organization values ST (as they should, especially with a bendy D).

milkman
08-22-2010, 10:36 AM
See pick 2b. This organization values ST (as they should, especially with a bendy D).

As I said, I do understand the value of STs as well.

But I just don't believe that Copper's value to special teams is equal to what Horne can bring to the offense.

Red Brooklyn
08-22-2010, 10:37 AM
As I said, I do understand the value of STs as well.

But I just don't believe that Copper's value to special teams is equal to what Horne can bring to the offense.

Guys, milkman's right.

Coach
08-22-2010, 10:41 AM
As I said, I do understand the value of STs as well.

But I just don't believe that Copper's value to special teams is equal to what Horne can bring to the offense.

Or Urban for that matter. I haven't seen much of him that he should be on their roster as well.
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OnTheWarpath58
08-22-2010, 10:44 AM
Or Urban for that matter. I haven't seen much of him that he should be on their roster as well.
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Good call.

Mr. Laz
08-22-2010, 10:47 AM
<table style="width: 509px; height: 300px;"><tbody><tr class="loop-even"><td class="col-jersey" rel="82">82 </td> <td class="col-name"> Bowe, Dwayne (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Dwayne-Bowe/11318bac-887e-4aa5-9fe7-bd33ee321708) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-2</td> <td class="col-weight">221</td><td class="col-bd">25</td><td class="col-exp" rel="04"> 4 </td> <td class="col-college">LSU</td> </tr><tr class="loop-odd"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="84"> 84 </td> <td class="col-name"> Chambers, Chris (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Chris-Chambers/cb1e9a31-3a42-4012-ac58-95f0ff771cac) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">5-11</td> <td class="col-weight">210</td><td class="col-bd">32</td><td class="col-exp" rel="10"> 10 </td> <td class="col-college">Wisconsin</td> </tr><tr class="loop-even"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="10"> 10 </td> <td class="col-name"> Copper, Terrance (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Terrance-Copper/a2e41f57-62e8-4f7b-8cc8-19dffee2f025) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-0</td> <td class="col-weight">207</td><td class="col-bd">28</td><td class="col-exp" rel="07"> 7 </td> <td class="col-college">East Carolina</td> </tr><tr class="loop-odd"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="13"> 13 </td> <td class="col-name"> Gunnell, Rich (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Rich-Gunnell/66ff06e7-a817-4fea-92f9-51d1effc2aec) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">5-11</td> <td class="col-weight">197</td><td class="col-bd">23</td><td class="col-exp" rel="00"> R </td> <td class="col-college">Boston College</td> </tr><tr class="loop-even"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="08"> 8 </td> <td class="col-name"> Horne, Jeremy (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Jeremy-Horne/89a2c9fd-c2e5-4826-aea8-d327b0c80f5a) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-2</td> <td class="col-weight">193</td><td class="col-bd">23</td><td class="col-exp" rel="00"> R </td> <td class="col-college">Massachusetts</td> </tr><tr class="loop-odd"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="14"> 14 </td> <td class="col-name"> Lawrence, Quinten (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Quinten-Lawrence/405f8af8-e172-4b72-8622-723c5b8b79d7) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-0</td> <td class="col-weight">184</td><td class="col-bd">25</td><td class="col-exp" rel="02"> 2 </td> <td class="col-college">McNeese State</td> </tr><tr class="loop-even"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="17"> 17 </td> <td class="col-name"> Long, Lance (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Lance-Long/8265b98b-a290-4fe3-89a1-b67a69ded73e) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">5-11</td> <td class="col-weight">186</td><td class="col-bd">25</td><td class="col-exp" rel="02"> 2 </td> <td class="col-college">Mississippi State</td> </tr><tr class="loop-odd"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="22"> 22 </td> <td class="col-name"> McCluster, Dexter (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Dexter-McCluster/7c2b89a1-3f6f-4dd4-9ee7-7978f33af93d) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">5-8</td> <td class="col-weight">170</td><td class="col-bd">21</td><td class="col-exp" rel="00"> R </td> <td class="col-college">Mississippi</td> </tr><tr class="loop-even"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="15"> 15 </td> <td class="col-name"> Tucker, Verran (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Verran-Tucker/e1b8e9f6-7d9f-441c-a132-19dd1693f619) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-1</td> <td class="col-weight">204</td><td class="col-bd">22</td><td class="col-exp" rel="00"> R </td> <td class="col-college">California</td> </tr><tr class="loop-odd"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="83"> 83 </td> <td class="col-name"> Urban, Jerheme (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Jerheme-Urban/2644156c-696b-4f05-8df3-d5a4ef53d0ad) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-3</td> <td class="col-weight">207</td><td class="col-bd">29</td><td class="col-exp" rel="06"> 6 </td> <td class="col-college">Trinity (TX)</td></tr></tbody></table>
Bowe,Chambers,Horne,McCluster,Urban?

might be able to keep copper too since DMC in consider multi-purpose and copper is ST

Coach
08-22-2010, 11:13 AM
If KC is keeping 6, it would be Bowe, Chambers, McCluster, Horne, Urban, and Copper.

If KC is keeping 5, it should be Bowe, Chambers, McCluster, Horne, and either Urban or Copper being chopped off.

Detoxing
08-23-2010, 11:12 AM
You know, they could keep McCluster as a RB. Just sayin'.

Nero's Neptune
08-23-2010, 12:32 PM
Yeah... I think there's a chance they go with 6 since McCluster is kind of a hybrid receiver/running back. That, and Horne is getting enough attention now that if they try to sneak him on the practice squad somebody really short on receivers might well just pick him up.... and that would really suck to lose a developmental guy that way.

Can't Horne play special teams? I don't get why some receivers are so much better than others on punt and kickoff coverage. Stick to your lane and know how to tackle/block a little bit, right?

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-23-2010, 01:04 PM
good, i hope the kid works out.i like it when they find talent from nowhere.

Yeah, it's cool when that happens.

John_Wayne
08-23-2010, 04:04 PM
Bowe, Chambers, McCluster, Horne, Urban

CoMoChief
08-23-2010, 05:09 PM
I still think it's criminal we didn't trade a 5th rd to PIT for Santonio Holmes. Esp since we had 3 5th rd picks.

And I could give a **** about his suspension. We'd still get 12 games w/ him this season. (I'm assuming his game suspension is 4 games - I dont feel like checking)

OnTheWarpath58
08-23-2010, 05:11 PM
I still think it's criminal we didn't trade a 5th rd to PIT for Santonio Holmes.

And I could give a fuck about his suspension. We'd still get 12 games w/ him this season. (I'm assuming his game suspension is 4 games - I dont feel like checking)

Sadly, I couldn't agree more.

Time to get used to passing on talented players that have baggage.

Detoxing
08-23-2010, 05:14 PM
I doubt Horne makes the team.

He caught a 6 yard TD pass. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo. He doesn't look like an NFL WR at all.

Practice Squad. You'll see.

Chiefs Pantalones
08-23-2010, 05:16 PM
I doubt Horne makes the team.

He caught a 6 yard TD pass. Whoop-dee-****ing-doo. He doesn't look like an NFL WR at all.

Practice Squad. You'll see.

He kind of looks like a faster Anquan Boldin, actually.

-King-
08-23-2010, 05:18 PM
I doubt Horne makes the team.

He caught a 6 yard TD pass. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo. He doesn't look like an NFL WR at all.

Practice Squad. You'll see.

He's top 3 fastest on the team. That's pretty important. And seeing as how he had a few plays with the 1st team, I would think that the coaches are thinking about keeping him.

OnTheWarpath58
08-23-2010, 05:18 PM
I doubt Horne makes the team.

He caught a 6 yard TD pass. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo. He doesn't look like an NFL WR at all.

Practice Squad. You'll see.

Yeah, I don't see Pioli/Haley keeping him over Urban, and I don't see them cutting Copper, even though this team needs talent right now more than specialists.

Brock
08-23-2010, 05:22 PM
He kind of looks like a faster Anquan Boldin, actually.

ROFL

Chiefs Pantalones
08-23-2010, 05:23 PM
ROFL

You're cute.

SNR
08-23-2010, 05:27 PM
I would rather cut Urban over Copper or Horne. It's not just because I'm biased (I'm not, this Copper avatar is a leftover joke from like... two seasons ago). Copper adds value, and Horne has speed and potential. Urban just doesn't bring anything to the table for this team the way the other two receivers could.

Detoxing
08-23-2010, 05:27 PM
He kind of looks like a faster Anquan Boldin, actually.

No way. Not even close. Completely different. I wish.

He's top 3 fastest on the team. That's pretty important. And seeing as how he had a few plays with the 1st team, I would think that the coaches are thinking about keeping him.

I'm sure they're thinking about it, but i doubt they do it. I'm 99% positive he'll be PS. He won't make it over Urban. And Urban is the better player RIGHT NOW, IMO. And Copper makes it for Special Teams. If Horne makes the team, he has to prove that he can be a better gunner than Copper.


Yeah, I don't see Pioli/Haley keeping him over Urban, and I don't see them cutting Copper, even though this team needs talent right now more than specialists.

This.

OnTheWarpath58
08-23-2010, 05:28 PM
I would rather cut Urban over Copper or Horne. It's not just because I'm biased (I'm not, this Copper avatar is a leftover joke from like... two seasons ago). Copper adds value, and Horne has speed and potential. Urban just doesn't bring anything to the table for this team the way the other two receivers could.

I agree about Urban, but I don't see Haley cutting him.

I hope I'm wrong.

Detoxing
08-23-2010, 05:30 PM
I would rather cut Urban over Copper or Horne. It's not just because I'm biased (I'm not, this Copper avatar is a leftover joke from like... two seasons ago). Copper adds value, and Horne has speed and potential. Urban just doesn't bring anything to the table for this team the way the other two receivers could.

I just don't see Horne as an NFL WR yet. I think Waaaaay too much is being made of him right now.

Even on that over throw last week vs Atlanta, he still should've made that catch. He was very upright and didn't extend his arms quite enough. IMO, he could've stretched out a bit more than he did to make that play.

Detoxing
08-23-2010, 05:30 PM
I agree about Urban, but I don't see Haley cutting him.

I hope I'm wrong.

I don't either. Urban makes the team at #4, no doubt.

OnTheWarpath58
08-23-2010, 05:31 PM
I just don't see Horne as an NFL WR yet. I think Waaaaay too much is being made of him right now.

Even on that over throw last week vs Atlanta, he still should've made that catch. He was very upright and didn't extend his arms quite enough. IMO, he could've stretched out a bit more than he did to make that play.

Fans have Sippio-itis.

CoMoChief
08-23-2010, 05:32 PM
He kind of looks like a faster Anquan Boldin, actually.

:spock:

Chiefs Pantalones
08-23-2010, 05:35 PM
Dear Lord people I was kidding.

-King-
08-23-2010, 05:40 PM
Dear Lord people I was kidding.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. ROFL

Chiefs Pantalones
08-23-2010, 05:41 PM
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. ROFL

He's more of a slower Randy Moss.

Deberg_1990
08-23-2010, 05:44 PM
I see Horne as kind of a darker version of Lance Long.

Blick
08-23-2010, 06:49 PM
He looked good in college. It's no surprise for me to see him doing well so far.

He reminds me of another undrafted free agent from a small school...Rod Smith.

the Talking Can
08-23-2010, 07:05 PM
I thought he was a blinder version of Mark Boerigter (sp?)

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-23-2010, 08:20 PM
Joe Horn 2.0

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-23-2010, 08:25 PM
I see Horne as kind of a darker version of Lance Long.

LMAO

xztop12
08-24-2010, 11:47 AM
What the hell happened to Quentin Lawerence

CHENZ A!
08-24-2010, 11:50 AM
What the hell happened to Quentin Lawerence

He isn't very good at football.
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Rausch
08-24-2010, 12:02 PM
<table style="width: 509px; height: 300px;"><tbody><tr class="loop-even"><td class="col-jersey" rel="82">82 </td> <td class="col-name"> Bowe, Dwayne (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Dwayne-Bowe/11318bac-887e-4aa5-9fe7-bd33ee321708) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-2</td> <td class="col-weight">221</td><td class="col-bd">25</td><td class="col-exp" rel="04"> 4 </td> <td class="col-college">LSU</td> </tr><tr class="loop-odd"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="84"> 84 </td> <td class="col-name"> Chambers, Chris (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Chris-Chambers/cb1e9a31-3a42-4012-ac58-95f0ff771cac) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">5-11</td> <td class="col-weight">210</td><td class="col-bd">32</td><td class="col-exp" rel="10"> 10 </td> <td class="col-college">Wisconsin</td> </tr><tr class="loop-even"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="10"> 10 </td> <td class="col-name"> Copper, Terrance (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Terrance-Copper/a2e41f57-62e8-4f7b-8cc8-19dffee2f025) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-0</td> <td class="col-weight">207</td><td class="col-bd">28</td><td class="col-exp" rel="07"> 7 </td> <td class="col-college">East Carolina</td> </tr><tr class="loop-odd"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="13"> 13 </td> <td class="col-name"> Gunnell, Rich (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Rich-Gunnell/66ff06e7-a817-4fea-92f9-51d1effc2aec) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">5-11</td> <td class="col-weight">197</td><td class="col-bd">23</td><td class="col-exp" rel="00"> R </td> <td class="col-college">Boston College</td> </tr><tr class="loop-even"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="08"> 8 </td> <td class="col-name"> Horne, Jeremy (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Jeremy-Horne/89a2c9fd-c2e5-4826-aea8-d327b0c80f5a) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-2</td> <td class="col-weight">193</td><td class="col-bd">23</td><td class="col-exp" rel="00"> R </td> <td class="col-college">Massachusetts</td> </tr><tr class="loop-odd"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="14"> 14 </td> <td class="col-name"> Lawrence, Quinten (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Quinten-Lawrence/405f8af8-e172-4b72-8622-723c5b8b79d7) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-0</td> <td class="col-weight">184</td><td class="col-bd">25</td><td class="col-exp" rel="02"> 2 </td> <td class="col-college">McNeese State</td> </tr><tr class="loop-even"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="17"> 17 </td> <td class="col-name"> Long, Lance (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Lance-Long/8265b98b-a290-4fe3-89a1-b67a69ded73e) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">5-11</td> <td class="col-weight">186</td><td class="col-bd">25</td><td class="col-exp" rel="02"> 2 </td> <td class="col-college">Mississippi State</td> </tr><tr class="loop-odd"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="22"> 22 </td> <td class="col-name"> McCluster, Dexter (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Dexter-McCluster/7c2b89a1-3f6f-4dd4-9ee7-7978f33af93d) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">5-8</td> <td class="col-weight">170</td><td class="col-bd">21</td><td class="col-exp" rel="00"> R </td> <td class="col-college">Mississippi</td> </tr><tr class="loop-even"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="15"> 15 </td> <td class="col-name"> Tucker, Verran (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Verran-Tucker/e1b8e9f6-7d9f-441c-a132-19dd1693f619) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-1</td> <td class="col-weight">204</td><td class="col-bd">22</td><td class="col-exp" rel="00"> R </td> <td class="col-college">California</td> </tr><tr class="loop-odd"> <td class="col-jersey" rel="83"> 83 </td> <td class="col-name"> Urban, Jerheme (http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Jerheme-Urban/2644156c-696b-4f05-8df3-d5a4ef53d0ad) </td> <td class="col-position">WR</td> <td class="col-height">6-3</td> <td class="col-weight">207</td><td class="col-bd">29</td><td class="col-exp" rel="06"> 6 </td> <td class="col-college">Trinity (TX)</td></tr></tbody></table>
Bowe,Chambers,Horne,McCluster,Urban?

might be able to keep copper too since DMC in consider multi-purpose and copper is ST

I only see 4 there that deserve a spot on the team.

I love Urban's size but he's done little to impress me. Bowe, McCluster, Horne, and Chambers.

Who else deserves a spot?

Rausch
08-24-2010, 12:04 PM
Joe Horn 2.0

As far as Joe Horn's time and role in KC, yeah, that's exactly what I thought...

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2010, 12:44 PM
I don't think Horne's in danger of being cut until the final 53 cutdown. If he continues to impress against Philly & Green Bay, you have to keep him on the roster, especially since Haley fancies himself a "WR guru".

Horne has the size and speed to be a very effective downfield target and he's a rookie from a smaller school. You just can't let a guy like that get away.

jspchief
08-24-2010, 12:49 PM
My guess is that TD just bought Horne some more playing time with the 1st team in an effort to further evaluate him. It's too bad that starter time shrinks as the preseason goes on, just as guys work their way up to a chance with the big dogs, the big dogs stop playing.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2010, 12:54 PM
My guess is that TD just bought Horne some more playing time with the 1st team in an effort to further evaluate him. It's too bad that starter time shrinks as the preseason goes on, just as guys work their way up to a chance with the big dogs, the big dogs stop playing.

I also think that Victor Cruz is helping out Horne as well.

Hog Farmer
08-24-2010, 12:56 PM
My guess is that TD just bought Horne some more playing time with the 1st team in an effort to further evaluate him. It's too bad that starter time shrinks as the preseason goes on, just as guys work their way up to a chance with the big dogs, the big dogs stop playing.

That's why I think going to two preseason games is a horrible idea. and I hate preseason.

milkman
08-24-2010, 03:04 PM
My guess is that TD just bought Horne some more playing time with the 1st team in an effort to further evaluate him. It's too bad that starter time shrinks as the preseason goes on, just as guys work their way up to a chance with the big dogs, the big dogs stop playing.

This next game the starters will play into the third quarter, getting the most work of any preseason game.

milkman
08-24-2010, 03:05 PM
That's why I think going to two preseason games is a horrible idea. and I hate preseason.

I thought it was bad idea to cut two games back when it was six.

BossChief
08-24-2010, 03:57 PM
I thought it was bad idea to cut two games back when it was six.

damn, you are old.

There used to be six?

Do you still have your ticket stubs to David and Goliath too?

:p