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gblowfish
09-07-2010, 07:38 PM
The Royals are a bunch of choking, losing, pathetic pants wetters.

That is all.

JoeyChuckles
09-07-2010, 07:40 PM
Disagreed

Shogun
09-07-2010, 07:40 PM
Yeah, but next year will be our year!

Shogun
09-07-2010, 07:40 PM
I'd love to hear your opinion of Matt Cassel while we have you here

Sam Hall
09-07-2010, 07:40 PM
They keep losing, but their draft position stays the same. That's the mark of a typical Kansas City pro sports team.

cdcox
09-07-2010, 07:40 PM
Repost.

Gravedigger
09-07-2010, 07:46 PM
Stating the obvious is not reason for a new post. Quit beating up the challenged kid and do something productive.

SnakeXJones
09-07-2010, 07:47 PM
Having Bannister starting the game will do that

Deberg_1990
09-07-2010, 07:49 PM
Yeah, but next year will be our year!

been sayin the same thing for 25 years!

BWillie
09-07-2010, 07:56 PM
I'm just rooting for comical Yuni homers, and success by Alex Gordon and Kila...which hasn't panned out so good lately.

Delano
09-07-2010, 08:17 PM
Thome. Thome. Thome.

Liriaaaaaanooooo.
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Gonzo
09-07-2010, 08:30 PM
I'm sick of it too man. After Yost replaced Hillman I really honestly thought that they'd stumble upon mediocrity. They almost accomplished it too but then sometime around late July they shit the bed and realized who they were.
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KCUnited
09-07-2010, 08:46 PM
Nice to see Banny and Hoch return to their pre-DL selfs.

|Zach|
09-07-2010, 08:49 PM
It doesn't help that they play a boring sport.

thurman merman
09-07-2010, 08:55 PM
Bannister does not deserve to ever pitch another major league game.

LaChapelle
09-07-2010, 09:04 PM
Did [whoever the fuck is the manager now] flip you off

Ebolapox
09-07-2010, 09:14 PM
It doesn't help that they play a boring sport.

Dude. you're a soccer fan. you can't call ANY sport boring due to this fact.

BWillie
09-07-2010, 09:16 PM
I'm sick of it too man. After Yost replaced Hillman I really honestly thought that they'd stumble upon mediocrity. They almost accomplished it too but then sometime around late July they shit the bed and realized who they were.
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I'm a huge believer that in baseball the manager really doesn't matter. Hell, if they let me manage, I'd sure be the worst manager in the league, but it'd probably only account for 5 more losses. Big deal.

milkman
09-07-2010, 09:21 PM
I'm a huge believer that in baseball the manager really doesn't matter. Hell, if they let me manage, I'd sure be the worst manager in the league, but it'd probably only account for 5 more losses. Big deal.

5 games can be huge in a pennant race, and I think managers have their biggest impact in playoff games.

teedubya
09-07-2010, 10:22 PM
It doesn't help that they play a boring sport.

Says the SOCCER fan. ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-07-2010, 10:26 PM
The Royals...LMAO

|Zach|
09-07-2010, 10:38 PM
Says the SOCCER fan. ROFL

Soccer in this country has been appreciative of the growing apathy people have for the MLB.

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-07-2010, 10:41 PM
It doesn't help that they play a boring sport.

Says the SOCCER fan. ROFL

Guys, guys.......they both suck dog-rocket.

You're welcome:thumb:

bigbucks24
09-08-2010, 01:14 AM
I'm a huge believer that in baseball the manager really doesn't matter. Hell, if they let me manage, I'd sure be the worst manager in the league, but it'd probably only account for 5 more losses. Big deal.

Tell that to the Orioles, who were 32-73 (.303) before Buck Showalter and 21-13 (.618) since.

WhitiE
09-08-2010, 06:29 AM
Repost.

lol :thumb:

DeezNutz
09-08-2010, 06:56 AM
Tell that to the Orioles, who were 32-73 (.303) before Buck Showalter and 21-13 (.618) since.

Always a bump when a new manager is hired. Always.

Doesn't change the fact that ML managers are the least important "coaches" in any of the major sports.

eazyb81
09-08-2010, 07:18 AM
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The Royals will make the playoffs before the Chiefs do.

The talent coming up through KC's farm system over the next 2-3 years is incredible.

Bob Dole
09-08-2010, 07:24 AM
5 games can be huge in a pennant race...

What's that?

Bob Dole
09-08-2010, 07:25 AM
Always a bump when a new manager is hired. Always.


Maybe next season the Royals should experiment by firing their manager every 6 weeks.

ChiTown
09-08-2010, 07:35 AM
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The Royals will make the playoffs before the Chiefs do.

The talent coming up through KC's farm system over the next 2-3 years is incredible.

You're on. How much you want to bet?

gblowfish
09-08-2010, 08:14 AM
Royals were mathematically eliminated with last night's loss.

Reminds me of the scene in Waterworld where the match gets dropped into the oil tanker, and the old guy slaving away in the hull sees the huge fireball coming and says...

"Oh Thank God!"

Deberg_1990
09-08-2010, 08:20 AM
How much longer does Dayton get a pass?? Royals are no better off than when he came aboard....

sedated
09-08-2010, 08:29 AM
Tell that to the Orioles, who were 32-73 (.303) before Buck Showalter and 21-13 (.618) since.

the Orioles also had a roster full of great young talent.

sedated
09-08-2010, 08:30 AM
How much longer does Dayton get a pass?? Royals are no better off than when he came aboard....

spoken like someone who has no idea what the "minor leagues" are.

Deberg_1990
09-08-2010, 08:56 AM
spoken like someone who has no idea what the "minor leagues" are.

All i care about is WINS and LOSSES. Thats great and all to have prospects, but at some point it needs to translate to WINS on the field.

DeezNutz
09-08-2010, 08:59 AM
The improvements in the minors have everything to do with Glass spending money and little to do with Dayton Moore (or any other possible GM).

What we know for sure is that DM cannot construct a ML roster worth a damn. We'll soon find out if the resources from the draft are able to overcome these failings.

DeezNutz
09-08-2010, 09:01 AM
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The Royals will make the playoffs before the Chiefs do.

The talent coming up through KC's farm system over the next 2-3 years is incredible.

The Chiefs should contend for a playoff spot next year. *Should.*

Even if the majority of the Royals young talent pans out, we're still talking about 2013-14, at the absolute earliest, for having a realistic shot at contention.

gblowfish
09-08-2010, 09:18 AM
The Royals have been "three years away" for 25 years now. You really can fool some of the people all of the time.

eazyb81
09-08-2010, 09:25 AM
The Chiefs should contend for a playoff spot next year. *Should.*

Really? Is next year the big Cassel breakthrough? KC has arguably the least amount of young talent in the league.

Even if the majority of the Royals young talent pans out, we're still talking about 2013-14, at the absolute earliest, for having a realistic shot at contention.

Not necessarily. Look at Tampa, the closest comp for our minor league system and what we're trying to do. Tampa went from worst to first in one year when all their young talent came up at the same time.

Not only does KC have the best farm system in the majors, but our top talent is all bunched together in the high minors and will come up within 1-2 years of each other.

By the start of 2012, Moose, Hosmer, Montgomery, Duffy, and Giavotella will be on MLB team, with Lamb, Dwyer, Crow, Colon, Myers, Robinson, Orlando, Eibner, etc. as possibilities to start or at least finish the year. Add those guys in with Butler, Gordon, Soria, and Greinke, and contending in the AL Central is not hard to envision.

DeezNutz
09-08-2010, 09:32 AM
Really? Is next year the big Cassel breakthrough?

Even if the majority of the Royals young talent pans out, we're still talking about 2013-14, at the absolute earliest, for having a realistic shot at contention.

Not necessarily. Look at Tampa, the closest comp for our minor league system and what we're trying to do. Tampa went from worst to first in one year when all their young talent came up at the same time.

Not only does KC have the best farm system in the majors, but our top talent is all bunched together in the high minors and will come up within 1-2 years of each other.

By the start of 2012, Moose, Hosmer, Montgomery, Duffy, and Giavotella will be on MLB team, with Lamb, Dwyer, Crow, Colon, Myers, Robinson, Orlando, Eibner, etc. as possibilities to start or at least finish the year. Add those guys in with Butler, Gordon, Soria, and Greinke, and contending in the AL Central is not hard to envision.[/QUOTE]

I understand what you're saying, but we need to temper the optimism a bit because most of these guys won't live up to their potential.

Hell, you want to make any claims about Crow's future success? Me either. We desperately need Moose or Hosmer to be a star. Will both? Very, very doubtful--my money is on Hosmer.

We have a great young wave coming, for sure. Let's hope a couple of these guys make a huge impact, but then we'll need another wave and savvy moves in FA and trades. And the latter categories have proven not to be DM's strengths, unfortunately.

Sadly, Moore's 2015 comment could be more correct than we want to admit. Let's hope for the exception (TB), but we can't realistically expect it.

blaise
09-08-2010, 09:37 AM
Bookmark It:

The Royals will make the playoffs before the Chiefs do.

The talent coming up through KC's farm system over the next 2-3 years is incredible.

Uh huh. It's only incredible when they do it in the majors, until then it's talk.

eazyb81
09-08-2010, 09:47 AM
I understand what you're saying, but we need to temper the optimism a bit because most of these guys won't live up to their potential.

Hell, you want to make any claims about Crow's future success? Me either. We desperately need Moose or Hosmer to be a star. Will both? Very, very doubtful--my money is on Hosmer.

We have a great young wave coming, for sure. Let's hope a couple of these guys make a huge impact, but then we'll need another wave and savvy moves in FA and trades. And the latter categories have proven not to be DM's strengths, unfortunately.

Sadly, Moore's 2015 comment could be more correct than we want to admit. Let's hope for the exception (TB), but we can't realistically expect it.

Hey, if you want to temper expectations that's fine. But I'm willing to go out on a limb now even if others on this board won't. The Royals have a ridiculous amount of minor league talent, and they are all packed in tight to arrive on the MLB scene within 1-2 years of each other, creating a massive opportunity for a small-market franchise like ours - especially one that competes in the AL Central.

Of course the odds are that not all of these guys will pan out. That's why it's so great to see the depth in our system. The Crow comment proves my point: no, I don't want to count on Crow's future success - but we don't have to. I am willing to count on two/three of Monty, Duffy, Lamb, Dwyer, Crow, Melville, Arguelles, and Crawford Simmons realizing their potential as mid to top of the rotation starters. I am willing to count on a few between Moose, Hosmer, Myers, Eibner, Colon, Giavotella, etc, etc, etc panning out.

We're no longer counting on Gordon alone to be the savior. It's a collection of talent that differentiates this era from past "rebuilding" efforts (I use the term very loosely since we actually just sucked and never had the type of young minor league talent in waiting to qualify the "rebuilding" term).

King_Chief_Fan
09-08-2010, 09:58 AM
The Royals are a bunch of choking, losing, pathetic pants wetters.

That is all.

at least you know every year they suck.......Being a Cards fan you get to watch implosion at its best

Fish
09-08-2010, 10:46 AM
Did you guys know that tickets are still available for remaining Royals games?

HemiEd
09-08-2010, 11:04 AM
Dude. you're a soccer fan. you can't call ANY sport boring due to this fact.

afuckingmen to that, geesh.

bigbucks24
09-08-2010, 10:34 PM
Really? Is next year the big Cassel breakthrough? KC has arguably the least amount of young talent in the league.



Not necessarily. Look at Tampa, the closest comp for our minor league system and what we're trying to do. Tampa went from worst to first in one year when all their young talent came up at the same time.

Not only does KC have the best farm system in the majors, but our top talent is all bunched together in the high minors and will come up within 1-2 years of each other.

By the start of 2012, Moose, Hosmer, Montgomery, Duffy, and Giavotella will be on MLB team, with Lamb, Dwyer, Crow, Colon, Myers, Robinson, Orlando, Eibner, etc. as possibilities to start or at least finish the year. Add those guys in with Butler, Gordon, Soria, and Greinke, and contending in the AL Central is not hard to envision.
Best? I can't find any publication that ranks them higher than 8th. And most rank the 12-14. I didn't search too much. What do you base your rankings on?

12. Kansas City Royals | Players in Top 100: 4
They have the pitching with Aaron Crow and Mike Montgomery. The position prospects the team is banking on -- Mike Moustakas and Eric Hosmer -- have hit some bumps in the road but this is still a very strong system overall.

Hitters Pitchers
Team A A- B+ B B- C+ A A- B+ B B- C+ Value
1 Indians 1 0 1 1 1 3 0 0 0 3 3 11 150.94
2 Athletics 0 1 2 1 5 1 0 0 0 0 2 10 140.88
3 Braves 1 0 1 0 1 3 0 0 0 4 2 8 133.84
4 Rays 1 0 0 0 2 4 0 2 1 1 3 6 133.32
5 Rangers 0 1 0 0 1 5 1 1 1 2 2 6 122.40
6 Cubs 0 0 2 2 2 3 0 0 0 2 1 6 120.94
7 Angels 0 0 2 0 3 3 0 0 0 2 4 6 120.14
8 Brewers 0 0 2 1 2 6 0 0 0 1 4 5 118.08
9 Red Sox 0 0 1 2 3 7 0 0 1 1 2 5 116.86
10 Giants 1 0 0 1 3 3 0 1 0 1 3 4 116.34
11 Padres 0 0 1 3 2 7 0 0 1 1 0 6 114.16
12 Royals 0 0 0 2 2 5 0 0 1 3 2 5 109.00

14. Royals - Next to the Cubs, I predict that this system will be drastically over-rated pre-season and shown to not be ready for prime time by the end. Only 1 of their 10 has made AA yet (#10, Lough, the definition of a tweener) and with the late arrival of Arguelles from Cuba, Lough won't even be on here. So none of their 10 will have made AA. They have a great collection of arms with Montgomery, Arguelles, Crow, Duffy, Melville, and Lamb but they need to be tested. Hosmer and Moustakas need to prove themselves.

13. Royals: Excellent top-level pitching supplemented by strong '09 draft class.

8. Kansas City Royals—Dayton Moore has been working on developing young talent in Kansas City, but at this point, the results seem mixed. The team’s luck has been bad, as the returns on Luke Hochevar and Alex Gordon have been less than expected so far. But the organization still has lots of young talent. Mike Moustakas, Eric Homser, and Kila Kia’hue could all become excellent corner infielders. Moreover, the team also has two excellent pitching prospects, as former Missouri standout Aaron Crow should join the rotation quickly while Cuban signee Noel Arguelles could become an excellent pitcher pitcher after several years of development

thurman merman
09-08-2010, 11:11 PM
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The Royals will make the playoffs before the Chiefs do.


How can we bet on this if all of us are dead before either one happens?

Bambi
09-08-2010, 11:15 PM
How can we bet on this if all of us are dead before either one happens?

haha

BWillie
09-09-2010, 12:31 AM
Best? I can't find any publication that ranks them higher than 8th. And most rank the 12-14. I didn't search too much. What do you base your rankings on?

12. Kansas City Royals | Players in Top 100: 4
They have the pitching with Aaron Crow and Mike Montgomery. The position prospects the team is banking on -- Mike Moustakas and Eric Hosmer -- have hit some bumps in the road but this is still a very strong system overall.

Hitters Pitchers
Team A A- B+ B B- C+ A A- B+ B B- C+ Value
1 Indians 1 0 1 1 1 3 0 0 0 3 3 11 150.94
2 Athletics 0 1 2 1 5 1 0 0 0 0 2 10 140.88
3 Braves 1 0 1 0 1 3 0 0 0 4 2 8 133.84
4 Rays 1 0 0 0 2 4 0 2 1 1 3 6 133.32
5 Rangers 0 1 0 0 1 5 1 1 1 2 2 6 122.40
6 Cubs 0 0 2 2 2 3 0 0 0 2 1 6 120.94
7 Angels 0 0 2 0 3 3 0 0 0 2 4 6 120.14
8 Brewers 0 0 2 1 2 6 0 0 0 1 4 5 118.08
9 Red Sox 0 0 1 2 3 7 0 0 1 1 2 5 116.86
10 Giants 1 0 0 1 3 3 0 1 0 1 3 4 116.34
11 Padres 0 0 1 3 2 7 0 0 1 1 0 6 114.16
12 Royals 0 0 0 2 2 5 0 0 1 3 2 5 109.00

14. Royals - Next to the Cubs, I predict that this system will be drastically over-rated pre-season and shown to not be ready for prime time by the end. Only 1 of their 10 has made AA yet (#10, Lough, the definition of a tweener) and with the late arrival of Arguelles from Cuba, Lough won't even be on here. So none of their 10 will have made AA. They have a great collection of arms with Montgomery, Arguelles, Crow, Duffy, Melville, and Lamb but they need to be tested. Hosmer and Moustakas need to prove themselves.

13. Royals: Excellent top-level pitching supplemented by strong '09 draft class.

8. Kansas City Royals—Dayton Moore has been working on developing young talent in Kansas City, but at this point, the results seem mixed. The team’s luck has been bad, as the returns on Luke Hochevar and Alex Gordon have been less than expected so far. But the organization still has lots of young talent. Mike Moustakas, Eric Homser, and Kila Kia’hue could all become excellent corner infielders. Moreover, the team also has two excellent pitching prospects, as former Missouri standout Aaron Crow should join the rotation quickly while Cuban signee Noel Arguelles could become an excellent pitcher pitcher after several years of development

Nobody has really updated their farm report rankings since the beginning of the year. I highly doubt the Royals will have many people ranking them lower than 6-7th.

eazyb81
09-09-2010, 06:16 AM
Best? I can't find any publication that ranks them higher than 8th. And most rank the 12-14. I didn't search too much. What do you base your rankings on?

12. Kansas City Royals | Players in Top 100: 4
They have the pitching with Aaron Crow and Mike Montgomery. The position prospects the team is banking on -- Mike Moustakas and Eric Hosmer -- have hit some bumps in the road but this is still a very strong system overall.

Hitters Pitchers
Team A A- B+ B B- C+ A A- B+ B B- C+ Value
1 Indians 1 0 1 1 1 3 0 0 0 3 3 11 150.94
2 Athletics 0 1 2 1 5 1 0 0 0 0 2 10 140.88
3 Braves 1 0 1 0 1 3 0 0 0 4 2 8 133.84
4 Rays 1 0 0 0 2 4 0 2 1 1 3 6 133.32
5 Rangers 0 1 0 0 1 5 1 1 1 2 2 6 122.40
6 Cubs 0 0 2 2 2 3 0 0 0 2 1 6 120.94
7 Angels 0 0 2 0 3 3 0 0 0 2 4 6 120.14
8 Brewers 0 0 2 1 2 6 0 0 0 1 4 5 118.08
9 Red Sox 0 0 1 2 3 7 0 0 1 1 2 5 116.86
10 Giants 1 0 0 1 3 3 0 1 0 1 3 4 116.34
11 Padres 0 0 1 3 2 7 0 0 1 1 0 6 114.16
12 Royals 0 0 0 2 2 5 0 0 1 3 2 5 109.00

14. Royals - Next to the Cubs, I predict that this system will be drastically over-rated pre-season and shown to not be ready for prime time by the end. Only 1 of their 10 has made AA yet (#10, Lough, the definition of a tweener) and with the late arrival of Arguelles from Cuba, Lough won't even be on here. So none of their 10 will have made AA. They have a great collection of arms with Montgomery, Arguelles, Crow, Duffy, Melville, and Lamb but they need to be tested. Hosmer and Moustakas need to prove themselves.

13. Royals: Excellent top-level pitching supplemented by strong '09 draft class.

8. Kansas City Royals—Dayton Moore has been working on developing young talent in Kansas City, but at this point, the results seem mixed. The team’s luck has been bad, as the returns on Luke Hochevar and Alex Gordon have been less than expected so far. But the organization still has lots of young talent. Mike Moustakas, Eric Homser, and Kila Kia’hue could all become excellent corner infielders. Moreover, the team also has two excellent pitching prospects, as former Missouri standout Aaron Crow should join the rotation quickly while Cuban signee Noel Arguelles could become an excellent pitcher pitcher after several years of development

Ugh.

:doh!:

You do realize that the rankings - all of them - are from before the 2010 season?

Christ, you'd think someone would have a f'n clue before trying to spout off like they know what they're talking about.

Both Baseball America and Baseball Prospectus - the two publications that really matter - have stated numerous times in chats and articles that KC has the best farm system right now and will be ranked #1 in the next organizational rankings, which should be released in early 2011.

Hell, BA KC had 4 legit candidates (out of 10 in all of baseball) for BA's minor league POY award that was announced on Tuesday. If that's not an indication of the elite minor league talent we have right now, I'm not sure what is.

|Zach|
09-09-2010, 08:42 AM
Ugh.

:doh!:

You do realize that the rankings - all of them - are from before the 2010 season?

Christ, you'd think someone would have a f'n clue before trying to spout off like they know what they're talking about.

Both Baseball America and Baseball Prospectus - the two publications that really matter - have stated numerous times in chats and articles that KC has the best farm system right now and will be ranked #1 in the next organizational rankings, which should be released in early 2011.

Hell, BA KC had 4 legit candidates (out of 10 in all of baseball) for BA's minor league POY award that was announced on Tuesday. If that's not an indication of the elite minor league talent we have right now, I'm not sure what is.

Yea, I have read this book before. You don't want to know how it ends.

Deberg_1990
09-09-2010, 08:44 AM
Yea, I have read this book before. You don't want to know how it ends.

Yea, it was called Alex Gordon. Great cover, but a sh*tty read.

eazyb81
09-09-2010, 09:30 AM
Yea, I have read this book before. You don't want to know how it ends.

Heh. Remind me of the last time we had the #1 overall farm system, let alone in the top 5?

Remind me of the time we were dreaming on 8-10 top prospects instead of 1 or 2?

Sorry, this isn't comparable to the Gordon and Butler minor league era. Gordon has been a massive bust, no doubt, but our system didn't have a fraction of the depth then that is does now.

gblowfish
09-09-2010, 09:33 AM
Heh. Remind me of the last time we had the #1 overall farm system, let alone in the top 5?

Remind me of the time we were dreaming on 8-10 top prospects instead of 1 or 2?

Sorry, this isn't comparable to the Gordon and Butler minor league era. Gordon has been a massive bust, no doubt, but our system didn't have a fraction of the depth then that is does now.

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DeezNutz
09-09-2010, 09:34 AM
We need all of these prospects to pan out to the tune of:

1. 2 star-caliber position players
2. A competent pitching staff. Competent. "Great" or "solid" would be preferable, but "competent" needs to be the baseline.

eazyb81
09-09-2010, 09:40 AM
We need all of these prospects to pan out to the tune of:

1. 2 star-caliber position players
2. A competent pitching staff. Competent. "Great" or "solid" would be preferable, but "competent" needs to be the baseline.

Agree.

I think there's a good chance that 2 of Moose, Hosmer, and Myers could pan out to that level, especially if they come up at roughly the same time and are surrounded by guys like DDJ, Butler, Kila, and Gordon.

Throw in prospects just below them like Giavotella, Colon, Lough, Robinson, Eibner, etc, and I'm not terribly worried about the position players.

I really like our pitching depth, but a couple Tommy John surgeries has a habit of making a system look thin on pitching in a hurry. Still, Monty, Lamb, Dwyer, and Duffy look solid in AA right now, and we have some fliers in Crow, Arguelles, Simmons, Melville, and Sample that have the potential to develop.

I'm not saying we're definitely going to win the World Series or anything crazy like that, but I do think it's funny that non-biased baseball guys or much, much higher on the Royals future prospects than many in KC are.

blaise
09-09-2010, 09:47 AM
Agree.

I think there's a good chance that 2 of Moose, Hosmer, and Myers could pan out to that level, especially if they come up at roughly the same time and are surrounded by guys like DDJ, Butler, Kila, and Gordon.

Throw in prospects just below them like Giavotella, Colon, Lough, Robinson, Eibner, etc, and I'm not terribly worried about the position players.

I really like our pitching depth, but a couple Tommy John surgeries has a habit of making a system look thin on pitching in a hurry. Still, Monty, Lamb, Dwyer, and Duffy look solid in AA right now, and we have some fliers in Crow, Arguelles, Simmons, Melville, and Sample that have the potential to develop.

I'm not saying we're definitely going to win the World Series or anything crazy like that, but I do think it's funny that non-biased baseball guys or much, much higher on the Royals future prospects than many in KC are.

But surely you can understand pessimism and apathy from Royals fans who have seen horrible baseball for 20 years now. Prospects aren't going to be enough to sell most people. Maybe if it had been 5 or 6 years of losing, but after 20 years or so I think the standard from most people is, "Show me on the field, until then I'm not buying any of it."

Deberg_1990
09-09-2010, 09:55 AM
But surely you can understand pessimism and apathy from Royals fans who have seen horrible baseball for 20 years now. Prospects aren't going to be enough to sell most people. Maybe if it had been 5 or 6 years of losing, but after 20 years or so I think the standard from most people is, "Show me on the field, until then I'm not buying any of it."

Exactly..same old song and dance now for 25 years.

"wait till 3 years from now, the Farm system is loaded!"

eazyb81
09-09-2010, 11:25 AM
But surely you can understand pessimism and apathy from Royals fans who have seen horrible baseball for 20 years now. Prospects aren't going to be enough to sell most people. Maybe if it had been 5 or 6 years of losing, but after 20 years or so I think the standard from most people is, "Show me on the field, until then I'm not buying any of it."

Not really, I would expect most people to use logic and objectivity rather than whine that the Royals in 2013 can't be any good since the Royals in 1998 or some other random year sucked.

blaise
09-09-2010, 11:26 AM
Not really, I would expect most people to use logic and objectivity rather than whine that the Royals in 2013 can't be any good since the Royals in 1998 or some other random year sucked.

Logic tells me that the Royals will continue to be a bad MLB team until proven otherwise.

bigbucks24
09-09-2010, 04:58 PM
Ugh.

:doh!:

You do realize that the rankings - all of them - are from before the 2010 season?

Christ, you'd think someone would have a f'n clue before trying to spout off like they know what they're talking about.

Both Baseball America and Baseball Prospectus - the two publications that really matter - have stated numerous times in chats and articles that KC has the best farm system right now and will be ranked #1 in the next organizational rankings, which should be released in early 2011.

Hell, BA KC had 4 legit candidates (out of 10 in all of baseball) for BA's minor league POY award that was announced on Tuesday. If that's not an indication of the elite minor league talent we have right now, I'm not sure what is.

Guess that's why I asked where you found that they were ranked #1. If it's not too much trouble, could you link me to where you have read this? Appreciate it.