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Count Zarth
09-11-2010, 11:10 PM
Makes some good points. This is a big game.

Will Monday Night Be The Tipping Point? (http://kan.scout.com/2/1000609.html)

<table><tbody><tr><td valign="top">Back in the spring, as the NFL held its annual owners meetings, Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt spoke with the media about a request he’d made to the league. With the $375 million renovations to Arrowhead Stadium finally complete, Hunt – hoping to see the New Arrowhead christened in front of the entire country – asked the NFL to put the Chiefs’ home opener on national television.
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When the 2010 schedule was released the following month, we learned that Hunt had gotten his wish. This coming Monday, as part of the NFL’s kickoff weekend, the Chiefs will host Monday Night Football for the first time since 2004.

Just as Hunt had hoped, the entire football-loving world will be able to take part in the official debut of the New Arrowhead. The expectation is that the crowd will be jam-packed and rabid, ready to remind the rest of the league that Kansas City still has the loudest and proudest fans of any city in the NFL.

Come Monday night, the grand plan of showing off the Chiefs’ new stadium and their great fanbase will finally be fulfilled. Everything has gone according to plan, except for one small detail.

That would be the San Diego Chargers (http://sdg.scout.com/), who could easily serve as the proverbial rain on the Chiefs’ parade.

There’s an old saying that warns to be careful what you wish for, because you might just get it. One can only wonder if that saying crossed Hunt’s mind when he learned that the Chiefs’ national showcase would come against a team that, one short year ago, humiliated them by a combined score of 80-21. <table align="right" width="220" cellspacing="7"><tbody><tr><td>http://media.scout.com/media/image/84/842289.jpg
San Diego Chargers QB Philip Rivers has taken some lumps in the preseason.
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In their games against the Chargers last season, the Todd Haley-led Chiefs weren’t even competitive. With Kansas City’s pass rush looking as worrisome as a cloudy day, Philip Rivers threw the ball around the field at will, accumulating 5 touchdowns, no interceptions, and nearly 600 passing yards in the two-game series.

On the other hand, the Chiefs could hardly keep Matt Cassel (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=5024960) standing upright – though that may have been a blessing in disguise, since getting sacked probably prevented him from throwing a few more picks along the way.

Over the last several months, many in Chiefs Nation have avoided discussing those unpleasant memories. When it comes to Monday’s game, they’d rather talk about Vincent Jackson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4998717) and Marcus McNeill (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4998718), two key San Diego starters who won’t play in the game. They’d rather talk about the Chargers’ notoriously slow starts in recent years, including last season’s opener when they needed a last-second touchdown to avoid being upset by the Raiders.

Those are valid points, of course, but the way the Chiefs played a year ago, it’s hard to see how any of it would have mattered. As badly as the Chiefs looked, Jackson, McNeill, and a few more San Diego starters could have missed their flights to Kansas City, and the Chargers still would have won by double digits. <table align="left" width="220" cellspacing="7"><tbody><tr><td>http://media.scout.com/media/image/84/843855.jpg
Veteran Center Casey Wiegmann (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4847603) has steadied the entire offensive line.
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At least on paper, though, the Chiefs have gotten better. They’ve added two coordinators with Super Bowl pedigree. Ryan Lilja (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4852794) appears to be the enormous upgrade everyone hoped he’d be, and with Casey Wiegmann still having some gas in the tank, the offensive line should be far more stable. Then there’s Eric Berry (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=5025387), Thomas Jones (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4840882), a much-improved return game, and so on.

Logic would suggest that even if the Chiefs can’t actually beat the Chargers, they should at least be able to avoid a blowout.

But that’s the sort of thing we all thought last year. In 2008, the Chiefs lost two games to San Diego by a combined total of two points. When they met for the first time in 2009, few if any expected the Chiefs to get obliterated like they did. Not after playing the Chargers so closely the year before.

When they played the second time, hardly anyone expected it to happen again. We thought the first game was an aberration. We told ourselves that the team had learned something from it. Instead, they ended up getting beaten just as badly.

After the enormous eggs the Chiefs laid against San Diego last year, there’s really no telling how they’ll fare Monday night. Maybe they’ll win. Maybe they’ll come close and fall just short. Or, once again, maybe they’ll look like they don’t even belong on the same field with the Chargers. Any option seems as likely as the others.

Unsurprisingly, most of the national predictions for the game reflect what transpired a year ago. Summing up many of the thoughts outside Kansas City, Sports Illustrated’s Peter King, when asked to pick which NFL team would be the “surest best” to win in Week One, tweeted that he’d pick San Diego. <table align="right" width="220" cellspacing="7"><tbody><tr><td>http://media.scout.com/media/image/84/846545.jpg
Crennel has been a very steady teacher and leader for the Chiefs new defense.
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Of course, the fact that they enter the game as significant underdogs shouldn’t be news to the Chiefs. Haley, Charlie Weis, and Romeo Crennel have probably been looking towards the Chargers since the schedule was released. They know the importance of this game, not only to the Chiefs’ season, but to the man who signs their paychecks.

It’s important to note just how hands-on Clark Hunt has been throughout the renovation of Arrowhead. During a media tour of the stadium in July, he shared the story of how his father, ill and in his final days, told him to make sure the project was done correctly. In Hunt’s own words, the New Arrowhead was his father’s dying wish. Seeing it through to completion was clearly a personal and emotional experience for him.

Knowing all that, and recognizing how much the national unveiling means to Hunt, the question has to be asked: how’s he going to react if his big Monday night showcase is ruined by another humiliating loss?

As Scott Pioli enters his second season as Chiefs’ general manager, it’s fair to say that some missteps have been taken along the way. At this particular point in time, many would probably point to the Matt Cassel trade as one of them. Some may point to the Tyson Jackson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=5026665) pick, if not the 2009 draft as a whole.

If the Chiefs don’t get to the .500 mark this year, especially when taking their weak schedule into account, there will undoubtedly be people lining up to declare Pioli an abject failure.

As we all know, owners are rarely as reactionary as the fans. But after a year and a half on the job, if all that Pioli’s best efforts can produce is a team that gets slaughtered by the Chargers again – only this time, on a national telecast that Hunt specifically requested – you have to think it will resonate in the owner’s box. <table align="left" width="220" cellspacing="7"><tbody><tr><td>http://media.scout.com/media/image/71/719946.jpg
Pioli has given Haley more tools to work with in 2010. But will they be enough to dethrone the Chargers Monday?
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A tipping point is defined as the moment when the collective impact of several small events finally causes a major change to occur. One way or another, Monday night’s game against San Diego might prove to be a tipping point for the Chiefs.

If Kansas City can come away with a “W”, we may end up looking back at that victory as the moment when the Chiefs officially clawed their way out of the NFL’s cellar. All the additions we spoke of could bring about a much-needed win, and Monday night could be remembered as the point when the Chiefs declared to the rest of the league that they were a team to take seriously again.

On the other hand, if the missteps we ran down lead to the Chargers dishing out another embarrassing beating, it may not be an ordinary defeat. With everything that’s been invested in this game, we might look back on the loss to San Diego as the moment when the marriage between Hunt and Pioli started getting rocky.
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-King-
09-11-2010, 11:13 PM
He doesn't really discuss their relationship

DaneMcCloud
09-11-2010, 11:14 PM
Makes some good points. This is a big game.<table><tbody><tr><td valign="top">
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He didn't say anything that a number of us have said since March.

And he's a fool to suggest that Pioli would be on shaky ground.

Piolo has a guaranteed $5 million dollar per year contract and the Hunt Family has been notoriously slow to fire any GM/VP/Whatever.

I just hope Pioli pulls his head out of his fat fucking ass and brings in some serious personnel next year.

This roster sucks fucking ass.

CaliforniaChief
09-11-2010, 11:15 PM
I think the Hunt's were a LITTLE hasty to accept Carl's resignation.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-11-2010, 11:15 PM
I doubt Clark Hunt gives a fuck if we win or not. Now, if humiliating losses lead to even more blackouts and empty seats, he may notice, because the Chiefs are the family's primary source of revenue.

DeezNutz
09-11-2010, 11:17 PM
A tipping point is defined as the moment when the collective impact of several small events finally causes a major change to occur. One way or another, Monday night’s game against San Diego might prove to be a tipping point for the Chiefs.

LMAO.

And this is the moment when you should all realize that this dude cannot write for shit.

wasi
09-11-2010, 11:18 PM
He didn't say anything that a number of us have said since March.

And he's a fool to suggest that Pioli would be on shaky ground.

Piolo has a guaranteed $5 million dollar per year contract and the Hunt Family has been notoriously slow to fire any GM/VP/Whatever.

I just hope Pioli pulls his head out of his fat ****ing ass and brings in some serious personnel next year.

This roster sucks ****ing ass


You nailed it. It paints an overdramatic picture of the franchise. I doubt Pioli is going anywhere anytime soon.

T-post Tom
09-12-2010, 01:25 AM
And how much is that that Warpaint subscription rate?

Chiefspants
09-12-2010, 01:52 AM
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T-post Tom
09-12-2010, 02:04 AM
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T-post Tom
09-12-2010, 02:17 AM
Speaking of tipping points....

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the Talking Can
09-12-2010, 03:54 AM
yeah, we have the payroll of a texas highschool football team.....but this is the game where that tightwad clark decides whether he and pioli are going to be BFF...


good thing you aren't paying for any kind of actual information at warpaint....or even common ****ing sense

chiefsnorth
09-12-2010, 07:55 AM
Who is Michael ash and why should I care what he thinks?

milkman
09-12-2010, 08:00 AM
Who is Michael ash and why should I care what he thinks?

Michael Ash is an idiot, and you should care because idiocy is a disease that must be stamped out.

Count Zarth
09-12-2010, 08:01 AM
Milkman's on a rampage today.

DaFace
09-12-2010, 08:06 AM
He doesn't really discuss their relationship

This. The thread title and the article don't really line up.

booger
09-12-2010, 08:23 AM
I'll give you a laugher from the shit site. Thread about David Clowney.

Post #12 from this thread.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f=1837&t=6335106&p=1

athan says "Tucker will be the odd man out of he jumps to the Practice Squad. But the bigger move could be Monday. Stay tuned!!!"

So if they sign Clowney to the PS, Tucker gets cut from the PS. Only problem CLowney isn't eligable for the PS playing in 13 games last season.

Most of your average owners of websites, lead writers, etc, or at the very least someone who claims to be chief insider would know simple things like that.

Now to the bolded part. What the hell kind of transaction are they going to make on the game day of opening week of the MNF game? Pretty sure any roster moves prior to this game have to be made (today, sunday) a day before the game. So WTF is he getting at? Some lame assed attempt to get people to pay for the premium side. Hopefully those junior high kids that frequent that site can borrow mommy or daddy's CC to get the big scoop!!! I just laughed my ass off when i read that.

If that is coming from the publisher of the site who runs the show, who in their right mind would pay any attention to any articles coming from the place?

The Bad Guy
09-12-2010, 08:42 AM
Clowney isn't practice squad eligible. Another epic fail from Nick Athan.

booger
09-12-2010, 08:43 AM
seriously, what does he think, that the whole Palko on the PS is a cover for the huge move they are about to make and they sign Jeff Garcia Tommorrow in time for him to fly in and start against SD? Pioli and Haley with the element of suprise!!!1111

booger
09-12-2010, 08:44 AM
Clowney isn't practice squad eligible. Another epic fail from Nick "Assclown" Athan.

I know, what a complete asshat.

things like that are complete insults to the people who read that garbage.

Rausch
09-12-2010, 08:49 AM
I think the Hunt's were a LITTLE hasty to accept Carl's resignation.

...

Rausch
09-12-2010, 08:51 AM
I doubt Clark Hunt gives a **** if we win or not. Now, if humiliating losses lead to even more blackouts and empty seats, he may notice, because the Chiefs are the family's primary source of revenue.

Wha?...

Dude, you have no idea how stupid rich the Hunt family is...

booger
09-12-2010, 08:53 AM
brakeing noose:

nick athan has learned during achy breaky hart that carl d peterson any mardy shottenhymer will parashoot in from choppers in the anowncmint that they are induckted intoo the ring on onor. Stay toooned on word if Dick Vermeal will be they're.

Rausch
09-12-2010, 08:54 AM
I'll give you a laugher from the shit site. Thread about David Clowney.

Post #12 from this thread.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f=1837&t=6335106&p=1

athan says "Tucker will be the odd man out of he jumps to the Practice Squad. But the bigger move could be Monday. Stay tuned!!!"

So if they sign Clowney to the PS, Tucker gets cut from the PS. Only problem CLowney isn't eligable for the PS playing in 13 games last season.

Most of your average owners of websites, lead writers, etc, or at the very least someone who claims to be chief insider would know simple things like that.

Now to the bolded part. What the hell kind of transaction are they going to make on the game day of opening week of the MNF game? Pretty sure any roster moves prior to this game have to be made (today, sunday) a day before the game. So WTF is he getting at? Some lame assed attempt to get people to pay for the premium side. Hopefully those junior high kids that frequent that site can borrow mommy or daddy's CC to get the big scoop!!! I just laughed my ass off when i read that.

If that is coming from the publisher of the site who runs the show, who in their right mind would pay any attention to any articles coming from the place?

Oh, we COULD make a huge move that shocks the league and sends all our draft picks to Al Davis for the rights to Bo Jackson's sperm.








I mean, WE COULD...

booger
09-12-2010, 08:56 AM
Oh, we COULD make a huge move that shocks the league and sends all our draft picks to Al Davis for the rights to Bo Jackson's sperm.








I mean, WE COULD...

ROFL

that is atleast entertaining.

booger
09-12-2010, 08:59 AM
Oh, we COULD make a huge move that shocks the league and sends all our draft picks to Al Davis for the rights to Bo Jackson's sperm.








I mean, WE COULD...

there must be conditions to this trade. They must send their hottest cheer bitch carrying it in her mouth. then take her to mid field and kc wolf gets to punch her in the gut and watch the jizz run out her nose and Pioli announces the trade is off cause the little swimmers failed the physical.

Marcellus
09-12-2010, 09:06 AM
yeah, we have the payroll of a texas highschool football team.....but this is the game where that tightwad clark decides whether he and pioli are going to be BFF...

These types of off hand comments drive me nuts because it's BS. The Chiefs don't suck because Hunt is cheap, they suck due to bad personnel decisions. Please explain the part where how much $ you spend has a direct result on the level of the team. Sounds easy doesn't it? Yes the Chiefs are last in payroll right now. Guess who is #31? Baltimore who is touted on here as having one of the best FO in the league. Are they going to suck? Is their cheap ass ownership holding them back? Guess who is #30? NE, guess who is #29- Indy. Total suckage. Green Bay has the 5th lowest payroll.

5 of the bottom 10 teams in payroll are SB contenders.

(I would imagine Brady and Payton's new deals will raise the payroll but not significantly compared to where it is now)


Guess who's #1- That's right the almighty Raiders, SB bound. You really have to wonder are the Raiders $70MM per year better than KC in talent? The Browns are #4, I am sure they will at least make the AFC Championship Game.



http://www.altiusdirectory.com/Sports/nfl-salaries.php

NFL Teams Total Payroll
NFL Oakland Raiders Team Salaries $ 152,389,371
NFL Dallas Cowboys Team Salaries $ 146,401,600
NFL Minnesota Vikings Team Salaries $ 133,354,045
NFL Cleveland Browns Team Salaries $ 131,916,300
NFL New Orleans Saints Team Salaries $ 131,531,820
NFL Pittsburgh Steelers Team Salaries $ 128,815,061
NFL Tennessee Titans Team Salaries $ 126,017,443
NFL Arizona Cardinals Team Salaries $ 122,110,110
NFL Jacksonville Jaguars Team Salaries $ 122,109,207
NFL Chicago Bears Team Salaries $ 120,065,819
NFL San Francisco 49ers Team Salaries $ 118,766,239
NFL New York Jets Team Salaries $ 116,910,097
NFL St. Louis Rams Team Salaries $ 116,677,660
NFL New York Giants Team Salaries $ 115,816,180
NFL Miami Dolphins Team Salaries $ 114,649,660
NFL Buffalo Bills Team Salaries $ 113,364,927
NFL Carolina Panthers Team Salaries $ 112,114,711
NFL Washington Redskins Team Salaries $ 111,963,684
NFL San Diego Chargers Team Salaries $ 111,813,340
NFL Cincinnati Bengals Team Salaries $ 109,727,880
NFL Philadelphia Eagles Team Salaries $ 109,557,398
NFL Houston Texans Team Salaries $ 108,445,418
NFL Tampa Bay Buccaneers Team Sal $ 104,329,311
NFL Seattle Seahawks Team Salaries $ 102,985,710
NFL Atlanta Falcons Team Salaries $ 96,391,525
NFL Detroit Lions Team Salaries $ 95,827,117
NFL Denver Broncos Team Salaries $ 95,599,778
NFL Green Bay Packers Team Salaries $ 94,018,300
NFL Indianapolis Colts Team Salaries $ 93,373,915
NFL New England Patriots Team Salaries $ 92,734,120
NFL Baltimore Ravens Team Salaries $ 90,713,965
NFL Kansas City Chiefs Team Salaries $ 83,623,776


KC has one of the higher paid coaching staffs and GM's because Clark is so cheap.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion though. Lack of $ is why KC sucks.

AustinChief
09-12-2010, 09:16 AM
I doubt Clark Hunt gives a fuck if we win or not. Now, if humiliating losses lead to even more blackouts and empty seats, he may notice, because the Chiefs are the family's primary source of revenue.

Seriously? You actually think that? Of all of UHIs investments... the Chiefs are the most valuable, certainly... but they are far from being the "primary" source of revenue. I have a friend at Hunt Capitol in Dallas ... they are all over the place. Clark is an extremely competitive guy.. believe what you want, but he wants to win. (even if he doesn't know how to actually do that yet)

nychief
09-12-2010, 09:20 AM
actually he doesn't discuss their relationship.

Goldmember
09-12-2010, 09:21 AM
Good info...it appears the weak sisters are trying to buy themselves out a hole.

the Talking Can
09-12-2010, 10:04 AM
These types of off hand comments drive me nuts because it's BS. The Chiefs don't suck because Hunt is cheap, they suck due to bad personnel decisions. Please explain the part where how much $ you spend has a direct result on the level of the team. Sounds easy doesn't it? Yes the Chiefs are last in payroll right now. Guess who is #31? Baltimore who is touted on here as having one of the best FO in the league. Are they going to suck? Is their cheap ass ownership holding them back? Guess who is #30? NE, guess who is #29- Indy. Total suckage. Green Bay has the 5th lowest payroll.

5 of the bottom 10 teams in payroll are SB contenders.

(I would imagine Brady and Payton's new deals will raise the payroll but not significantly compared to where it is now)


Guess who's #1- That's right the almighty Raiders, SB bound. You really have to wonder are the Raiders $70MM per year better than KC in talent? The Browns are #4, I am sure they will at least make the AFC Championship Game.



http://www.altiusdirectory.com/Sports/nfl-salaries.php

NFL Teams Total Payroll
NFL Oakland Raiders Team Salaries $ 152,389,371
NFL Dallas Cowboys Team Salaries $ 146,401,600
NFL Minnesota Vikings Team Salaries $ 133,354,045
NFL Cleveland Browns Team Salaries $ 131,916,300
NFL New Orleans Saints Team Salaries $ 131,531,820
NFL Pittsburgh Steelers Team Salaries $ 128,815,061
NFL Tennessee Titans Team Salaries $ 126,017,443
NFL Arizona Cardinals Team Salaries $ 122,110,110
NFL Jacksonville Jaguars Team Salaries $ 122,109,207
NFL Chicago Bears Team Salaries $ 120,065,819
NFL San Francisco 49ers Team Salaries $ 118,766,239
NFL New York Jets Team Salaries $ 116,910,097
NFL St. Louis Rams Team Salaries $ 116,677,660
NFL New York Giants Team Salaries $ 115,816,180
NFL Miami Dolphins Team Salaries $ 114,649,660
NFL Buffalo Bills Team Salaries $ 113,364,927
NFL Carolina Panthers Team Salaries $ 112,114,711
NFL Washington Redskins Team Salaries $ 111,963,684
NFL San Diego Chargers Team Salaries $ 111,813,340
NFL Cincinnati Bengals Team Salaries $ 109,727,880
NFL Philadelphia Eagles Team Salaries $ 109,557,398
NFL Houston Texans Team Salaries $ 108,445,418
NFL Tampa Bay Buccaneers Team Sal $ 104,329,311
NFL Seattle Seahawks Team Salaries $ 102,985,710
NFL Atlanta Falcons Team Salaries $ 96,391,525
NFL Detroit Lions Team Salaries $ 95,827,117
NFL Denver Broncos Team Salaries $ 95,599,778
NFL Green Bay Packers Team Salaries $ 94,018,300
NFL Indianapolis Colts Team Salaries $ 93,373,915
NFL New England Patriots Team Salaries $ 92,734,120
NFL Baltimore Ravens Team Salaries $ 90,713,965
NFL Kansas City Chiefs Team Salaries $ 83,623,776


KC has one of the higher paid coaching staffs and GM's because Clark is so cheap.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion though. Lack of $ is why KC sucks.

kc fans and numbers, always a dangerous mix

you think any context at all is required to explain the numbers you copied and pasted?...

the best teams of the last decade have all routinely been in the top 12 of salary cap...pats, colts, ravens, steelers, saints (more recent), cardinals (dittos), cowboys, eagles....

yes, there are years (literally a single year, then back up) where they drop for rebuilding, or cutting vets, or whatever...but your post doesn't say what you think it says

and one year doesn't tell us anything

there is a clear and consistent link between these teams and their high payrolls...who cares if oakland spends money like retarded idiots

http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2006

FAX
09-12-2010, 10:10 AM
That's a lot of tipping points ... first, we tip one way then we tip the other way.

The Kansas City Weeble Wobbles.

FAX

Marcellus
09-12-2010, 10:10 AM
kc fans and numbers, always a dangerous mix





there is a clear and consistent link between these teams and their high payrolls...who cares if oakland spends money like retarded idiots

http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2006

How about 2007 when KC was in the top 5?

I can do this too.

http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2007

KC has been at the bottom the last 3 years. Remember when they said they were committed to building through the draft not FA. That's how it works.

It is a byproduct of how they are building.The Chiefs were big spenders for the most part up until 2008 and it got them shit. The cheap talk is BS.

chiefsnorth
09-12-2010, 10:15 AM
You can say the people Clark has chosen are incompetent, or that the Chiefs are not thefamily's biggest priority. Two things you can't say are that the Chiefs are the Hunt family's biggest moneymaker (stupid) or that Clark doesn't want to win(dumb)

Rausch
09-12-2010, 10:18 AM
there must be conditions to this trade.

No, not really.

Bo Jackson's sperm alone could beat the Broncos twice and the Chargers at least once.

And if we could clone Bo no less than 11 times Haley and Pioli both could go jump in the ****-off-n-die machine and we'd still make the playoffs.

















In all honesty, and not even in the spirit of joking around in the least bit, I suggest we look into this immediately...

FAX
09-12-2010, 10:20 AM
Cheer bitch?

Dang.

FAX

Chiefs Pantalones
09-12-2010, 10:21 AM
My dying wish wouldn't be a new stadium, it would be another Super Bowl title for the fans.

Rausch
09-12-2010, 10:21 AM
kc fans and numbers, always a dangerous mix

You always say this when someone throws some math at you.

Chiefshrink
09-12-2010, 10:49 AM
And why Clark is willing to the pay the fine for "false gamesmanship" i.e. to the Chargers getting McClusterF'd Mon nite!!!!

Chiefshrink
09-12-2010, 10:52 AM
Seriously? You actually think that? Of all of UHIs investments... the Chiefs are the most valuable, certainly... but they are far from being the "primary" source of revenue. I have a friend at Hunt Capitol in Dallas ... they are all over the place. Clark is an extremely competitive guy.. believe what you want, but he wants to win. (even if he doesn't know how to actually do that yet)

Precisely! And why Clark is willing to the pay the fine for "false gamesmanship" i.e. to the Chargers getting McClusterF'd Mon nite!!!!:thumb:

-King-
09-12-2010, 10:58 AM
Time out... the Drafturbators favorite team has the 2nd lowest payroll? LMAO LMAO

JASONSAUTO
09-12-2010, 11:04 AM
Time out... the Drafturbators favorite team has the 2nd lowest payroll? LMAO LMAO

actually 3 of the bottom five. ind gb bal.
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Mojo Jojo
09-12-2010, 01:33 PM
I doubt Clark Hunt gives a **** if we win or not. Now, if humiliating losses lead to even more blackouts and empty seats, he may notice, because the Chiefs are the family's primary source of revenue.

Dude, the Chiefs are a hobby. Hunt Unity owns Oil, Property Management (both commercial and residential), a part of Cedar Point (the amusement park company) and all the investments and interest over three generations. The Chiefs money is just pocket cash.

chiefzilla1501
09-12-2010, 01:41 PM
kc fans and numbers, always a dangerous mix

you think any context at all is required to explain the numbers you copied and pasted?...

the best teams of the last decade have all routinely been in the top 12 of salary cap...pats, colts, ravens, steelers, saints (more recent), cardinals (dittos), cowboys, eagles....

yes, there are years (literally a single year, then back up) where they drop for rebuilding, or cutting vets, or whatever...but your post doesn't say what you think it says

and one year doesn't tell us anything

there is a clear and consistent link between these teams and their high payrolls...who cares if oakland spends money like retarded idiots

http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2006

I would argue, though, that most of the good teams with high payrolls don't spend a whole ton in free agency. They have high payrolls because they build their team through the draft and then re-sign them to huge second contracts. That's the way that it should work. So I don't care about how much they spend, as long as the 2010 draft turns out well and we continue to draft well.

Mosbonian
09-12-2010, 02:09 PM
Dude, the Chiefs are a hobby. Hunt Unity owns Oil, Property Management (both commercial and residential), a part of Cedar Point (the amusement park company) and all the investments and interest over three generations. The Chiefs money is just pocket cash.

I thought they sold WOF to Cedar Fair, Inc and got out of the Amusement Park business. Did they keep an ownership in Cedar Fair?

Shaid
09-13-2010, 11:54 PM
I guess Pioli is safe. :rolleyes:

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