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HonestChieffan
09-14-2010, 08:18 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/michelle-obama-tells-restaurants-less-butter-more-apples/

Her butt wouldn't look like a wookies if she would cut back on a few butter pats her own bad self.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 08:31 AM
What a Bolshevik! This is the parents as consumers role—not someone in the Federal Govt using a bully pulpit to call out and admonish in a free society.
Besides will someone tell her it's not the butter it's the white flour, white sugar and high fructose corn syrup that are the real killers. How 'bout she get her husband
to stop those subsidies to the corn industry for their high fructose corn syrup products. That's the way to do it.

Jenson71
09-14-2010, 08:32 AM
That was a good message. And she appears to take good care of herself.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 08:38 AM
That was a good message. And she appears to take good care of herself.

It's patronizing and insulting goody-two-shoes holier-than-though about diet. Her butt is probably genetic though.

HonestChieffan
09-14-2010, 08:39 AM
That was a good message. And she appears to take good care of herself.


You can bet shes taking care of herself first. And the WH Chef wont be serving alfredo sauce made with skim milk.

alpha_omega
09-14-2010, 08:47 AM
I think she is just obsessed with food.

InChiefsHell
09-14-2010, 08:52 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Michelle-Obama-270x197.jpg

The picture of condescension...

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 09:00 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Michelle-Obama-270x197.jpg

The picture of condescension...

ROFL I LOVE it! +1 rep

blaise
09-14-2010, 09:01 AM
That's all well and good to say that when it's not your money backing the restaurant, but restaurants are in business to make money, not act as nutritionists to people too lazy to police what their kids eat. It's not up to restaurants to combat obesity. I do think restaurants should offer apple slices and other healthy alternatives in kids menu items, not out of some social obligation, but because I think there's a market for that. I think offering those things would get you more business.

ClevelandBronco
09-14-2010, 09:03 AM
Yeah, sure. I really need the opinion of some other guy's wife.

HonestChieffan
09-14-2010, 09:05 AM
That's all well and good to say that when it's not your money backing the restaurant, but restaurants are in business to make money, not act as nutritionists to people too lazy to police what their kids eat. It's not up to restaurants to combat obesity. I do think restaurants should offer apple slices and other healthy alternatives in kids menu items, not out of some social obligation, but because I think there's a market for that. I think offering those things would get you more business.


The people who need such things are not going to fine dining. They go to Popeyes and have no interest in a slice of apple with their chicken and a biskit dinner with a supersized slurpie.

blaise
09-14-2010, 09:12 AM
The people who need such things are not going to fine dining. They go to Popeyes and have no interest in a slice of apple with their chicken and a biskit dinner with a supersized slurpie.

I don't know. Since McDonalds started selling apple slices, that's what I get for my kids as the side item instead of french fries. That's why I think it's good business. I bet McDonalds sells a lot of apple slices. I'm sure the profit margin on those is much smaller than french fries, but if it gets people to go to McDonalds more often than they otherwise would it's good business. Especially if you're competing against other fast food restaurants that don't offer that choice.
But, like I said, that's a business decision, not an ethical one done out of some obligation to limit obesity.

eazyb81
09-14-2010, 09:16 AM
It's patronizing and insulting goody-two-shoes holier-than-though about diet. Her butt is probably genetic though.

Have you looked at how fat kids are these days? It's abundantly clear that most parents are unable to feed their kids a nutritious diet to maintain proper body weight.

Child obesity is a major problem for this country and it is only getting worse.

HonestChieffan
09-14-2010, 09:17 AM
I don't know. Since McDonalds started selling apple slices, that's what I get for my kids as the side item instead of french fries. That's why I think it's good business. I bet McDonalds sells a lot of apple slices. I'm sure the profit margin on those is much smaller than french fries, but if it gets people to go to McDonalds more often than they otherwise would it's good business. Especially if you're competing against other fast food restaurants that don't offer that choice.
But, like I said, that's a business decision, not an ethical one done out of some obligation to limit obesity.


No doubt. They also did the salad thing and thats very cool.

eazyb81
09-14-2010, 09:17 AM
The people who need such things are not going to fine dining. They go to Popeyes and have no interest in a slice of apple with their chicken and a biskit dinner with a supersized slurpie.

Sad but true for the most part.

InChiefsHell
09-14-2010, 09:21 AM
Have you looked at how fat kids are these days? It's abundantly clear that most parents are unable to feed their kids a nutritious diet to maintain proper body weight.

Child obesity is a major problem for this country and it is only getting worse.

Quit feeding Jr. a pile of shit and tell him to turn off the PS3 and go outside and play. Problem solved...

...no way are parents UNABLE to provide a nutritious diet...that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

HonestChieffan
09-14-2010, 09:31 AM
Quit feeding Jr. a pile of shit and tell him to turn off the PS3 and go outside and play. Problem solved...

...no way are parents UNABLE to provide a nutritious diet...that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Gonna have to get you a book on modern child rearing. Telling children what to do can cause serious damage to the self image of the youngster. Bossy old bastards like you end up sad and alone when their children take revenge later in life. Self actualization is a self directed process of discovery through experiences and reacting to stimuli.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 09:32 AM
The people who need such things are not going to fine dining. They go to Popeyes and have no interest in a slice of apple with their chicken and a biskit dinner with a supersized slurpie.

Hate to break it to ya' but it's been found that it's the higher price chic places that have more fat in their meals than the fast food places. The FFP have been under such heavy onslaught they've made changes to their menus.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 09:36 AM
Have you looked at how fat kids are these days? It's abundantly clear that most parents are unable to feed their kids a nutritious diet to maintain proper body weight.

Child obesity is a major problem for this country and it is only getting worse.

I agree. But it's irrelevant to my post. It's none of her dayum bizness or the govt's was my point. We don't need a babysitter on our diets.

Now speaking of looking at things:
Did you look at my post about corn subsidies to places making high fructose corn syrup because it's cheap but is wrecking bodies?

That's doing a LOT of the damage because it's in everything. That's contributing to more kids with diabetes and adult diabetes, overweight and heart disease. That's due to govt policy. Govt will not make this better.

What makes it better is individuals taking personal responsibility whereby restaurants will respond to their demands.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 09:42 AM
This just showed up on Lew's site after my last post:

As more and more Americans wake up to the dangers posed by high-fructose corn syrup–promoted by the feds through massive domestic farm subsidies and protectionism against Cuban sugar–the political corn industry wants to change the name of its federal product.

There is a massive ad campaign going on now to convince us all it’s just “corn sugar,” and no different in any way from sugar sugar.

But cane sugar is the only caloric sweetener that makes any health or taste sense. Just drink a Mexican Coke as versus an American one. And it is great to see Pepsi Throwback, which also uses real sugar. Of course, for non-caloric sweeteners, only stevia and splenda, not the evil aspartame, make health or taste sense. But how about some stevia or splenda-sweetened Coke or Pepsi?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/65443.html

eazyb81
09-14-2010, 09:50 AM
Quit feeding Jr. a pile of shit and tell him to turn off the PS3 and go outside and play. Problem solved...

...no way are parents UNABLE to provide a nutritious diet...that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Actions speak louder than words buddy. Like I said - look around. There are obese children everywhere. Of course parents have the ability to force their kids to eat well and play outside, but the huge majority of them don't.

blaise
09-14-2010, 10:08 AM
Actions speak louder than words buddy. Like I said - look around. There are obese children everywhere. Of course parents have the ability to force their kids to eat well and play outside, but the huge majority of them don't.

But that's no reason to start telling restaurants what items to sell and which ingredients to use.

eazyb81
09-14-2010, 10:16 AM
But that's no reason to start telling restaurants what items to sell and which ingredients to use.

What is the answer? Awful food choices are slowly killing this country.

I'm not sure anyone is in favor of preventing restaurants from serving french fries ever again, but I don't see anything wrong with nudging them to offer higher-quality items.

It's a slippery slope, sure, but changing how this country eats is the one surefire way to actually decrease the healthcare cost curve. Of course we could just keep increasing premiums and taxing rich people 20+% more each year.

Brock
09-14-2010, 10:18 AM
What is the answer? Awful food choices are slowly killing this country.

People getting off their asses is the answer.

blaise
09-14-2010, 10:28 AM
What is the answer? Awful food choices are slowly killing this country.

I'm not sure anyone is in favor of preventing restaurants from serving french fries ever again, but I don't see anything wrong with nudging them to offer higher-quality items.

It's a slippery slope, sure, but changing how this country eats is the one surefire way to actually decrease the healthcare cost curve. Of course we could just keep increasing premiums and taxing rich people 20+% more each year.

It depends what you mean by "nudging". If you mean saying, "It's a good idea" that's one thing. If you're telling them what to sell, or levy some kind of tax, it's another. What's next, are you going to tax cable companies and TV networks for making it too easy to sit on the couch? Are you going to levy a tax on video game companies?
Changing the way the country eats shouldn't be the responsibilty of the restaurant industry. I think that would be an unfair practice. How are you going to single out the restaurants, but let other industries off the hook?
It's not like people don't have a choice. You have to make a conscious decision to go to a restaurant and buy french fries. There's ample time to consider what you're doing. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a minumum level of personal responsibility, and making good food choices is basically the minimum level of personal responsibilty. There's no good reason that anyone in this country should be confused about the risks of eating junk food or fast food. The restaurants shouldn't be at fault because people are literally too stupid and lazy to control what food goes in their mouths.
It's like that movie Idiocracy. I understand not allowing companies to sell dangerous products, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about saying that, "You're too lazy or dumb to decide, so we need to control what is available to you."
(not that that's what Michelle Obama is saying, by the way)

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 10:32 AM
What is the answer? Awful food choices are slowly killing this country.
I gave you an answer:

1) Personal responsibility ( that includes parental responsibility)
2) End govt subsidies for the production of harmful foods and sweetners that make some of the culprits for this condition less available.

The solution is not to restrict more freedom and expand more govt into our lives. The more we do the latter the less responsible people act if you haven't noticed.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 10:33 AM
People getting off their asses is the answer.

Are you standing or running on a treadmill when you post?

Jenson71
09-14-2010, 10:33 AM
It's patronizing and insulting goody-two-shoes holier-than-though about diet. Her butt is probably genetic though.

Considering your recent comment on Gov. Christie, I find your attitude now quite ironic.

Obama is not forcing restaurants what to sell or not to sell. She is suggesting, at a conference held by the National Restuarant Association who asked her to speak, knowing she has been vocal about childhood nutrition, that restaurants expand their menus to include healthier choices. It's a simple business suggestion.

No one is surprised that you would consider this socio-fascist-mercantilist-introduction-of-Sharia-Law. You have no perspective on reality.

dirk digler
09-14-2010, 10:37 AM
Obama is not forcing restaurants what to sell or not to sell. She is suggesting, at a conference held by the National Restuarant Association who asked her to speak, knowing she has been vocal about childhood nutrition, that restaurants expand their menus to include healthier choices. It's a simple business suggestion.


Yep I don't see anything wrong with what she said at all. She asked for their help not telling them what to do.

And hcf I like you but what is up with calling the First Lady a Wookie?

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 10:38 AM
Considering your recent comment on Gov. Christie, I find your attitude now quite ironic.
Of course, one with no sense of humor would say that.
In order to detect humor one has see why it was a statement that didn't fit at the time. You're incapable of discernment.

Furthermore, there is a difference between commenting about someone who spouse is head of our govt which wields power or force on others. Something you on the left are incapable of differentiating but seem to think all is alike. She was warning them. I wasn't warning Christie....it was intended as a light comment.

Obama is not forcing restaurants what to sell or not to sell. She is suggesting, at a conference held by the National Restuarant Association who asked her to speak, knowing she has been vocal about childhood nutrition, that restaurants expand their menus to include healthier choices. It's a simple business suggestion.]]Please read what I actually wrote and really discern what I actually said. She's still acting as a spokesperson from the govt.

You're stoopid. Nuff said.

BIG_DADDY
09-14-2010, 10:39 AM
Lets play pretend like Michelle gives two fucks about kids.

42 vaccine schedule.
Processed foods.
HFCS in every friggen thing sponsored by our government.
Monsanto
Don't even get me started on meat.

It's the new America. No wonder out kids are so fucked up.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 10:40 AM
Yep I don't see anything wrong with what she said at all. She asked for their help not telling them what to do.
She is chiding them them what to do. She represents officiality and power. If they ignored her or refused to take up her suggestions then what do you think she might do next, especially with a progressive husband who is president? It's very much implied just because of who she is.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 10:45 AM
Geoff Tracy, owner of four restaurants in the Washington area, said he rewrote his restaurants’ menus after he had his own children. Kids can now have smaller portions of adult meals and fruit like pineapple skewers on the side. Seems to me he didn't without Michelle's prodding.

“I don’t think we give kids enough credit,” he said.
Michelle doesn't either—nor for individuals or the market.

Jenson71
09-14-2010, 10:49 AM
Yep I don't see anything wrong with what she said at all. She asked for their help not telling them what to do.

And hcf I like you but what is up with calling the First Lady a Wookie?

Why would you like HCF? I distinctly remember when Taco John called out his racism (a charge that, coming from Taco John, I take seriously). He's a classless moron.

Jenson71
09-14-2010, 10:51 AM
Of course, one with no sense of humor would say that.
In order to detect humor one has see why it was a statement that didn't fit at the time. You're incapable of discernment.

Furthermore, there is a difference between commenting about someone who spouse is head of our govt which wields power or force on others. Something you on the left are incapable of differentiating but seem to think all is alike. She was warning them. I wasn't warning Christie....it was intended as a light comment.

]]Please read what I actually wrote and really discern what I actually said. She's still acting as a spokesperson from the govt.

You're stoopid. Nuff said.

Fantastic reasoning in your counter-argument.

Brock
09-14-2010, 10:51 AM
Are you standing or running on a treadmill when you post?

Yeah, because posting here means I don't exercise. Idiot.

Jenson71
09-14-2010, 10:51 AM
She is chiding them them what to do. She represents officiality and power. If they ignored her or refused to take up her suggestions then what do you think she might do next, especially with a progressive husband who is president? It's very much implied just because of who she is.

She will obviously imprison them. WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR COUNTRY!?!

Brock
09-14-2010, 10:53 AM
And hcf I like you but what is up with calling the First Lady a Wookie?

She could definitely fill out a Chewbacca costume.

Jenson71
09-14-2010, 11:00 AM
She is chiding them them what to do. She represents officiality and power. If they ignored her or refused to take up her suggestions then what do you think she might do next, especially with a progressive husband who is president? It's very much implied just because of who she is.

With all this Fascist-Socialist oppression going on by the Imperial Executive (and his wife, who you appear to find a Marie Antoinette figure), I find it amazing that you can sit here and rack up 28,000 posts, day in and day out. Either you don't believe in your cause, in which case, I don't think we should take you seriously, or you don't believe in yourself, in which case, I don't think we should take you seriously. Either way, we shouldn't take you seriously.

Jenson71
09-14-2010, 11:01 AM
You're stoopid. Nuff said.

Why are you such a pathetic coward that when the Bolsheviks have taken over for good, you can only sit back and chat about your dislike of it?

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 11:03 AM
With all this Fascist-Socialist oppression going on by the Imperial Executive (and his wife, who you appear to find a Marie Antoinette figure), I find it amazing that you can sit here and rack up 28,000 posts, day in and day out. Either you don't believe in your cause, in which case, I don't think we should take you seriously, or you don't believe in yourself, in which case, I don't think we should take you seriously. Either way, we shouldn't take you seriously.

You're stoopid. You don't understand my positions at all.....since you can't rely on two valued logic to understand them. That's what I mean by twisting what I say to suit some anatagonism. All you have is personal commentary, snark and passive aggressive statements these days. Typical Marxist.

I could care less if you or "we" take me seriously either. Some don't take you seriously either. So quit projecting. I get my share of pos rep daily still.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 11:07 AM
Lets play pretend like Michelle gives two ****s about kids.

42 vaccine schedule.
Processed foods.
HFCS in every friggen thing sponsored by our government.
Monsanto
Don't even get me started on meat.

It's the new America. No wonder out kids are so ****ed up.

:thumb:

They've wrecked education, markets, finances and are working our health?

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 11:08 AM
Yeah, because posting here means I don't exercise. Idiot.

It was a joke tough guy!

Jenson71
09-14-2010, 11:09 AM
You're stoopid. You don't understand my positions at all.....since you can't rely on two valued logic to understand them. That's what I mean by twisting what I say to suit some anatagonism. All you have is personal commentary, snark and passive aggressive statements these days. Typical Marxist.

I could care less if you or "we" take me seriously either. I know no one takes you seriously. I get my share of pos rep daily.

I'm not being passive aggressive. I'm being aggressive. You're a mouth (fingers). You have no brain, no guts, and no dignity to go with it.

I'm a Marxist, Obama is a Bolshevik, and all your defense for our country amounts to is sitting back typing on a key board regurgitating what Lew Rockwell's website feeds you.

Congrats on your daily pos rep, you big hero.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 11:10 AM
Huh?

Brock
09-14-2010, 11:10 AM
It was a joke tough guy!

Hey-oooooh!

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 11:10 AM
Hey-oooooh!

Oooooh-Hey!

chiefsnorth
09-14-2010, 11:13 AM
When you see a couple of idiots (like these two) locked in a duel, all you can do is hope they both win.

Jenson71
09-14-2010, 11:14 AM
Huh?

Read your daughter all the bullshit books you can buy from some third-rate scholar at Kaplan University (as per your legal right), but at the end of the day, her main example is a parent who just posts on a message board about supposed evils without doing anything serious about it, brainwashed, and lying about not being able to read other people's comments to her because she'd rather run away from any attack than face it head on.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 11:16 AM
When you see a couple of idiots (like these two) locked in a duel, all you can do is hope they both win.

With you joining in then it's now the 3 Stooges. You can be Moe.

Jenson71
09-14-2010, 11:24 AM
Huh?

I appreciate the rep, Buc. The one that says my free expression, my freedom of speech, by calling you out, is unlawful. You pathetic, cowardly, hypocrite. Call a lawyer.

Frazod
09-14-2010, 11:25 AM
I think the biggest problem is the endless barrage of marketing for shitty food products we are subjected to, but again, how do you combat that? Watching a football game, for example, you basically see ad for three things:

1. Crappy beer
2. Crappy food
3. Cars

Over and over and over.

Personal responsibility is the key, but how many of us are personally resposible? God knows I've had my issues. However.....

Since July I have sworn off fried foods, beer, most all dairy products, snacks of any kind, almost never eat out, grill almost nightly and eat smaller portions with healthy sides. During that time I have lost nearly 40 pounds, taken five inches off my waist, and saved a shitload of money. I've also found that I really don't miss the crap I was eating, and my body reacts very poorly on rare occasions that I eat something bad.

Sure wish I'd started ignoring all those ads a lot sooner.

Jenson71
09-14-2010, 11:26 AM
Since July I have sworn off fried foods, beer, most all dairy products, snacks of any kind, almost never eat out, grill almost nightly and eat smaller portions with healthy sides. During that time I have lost nearly 40 pounds, taken five inches off my waist, and saved a shitload of money. I've also found that I really don't miss the crap I was eating, and my body reacts very poorly on rare occasions that I eat something bad.


Well done, frazod. :toast:

Frazod
09-14-2010, 11:27 AM
Well done, frazod. :toast:

It's a work in process, believe me. I've still got a long way to go.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 11:36 AM
I eat like that anyway frazod because I'm vain. Plus I eat about 60% organic. But I allow myself some poison occasionally. So long as 85% of what I eat is good. It's all good. I think women watch more than men in general though.

HonestChieffan
09-14-2010, 11:50 AM
Jenson...calm down. Your melt downs are hard to watch.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 11:56 AM
Read your daughter all the bullshit books you can buy from some third-rate scholar at Kaplan University (as per your legal right), but at the end of the day, her main example is a parent who just posts on a message board about supposed evils without doing anything serious about it, brainwashed, and lying about not being able to read other people's comments to her because she'd rather run away from any attack than face it head on.

Oh pluhease! No one needs to have that kind of noise in their life by getting over involved in someone's flame bait and flame wars. It's neurotic and unhealthy. It has nothing to do with courage or running away. It's sick behavior. Let's face it, you started it ( here and elsewhere recently) and I didn't run away. I responded. It's just a waste of time and fruitless to deal in such emotions for a long time over and over. I choose my battles and I try to avoid cantankerous posters. Those who can't deal with a different opinion ( chiefsnorth included) without such antics are the one's who are running away because they can't confront that opinion let alone argue against it.

:deevee:

dirk digler
09-14-2010, 12:06 PM
She is chiding them them what to do. She represents officiality and power. If they ignored her or refused to take up her suggestions then what do you think she might do next, especially with a progressive husband who is president? It's very much implied just because of who she is.

She is not either. She asked for their help that's it.

Why would you like HCF? I distinctly remember when Taco John called out his racism (a charge that, coming from Taco John, I take seriously). He's a classless moron.

He seems like nice of enough guy who is brainwashed a little.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 12:45 PM
She is not either. She asked for their help that's it.
Okay, in this one instance. I still don't like someone in govt getting involved though. But there really is more to this picture than is revealed with just one article:

She has a Let's Move Campaign while at the same time her husband methods' of handling this issue consists of a set of Washington-issued mandates, government-corporate collusion, federal spending and worst of all—the use of government schools as food police. So she does have the govt within her reach to implement her agenda.

Here's a list of some of these initiatives already in-progress:

• Healthy Food Financing Initiative
This is designed to eliminate “food deserts” as defined on her “Let’s Move!” website because “low-income urban and rural neighborhoods that are more than a mile from a supermarket.”

The website says this is “a partnership between the U.S. Departments of Treasury, Agriculture, and Health and Human Services to invest $400 million a year to provide innovative financing to develop healthy food retailers to underserved areas and help places such as convenience stores and bodegas carry healthier food options.”

Using our tax dollars to socially engineer food habits of a certain income group.

•Pennsylvania Fresh Food Initiative, a Keystone State program that combines public and private funding to provide grants and low-cost loans to grocers that operate in low-income areas, as an example of what the federal program should look like. A Federal Food program?

There are more than a few studies that show this type of initiative does nto lead to lower obesity rates. Americans just eat too much and huge servings.

Environmental Health Perspectives, Planning Healthy Towns and Cities, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill,Institute of Medicine wrote about the results of such programs which didn't change anything. Basically people just ate another serving of fruit. A calorie is still a calorie in terms of weight.

There's more on this too. This is nothing but a feel good program that will not deliver while it wastes other peoples money. Obama and Michelle are cut from the same ideological cloth—they into central planning our lives.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 12:51 PM
Michelle's means is more regulations too:

“things like improving front-of-package labeling so that parents don’t have to squint and figure out big, unusual words to determine whether something is healthy or not.”~ Michelle

Meanwhile Food and Drug Administration under the Obama regime is working on “agreements” with food producers to change their front-of-package labeling. So she seems to be asking for agreements aka cooperation but those companies really have to do it to stave off harsher regulations with real penalties attached. She still represents the govt. The FDA has already sent out warning letters to 17 manufacturers of food with 15 days saying how they have corrected. Commissioner of Food and Drugs Margaret Hamburg had already warned companies previously to get with the program or face penalties.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 12:56 PM
Healthy particularly organic food is more expensive. Moms work and don't have much time. Most people don't have chefs and servants.

These chefs tout locally grown, environmentally friendly and — most importantly — nutritious food. They urge diners, even those who may never be able to afford to eat at their restaurants, to grow their own vegetables, shop at farmer’s markets and pay attention to where their food comes from.

…Barber said good food needs more publicity, and he hopes Obama and his wife will advertise what they are eating and what they are feeding their children, 10-year-old Malia and 7-year-old Sasha.

Is there anything more arrogant or clueless than bragging about how the Obamas “eat”?
Second, Michelle Obama, the wife of a powerful man of the establishment, has been catered to and has had maids, chefs, servants, and the like, in order to take care of her family’s food needs. Mrs. Obama doesn’t come home from 50-hour work weeks trying to tend to her kids, feed them, and take care of everything around the house.

So, once again, these politically-enabled and wealthy elites, who are spoiled with servants taking care of their every need, are held up as examples to all the folks who lead real lives, work real jobs, and embrace real problems with no staff of problem solvers to do it for them.

Remember when Obama said that one of the great evils in this country is that people “eat too much food”? This is a guy who regularly sits down to $500/plate meals in the best restaurants, has the best food, the best chefs, an entire staff to serve his family food, and daily deliveries of fresh food right to his door, yet he thinks that the “rest of the world” shouldn’t put up with the eating habits of greedy Americans.

As far as the food that is “over-processed, over-subsidized and grown with no regard to the environment,” you can thank decades of special interest-driven US government policies for that. Read the Gary Taubes book, Good Calories, Bad Calories, for just a portion of that information.- Karen DeCoster

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/24975.html- I edited it.

dirk digler
09-14-2010, 12:57 PM
Okay, in this one instance. I still don't like someone in govt getting involved though. But there really is more to this picture than is revealed with just one article:

She has a Let's Move Campaign while at the same time her husband methods' of handling this issue consists of a set of Washington-issued mandates, government-corporate collusion, federal spending and worst of all—the use of government schools as food police. So she does have the govt within her reach to implement her agenda.

Here's a list of some of these initiatives already in-progress:

• Healthy Food Financing Initiative
This is designed to eliminate “food deserts” as defined on her “Let’s Move!” website because “low-income urban and rural neighborhoods that are more than a mile from a supermarket.”

The website says this is “a partnership between the U.S. Departments of Treasury, Agriculture, and Health and Human Services to invest $400 million a year to provide innovative financing to develop healthy food retailers to underserved areas and help places such as convenience stores and bodegas carry healthier food options.”

Using our tax dollars to socially engineer food habits of a certain income group.

•Pennsylvania Fresh Food Initiative, a Keystone State program that combines public and private funding to provide grants and low-cost loans to grocers that operate in low-income areas, as an example of what the federal program should look like. A Federal Food program?

There are more than a few studies that show this type of initiative does nto lead to lower obesity rates. Americans just eat too much and huge servings.

Environmental Health Perspectives, Planning Healthy Towns and Cities, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill,Institute of Medicine wrote about the results of such programs which didn't change anything. Basically people just ate another serving of fruit. A calorie is still a calorie in terms of weight.

There's more on this too. This is nothing but a feel good program that will not deliver while it wastes other peoples money. Obama and Michelle are cut from the same ideological cloth—they into central planning our lives.

I see zero difference in what she is doing and what Nancy Reagan did with Just Say No.

Do you have a problem with Just Say No?

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 12:59 PM
I see zero difference in what she is doing and what Nancy Reagan did with Just Say No.

Do you have a problem with Just Say No?

I realize that was coming up. Was Just Say No using taxpayer money? If so, yes.
However, I read that one did get some results. According to those studies there weren't any results with the food policing programs.
Ya' know what else, telling people to just say no means less funding for needles and govt addiction programs which also shouldn't be. That became a public problem.
Please don't tell me being fat is a public problem. It will be once govt gets the HC bill through though. Plan on more controls.
Getting into food the way the Obama's are is expanding more govt and taking more money from us to do it.

dirk digler
09-14-2010, 01:04 PM
I realize that was coming up. Was Just Say No using taxpayer money? If so, yes.
However, I read that one did get some results. According to those studies there weren't any results.
Ya' know what else, telling people to just say no means less funding for needles and govt addiction programs which also shouldn't be.
Getting into food the way the Obama's are is expanding more govt and taking more money from us to do it.

Of course it was used with government money. Obesity is killing people left and right and I think it is a good cause to get people with the industries help to eat better. It will help lower health care costs in the long run if people started eating better don't you agree?

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 01:09 PM
Of course it was used with government money.
Link.

Now I thought your point was she was just talking as in making a suggestion. Are we going off point here?

Obesity is killing people left and right and I think it is a good cause to get people with the industries help to eat better. It will help lower health care costs in the long run if people started eating better don't you agree?

I thought you said that govt usually messes these things up? Govt is a ham-fisted way to fix this and no one's money should go to handle someone else's diet. More regulations on industry is not good for an economy.

Here, you just made another collectivist argument: it will lower health care costs. Not if each pays their own way....that will lower HC costs too because it incentivizes people to keep their bill down by taking care of themselves. This is what I meant about more and more private areas in our lives are being put under more govt control....now it's to lower health costs.

But based on those studies I cited it has not shown it will do that. People just wound up eating more. Plus healthy food is more expensive and everyone's going broke under the Obamas. It's not going to work. American's like to eat large portions. You can eat too much healthy food and gain weight too. Michelle doesn't show it's worked her either. ( I think her frame is genetic though.)

Show me the numbers on better health after all this money is spent. Like most govt promises....I doubt it will do what is claimed and more will be spent in the end.

dirk digler
09-14-2010, 01:20 PM
Link.

Now I thought your point was she was just talking as in making a suggestion. Are we going off point here?



I thought you said that govt usually messes these things up? Govt is a ham-fisted way to fix this and no one's money should go to handle someone else's diet. More regulations on industry is not good for an economy.

Here, you just made another collectivist argument: it will lower health care costs. Not if each pays their own way....that will lower HC costs too because it incentivizes people to keep their bill down by taking care of themselves. This is what I meant about more and more private areas in our lives are being put under more govt control....now it's to lower health costs.

But based on those studies I cited it has not show it will do that. People just wound up eating more. Plus healthy food is more expensive and everyone's going broke under the Obamas. It's not going to work. American's like to eat large portions. You can eat too much healthy food and gain weight too. Michelle doesn't show it's worked her either. ( I think her frame is genetic though.)

Show me the numbers on better health after all this money is spent. Like most govt promises....I doubt it will do what is claimed and more will be spent in the end.

Wikipedia. It was an advertising campaign run by the NIH. There were commericals and ads everywhere. I know you know this since you are old.

It is just common sense that eating better and living a healthier lifestyle will lower health care costs because people won't be going to the ER or doctors as much for heart disease, diabetes and other related illnesses.

vailpass
09-14-2010, 01:26 PM
Wikipedia. It was an advertising campaign run by the NIH. There were commericals and ads everywhere. I know you know this since you are old.

It is just common sense that eating better and living a healthier lifestyle will lower health care costs because people won't be going to the ER or doctors as much for heart disease, diabetes and other related illnesses.

What if healthier people are more prone to engage in high-risk behaviors which statistically result in the need for medical treatment and/or hospitalization?

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 01:26 PM
Just based on wikipedia as a start her words did not start as a govt program.
Her campaign emerged from a previous drug campaign already started in the 1970's. Later this program she operated off of was criticized as too costly but no numbers are offered for it here. Still, it was already started in the 1970's.

The phrase "Just Say No" first emerged when Nancy Reagan was visiting Longfellow Elementary School in Oakland, California,[3] in 1982 and was asked by a schoolgirl what to do if she was offered drugs. The first lady responded by saying, "Just say no."[4] "Just Say No" club organizations within schools and school-run anti-drug programs soon became common, in which young people make pacts not to experiment with drugs.[5]

Pitt Gorilla
09-14-2010, 01:33 PM
I honestly don't remember, but did the left go after Laura's looks as much as the right goes after Michelle? Although both are nice-looking ladies, I can't imagine people referring so much to their looks either way. What's the deal?

dirk digler
09-14-2010, 01:34 PM
What if healthier people are more prone to engage in high-risk behaviors which statistically result in the need for medical treatment and/or hospitalization?

I think the numbers would be very small for such activites compared to people with heart disease and diabetes.

I take it you mean like rock climbing, sky diving etc etc?

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 02:08 PM
I honestly don't remember, but did the left go after Laura's looks as much as the right goes after Michelle? Although both are nice-looking ladies, I can't imagine people referring so much to their looks either way. What's the deal?

I don't remember the left going that far.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 02:22 PM
BTW just how legitimate is food advice from our govt anyway? These things are subject to political pressure including lobbying....like the grain and dairy industry on the food pyramid which I don't agree with.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 02:30 PM
I think the numbers would be very small for such activites compared to people with heart disease and diabetes.

I take it you mean like rock climbing, sky diving etc etc?

Did you know in English schools the govt officials are prodding parents on what they put in kid's lunches in order to cut HC costs too. In May a kid in Texas was put in detention because he had a piece of candy in his lunch box. Kids BMI's have to be reported as well as our own per the govt.
Obama Care has already established national obesity standards complete with behavior-modification programs delivered by bureaucrats and home visitations for individuals and families who fail to live up to these standards.
Some of the standards in Michelle's program are intrusive right down to having the teachers eat lunch with kids to supervise their diets.

Nice! You have your Brave New World dirk. Yet we fight for "freedom" in the ME. Uh huh!

blaise
09-14-2010, 02:33 PM
I honestly don't remember, but did the left go after Laura's looks as much as the right goes after Michelle? Although both are nice-looking ladies, I can't imagine people referring so much to their looks either way. What's the deal?

I don't know about Laura, but Barbara for sure.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2010, 02:55 PM
Wikipedia. It was an advertising campaign run by the NIH. There were commericals and ads everywhere. I know you know this since you are old.
I know very little about it actually. I remember seeing it and hearing it on tv but not how it's funded or how it developed. That's why I asked about it and googled it.

It is just common sense that eating better and living a healthier lifestyle will lower health care costs because people won't be going to the ER or doctors as much for heart disease, diabetes and other related illnesses.
Who here disagreed with that? Once again, there's no discernment from anyone in your camp that my argument is that this is not the govt's business and there is no authority for them to be involved in this. It's also being done by picking the pockets of hard working Americans who are living on less and less.

Brock
09-14-2010, 04:50 PM
I honestly don't remember, but did the left go after Laura's looks as much as the right goes after Michelle? Although both are nice-looking ladies, I can't imagine people referring so much to their looks either way. What's the deal?

No, they just called her a drunk driving murderer.

vailpass
09-14-2010, 05:26 PM
I think the numbers would be very small for such activites compared to people with heart disease and diabetes.

I take it you mean like rock climbing, sky diving etc etc?

I really didn't research it enough to even call it a hyposthesis so I'm sorry, I don't have an anwer to your fair question.

mlyonsd
09-15-2010, 01:34 PM
BTW just how legitimate is food advice from our govt anyway? These things are subject to political pressure including lobbying....like the grain and dairy industry on the food pyramid which I don't agree with.

In the local school system carrots are only allowed to be served once a week because they are considered too starchy by Federal guidelines.

Carrots are bad......too funny.

BucEyedPea
09-15-2010, 03:31 PM
In the local school system carrots are only allowed to be served once a week because they are considered too starchy by Federal guidelines.

Carrots are bad......too funny.

What would a French chef say to THAT! That's pretty funny....ROFL though kids need some carbs. Those are good carbs.

petegz28
09-15-2010, 03:32 PM
Yeah, make the food taste like shit so people quit coming to your resteraunt!!!!

petegz28
09-15-2010, 03:38 PM
Have you looked at how fat kids are these days? It's abundantly clear that most parents are unwilling to feed their kids a nutritious diet to maintain proper body weight.

Child obesity is a major problem for this country and it is only getting worse.

FYP

BucEyedPea
09-15-2010, 03:39 PM
Yeah, make the food taste like shit so people quit coming to your resteraunt!!!!

Healthy food can taste good! But I think they'd be better off having a Celebrity Black Chef TV program so they can learn to not cook soul food in so much lard. :D Michelle could appear with the kids lapping it up as to how good it can still taste.

petegz28
09-15-2010, 03:40 PM
Actions speak louder than words buddy. Like I said - look around. There are obese children everywhere. Of course parents have the ability to force their kids to eat well and play outside, but the huge majority of them don't.

And that is a resteraunt's problem why?

petegz28
09-15-2010, 03:42 PM
Healthy food can taste good! But I think they'd be better off having a Celebrity Black Chef TV program so they can learn to not cook soul food in so much lard. :D Michelle could appear with the kids lapping it up as to how good it can still taste.

The problem is getting most healthy food to taste good and stay healthy can run up the costs. That being said, there is nothing wrong with what we eat but how much of it we eat.

If a child or adult for that matter, ate proper sized portions of a balanced meal and exercised then it matters little if the flour is white or not.

You can't shove a pizza down your throat and wash it down with a 2-litre of coke and then go play video games all day and say the food is unhealthy.

BucEyedPea
09-15-2010, 03:49 PM
The problem is getting most healthy food to taste good and stay healthy can run up the costs.
I understand that you in the MidWest and their cooking would lead you to think that. Either that or your taste buds are dead from too much processed food and don't like the healthy stuff. Or your tastebuds are dead from both processed food used in MW cooking. That's gotta be the worst-case scenario. I assure, I think the healthy stuff tastes better but then I am so used to it now it would be hard for me to go back. It wasn't easy. One of the hardest things to do is change one's eating habits. It's harder than changing political stands or parties.

That being said, there is nothing wrong with what we eat but how much of it we eat.
Whose "we?" From what I see in carts I'd have to disagree with you here. From having former in-laws in the MidWest, Iowa, Illinois and Missouri—I'd have to say, I could not wait to get back East. No flavor, no excitement....just plain meat and taters!

If a child or adult for that matter, ate proper sized portions of a balanced meal and exercised then it matters little if the flour is white or not.
Disagree and I know nutrition. Doctors have written books about how white flour products, a bad carb, leads to heart disease not fat so much. It changes into sugar rapidly. Their's healthy carbs and healthy fats. Our food is depleted. Then again this isn't a nutrition thread.

You can't shove a pizza down your throat and wash it down with a 2-litre of coke and then go play video games all day and say the food is unhealthy.
Well the food is still unhealthy but not using the body isn't healthy either. It's not one or the other. It's both.

petegz28
09-15-2010, 03:49 PM
Yep I don't see anything wrong with what she said at all. She asked for their help not telling them what to do.

And hcf I like you but what is up with calling the First Lady a Wookie?

Horseshit. Resteruants will sell what their customers want. We don't need First Wookie asking resteraunts to play the parenting role. That's not their job. That's not her job.

It is not anyone's fault, save a medical condition, that they are overweight but their own. We learn at the K-2 level "you are what you eat".

And I will give you an example of how fucked up schools are getting with this shit. My friends have just put their daughter in K. She gets healthy snacks, fair enough. But only 1 recess and no nap. And that is not just the K level, the entire school there only allows 1 recess. You can feed kids healthy snacks all you want but if you have them sitting on their ass all day it isn't going to help like you think.

Bodies need exercise. I know people who eat like total shit but are in great shape cause they exercise. Calories are calories, whether they are healthy calories or not. If you are not burning calories you are going to be overweight. It's that simple.

petegz28
09-15-2010, 03:50 PM
I understand that you in the MidWest and their cooking would lead you to think that. Either that or your taste buds are dead from too much processed food and don't like the healthy stuff. I assure, I think the healthy stuff tastes better but then I am so used to it now it would be hard for me to go back. It wasn't easy. One of the hardest things to do is change one's eating habits. It's harder than changing political stands or parties.


Whose "we?" From what I see in carts I'd have to disagree with you here. From having former in-laws in the MidWest, Iowa, Illinois and Missouri—I'd have to say, I could not wait to get back East. No flavor, no excitement....just plain meat and taters!


Disagree and I know nutrition. Doctors have written books about hoa white flour products, a bad carb, leads to heart disease not fat so much. Theirs healthy carbs and healthy fats. Our food is depleted. Then again this isn't a nutrition thread.


Well the food is still unhealthy but not using the body isn't healthy either. It's not one or the other. It's both.

I'd favor exercise over healthy food as far as benefit goes. Calories are calories. Good or bad, if you don't burn them off they will add up.

BucEyedPea
09-15-2010, 03:54 PM
I'd favor exercise over healthy food as far as benefit goes. Calories are calories. Good or bad, if you don't burn them off they will add up.

Calories are calories in terms of units of energy but people have different metabolisms. Plus some fat and whole grains take longer to digest curbing hunger so you don't eat as much. They also provide nutrients so the body is fed nutritionally other wise the calories are empty which leads to a less efficient body system and cravings. There are other disorders besides just obesity that people have from modern diets like increasing diabetes and allergies in both kids and adults. Americans eat the most processed food in the world and has more health problems that stem from that.

BucEyedPea
09-15-2010, 04:01 PM
pete what you need is a good meal to experience.

vailpass
09-15-2010, 04:02 PM
I honestly don't remember, but did the left go after Laura's looks as much as the right goes after Michelle? Although both are nice-looking ladies, I can't imagine people referring so much to their looks either way. What's the deal?

:eek: Laura Bush is a handsome woman. The First Sasquatch is so hairy-backed fat-assed bug-eyed buffugly Cinton wouldn't **** her.

petegz28
09-15-2010, 04:04 PM
Calories are calories in terms of units of energy but people have different metabolisms. Plus some fat and whole grains take longer to digest curbing hunger so you don't eat as much. They also provide nutrients so the body is fed nutritionally other wise the calories are empty which leads to a less efficient body system and cravings. There are other disorders besides just obesity that people have from modern diets like increasing diabetes and allergies in both kids and adults. Americans eat the most processed food in the world and has more health problems that stem from that.

I am not going to argue that processed foods are less than good. What I am saying is eating healthy is not the cure all answer. You have to exercise. There is a ton of natural sugar in fruits. So the point is you can eat all the apples you want, if you don't get off your ass and exercise you are going to be fat. And if you eat junk but exercise you are going to reduce your chances of diabetes because you are not going to be over-weight. Not to say you should eat junk and exercise as a fix. Exercise strenghtens more than just your muscles. It gets your entire system flowing and problably most importantly your lymphatic system which is where all the crap in your body ends up. And if you aren't moving you are not getting that crap out of your lymphatic system no matter how healthy you are eating.

Why is rebounding so beneficial? Rebounding on a mini-trampoline affects every organ and is directly related to the efficiency of the lymphatic system and the immune function. The lymphatic system is a defense mechanism against infection, viruses, bacteria and disease. It is comprised of fluid, vessels and ducts. Provided the lymphatic system is functioning at its peak, tt clears toxins we absorb from our environment, wastes and infection from all tissues of the body through proper flow and drainage. Bouncing on a mini-trampoline offers many benefits to one's lymphatic system and overall health. Let's examine those.

Mention the cardiovascular system and most people have a pretty good idea of what it is and how it functions. But although the lymphatic system is vitally important to our health, most people don’t understand it or even know what it is

The lymphatic system collects toxins in the body
Similarly, the lymphatic system is also connected to every organ in the body, but its function is completely different from that of the cardiovascular system. The lymphatic system is the "garbage collector", sucking up metabolic garbage, and toxins from the extracellular fluid of every organ. If this flow is impaired, the fluid becomes thick and toxic.

Moving your lymph to help detoxify the body
The lymphatic system is not connected to the heart, therefore it has to rely on some other activity to create the necessary "pumping action" it needs to circulate. The most important ways of increasing lymphatic circulation are:

1) massage and

2) vigorous exercise



The lymphatic system is filled with millions of one-way valves, which allows the lymph fluid to flow in only one directrion - usually upward away from gravity.

Almost anything which can stimulate the movement of lymph fluid inside the lymph vessels is beneficial, but the most efficient way to stimulate the flow of lymph fluid is by REBOUNDING on a mini-trampoline. The up and down rhythmic bouncing causes all of the one-way valves to open and close simultaneously, increasing lymph flow as much as 15 times. Rebounding is a highly beneficial form of exercise.

Let's talk about the eliminative organs, such as the bowels, kidneys, lungs, lymph system, or skin, for example. When a foreign substance is present, the body’s first reflex is to expel or eliminate it. When this elimination is suppressed by any means such as taking pharmaceutical drugs, for example, some of the foreign matter gets pushed back into the system. As elimination is blocked, the very substances the body is trying to eliminate become stored within the body, causing any number of disease symptoms. the body then becomes toxic. When this happens, the degenerative disease process begins.

Symptoms of a congested lymphatic system
Many people have badly congested lymphatics and don’t even know it. At this time in our country the lymphatic system is the most over-looked system of the human body. In Europe stimulation of the lymph flow is the fourth most commonly prescribed medical treatment. Most U. S. healthcare practitioners seldom consider the lymphatic system’s critical role in preventing illness or its importance to the over all healing process. Some of the organs that are part of the lymphatic system are lymph nodes and lymph veins, the tonsils, adenoids, appendix and the spleen and you know what happens to those parts of the body whenever surgeons get close to them. Swollen glands, with which most of us are familiar, are symptomatic of blocked lymph nodes, which indicate a breakdown in the mechanical functioning of the lymphatic system. Other examples of congested lymphatics are:

Allergies
Prostatitis
Chronic Sinusitis
Heart disease
Eczema and other skin conditions
Loss of Energy
Fibrocystic disease
Chronic fatigue
Repetitive parasitic infections
Multiple Sclerosis
Edema
Lupus
Inflammation
High blood pressure
Viral infections
Bacterial infections
Low back pain
Loss of Energy
Cancer
Arthritis
Headaches
Excessive sweating
Obesity


http://www.healingdaily.com/exercise/effects-of-rebounding-on-the-lymphatic-system.htm

petegz28
09-15-2010, 04:05 PM
pete what you need is a good meal to experience.

I know what a good meal is and it is healthy.

Good piece of grilled chicken
Some taters
Green Beens or Peas
Salad


Yummy and healthy

InChiefsHell
09-15-2010, 04:16 PM
I know what a good meal is and it is healthy.

Good piece of grilled chicken
Some taters
Green Beens or Peas
Salad


Yummy and healthy

Is it FREE RANGE chicken???? is it??? Cuz if not, it's gonna fucking kill you deader than dead!!!!!

orange
09-15-2010, 04:18 PM
Is it FREE RANGE chicken???? is it??? Cuz if not, it's gonna ****ing kill you deader than dead!!!!!

In 80 or 90 years, tops!

BucEyedPea
09-15-2010, 05:19 PM
I am not going to argue that processed foods are less than good. What I am saying is eating healthy is not the cure all answer. You have to exercise. There is a ton of natural sugar in fruits. So the point is you can eat all the apples you want, if you don't get off your ass and exercise you are going to be fat. And if you eat junk but exercise you are going to reduce your chances of diabetes because you are not going to be over-weight. Not to say you should eat junk and exercise as a fix. Exercise strenghtens more than just your muscles. It gets your entire system flowing and problably most importantly your lymphatic system which is where all the crap in your body ends up. And if you aren't moving you are not getting that crap out of your lymphatic system no matter how healthy you are eating.

I think rebounding is great!

BucEyedPea
09-15-2010, 05:23 PM
I know what a good meal is and it is healthy.

Good piece of grilled chicken
Some taters
Green Beens or Peas
Salad


Yummy and healthy

Good Gawd! That is sooooo MidWest with the taters and green beans which are light weights in nutrients compared to dark green leafy vegetables which you are supposed to have daily. Then a deep yellow every other day. Some raw some cooked. Those are rich in anti-oxidants and prevent degenerative disease which are the diseases of modern life. They're nutrition related. Those also help prevent cancer too.

I hope the lettuce in that salad was actually green and not iceberg which is just water with a crunch! Toss in some arugula or watercress or change it to romaine.

BTW I disagree with Michelle that omitting cream is a good thing. It has benefits too. French cooking can handle that easily though.

BucEyedPea
09-15-2010, 05:29 PM
Oh and pete, what I meant by a good meal was not just healthy but delicious. Like beef bourgignone with a serving of mashed potatoes with the skins boiled in organic milk. With a dark green salad. Ymmmm....lots a flavor and lots of nutrition. The red wine is so good for you.

petegz28
09-15-2010, 07:01 PM
Oh and pete, what I meant by a good meal was not just healthy but delicious. Like beef bourgignone with a serving of mashed potatoes with the skins boiled in organic milk. With a dark green salad. Ymmmm....lots a flavor and lots of nutrition. The red wine is so good for you.

A) You just slammed me for talking about meat an taters yet you throw out meat and taters

B) I always eat leafy greens in my salad. Usually a spring mix

C) I use nothing but organic milk

D) I drink lots of Pinot Noir

E) I live in the midwest

Bwana
09-15-2010, 07:07 PM
I think she is just obsessed with food.

Judging from the way she looks, I would say you are right. What's next, a Jenny Craig commercial?

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2009/06/obama-bonpoint/michelle-obama-bonpoint-05.jpg

BucEyedPea
09-15-2010, 07:07 PM
A) You just slammed me for talking about meat an taters yet you throw out meat and taters
Relax! I was teasing in a facetious manner. :)

B) I always eat leafy greens in my salad. Usually a spring mix

C) I use nothing but organic milk

D) I drink lots of Pinot Noir

E) I live in the midwest

Color me shocked.;) Pinot Noir—excellent choice.

Velvet_Jones
09-15-2010, 07:52 PM
http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2009/06/obama-bonpoint/michelle-obama-bonpoint-05.jpg

I bet when she runs her butt looks like two wolverines fightin' in a gunny sack.

Or maybe, two suckling pigs fightin' over a Milk Dud.

Or maybe, just look like it has hail damage.

go bowe
09-15-2010, 08:19 PM
With you joining in then it's now the 3 Stooges. You can be Moe.don't forget me pea brain...

i make 4...

go bowe
09-15-2010, 08:27 PM
:eek: Laura Bush is a handsome woman. The First Sasquatch is so hairy-backed fat-assed bug-eyed buffugly Cinton wouldn't **** her.i think you underestimate hillary...

Cave Johnson
09-15-2010, 10:38 PM
Let's see your supermodel of a so, HCF....

vailpass
09-16-2010, 11:26 AM
i think you underestimate hillary...

:D

RaiderH8r
09-16-2010, 02:26 PM
I bet when she runs her butt looks like two wolverines fightin' in a gunny sack.

Or maybe, two suckling pigs fightin' over a Milk Dud.

Or maybe, just look like it has hail damage.

I bet her ass looks like 250 lbs of chewed bubble gum.

Cave Johnson
09-16-2010, 02:36 PM
Let's see your supermodel of a so, HCF....

/crickets.

ChiefaRoo
09-18-2010, 03:13 PM
I think the biggest problem is the endless barrage of marketing for shitty food products we are subjected to, but again, how do you combat that? Watching a football game, for example, you basically see ad for three things:

1. Crappy beer
2. Crappy food
3. Cars

Over and over and over.

Personal responsibility is the key, but how many of us are personally resposible? God knows I've had my issues. However.....

Since July I have sworn off fried foods, beer, most all dairy products, snacks of any kind, almost never eat out, grill almost nightly and eat smaller portions with healthy sides. During that time I have lost nearly 40 pounds, taken five inches off my waist, and saved a shitload of money. I've also found that I really don't miss the crap I was eating, and my body reacts very poorly on rare occasions that I eat something bad.

Sure wish I'd started ignoring all those ads a lot sooner.

Don't forget #4 - Boner Pills.

The Mad Crapper
09-18-2010, 03:16 PM
Remember the magic of Hopey Change, before everyone figured out that Barack Obama is a no-account moonbat who had it all handed to him on a platter as a reward for his parentage?

Baby Lee
09-18-2010, 03:25 PM
I understand that you in the MidWest and their cooking would lead you to think that. Either that or your taste buds are dead from too much processed food and don't like the healthy stuff. Or your tastebuds are dead from both processed food used in MW cooking. That's gotta be the worst-case scenario. I assure, I think the healthy stuff tastes better but then I am so used to it now it would be hard for me to go back. It wasn't easy. One of the hardest things to do is change one's eating habits. It's harder than changing political stands or parties.

Why on earth would you respond to a critique of the COST of healthy foods with a rant on the supposed unrefined TASTES of mere midwesterners?

Healthy indeed often tastes better, but beyond the higher costs of a lot of healthy options is the shelf life of healthy items meaning 1/2 of something that is already more expensive being thrown away.

I'd love the ability to buy healthy breads without preservatives and HFCS in little 4-6 slice portions, as that's all I can consume in the amount of time before it goes moldy, unless I devote myself to a sandwich intensive diet for the next few days.

For me, the most economical choice is to buy things that aren't necessarily that good for me [canned, frozen, rice and grains], but have a long shelf life, and eat very small portions. Otherwise I am gorging myself on 'healthy' food to get it out of the house before I have to throw it away, or buy premade or individual portions that cost as much as bulk.

BucEyedPea
09-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Why on earth would you respond to a critique of the COST of healthy foods with a rant on the supposed unrefined TASTES of mere midwesterners?
Because I was being facetious. Ya' know ribbing you guys. Geezaz! Lighten up!
Sorry there is no tone of voice on the net.

BucEyedPea
09-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Don't forget #4 - Boner Pills.

I even get those in my email all the time. Geesh!

Chiefshrink
09-18-2010, 05:25 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Michelle-Obama-270x197.jpg

The picture of condescension...

"My sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure "DONT STINK" but "YOURS REALLY DOES" so get that "F'N Oreo" out yo mouth."!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Pitt Gorilla
09-18-2010, 06:11 PM
:eek: Laura Bush is a handsome woman. The First Sasquatch is so hairy-backed fat-assed bug-eyed buffugly Cinton wouldn't **** her.How could you possibly think Laura is fine but Michelle is that unattractive? I understand partisanship, but this is a bit extreme.

Chiefshrink
09-18-2010, 06:15 PM
Everytime I see Michelle it looks like she has a "pinch" in her bottom lip.

Chiefshrink
09-18-2010, 06:18 PM
Why on earth would you respond to a critique of the COST of healthy foods with a rant on the supposed unrefined TASTES of mere midwesterners?

Healthy indeed often tastes better, but beyond the higher costs of a lot of healthy options is the shelf life of healthy items meaning 1/2 of something that is already more expensive being thrown away.

I'd love the ability to buy healthy breads without preservatives and HFCS in little 4-6 slice portions, as that's all I can consume in the amount of time before it goes moldy, unless I devote myself to a sandwich intensive diet for the next few days.

For me, the most economical choice is to buy things that aren't necessarily that good for me [canned, frozen, rice and grains], but have a long shelf life, and eat very small portions. Otherwise I am gorging myself on 'healthy' food to get it out of the house before I have to throw it away, or buy premade or individual portions that cost as much as bulk.

Not only do I not want the Fed Govt telling me what I can and cannot eat but even more "glaring" is the hypocrisy exhibited by "Moochelle" with all the shit food she and "O" eat.

Norman Einstein
09-20-2010, 08:16 AM
You're stoopid. You don't understand my positions at all.....since you can't rely on two valued logic to understand them. That's what I mean by twisting what I say to suit some anatagonism. All you have is personal commentary, snark and passive aggressive statements these days. Typical Marxist.

I could care less if you or "we" take me seriously either. Some don't take you seriously either. So quit projecting. I get my share of pos rep daily still.

Jenson is a punk kid that thinks he knows how the world works, thinks he knows all about every aspect of religion, although not even subscribing to the tennents of his own chosen religion, and in general is a know it all jackass.

I wouldn't even argue with him, he is a useless piece of excrement.

go bowe
09-20-2010, 02:01 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/michelle-obama-tells-restaurants-less-butter-more-apples/

Her butt wouldn't look like a wookies if she would cut back on a few butter pats her own bad self.i'm sitting here with my headache and general feeling of shit from staying up too late and drinking too much...

and something just occurred to me that probably doesn't much matter in the scheme of things...

it seems like when gw was in office, the only people who said truly dreadful things about the first lady were rabidly partisan lwnj's...

most folks, including liberals, demonstrated much greater respect for the office and the person...

it makes me wonder why i see so many hateful things said about the first lady around here...

so little respect, so much hate...

are we really just rabidly partisan wingtard nutjobs?

i didn't think so, but wookie seems a little disrespectful since she is not responsible for obama's policies and actions and she represents the united states, as first lady...

might i suggest "bubble-butt"?

go bowe
09-20-2010, 02:05 PM
Remember the magic of Hopey Change, before everyone figured out that Barack Obama is a no-account moonbat who had it all handed to him on a platter as a reward for his parentage?i don't mean to be picky here, but aren't there quite a few people who have had similar parentage?

where's their reward?

go bowe
09-20-2010, 02:12 PM
You're stoopid.All you have is personal commentary, snark and passive aggressive statements these days. Typical Marxist.




omg...

pea brain is not a libertarian at all...

she's a marxist!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Radar Chief
09-20-2010, 02:43 PM
are we really just rabidly partisan wingtard nutjobs?


“We”? Are you French or you got a mouse in your pocket? ;)

Cave Johnson
09-20-2010, 03:02 PM
I've got a great thread idea. Let's post pics of our sig others and CP can rate whether they're more attractive than Michelle Obama.

I suggest HCF starts.

ClevelandBronco
09-20-2010, 03:05 PM
I've got a great thread idea. Let's post pics of our sig others and CP can rate whether they're more attractive than Michelle Obama.

I suggest HCF starts.

I suggest that your idea will be relevant when HCF's significant other starts lecturing us about what we eat like that fat ass wookie bitch in the White House.

The Mad Crapper
09-20-2010, 04:00 PM
i don't mean to be picky here, but aren't there quite a few people who have had similar parentage?

where's their reward?

They didn't lie there way into and through Occidental and Columbia, get an all expenses paid ticket through Harvard compliments of a Saudi, then ingratiate themselves into the Daley Machine in Chicago, sucking up to socialists like Alice Palmer--- then stabbing her in the back--- getting greasy financing from convicts like Tony Rezko, and kick starting a political career in Bill Ayers house.

go bowe
09-20-2010, 04:07 PM
“We”? Are you French or you got a mouse in your pocket? ;)i have large pockets, probably several mice...

go bowe
09-20-2010, 04:11 PM
They didn't lie there way into and through Occidental and Columbia, get an all expenses paid ticket through Harvard compliments of a Saudi, then ingratiate themselves into the Daley Machine in Chicago, sucking up to socialists like Alice Palmer--- then stabbing her in the back--- getting greasy financing from convicts like Tony Rezko, and kick starting a political career in Bill Ayers house.but you said reward for parentage...

does parentage include all the unsavory activities that you have enumerated?

i think not, not even in the mad crapper's world... :) :) :)

go bowe
09-20-2010, 04:12 PM
They didn't lie there way into and through Occidental and Columbia, get an all expenses paid ticket through Harvard compliments of a Saudi, then ingratiate themselves into the Daley Machine in Chicago, sucking up to socialists like Alice Palmer--- then stabbing her in the back--- getting greasy financing from convicts like Tony Rezko, and kick starting a political career in Bill Ayers house.are you sure that you didn't forget something?

ClevelandBronco
09-20-2010, 04:17 PM
are you sure that you didn't forget something?

Born in Arizona,
Moved to Babylonia.

The Mad Crapper
09-20-2010, 04:23 PM
are you sure that you didn't forget something?

Hmmm.... "parentage".....

I'm not sure what your point was but are you trying to suggest B.O. worked his way through the Daley Machine in Chicago--- and outsider from Hawaii or to use Sharpton's word an "interloper"--- and his race had nothing to do with it?

go bowe
09-20-2010, 08:16 PM
Hmmm.... "parentage".....

I'm not sure what your point was but are you trying to suggest B.O. worked his way through the Daley Machine in Chicago--- and outsider from Hawaii or to use Sharpton's word an "interloper"--- and his race had nothing to do with it?ok, now i'm getting confused...

the other post was about parentage, which you brought up as a basis for some kind of reward...

the did you forget something out of your litany of egregious aspects of the president's background referred to obama being a kenyan born muslim... you left that out...

are you slipping? :p :p :p

Velvet_Jones
09-21-2010, 08:24 PM
How could you possibly think Laura is fine but Michelle is that unattractive? I understand partisanship, but this is a bit extreme.

Because Laura knew when to keep her yapper shut and knew how to not disgrace our country, unlike the current First Wookie. I beginning to think she is as stupidly liberal as her stupid ass husband.

blaise
09-22-2010, 07:21 AM
i'm sitting here with my headache and general feeling of shit from staying up too late and drinking too much...

and something just occurred to me that probably doesn't much matter in the scheme of things...

it seems like when gw was in office, the only people who said truly dreadful things about the first lady were rabidly partisan lwnj's...

most folks, including liberals, demonstrated much greater respect for the office and the person...

it makes me wonder why i see so many hateful things said about the first lady around here...

so little respect, so much hate...

are we really just rabidly partisan wingtard nutjobs?

i didn't think so, but wookie seems a little disrespectful since she is not responsible for obama's policies and actions and she represents the united states, as first lady...

might i suggest "bubble-butt"?

She seems to get herself in front of cameras a bit more than Laura, so she has more people paying attention to her. This stuff isn't just right wingers doing this. Barbara Bush had people like Phil Hartman impersonating her on national TV.

Radar Chief
09-22-2010, 07:38 AM
might i suggest "bubble-butt"?

Wouldn't she need to have an ass to be called "bubble-butt"?
Seriously, Michelle is the leading under bite of the IBTC from the land of NoAssatall.

Cave Johnson
09-22-2010, 09:08 AM
Why would someone with a bully pulpit suggest calorie reduction? Because we're a nation of fatasses, which has a direct impact on our global competitiveness.

"in 2007, health-care spending for each obese adult was about 38 percent higher than spending for each normal weight adult."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/09/09/129746337/obesity

"George Washington University researchers added in things like employee sick days, lost productivity, even the need for extra gasoline — and found the annual cost of being obese is $4,879 for a woman and $2,646 for a man."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130008904&ft=1&f=

Cave Johnson
09-22-2010, 09:10 AM
I'm going to take it from the defensiveness/lack of confirmed skinny wives that the HCF, Cleveland, shitty, et. al. are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

F**k your fat asses increasing my healthcare costs. Go jog 5 miles and eat some cottage cheese.

ClevelandBronco
09-22-2010, 09:39 AM
I'm going to take it from the defensiveness/lack of confirmed skinny wives that the HCF, Cleveland, shitty, et. al. are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

F**k your fat asses increasing my healthcare costs. Go jog 5 miles and eat some cottage cheese.

I will not under any circumstances short of child abduction post photos or names of my family members on this board.

I'm sure that you as well as any convicted sexual predator can understand why.

The Mad Crapper
09-23-2010, 07:54 AM
[QUOTE=go bowe;7023213]ok, now i'm getting confused...

the other post was about parentage, which you brought up as a basis for some kind of reward...



Some people use their race as a ticket for special priviliges and career advancement, people like Obama.

Then there are some people who have too much dignity and refuse to be pandered to by white liberals. They do it on merit--- just like everybody else.

Or are you going to make an argument that Emil Jones has mentored white politicians in Cook County?