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Frankie
09-25-2010, 07:55 PM
Former Air Force Officers: UFOs Tampered With Nuclear Missiles
Updated: 31 minutes ago

Lee Speigel Contributor

AOL News (Sept. 25) -- Former U.S. Air Force officers and a former enlisted man are about to break many years of silence about an alarming series of UFO encounters at nuclear weapons sites -- incidents officially kept secret for decades.

When the group appears at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on Monday, it will offer testimony about events so chilling, it will seem like a day at a science fiction movie festival.

To put you in the mood for the stories that will soon unfold, we're presenting one here, involving former Air Force Capt. Robert Salas, one of the hosts of the Washington event.


Courtesy of Robert Salas
Former Air Force Capt. Robert Salas says he was involved in a 1967 incident at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana in which a UFO reportedly tampered with nuclear missiles.
Salas, co-author of "Faded Giant" (BookSurge Publishing), was a first lieutenant in 1967, serving as a missile-launch officer while stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana.

On March 16, 1967, Salas was 60 feet below ground working a 24-hour shift monitoring a launch-control center outfitted with 10 nuclear Minuteman missiles.

"I got a call from the topside guard, telling me they were watching some strange lights flying around in the sky, making odd maneuvers. They didn't think they were airplanes because they were going very fast, turning on a dime and not making a bit of noise," Salas told AOL News.

"A few minutes later, he called back, this time screaming into the phone, scared to death, and he said, 'Sir, I'm looking out my front window and there is a glowing red oval-shaped object hovering right above the front gate, and I've got all the guards out here with their weapons drawn.' "

The guard told Salas the UFO was approximately 30 to 40 feet in diameter with a very bright, pulsating light.

When the guard asked what they should do next, Salas' immediate response was that they had to do whatever was necessary to protect the nuclear missile area, "so basically, I was giving them permission to use whatever force they needed to use to keep anything out."

As Salas started to inform his duty partner and commander about what was going on 60 feet above them, something chilling happened.

"All of a sudden, we started getting bells and whistles going off. As we looked at the display board in front of us, sure enough, the missiles began going into an unlaunchable, or no-go, mode. They couldn't be launched -- it went from green to red.

"We also had a couple of security violations, meaning there were lights indicating some kind of intrusion at the missile sites, where the missiles were actually located, about a mile or two away from the launch control facility."

Salas said they immediately performed a system checklist to see what was wrong and to determine how it was possible that 10 nuclear missiles could suddenly be deactivated.

"We were getting mostly guidance and control systems failure, and when I called the guard again, he told me the UFO just left and took off at high speed. So I ordered the guards to go out to the missile sites, and while they were out there, they saw the object again at one of the launch facilities.

"It scared them to death again, and they actually lost radio contact while they were near the object and then they returned to the base. I later learned they never returned to security guard duty."

Salas said it was extraordinary that they lost so many missiles at the same time. Isolated mishaps had made a single missile go "unlaunchable," but never 10 at once. And never 10 at once during a UFO sighting.

As a result of the incident, the missiles had to be fixed to get them all back into launch mode.


http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/former-air-force-officers-ufos-tampered-with-nuclear-missiles/19647296?icid=main%7Ccompaq-desktop%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk1%7C173184

Ebolapox
09-25-2010, 08:02 PM
wow, you and patteau really DO have something in common!

Tribal Warfare
09-25-2010, 08:02 PM
Wow man,That's totally cosmic

mlyonsd
09-25-2010, 08:07 PM
67? Where they drug testing the military yet?

Sure-Oz
09-25-2010, 08:08 PM
Signs was real???

boogblaster
09-25-2010, 08:09 PM
hide your women your children and especially your pets .. they luv kittyburgers .....

splatbass
09-25-2010, 08:10 PM
Maybe they weren't aliens, they were from the future and came back to keep us from blowing ourselves up. :thumb:

Buck
09-25-2010, 08:11 PM
OOPS THEY ACCIDENTALLY DIED IN AN ACCIDENT

mlyonsd
09-25-2010, 08:17 PM
Signs was real???

Of coure it was real. I have cornfields all around my house and have had one locked in my pantry for 3 years now. Every time it sticks a finger out under the door I lop it off with an ice chopper. Pissing me off cause the floor outside the door is ruined.

Stupid bastards flew billions of miles and cant figure out how to get past a locked door. They like cheerios and gatorade btw.

keg in kc
09-25-2010, 08:23 PM
There've been stories about UFO's buzzing nuclear test sites and silos for decades, but this is the first time in my memory that members of the military have been willing to step forward and talk about it. Stories like this have always been interesting to me in the same way that stories that the few pilots willing to break the cone of silence in their profession have been willing to tell do. It sounds a little different when it's coming from somebody in a uniform and not a guy living in a camper in the woods.

DaneMcCloud
09-25-2010, 08:26 PM
I'm surprised it hasn't been disclosed earlier.

Roswell.

Blindside58
09-25-2010, 08:29 PM
hide your women your children and especially your pets .. they luv kittyburgers .....

Don't forget your husbands too! cause dey rapin errbody up herr!

LaChapelle
09-25-2010, 08:36 PM
Since they haven't been known to drop food water or medicine to starving people
humanity is not their top priority

Nightfyre
09-25-2010, 08:40 PM
Get the UFOs away from Montana!

FAX
09-25-2010, 08:42 PM
I don't understand the "breaking the silence" part. These accounts have been public for a long time.

Salas' deal is interesting, though. The team they brought in to "fix" the missiles are on record as having said that what occurred was "impossible". It's a strange case, to be sure.

FAX

alpha_omega
09-25-2010, 09:11 PM
Don't Scientologists pay big $$$ for this type of info?

Hog Farmer
09-25-2010, 09:27 PM
Aliens seem to have a problem with boar cum. I can keep us all safe !

bevischief
09-25-2010, 10:33 PM
4th kind is for real?



So what about Signs and Transformers?

notorious
09-25-2010, 10:36 PM
Aliens seem to have a problem with boar cum. I can keep us all safe !

As long as your son doesn't keep glasses of it around the house.

Crush
09-25-2010, 10:42 PM
As long as your son doesn't keep glasses of it around the house.

Worst porn parody ever.

Frankie
09-25-2010, 10:44 PM
Don't forget your husbands too! cause dey rapin errbody up herr!

Yep. I've heard they have peniginas.

Frankie
09-25-2010, 10:45 PM
Since they haven't been known to drop food water or medicine to starving people
humanity is not their top priority

According to V that would actually be a bad sign if they did.

Rain Man
09-25-2010, 11:26 PM
I want to hear the press conference. We're lucky they didn't set them off like fireworks.

BossChief
09-25-2010, 11:39 PM
Yeah, but will the UFOs help Jamaal Charles get more carries?

brorth
09-25-2010, 11:40 PM
Man, I only need 3 more posts to get in the VIP.

blaise
09-25-2010, 11:55 PM
It was the Mooninites.

Bwana
09-26-2010, 12:01 AM
WE ARE DOOMED!!!!!!

The Pedestrian
09-26-2010, 01:30 AM
Considering the closest thing to a reputable news source that's covering this story is Fox News, I think we're safe to say there's no big deal.

(...and I'll admit, I used to watch Fox News during my first couple years of high school, but they've really gone downhill since deciding to become as biased as everyone originally said they were.)

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-26-2010, 01:44 AM
The most annoying, useless charade in human history. Just acknowledge already, and lets move on.

Hog Farmer
09-26-2010, 06:15 AM
UFO's are real ! I saw one onetime.

rockymtnchief
09-26-2010, 09:28 AM
Get the UFOs away from Montana!

Unless, of course, they're here to kill the the pine beatles!

Bwana
09-26-2010, 09:39 AM
Unless, of course, they're here to kill the the pine beatles!

Or load up all the local granola crunching, wolf loving tree huggers over in Missoula and fly them back to "their planet." :evil:

bevischief
09-26-2010, 10:11 AM
Former Air Force Officers: UFOs Tampered With Nuclear Missiles
Updated: 31 minutes ago

Lee Speigel Contributor

AOL News (Sept. 25) -- Former U.S. Air Force officers and a former enlisted man are about to break many years of silence about an alarming series of UFO encounters at nuclear weapons sites -- incidents officially kept secret for decades.

When the group appears at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on Monday, it will offer testimony about events so chilling, it will seem like a day at a science fiction movie festival.

To put you in the mood for the stories that will soon unfold, we're presenting one here, involving former Air Force Capt. Robert Salas, one of the hosts of the Washington event.


Courtesy of Robert Salas
Former Air Force Capt. Robert Salas says he was involved in a 1967 incident at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana in which a UFO reportedly tampered with nuclear missiles.
Salas, co-author of "Faded Giant" (BookSurge Publishing), was a first lieutenant in 1967, serving as a missile-launch officer while stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana.

On March 16, 1967, Salas was 60 feet below ground working a 24-hour shift monitoring a launch-control center outfitted with 10 nuclear Minuteman missiles.

"I got a call from the topside guard, telling me they were watching some strange lights flying around in the sky, making odd maneuvers. They didn't think they were airplanes because they were going very fast, turning on a dime and not making a bit of noise," Salas told AOL News.

"A few minutes later, he called back, this time screaming into the phone, scared to death, and he said, 'Sir, I'm looking out my front window and there is a glowing red oval-shaped object hovering right above the front gate, and I've got all the guards out here with their weapons drawn.' "

The guard told Salas the UFO was approximately 30 to 40 feet in diameter with a very bright, pulsating light.

When the guard asked what they should do next, Salas' immediate response was that they had to do whatever was necessary to protect the nuclear missile area, "so basically, I was giving them permission to use whatever force they needed to use to keep anything out."

As Salas started to inform his duty partner and commander about what was going on 60 feet above them, something chilling happened.

"All of a sudden, we started getting bells and whistles going off. As we looked at the display board in front of us, sure enough, the missiles began going into an unlaunchable, or no-go, mode. They couldn't be launched -- it went from green to red.

"We also had a couple of security violations, meaning there were lights indicating some kind of intrusion at the missile sites, where the missiles were actually located, about a mile or two away from the launch control facility."

Salas said they immediately performed a system checklist to see what was wrong and to determine how it was possible that 10 nuclear missiles could suddenly be deactivated.

"We were getting mostly guidance and control systems failure, and when I called the guard again, he told me the UFO just left and took off at high speed. So I ordered the guards to go out to the missile sites, and while they were out there, they saw the object again at one of the launch facilities.

"It scared them to death again, and they actually lost radio contact while they were near the object and then they returned to the base. I later learned they never returned to security guard duty."

Salas said it was extraordinary that they lost so many missiles at the same time. Isolated mishaps had made a single missile go "unlaunchable," but never 10 at once. And never 10 at once during a UFO sighting.

As a result of the incident, the missiles had to be fixed to get them all back into launch mode.


http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/former-air-force-officers-ufos-tampered-with-nuclear-missiles/19647296?icid=main%7Ccompaq-desktop%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk1%7C173184

I have worked on some that ancient equipment, wouldn't take much to put it that state. Still spooky...

Oregon chief
09-26-2010, 10:22 AM
How come the guards that actually saw these things aren't the ones coming forward and telling their story?

Buehler445
09-26-2010, 10:27 AM
Or load up all the local granola crunching, wolf loving tree huggers over in Missoula and fly them back to "their planet." :evil:

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rockymtnchief
09-26-2010, 11:00 AM
Or load up all the local granola crunching, wolf loving tree huggers over in Missoula and fly them back to "their planet." :evil:

:clap:

Or clear the Cali's out of Kali.

Frankie
09-28-2010, 12:55 AM
(...and I'll admit, I used to watch Fox News during my first couple years of high school, but they've really gone downhill since deciding to become as biased as everyone originally said they were.)

Or you grew up and saw how far down the hill of integrity they were all along.

Frankie
09-28-2010, 12:56 AM
Any news? Have they given us a book called "To Serve Man" yet?

Guru
09-28-2010, 01:51 AM
Just watch The Event.

The Pedestrian
09-28-2010, 02:00 AM
Or you grew up and saw how far down the hill of integrity they were all along.

LOL, nah...I remember when Bill O'Reilly actually gave time for his liberal guests to respond; then somewhere after the boom of criticism against Fox, he went along with it and cut off every liberal after about 3 words.

Frankie
09-28-2010, 02:00 PM
Just watch The Event.

That's been a hell of a show so far.

beach tribe
09-28-2010, 02:13 PM
Since they haven't been known to drop food water or medicine to starving people
humanity is not their top priority

Like they got a space ship full of Mcdoubles?

KCtotheSB
09-28-2010, 02:31 PM
Remember that South Park where aliens were broadcasting the events on Earth as a reality TV show back on their planet? Yeah, that was a good episode.

Duck Dog
09-28-2010, 03:50 PM
Considering the closest thing to a reputable news source that's covering this story is Fox News, I think we're safe to say there's no big deal.

(...and I'll admit, I used to watch Fox News during my first couple years of high school, but they've really gone downhill since deciding to become as biased as everyone originally said they were.)

STFU

Goldmember
09-28-2010, 03:50 PM
UFO's are real ! I saw one onetime.

You saw an object once, that was flying, but couldn't identify it? I've had that happen once or twice but then it hit my windshield and it wasn't flying anymore.

Duck Dog
09-28-2010, 03:50 PM
Or you grew up and saw how far down the hill of integrity they were all along.

You too.

Goldmember
09-28-2010, 03:51 PM
Remember that South Park where aliens were broadcasting the events on Earth as a reality TV show back on their planet? Yeah, that was a good episode.

Link? It's your responsibility to provide for us.

DMAC
09-28-2010, 03:53 PM
At least they have stopped monitoring nuclear weapon sites and have moved on to boys locker rooms.

Three7s
09-28-2010, 03:54 PM
Aliens are real! They seem to love shopping at Walmart.

Simply Red
09-28-2010, 04:03 PM
after seeing this-->> http://tinyurl.com/nwvpll ...i'm not overly surprised.

InChiefsHell
09-28-2010, 04:12 PM
How come the guards that actually saw these things aren't the ones coming forward and telling their story?

You better quit asking so many questions...just sayin'...

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 04:42 PM
This is the stupidest thing in the history of the world. This is worse than Knowshit. Seriously anyone that believes this crap should be locked in a padded cell and the key thrown away.

OK if you believe this is even possible let me blow your mind. So one light year = 5,865,696,000,000 miles. The closest star is 4 times that distance away.

Voyager 1 that was launched in 1977 is 8,700,000,000 miles from the Sun and is going 61,200 kilometers per hour. Day and night 24/7 since 1977. It will take Voyager 2.2 Million years to go ONE light year! If the aliens have the technology to travel from another star or galaxy why are they visible to humans at all. and why do they need to "hover" over objects 30 feet off the ground. Its retarded. The CLOSEST galaxy is Andromeda and it's 2.6 MILLION light years away. The distance between galaxies is frightening. In one of the very "close" galaxies, if they had powerful enough telescopes, could just now see the light from the asteroid impact that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

The energy and technology needed to cross this gulf of space and get here would really preclude them from being seen. All they would need is to operate from space with a cloaking device which would be much easier to construct than a warp drive to get here.

Unless they wanted us to see them because they were about to land, there is no way we ever see them.

Frankie
09-28-2010, 04:42 PM
Aliens are real! They seem to love shopping at Walmart.

ROFL

DMAC
09-28-2010, 04:45 PM
This is the stupidest thing in the history of the world. This is worse than Knowshit. Seriously anyone that believes this crap should be locked in a padded cell and the key thrown away.

OK if you believe this is even possible let me blow your mind. So one light year = 5,865,696,000,000 miles. The closest star is 4 times that distance away.

Voyager 1 that was launched in 1977 is 8,700,000 miles from the Sun and is going 61,200 kilometers per hour. Day and night 24/7 since 1977. If the aliens have the technology to travel from another star or galaxy why are they visible to humans at all. and why do they need to "hover" over objects 30 feet off the ground. Its retarded. The CLOSEST galaxy is Andromeda and it 2.6 MILLION light years away. The distance between galaxies is frightening. In one of the very "close" galaxies, if they had powerful enough telescopes, they could just now see the light from the asteroid impact that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

The energy and technology needed to cross this gulf of space and get here would really preclude them from being seen. All they would need is to operate from space with a cloaking device which would be much easier to construct than a warp drive to get here.

Unless they wanted us to see them because they were about to land, there is no way we ever see them.Wormholes dude.

Frankie
09-28-2010, 04:46 PM
OK if you believe this is even possible let me blow your mind. So one light year = 5,865,696,000,000 miles. The closest star is 4 times that distance away.

Every time I start thinking in these terms I have to stop and allow for the fact that our knowledge of Physics might be very limited, or even Physics itself is limited, beyond which we cannot think.

Oh hell, it gets pretty complicated.

Frankie
09-28-2010, 04:47 PM
Wormholes dude.

PREVERT!!!

Pants
09-28-2010, 04:50 PM
This is the stupidest thing in the history of the world. This is worse than Knowshit. Seriously anyone that believes this crap should be locked in a padded cell and the key thrown away.

OK if you believe this is even possible let me blow your mind. So one light year = 5,865,696,000,000 miles. The closest star is 4 times that distance away.

Voyager 1 that was launched in 1977 is 8,700,000,000 miles from the Sun and is going 61,200 kilometers per hour. Day and night 24/7 since 1977. It will take Voyager 2.2 Million years to go ONE light year! If the aliens have the technology to travel from another star or galaxy why are they visible to humans at all. and why do they need to "hover" over objects 30 feet off the ground. Its retarded. The CLOSEST galaxy is Andromeda and it's 2.6 MILLION light years away. The distance between galaxies is frightening. In one of the very "close" galaxies, if they had powerful enough telescopes, could just now see the light from the asteroid impact that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

The energy and technology needed to cross this gulf of space and get here would really preclude them from being seen. All they would need is to operate from space with a cloaking device which would be much easier to construct than a warp drive to get here.

Unless they wanted us to see them because they were about to land, there is no way we ever see them.

Thanks, chief. Just because you have no concept of something, doesn't mean it's impossible. When both civilian pilots and ex-military ones come out and start talking about the things they've seen, I like to listen.

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 04:51 PM
Wormholes dude.

Cool idea. How do they know we are here? Did we just get placed on Rand McNallys map of the universe?

Frankie
09-28-2010, 04:55 PM
Cool idea. How do they know we are here? Did we just get placed on Rand McNallys map of the universe?

Gotta think outside the box Dave. Maybe their brains are easily 1000 times more powerful than ours. Maybe their math is based on, say, 12 digits! Who knows?!

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 04:56 PM
There are 100,000,000,000 stars in just the Milky Way. If the Aliens had the technology to visit and explore 1 star every day and scan all its planets it would take 274,000 years just to explore the Milky Way.

Then there are over 200,000,000,000 seen galaxies each with approximately 100,000,000,000 stars in them. If there was an army of Alien explorers out there it would take 100s of trillions of years to find us. You gonna random Wormhole your way through all of the stars out there?

Mathematically the probability is approaching 0 whatever 12 base math system you use :)

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 05:00 PM
Why people think that this planet or solar system is of any interest or significance is beyond me.

Valiant
09-28-2010, 05:03 PM
There are 100,000,000,000 stars in just the Milky Way. If the Aliens had the technology to visit and explore 1 star every day and scan all its planets it would tale 274,000 years just to explore the Milky Way.

Then there are over 200,000,000,000 seen galaxies each with approximately 100,000,000,00 stars in them. If there was an army of Alien explorers out there it would take 100s of trillions of years to find us. You gonna random Wormhole your way through all of the stars out there?

Mathematically the probability is approaching 0 whatever 12 base math system you use :)

Unless they are going faster then the speed of light..

It is not aliens, it is the damn time travelers..

Valiant
09-28-2010, 05:04 PM
There are 100,000,000,000 stars in just the Milky Way. If the Aliens had the technology to visit and explore 1 star every day and scan all its planets it would take 274,000 years just to explore the Milky Way.

Then there are over 200,000,000,000 seen galaxies each with approximately 100,000,000,000 stars in them. If there was an army of Alien explorers out there it would take 100s of trillions of years to find us. You gonna random Wormhole your way through all of the stars out there?

Mathematically the probability is approaching 0 whatever 12 base math system you use :)

Maybe earth is a school zone and they have to travel slow..

Marcellus
09-28-2010, 05:04 PM
Why people think that this planet or solar system is of any interest or significance is beyond me.

While I agree this story is probably BS, you are completely missing the point that you being human may not be evolved enough to understand the physics or concept of it etc...

Kind of like how an ant doesn't understand how to drive a stick shift.

You are trying to take human knowledge and understanding of science and apply it to something that isn't human at all.

People 20 years ago would shit if they had seen an iPhone and we are talking 1990.

Pants
09-28-2010, 05:06 PM
Gotta think outside the box Dave. Maybe their brains are easily 1000 times more powerful than ours. Maybe their math is based on, say, 12 digits! Who knows?!

Like I said earlier, just because you don't have a concept of something, doesn't mean it's impossible. Take ants for example - they're not aware of anything outside of their universe - they know how to build an anthill and live in a simple society but just because they have no concept of us, doesn't mean we don't exist or can travel much greater distances with ease and do things magnitudes outside of the realm of their brain function.

We could be those ants. I don't think we'd be magnitudes lower in brain capacity but even just one magnitude (like say the difference between us and other large primates) would be enough to create that great separation in thought, technology and knowledge in general.

Marcellus
09-28-2010, 05:08 PM
Like I said earlier, just because you don't have a concept of something, doesn't mean it's impossible. Take ants for example - they're not aware of anything outside of their universe - they know how to build an anthill and live in a simple society but just because they have no concept of us, doesn't mean we don't exist or can travel much greater distances with ease and do things magnitudes outside of the realm of their brain function.

We could be those ants. I don't think we'd be magnitudes lower in brain capacity but even just one magnitude (like say the difference between us and other large primates) would be enough to create that great separation in thought, technology and knowledge in general.

Look at the post above yours. Kinda odd we both used Ants as an example. I kept it more basic though.

Pants
09-28-2010, 05:13 PM
Look at the post above yours. Kinda odd we both used Ants as an example. I kept it more basic though.

Hahaha, that's awesome. Looks like you beat me by 2 minutes; but yeah, we're talking about the same exact principle. It's kind of like how we can't exactly conceptualize infinity (I mean, we have calculus with infinite limits and then the higher math) but our brains just weren't made to process infinity or, at least, that part of the brain is locked away if you want to go into spiritual discussion and the greater consciousness.

Otter
09-28-2010, 05:13 PM
There are 100,000,000,000 stars in just the Milky Way. If the Aliens had the technology to visit and explore 1 star every day and scan all its planets it would take 274,000 years just to explore the Milky Way.

Then there are over 200,000,000,000 seen galaxies each with approximately 100,000,000,000 stars in them. If there was an army of Alien explorers out there it would take 100s of trillions of years to find us. You gonna random Wormhole your way through all of the stars out there?

Mathematically the probability is approaching 0 whatever 12 base math system you use :)

Before someone starts crafting me a tinfoil hat my stance on aliens is simply: I don't know.

But, if you believe in the big bang theory isn't it possible that those galaxys 10,000,000,000 light years away have had much more time (less is possible of course as well depending on your position relative to the *bang*) to develop technology? They may have had nuclear energy back when we were still trying to crawl out of the ocean.

Take a look what we've managed to develop and advance technologically over just the past hundred years. A laptop that weighs a mere 3 pounds has the processing power of a computer that filled a room just 100 (give or take) years ago. Now take those advances and give it say....100,000 more years.

Just saying, for something we know so little about you seem awfully sure.

Frankie
09-28-2010, 05:17 PM
Hahaha, that's awesome. Looks like you beat me by 2 minutes;

That's cuz he's a time traveler.

FAX
09-28-2010, 05:45 PM
Why people think that this planet or solar system is of any interest or significance is beyond me.

Because we have California Pizza Kitchens and Kate Beckinsale, obviously. I don't know why I have to explain this to you.

Anyhow, there's really no way to know if or why highly advanced civilizations would be interested in our planet. Hawking surmises that it would be due to our natural resources ... the universe is comprised of much of the same stuff and we may have more rare stuff than other places do ... like liquid water.

Besides, they may not be extraterrestrial at all. They could be inter-dimensional beings of some sort ... from one of the various multiverses proposed by bubble or quantum theory.

Either way, I think it's time to invent some kind of Abduction Butt Blocker that fits neatly in the rectum and emits a surprisingly shrill noise and noxious fumes when one of those bastards tries to probe your ass. Given the Vatican's recent statement, the UN's appointment of an intergalactic diplomat and the coming disclosure from the US government, I predict a booming business in Abduction Butt Blockers.

FAX

keg in kc
09-28-2010, 05:47 PM
Before someone starts crafting me a tinfoil hat my stance on aliens is simply: I don't know.And I think that's the most logical stance to have.

I think some people, especially detractor/debunkers (I do not use the word "skeptic" because they are not thinking skeptically), lose sight of the fact that the topic is Unidentified Flying Objects. The key word being "unidentified". And not "alien".

B_Ambuehl
09-28-2010, 05:55 PM
While I agree this story is probably BS, you are completely missing the point that you being human may not be evolved enough to understand the physics or concept of it etc...

Kind of like how an ant doesn't understand how to drive a stick shift.

You are trying to take human knowledge and understanding of science and apply it to something that isn't human at all.

People 20 years ago would shit if they had seen an iPhone and we are talking 1990.

That's an excellent point. There are people on earth today as evolved as we are (south american villagers) that would no sooner understand how the most basic of modern human invention works (light bulbs, telephones, radios, televisions, etc.) than the most advanced among us could understand how a concept such as bending time would be possible.

keg in kc
09-28-2010, 06:00 PM
Hell, I couldn't tell you how my TV works. Albeit mainly because I don't care. But, hey, I turn it on and it works.

But I do understand that it's technology and that there aren't little people in there, or that the camera phone that lady is taking a picture of her kid with is probably not stealing her soul.

Or is it?

boogblaster
09-28-2010, 06:00 PM
You
re quite right Mr FAX .. Ive seen aircraft hovering above a local lake numerous tiomes .. it looked like they were taking in water ....Because we have California Pizza Kitchens and Kate Beckinsale, obviously. I don't know why I have to explain this to you.

Anyhow, there's really no way to know if or why highly advanced civilizations would be interested in our planet. Hawking surmises that it would be due to our natural resources ... the universe is comprised of much of the same stuff and we may have more rare stuff than other places do ... like liquid water.

Besides, they may not be extraterrestrial at all. They could be inter-dimensional beings of some sort ... from one of the various multiverses proposed by bubble or quantum theory.

Either way, I think it's time to invent some kind of Abduction Butt Blocker that fits neatly in the rectum and emits a surprisingly shrill noise and noxious fumes when one of those bastards tries to probe your ass. Given the Vatican's recent statement, the UN's appointment of an intergalactic diplomat and the coming disclosure from the US government, I predict a booming business in Abduction Butt Blockers.

FAX

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-28-2010, 06:16 PM
after seeing this-->> http://tinyurl.com/nwvpll ...i'm not overly surprised.

ROFL

BIG_DADDY
09-28-2010, 07:21 PM
Why people think that this planet or solar system is of any interest or significance is beyond me.

I know very little about to solar system compared to some but from what I have gathered over the years the earth is very unique. Does that make it significant, well I guess we all have an opinion on that and I would choose to say yes. What I believe we do know is very little about what is actually possible. I know you believe we are nothing and god doesn't exist. Once again I choose to believe differently. My challenge to you being that you seem to come across as believing you are more intelligent than everyone else here is to describe how you can witness the absolute miracle of all that exists with it's intelligent design and draw the conclusion that there is no god. Not only do you come to that conclusion but it seems that it is very important to you to blast anyone with a difference of opinion with you in this area. Shoot away great omniscient one.

Pants
09-28-2010, 07:31 PM
Can we please not bring in God and Intelligent Design into this?

Fish
09-28-2010, 07:46 PM
Before someone starts crafting me a tinfoil hat my stance on aliens is simply: I don't know.

But, if you believe in the big bang theory isn't it possible that those galaxys 10,000,000,000 light years away have had much more time (less is possible of course as well depending on your position relative to the *bang*) to develop technology? They may have had nuclear energy back when we were still trying to crawl out of the ocean.

Take a look what we've managed to develop and advance technologically over just the past hundred years. A laptop that weighs a mere 3 pounds has the processing power of a computer that filled a room just 100 (give or take) years ago. Now take those advances and give it say....100,000 more years.

Just saying, for something we know so little about you seem awfully sure.

You're cutting the universe short. It's at least 14 billion years old or so according to our simple technology.

Take those advances and give them 3 billion years or so. Just try and wrap your brain around that....

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 07:47 PM
I know very little about to solar system compared to some but from what I have gathered over the years the earth is very unique. Does that make it significant, well I guess we all have an opinion on that and I would choose to say yes. What I believe we do know is very little about what is actually possible. I know you believe we are nothing and god doesn't exist. Once again I choose to believe differently. My challenge to you being that you seem to come across as believing you are more intelligent than everyone else here is to describe how you can witness the absolute miracle of all that exists with it's intelligent design and draw the conclusion that there is no god. Not only do you come to that conclusion but it seems that it is very important to you to blast anyone with a difference of opinion with you in this area. Shoot away great omniscient one.

Well as metrolike says I'll keep god out of it.

Troy have you ever watched "a pale blue dot"?

If not do yourself a huge favor and go to YouTube and watch the full version several times right now. You had me watch David D and now I return the favor. If you listen carefully and thoughtfully it will change your view of the world and yourself. I watch it a couple times a month and each time I find it more profound. It puts in perspective so much of the insignificance of our day to day actions and helps me at least relax and understand not to take life as seriously as I once did.

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 08:00 PM
Before someone starts crafting me a tinfoil hat my stance on aliens is simply: I don't know.

Well I maybe mixing some people up. I do believe in Aliens at least in the form of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. I think in millions of places most likely. What I don't think is that if these massively advanced civilizations somehow managed to stumble upon this little world they would have hover over army bases like a hobgoblin to shutoff warheads. It's retarded they would do that. They would be like slingshots to them anyway. And why be visible if they can generate enough power to open a wormhole and traverse trillions of miles of space. Why should they keep hovering over buildings and always just appear to a couple people why not reveal themselves if they are going to do that?

petegz28
09-28-2010, 08:38 PM
Like I said earlier, just because you don't have a concept of something, doesn't mean it's impossible. Take ants for example - they're not aware of anything outside of their universe - they know how to build an anthill and live in a simple society but just because they have no concept of us, doesn't mean we don't exist or can travel much greater distances with ease and do things magnitudes outside of the realm of their brain function.

We could be those ants. I don't think we'd be magnitudes lower in brain capacity but even just one magnitude (like say the difference between us and other large primates) would be enough to create that great separation in thought, technology and knowledge in general.

No, no, no!!! If we can't do it, nothing else in the universe can!!!

petegz28
09-28-2010, 08:41 PM
This is the stupidest thing in the history of the world. This is worse than Knowshit. Seriously anyone that believes this crap should be locked in a padded cell and the key thrown away.

OK if you believe this is even possible let me blow your mind. So one light year = 5,865,696,000,000 miles. The closest star is 4 times that distance away.

Voyager 1 that was launched in 1977 is 8,700,000,000 miles from the Sun and is going 61,200 kilometers per hour. Day and night 24/7 since 1977. It will take Voyager 2.2 Million years to go ONE light year! If the aliens have the technology to travel from another star or galaxy why are they visible to humans at all. and why do they need to "hover" over objects 30 feet off the ground. Its retarded. The CLOSEST galaxy is Andromeda and it's 2.6 MILLION light years away. The distance between galaxies is frightening. In one of the very "close" galaxies, if they had powerful enough telescopes, could just now see the light from the asteroid impact that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

The energy and technology needed to cross this gulf of space and get here would really preclude them from being seen. All they would need is to operate from space with a cloaking device which would be much easier to construct than a warp drive to get here.

Unless they wanted us to see them because they were about to land, there is no way we ever see them.

You seem to be making the gross assumption, and I do mean gross, that the only method of traveling a great distance in a short amount of time is to travel at lightspeed. Which is absolutely hogwash.

petegz28
09-28-2010, 08:43 PM
Cool idea. How do they know we are here? Did we just get placed on Rand McNallys map of the universe?

How do you know they didn't seed life on this planet? It is a possibility that cannot be ruled out.

And by seed I do not mean create Adam and Eve. I mean plant the building blocks for life in general to evolve.

Rausch
09-28-2010, 08:50 PM
I don't understand the "breaking the silence" part. These accounts have been public for a long time.

Salas' deal is interesting, though. The team they brought in to "fix" the missiles are on record as having said that what occurred was "impossible". It's a strange case, to be sure.

FAX

There is nothing to see here...please move along...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bloggingstocks.com/media/2007/07/baghdad_bob_1.jpg

Rausch
09-28-2010, 08:52 PM
You seem to be making the gross assumption, and I do mean gross, that the only method of traveling a great distance in a short amount of time is to travel at lightspeed. Which is absolutely hogwash.

In less than 100 years we went from traveling on the backs of animals as our primary mode of transportation to leaving earth on rockets.

Think about that...

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 08:55 PM
Pete it would have to be algea or something because the fossil record is pretty consistent. And again my point is not that it isn't possible intelligent life exists around it's really that there such a low probability of them finding us and IF they did Why are they flying around where everyone can see them 50 feet off the ground? And why to they have lights on them at night that people see zip away?

That's my point.

stevieray
09-28-2010, 08:59 PM
In less than 100 years

Think about that...
we rode horses for how many centuries?

petegz28
09-28-2010, 09:00 PM
Pete it would have to be algea or something because the fossil record is pretty consistent. And again my point is not that it isn't possible intelligent life exists around it's really that there such a low probability of them finding us and IF they did Why are they flying around where everyone can see them 50 feet off the ground? And why to they have lights on them at night that people see zip away?

That's my point.

Dude it could have been and probably was if they did so, the smallest building blocls of life. Algea would almost be advanced.

Why are they hiding and keeping the mystery surrounding them? Who says they are? Perhaps they are just hiding from the general public? There are a lot of things, such as religion, that can literally be turned upside down and possibly create chaos if there were proof of intelligent life beyond us.

Otter
09-28-2010, 09:01 PM
Well I maybe mixing some people up. I do believe in Aliens at least in the form of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. I think in millions of places most likely. What I don't think is that if these massively advanced civilizations somehow managed to stumble upon this little world they would have hover over army bases like a hobgoblin to shutoff warheads. It's retarded they would do that. They would be like slingshots to them anyway. And why be visible if they can generate enough power to open a wormhole and traverse trillions of miles of space. Why should they keep hovering over buildings and always just appear to a couple people why not reveal themselves if they are going to do that?

Considering the fact that we're transmitting radio waves from communications like BO off a fat guy in Texas in August and we even have several transmitting and receiving satellites dedicated to getting aliens attention I think increases the odds of stumbling across us.

Actions if they ever were or ever will be here...you're guess is as good as mine.

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 09:02 PM
In less than 100 years we went from traveling on the backs of animals as our primary mode of transportation to leaving earth on rockets.

Think about that...

I'm not sure if you've seen the calculations on what it would take to rip space time but it's a staggering amount of energy. Like converting the sun into pure energy x10.

And again even if they had the technology what would lead them to ever look here. This is just some random speck. There are a 100 billion stars like ours in the milky way. What would cause them to stumble upon us?

petegz28
09-28-2010, 09:08 PM
I'm not sure if you've seen the calculations on what it would take to rip space time but it's a staggering amount of energy. Like converting the sun into pure energy x10.

And again even if they had the technology what would lead them to ever look here. This is just some random speck. There are a 100 billion stars like ours in the milky way. What would cause them to stumble upon us?

Energy is a variable and only can be applied to the limit of our intelligence. I give you anti-gravity as an example of a possible propulsion method that could require little energy depending on how it was produced.

Then again you have anti-matter and I foget the name of it, I want to say negative energy but I don't think that's right. There are forms of energy in this universe that a extremely more powerful than anything we have and in very, very small amounts.

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 09:09 PM
Considering the fact that we're transmitting radio waves from communications like BO off a fat guy in Texas in August and we even have several transmitting and receiving satellites dedicated to getting aliens attention I think increases the odds of stumbling across us.

Actions if they ever were or ever will be here...you're guess is as good as mine.

Trouble is this, detectible radio waves are really only in the last 30-40 years. So it would have to be one of maybe 10 stars that are that close. The other problem is that we will soon go dark once again as broadcasting signals is becoming very passť and we can expect the Internet to replace most over the air broadcasting.

For the most part if the radio waves were ever detected and it's highly unlikely they will due to distance it maybe 100,000 years before they get there. And that's if it's in the milky way not outside it.

It's really hard to wrap your head around the distances involved here.

Gonzo
09-28-2010, 09:10 PM
I'm worried my friends. Not about our alien overlords finally visiting us but about a certain poster that would usually be fapgasiming all over this thread.

Where the hell is Mikey? He loves this shit.
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Rausch
09-28-2010, 09:11 PM
And again my point is not that it isn't possible intelligent life exists around it's really that there such a low probability of them finding us...

First, even we are able to now identify small amounts of exoplanets and earth-similar bodies circling far away suns.

Give us 100 more years looking and I'm sure the location of habitable planets will become much easier.

Just consider Moore's Law.

Consider us 1,000 years from now. You can't. It's something that will be so alien we wouldn't even recognize it.

Second, planets able to sustain life are so rare they'd be the most desirable destination in the universe for any scientific culture...


...and IF they did Why are they flying around where everyone can see them 50 feet off the ground?

They don't seem to.

The only time you hear about these types of stories are from ex-military.

If you still want to ask why I'd say it's someone flexing their muscle. They just want to show up, show what they can do, as a warning.

And why to they have lights on them at night that people see zip away?


Uh.....it's an aircraft?

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 09:11 PM
Energy is a variable and only can be applied to the limit of our intelligence. I give you anti-gravity as an example of a possible propulsion method that could require little energy depending on how it was produced.

Then again you have anti-matter and I foget the name of it, I want to say negative energy but I don't think that's right. There are forms of energy in this universe that a extremely more powerful than anything we have and in very, very small amounts.

Dark energy. And again it's not an issue of IF it's possible to get here it's why? And how did they figure to come here there are no beacons or anything. :)

Otter
09-28-2010, 09:14 PM
Trouble is this, detectible radio waves are really only in the last 30-40 years. So it would have to be one of maybe 10 stars that are that close. The other problem is that we will soon go dark once again as broadcasting signals is becoming very passť and we can expect the Internet to replace most over the air broadcasting.

For the most part if the radio waves were ever detected and it's highly unlikely they will due to distance it maybe 100,000 years before they get there. And that's if it's in the milky way not outside it.

It's really hard to wrap your head around the distances involved here.

I understand that and I don't disagree with you at all. It may give us a different "signature" than other planes though which may help us stand out.

petegz28
09-28-2010, 09:15 PM
Dark energy. And again it's not an issue of IF it's possible to get here it's why? And how did they figure to come here there are no beacons or anything. :)

Nom it isn't dark energy what I am thinking of. Though there is that. What I am talking about is basically of you could get the opposite energy of a magnet. In other words if you could say, cut off the end of a magnet and the new end would be the polar opposite of the uncut end. That doesn't happen but that is how it was explained.

petegz28
09-28-2010, 09:16 PM
Dark energy. And again it's not an issue of IF it's possible to get here it's why? And how did they figure to come here there are no beacons or anything. :)

Why do we try to get to other planets? Do you think if we discovered another earth like planet we wouldn't be agressive in our investigation of it?

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 09:17 PM
Raush I think we will find class M planets everywhere. I think there are 100s of trillions of in the universe. And I think there will be life found on planets that are not in the "goldilocks zone"

Again I agree they could come here but why reveal yourself if you don't need to?

Rausch
09-28-2010, 09:21 PM
I'm not sure if you've seen the calculations on what it would take to rip space time but it's a staggering amount of energy. Like converting the sun into pure energy x10.

Look at it this way: Lewis and Clark didn't try to reverse the the flow of a river. They learned how to build a better boat.

And again even if they had the technology what would lead them to ever look here. This is just some random speck. There are a 100 billion stars like ours in the milky way. What would cause them to stumble upon us?

I'm sure those in North America when the Europeans got here thought the same thing.

"What could they want from us?"

Hell man, we explore the most remote areas of the Amazon for fucking new drugs to fight acne...

Rausch
09-28-2010, 09:22 PM
Again I agree they could come here but why reveal yourself if you don't need to?

I think they walk softly and carry a big stick...

keg in kc
09-28-2010, 09:23 PM
Again I agree they could come here but why reveal yourself if you don't need to?You're thinking of them like they're us. Alien minds could probably think of alien reasons to do alien things. Why would they have to have a humanly rational reason for it?

stevieray
09-28-2010, 09:26 PM
You're thinking of them like they're us.
and yet, ironically, aliens always seem to have human form... head, eyes, torso, legs and arms.

Rausch
09-28-2010, 09:28 PM
and yet, ironically, aliens always seem to have human form... head, eyes, torso, legs and arms.

Vaguely, perhaps.

I haven't seen pics of anything I'd want wake up next to...

petegz28
09-28-2010, 09:28 PM
and yet, ironically, aliens always seem to have human form... head, eyes, torso, legs and arms.

Those are physical properties which are nothing more than a product of environment.

stevieray
09-28-2010, 09:29 PM
Those are physical properties which are nothing more than a product of environment.

translation: created by humans.

petegz28
09-28-2010, 09:35 PM
translation: created by humans.

Wrong. What part of physical environment are you not getting?

It is a scientific fact that the minute we enter 0 gravity our bonemass begins to deteriorate. Astronauts have actually come back shorter than when they left. Astronauts have to work out several hours a day in space to maintain muscle mass because in a 0g environment the muscles and bones are not needed and the body immediately starts to compensate for the new surroundings.

Thus many aliens being portrayed as short, very skinny and large eyed. If you spent a great deal of time in little or no gravity you would look similar. You would not need large bones or big muscles. You would need bigger eyes from a lower light environment and one could assume you would have a larger cranium as that would be one of the primary organs your body would deliver the most energy too. Your heart and lungs would not need to be near as large as they are not fighting the constant force of gravity.

Rausch
09-28-2010, 09:43 PM
Wrong. What part of physical environment are you not getting?

It is a scientific fact that the minute we enter 0 gravity our bonemass begins to deteriorate. Astronauts have actually come back shorter than when they left. Astronauts have to work out several hours a day in space to maintain muscle mass because in a 0g environment the muscles and bones are not needed and the body immediately starts to compensate for the new surroundings.

Thus many aliens being portrayed as short, very skinny and large eyed. If you spent a great deal of time in little or no gravity you would look similar. You would not need large bones or big muscles. You would need bigger eyes from a lower light environment and one could assume you would have a larger cranium as that would be one of the primary organs your body would deliver the most energy too. Your heart and lungs would not need to be near as large as they are not fighting the constant force of gravity.

This type of talk is a waste of time.

For the sake of argument let's say aliens have come here. Let's say they show up tomorrow and want to make friends.

If they're able to get here they're so far ahead of us technologically they'd be indistinguishable from God...

petegz28
09-28-2010, 10:00 PM
This type of talk is a waste of time.

For the sake of argument let's say aliens have come here. Let's say they show up tomorrow and want to make friends.

If they're able to get here they're so far ahead of us technologically they'd be indistinguishable from God...

Um, ok???

Dave Lane
09-28-2010, 10:03 PM
This type of talk is a waste of time.

For the sake of argument let's say aliens have come here. Let's say they show up tomorrow and want to make friends.

If they're able to get here they're so far ahead of us technologically they'd be indistinguishable from God...

Well if there was just one I suppose. Have you played Assassains Creed 2 by any chance?

Rausch
09-28-2010, 10:04 PM
Um, ok???

They could problably look like whatever they want.

They'd put forth whatever image they want.

Whatever they'd want us to see is what we would.

I don't think we'd ever know what THEY looked like because that alone would be an advantage there's no purpose in giving away...

Rausch
09-28-2010, 10:13 PM
we rode horses for how many centuries?

The advent of technology changes all.

Someone from the 40's would feel like a stranger in a strange land today despite being from the same planet.

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-28-2010, 10:17 PM
The advent of technology changes all.

Someone from the 40's would feel like a stranger in a strange land today despite being from the same planet.

Truth.

crossbow
09-29-2010, 12:12 AM
Current astronomers believe our Galaxy is on a collision course with another one...


I am storing bottled water and canned food in my basement just in case.
It doesn't hurt to be on the safe side.

BWillie
09-29-2010, 12:14 AM
Aliens have not visited Earth within the last 100 years, this much I assure you. I think some of you have been watching Independence Day one too many times. I have never in my life seen anything that could not be explained. If it was a UFO, it probably was an unidentified flying object made by man...and these guys are trying to get their name in the spotlight for a short period of time.

Frankie
09-29-2010, 12:49 AM
Current astronomers believe our Galaxy is on a collision course with another one...


I am storing bottled water and canned food in my basement just in case.
It doesn't hurt to be on the safe side.

ROFL You forgot duct tape.

teedubya
09-29-2010, 12:51 AM
is this the OFFICIAL ufo thread?

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-29-2010, 01:50 AM
Current astronomers believe our Galaxy is on a collision course with another one...


I am storing bottled water and canned food in my basement just in case.
It doesn't hurt to be on the safe side.

You plan to live for a billion years until we collide with Andromeda?

Chocolate Hog
09-29-2010, 02:04 AM
George Bush hates black people

mikey23545
09-29-2010, 02:35 AM
I'm worried my friends. Not about our alien overlords finally visiting us but about a certain poster that would usually be fapgasiming all over this thread.

Where the hell is Mikey? He loves this shit.
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Sorry, I was in a meeting with...never mind.

Rausch
09-29-2010, 06:06 AM
You plan to live for a billion years until we collide with Andromeda?


Hell man, she's asking for it...

http://www.rodin-web.org/works/pix/andromeda_big.jpg

"Hike up your skirt a little more
And show the world to me
Hike up your skirt a little more
And show your world to me
In a boys dream.. In a boys dream..."

FAX
09-29-2010, 01:17 PM
I'm sorry to have to say this, but Mr. Dave Lane is getting the very last Abduction Butt Blocker off the assembly line.

FAX

Donger
09-29-2010, 01:29 PM
after seeing this-->> http://tinyurl.com/nwvpll ...i'm not overly surprised.

That's obviously fake. There is no 29th month.

Donger
09-29-2010, 01:38 PM
Aliens and UFOs don't exist. There, I said it.

BTW, Dave Lane, please tell me you approximate height and weight. BMI would be icing.

Thanks.

FAX
09-29-2010, 01:50 PM
The problem with the whole "UFO/Alien" deal is that there are so many kooks who think they've taken rides on spaceships, been abducted 500 times, and have an implant in their small toe. It really creates a problem for those seriously interested in the phenomenon.

The other problem, obviously, are the "debunkers" who attempt to quash all conversation on the subject with fewer facts and more bias than any reasonable person would either expect or possess.

The reports that most interest me are the pilot reports (of which there are many), particularly the ones supported by radar data and multiple pilot sightings. I consider myself to be a skeptic, but if you take the time to research some of these events, you have to admit that either A) A lot of pilots are taking acid or B) There are some damn strange things flying around the sky.

These are pilots who are hesitant to discuss their experience let alone trying to sell books or speaking engagements. Honestly, I'd suggest to anyone who has developed a pre-conceived opinion that UFOs do not exist that they research some of those well-documented reports. Many are, to be frank about it, fascinating.

FAX

vailpass
09-29-2010, 01:54 PM
I saw UFO once. They were with Dio and Judas Priest.
Helluva frigging show.

FAX
09-29-2010, 01:55 PM
I saw UFO once. They were with Dio and Judas Priest.
Helluva frigging show.

One of my all-time favorite bands. They're still damn good, too.

FAX

Rausch
09-29-2010, 01:55 PM
The world is not ready to hear that we're an ant hill on a patch of grass on someone else's highway.

I'd love to argue the geopolitical consequences of a hypothetical moon-man-landing.

What forum would I even take this to? DC?...

vailpass
09-29-2010, 01:57 PM
One of my all-time favorite bands. They're still damn good, too.

FAX

Amen. Rock and roll like rock and roll was meant to be.

Donger
09-29-2010, 01:58 PM
I'd love to argue the geopolitical consequences of a hypothetical moon-man-landing.

You mean our Moon?

EDIT: Nevermind.

Donger
09-29-2010, 01:58 PM
I saw UFO once. They were with Dio and Judas Priest.
Helluva frigging show.

I had to look them up.

LMAO

stevieray
09-29-2010, 02:00 PM
The advent of technology changes all.

Someone from the 40's would feel like a stranger in a strange land today despite being from the same planet.

...doesn't matter, you can learn to ride a horse, and they could learn to use a cell phone.

point being it took over fifty centuries to get from horses to rockets, we aren't going to deep space anytime soon.

Rausch
09-29-2010, 02:02 PM
...doesn't matter, you can learn to ride a horse, and they could learn to use a cell phone.

point being it took over fifty centuries to get from horses to rockets, we aren't going to deep space anytime soon.

You really don't understand the FACT that IT increases exponentially...

Rausch
09-29-2010, 02:04 PM
You mean our Moon?

EDIT: Nevermind.

...

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/54/facepalm.jpg

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:06 PM
Mr. Dave Lane is a smart person. No question about it. Interestingly, however, not all UFO believer dudes are stupid and/or nuts ... some of you may find this interesting ...

"The least improbable explanation is that these things are artificial and controlled. . .my opinion for some time has been that they have an extraterrestrial origin."

-Dr. Maurice Biot, aerodynamicist and mathematical physicist.

"We find ourselves faced by powers which are far stronger than we had hitherto assumed, and whose base is at present unknown to us. More I cannot say at present. We are now engaged in entering into closer contact with those powers, and in six or nine months time it may be possible to speak with some precision on the matter."

-Werner Von Braun, rocket scientist

"The discs use a means of propulsion different from ours. There is no other possible explanation. Flying saucers come from another world."

-Louis Breguet, French aircraft designer and manufacturer.

"What I found [in doing research for the book Project Delta] was compelling evidence to claim that most of these aerial objects far exceeded the terrestrial technology of the era in which they were seen. I was forced to conclude that there is a great likelihood that Earth is being visited by highly advanced aerospace vehicles under highly 'intelligent' control indeed."

-Dr. Richard F. Haines, retired NASA senior research scientist at Ames Research Center and the Research Institute for Advanced Computer Science where he worked on the International Space Station.

"Many professional astronomers are convinced that saucers are interplanetary machines."

-Dr. Frank Halstead of the Darling Observatory, Minnesota

"I was there at [Project] Bluebook and I know the job they had. They were told not to excite the public, not to rock the boat... Whenever a case happened that they could explain--which was quite a few--they made a point of that, and let that out to the media. . .Cases that were very difficult to explain, they would jump handsprings to keep the media away from them. They had a job to do, rightfully or wrongfully, to keep the public from getting excited."

-Dr. J. Allen Hynek, former Chairman of the Dept. of Astronomy at North Western University and scientific advisor to Project Bluebook

"The day will arrive when the governments of earth will finally admit we are not alone, that humans have come face to face with other lifeforms from the cosmos."

-Clark McClelland, Aerospace Engineer and Technical Assistant to the Apollo Program Manager

"I have absolutely no idea where the UFO's come from or how they are operated, but after ten years of research, I know they are something from outside our atmosphere."

-Dr. James E. McDonald, Professor of Atmospheric physics, University of Arizona.

"The facts about saucers were long tracked down and results have long been known in top secret defense circles of more countries than one."

-Dr. Harry Messel, Professor of Physics at Sydney University, Australia

And, there are countless more. It's a phenomenon, to be sure.

FAX

vailpass
09-29-2010, 02:09 PM
I had to look them up.

LMAO

I'm sure a lot of people would have to look them up. Still, they come from your (ex) side of the pond. Don't you blokes all know each other? :D

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:09 PM
Amen. Rock and roll like rock and roll was meant to be.

Have you seen some of the live studio stuff posted on Youtube, Mr. vailpass?

Cathartic chills run up and down my spine on "Love to love".

FAX

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:09 PM
...

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/54/facepalm.jpg

Oh come on. I can't be the only person who read what you wrote that way.

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:10 PM
I'm sure a lot of people would have to look them up. Still, they come from your (ex) side of the pond. Don't you blokes all know each other? :D

I hope not. But, it looks like this band came to notice long before I was listening to music, in the UK or here.

Rausch
09-29-2010, 02:12 PM
Oh come on. I can't be the only person who read what you wrote that way.

Sir, wash your legs...

vailpass
09-29-2010, 02:14 PM
Have you seen some of the live studio stuff posted on Youtube, Mr. vailpass?

Cathartic chills run up and down my spine on "Love to love".

FAX

Thank you for that excxellent suggestion FAX. I have recently discovered YouTube on my television. Tonight I'm going to mix myself a cocktail or three, ease back in my chair and rock my socks off via YouTube. I'll begin with the stylings of UFO and let it take me where it will. I'll be a kid again, for a night.

stevieray
09-29-2010, 02:14 PM
Wrong. What part of physical environment are you not getting?

It is a scientific fact that the minute we enter 0 gravity our bonemass begins to deteriorate. Astronauts have actually come back shorter than when they left. Astronauts have to work out several hours a day in space to maintain muscle mass because in a 0g environment the muscles and bones are not needed and the body immediately starts to compensate for the new surroundings.

Thus many aliens being portrayed as short, very skinny and large eyed. If you spent a great deal of time in little or no gravity you would look similar. You would not need large bones or big muscles. You would need bigger eyes from a lower light environment and one could assume you would have a larger cranium as that would be one of the primary organs your body would deliver the most energy too. Your heart and lungs would not need to be near as large as they are not fighting the constant force of gravity.

bones, muscles, eyes, cranium, organs, heart and lungs....all human characteristics.

you claim they could've traveled across light years across space and seeded life on this planet, yet they need big eyes to see? sounds silly.

Rausch
09-29-2010, 02:17 PM
I hope not. But, it looks like this band came to notice long before I was listening to music, in the UK or here.

Douche.

This type of $#it is your job.

I guess you didn't spread the news about real beer, how easy the Britts are, the Arctic Monkeys or Korpiklaani either, eh?...

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:18 PM
Thank you for that excxellent suggestion FAX. I have recently discovered YouTube on my television. Tonight I'm going to mix myself a cocktail or three, ease back in my chair and rock my socks off via YouTube. I'll begin with the stylings of UFO and let it take me where it will. I'll be a kid again, for a night.

Just search "ufo live studio". A whole list of songs will magically appear like an alien in the night ... "Cherry", "Profession of Violence", "Pack It Up And Go", and many more. It was a hell of a session.

They absolutely kill "Love to love". And my computer speakers suck.

FAX

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:19 PM
Douche.

This type of $#it is your job.

I guess you didn't spread the news about real beer, how easy the Britts are, the Arctic Monkeys or Korpiklaani either, eh?...

No, but I did introduce my kids to ELP the other night. Hoedown blew them away.

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:19 PM
I hope not. But, it looks like this band came to notice long before I was listening to music, in the UK or here.

I'm highly disappointed in you, Mr. Donger. Highly.

FAX

Rausch
09-29-2010, 02:22 PM
No, but I did introduce my kids to ELP the other night. Hoedown blew them away.

MOTHERFUCKER!

PINK MOTHERFUCKING FLOYD!

Jesus-...................*sigh*......fuck....

Fucking kids these days.......just don't.......fuck.....


PINK FLOYD IS WHY ENGLAND WON WWII!1!:cuss::mad::cuss:

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:22 PM
I'm highly disappointed in you, Mr. Donger. Highly.

FAX

I may not be as old as some people think I am.

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:23 PM
MOTHER****ER!

PINK MOTHER****ING FLOYD!

Jesus-...................*sigh*......****....

****ing kids these days.......just don't.......****.....


PINK FLOYD IS WHY ENGLAND WON WWII!1!:cuss::mad::cuss:

Yes, I've heard of them. Growing up, it was ELP, The Who and Tomita in our house.

My Dad's a little off.

Rausch
09-29-2010, 02:24 PM
Yes, I've heard of them. Growing up, it was ELP, The Who and Tomita in our house.

My Dad's a little off.

Much explained with few words...

Tuckdaddy
09-29-2010, 02:25 PM
We are not alone. Never have been.

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:27 PM
Much explained with few words...

And Mum only listened to classical and The Beatles. I hate The Beatles.

vailpass
09-29-2010, 02:28 PM
Just search "ufo live studio". A whole list of songs will magically appear like an alien in the night ... "Cherry", "Profession of Violence", "Pack It Up And Go", and many more. It was a hell of a session.

They absolutely kill "Love to love". And my computer speakers suck.

FAX

Oh man. I'm gonna' get me some Schenker tonight. Another night where my kids ask mom if dad's okay.

vailpass
09-29-2010, 02:29 PM
And Mum only listened to classical and The Beatles. I hate The Beatles.

And where do you stand on the Ruttles?

Frankie
09-29-2010, 02:29 PM
Aliens and UFOs don't exist. There, I said it.

Aliens do. Ask me.

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:32 PM
Another night where my kids ask mom if dad's okay.

Heh. You too?

I came home to a new cat a few weeks ago. Cute critter but the little bastard keeps jumping up on the kitchen counter to get food. My wife just says, "No kitty! Bad!" So, I decided to take matter into my own hands.

I heated up some food and put it on the counter. I then surrounded the food with packing tape, sticky-side up.

I then setup the camcorder to record the hilarity. Only took about 10 minutes until I heard a kitty screech. So, I went downstairs to find a bunch of packing tape on the floor covered in kitty hair.

The family came home and I delighted in showing then the tape.

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:33 PM
And where do you stand on the Ruttles?

I've not heard of them.

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:36 PM
Aliens do. Ask me.

Ask you what, Reza?

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:36 PM
I may not be as old as some people think I am.

Age has nothing to do with it, Mr. Donger.

Now go out and buy all their CDs. And a poster or two. And a t-shirt.

FAX

stevieray
09-29-2010, 02:37 PM
Just search "ufo live studio". A whole list of songs will magically appear like an alien in the night ... "Cherry", "Profession of Violence", "Pack It Up And Go", and many more. It was a hell of a session.

They absolutely kill "Love to love". And my computer speakers suck.

FAX

too hot to handle introduced me to the band.

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:38 PM
Oh man. I'm gonna' get me some Schenker tonight. Another night where my kids ask mom if dad's okay.

Schenker (sp?) isn't playing on these studio sessions to which I am referring. It's some other cat. But fear not, he is just as fast and tons cleaner than Schenker (sp?).

FAX

Rausch
09-29-2010, 02:39 PM
Another night where my kids ask mom if dad's okay.

Man, that is not cool. It's important that your kids re-........brb.............need beer.

BIG_DADDY
09-29-2010, 02:39 PM
Well as metrolike says I'll keep god out of it.

Troy have you ever watched "a pale blue dot"?

If not do yourself a huge favor and go to YouTube and watch the full version several times right now. You had me watch David D and now I return the favor. If you listen carefully and thoughtfully it will change your view of the world and yourself. I watch it a couple times a month and each time I find it more profound. It puts in perspective so much of the insignificance of our day to day actions and helps me at least relax and understand not to take life as seriously as I once did.

I will look when I get a chance. Just so I understand, you watch this a couple times a month to help you feel more insignifcant? Doesn't sound very empowering.

BTW did you get a chance to listen to any of Dobransky? That guy seriously has his shit together.

vailpass
09-29-2010, 02:40 PM
I've not heard of them.

:eek: The Prefab Four? Creators of the Tragical History Tour?

On January 21, 1959 the Rutles story began at 43 Egg Lane, Liverpool, where Ron Nasty and Dirk McQuickly first bumped into each other. Ron invited Dirk to help him stand up. Dirk, merely an ameteur drinker, agreed and on that spot a legend was created, a legend that will last a lunchtime. They were soon to be joined by Stig O'Hara, a guitarist of no fixed hairstyle, but it would be another two years before they found their regular drummer, Barrington Womble, hiding in the van. When they did, they persuaded him to change his name to save time and his haircut to save Brylcreem. He became simply Barry Wom.

They gained their first manager, Arthur Scouse, as part of a bet (which they lost). So impressed was he with their music that he sent them immediately to Hamburg. Thinking that Hamburg was just outside Liverpool they accepted. It turned out to be not only in Germany, but in the very worst part of Germany. The Reeperbahn Hamburg is one of the naughtiest streets in the world. This is where they ended up, far from home, and far from talented...

http://www.rutles.org/rstory.html

Frankie
09-29-2010, 02:41 PM
The problem with the whole "UFO/Alien" deal is that there are so many kooks who think they've taken rides on spaceships, been abducted 500 times, and have an implant in their small toe.

Well, Mr. FAX, they gave me a choice. I was nervous and answered, " Big,...big toe." I think their inter-galactic translator heard "BIG BIG TOE." Now it really hurts when I do number one.

vailpass
09-29-2010, 02:42 PM
Schenker (sp?) isn't playing on these studio sessions to which I am referring. It's some other cat. But fear not, he is just as fast and tons cleaner than Schenker (sp?).

FAX

Its all rock and roll to me. Just texted a buddy, he's going to come over and join in the UFO-fest tonight. Anticipation is eating at me.

DMAC
09-29-2010, 02:43 PM
Have you seen some of the live studio stuff posted on Youtube, Mr. vailpass?

Cathartic chills run up and down my spine on "Love to love".

FAXSounds similar to...

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/oyvOJlX4ZkE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/oyvOJlX4ZkE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:43 PM
Age has nothing to do with it, Mr. Donger.

Now go out and buy all their CDs. And a poster or two. And a t-shirt.

FAX

No.

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:43 PM
too hot to handle introduced me to the band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3HhHdcPSZc

Guys just don't dress like that anymore.

FAX

vailpass
09-29-2010, 02:43 PM
Heh. You too?

I came home to a new cat a few weeks ago. Cute critter but the little bastard keeps jumping up on the kitchen counter to get food. My wife just says, "No kitty! Bad!" So, I decided to take matter into my own hands.

I heated up some food and put it on the counter. I then surrounded the food with packing tape, sticky-side up.

I then setup the camcorder to record the hilarity. Only took about 10 minutes until I heard a kitty screech. So, I went downstairs to find a bunch of packing tape on the floor covered in kitty hair.

The family came home and I delighted in showing then the tape.

ROFL

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:45 PM
No.

Yes.

FAX

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:46 PM
Yes.

FAX

The last CD I bought (or paid for any new music for that matter) was Tool's Aenima.

Rausch
09-29-2010, 02:47 PM
Yes.

FAX

LMAO

DMAC
09-29-2010, 02:48 PM
The last CD I bought (or paid for any new music for that matter) was Tool's Aenima.Cmon use the ALT key...

∆nima

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:49 PM
Sounds similar to...

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/oyvOJlX4ZkE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/oyvOJlX4ZkE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

There are similarities, to be sure.

I like this.

FAX

Frankie
09-29-2010, 02:49 PM
Is it too late to change the thread title to "The OFFICIAL Rock & Roll Thread?"

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:52 PM
This is they?

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/EnSdckA0fPI?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/EnSdckA0fPI?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

If so, meh.

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:52 PM
The last CD I bought (or paid for any new music for that matter) was Tool's Aenima.

And this is important because ... ?

We're talking about one of the greatest rock bands ever to emerge from the UK ... of all times.

Unfamiliarity with this band is akin to not knowing who Plato was ... or Blind Tubby "One Shoe" Thompson.

Now get your ass to the record store.

FAX

DMAC
09-29-2010, 02:53 PM
If so, meh.Uh oh...

ROFL

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:53 PM
And this is important because ... ?

We're talking about one of the greatest rock bands ever to emerge from the UK ... of all times.

Unfamiliarity with this band is akin to not knowing who Plato was ... or Blind Tubby "One Shoe" Thompson.

Now get your ass to the record store.

FAX

Because I haven't heard any music since for which I was willing to pay.

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:53 PM
This is they?

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/EnSdckA0fPI?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/EnSdckA0fPI?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

If so, meh.

Meh?

Fie on your meh.

FAX

Rausch
09-29-2010, 02:53 PM
The last CD I bought (or paid for any new music for that matter) was Tool's Aenima.

I've spent on A Perfect Circle...

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:55 PM
Because I haven't heard any music since for which I was willing to pay.

Zamfir is having a sale.

FAX

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:55 PM
Meh?

Fie on your meh.

FAX

I've never been a fan of metal, especially girlie/aren't we artist-type metal.

DMAC
09-29-2010, 02:56 PM
Because I haven't heard any music since for which I was willing to pay.I have bought all of tools albums. I used to buy all of 311's albums til they started suckin too.

Then I just said fuck it all.

Donger
09-29-2010, 02:57 PM
I've spent on A Perfect Circle...

Not a big fan, but my wife did buy me their first CD. So, since she used my money, technically that was the last CD "I" bought.

DMAC
09-29-2010, 02:58 PM
Not a big fan, but my wife did by me their first CD. So, since she used my money, technically that was the last CD "I" bought.I can see why you havent bought any more. Talk about meh.

FAX
09-29-2010, 02:59 PM
I've never been a fan of metal, especially girlie/aren't we artist-type metal.

To each his own. That's what I always say. Admittedly, for many, this type of music is an acquired taste.

Therefore, my advice to you is see if you can score some snoopy blotter acid, then try again.

FAX

Donger
09-29-2010, 03:00 PM
To each his own. That's what I always say. Admittedly, for many, this type of music is an acquired taste.

Therefore, my advice to you is see if you can score some snoopy blotter acid, then try again.

FAX

I've never used narcotics.

Donger
09-29-2010, 03:01 PM
FAX, are you the one who admonished me for not liking Elvis Costello? I think it was, but I'm not sure.

FAX
09-29-2010, 03:03 PM
I've never used narcotics.

LSD is not considered a narcotic, so you're okay there.

As for Elvis Costello, I apologize, but I don't recall that conversation ... although I do like some of his stuff. Liked him in concert at the old Opry House. How about Andy Pratt? "Avenging Annie" might be a song that you would really like ... seriously.

EDIT: I found it ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyMafOMitIs

FAX

Donger
09-29-2010, 03:11 PM
LSD is not considered a narcotic, so you're okay there.

LMAO. My ignorance exposed!

As for Elvis Costello, I apologize, but I don't recall that conversation ... although I do like some of his stuff. Liked him in concert at the old Opry House. How about Andy Pratt? "Avenging Annie" might be a song that you would really like ... seriously.

EDIT: I found it ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyMafOMitIs

FAX

It sounds like Christmas music.

Donger
09-29-2010, 03:12 PM
This is more like it:

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/68C-r9kSLNE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/68C-r9kSLNE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

FAX
09-29-2010, 03:20 PM
This is more like it:

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/68C-r9kSLNE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/68C-r9kSLNE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

If this is Celine Dion or Barbra Streisand, I ain't clicking.

FAX

Donger
09-29-2010, 03:26 PM
If this is Celine Dion or Barbra Streisand, I ain't clicking.

FAX

No, it is not. It is Kraftwerk (that's the band) and the song is Autobahn.

FAX
09-29-2010, 03:45 PM
No, it is not. It is Kraftwerk (that's the band) and the song is Autobahn.

Hmmm.

Moogish. But kinda cool. The melody line is reminiscent of the guy at WalMart promoting the blue light special on potato chips, however.

I'm more of a rock & roll, rhythm & blues, turn the amps on 11, and sweat off 5 pounds per set kind of guy, frankly.

Thanks for the link, though.

FAX

stevieray
09-29-2010, 03:46 PM
If this is Celine Dion or Barbra Streisand, I ain't clicking.

FAX

:clap:

Hydrae
09-29-2010, 04:24 PM
Did I miss it or did this press conference happen on Monday? It obviously did not make too many waves, I haven't heard about it except for this thread.

loochy
09-29-2010, 04:30 PM
Here is an excerpt from The Dulce Book (http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dulce_book.htm). This book is supposedly the account of a man that was involved in a deep government conspiracy. While completely crazy, ridiculous, and over the top, it is rather interesting and entertaining. I rofld at many parts of it.

"...There is a vast network of Tube Shuttle connections, under the U.S., which extends into a GLOBAL SYSTEM OF TUNNELS & SUB-CITIES... Note: The reptilians DO NOT consider them-selves 'Aliens'... they claim Terra [3rd from the Sun] was their home before we humans 'arrived'.

"...As a species," TAL continues, "the reptilian heritage beings [the Greys, Reptoids, Winged Draco with 2 horns -- the classic stereotype of the 'Devil']... are highly analytical & technologically oriented. They are seriously into the sciences of automation [& computers] & bio-engineering [& genetics]! However, their exploits in these areas has led to reckless experimentation, WITH TOTAL DISREGARD FOR ETHICS [moral standards] AND EMPATHY. This is also true of MANY OF THE HUMAN BEINGS WORKING WITH THEM!"

(Note: In reference to the "Winged Draco", which are considered to be near the top of the alien hierarchy, above the tall "Lizard Men" and the short 'Grays', these have also gone by the following titles: the Mothmen, Gargoyles, Winged Serpents, Pterodactoids, Ciakars or Birdmen. They seem to be exclusively deep-subterranean dwellers yet have been known to appear during massive UFO - Men In Black - Abduction waves such as that which passed through the Point Pleasant area of West Virginia as recorded in John Keel's book THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES, which suggested a possible subterranean connection near an old TNT storage area in the vicinity. The two other areas where these winged reptilians have been most often reported are of course below Dulce, New Mexica and also within the 8-levelled underground system beneath Camp Hero near Montauk Point, Long Island where a joint Nazi [American Corporate & European Militant Nazi's], Gray, and Reptiloid base exists... one that reportedly connects to the ITT center in New Jersey. The common denominator would be the German Krupp family who built munitions plants for Adolph Hitler and not only maintains a large percentage of control over ITT but also helped to finance the 'Montauk' time-space-mind-control projects for the Bavarian Thule Society, which are continuing within the M.A.L.T.A. or Montauk-Alsace-Lorraine-Time-Archives facility within the Alsace-Lorraine Mts. near the French-German border. The Alsace-Lorraine regions were taken from France in the Franco-Prussian war of the previous century and later returned to France by the Allies following the end of W.W.II. The MALTA base 'may' lie under the German territory near the border, however if it happens to lie under French soil, this may be because the base is located in one of the underground facilities constructed by the Nazi's during, before or just following W.W.II, a facility that the French did not discover following the return of the region following the war. As for the ITT center in New Jersey, it also reportedly has a connection to the national-international Sub-Global network, according to Al Bielek. Very rarely are the "winged draco" encountered on UFO's, and although at times they have been seen flying at night or in the day through the air as in the Point Pleasant manifestations, they seem to operate most often within the deepest underground levels where the Grays and Reptiloids themselves have been known to converge. - Branton)

petegz28
09-29-2010, 05:11 PM
Here is an excerpt from The Dulce Book (http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dulce_book.htm). This book is supposedly the account of a man that was involved in a deep government conspiracy. While completely crazy, ridiculous, and over the top, it is rather interesting and entertaining. I rofld at many parts of it.

:popcorn:

BIG_DADDY
09-29-2010, 05:51 PM
Well as metrolike says I'll keep god out of it.

Troy have you ever watched "a pale blue dot"?

If not do yourself a huge favor and go to YouTube and watch the full version several times right now. You had me watch David D and now I return the favor. If you listen carefully and thoughtfully it will change your view of the world and yourself. I watch it a couple times a month and each time I find it more profound. It puts in perspective so much of the insignificance of our day to day actions and helps me at least relax and understand not to take life as seriously as I once did.

Well I watched it and it didn't make me feel insignificant at all. Small maybe but not insignificant. The earth is a special place. Still interested you addressing my question at some point, if not here then IM me.

munkey
09-29-2010, 05:54 PM
I got this far:

"...There is a vast network of Tube Shuttle connections, under the U.S., which extends into a GLOBAL SYSTEM OF TUNNELS & SUB-CITIES... Note: The reptilians DO NOT consider them-selves 'Aliens'... they claim Terra [3rd from the Sun] was their home before we humans 'arrived'."

:Spock:

loochy
09-29-2010, 05:56 PM
I got this far:

"...There is a vast network of Tube Shuttle connections, under the U.S., which extends into a GLOBAL SYSTEM OF TUNNELS & SUB-CITIES... Note: The reptilians DO NOT consider them-selves 'Aliens'... they claim Terra [3rd from the Sun] was their home before we humans 'arrived'."

:Spock:

ROFL

crossbow
09-29-2010, 07:20 PM
You plan to live for a billion years until we collide with Andromeda?

Hehe, nope but my plan includes having my son inherit the house so what ever I don't need, he may be able to use. The only problem is:

If our sun expands a million times its size and burns off the Earth's atmosphere, then the planet turns into a boiling ball of rock. In which case he can move to Mars (insurance doesn't cover natural disasters).

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-29-2010, 07:33 PM
Yes, I've heard of them. Growing up, it was ELP, The Who and Tomita in our house.

My Dad's a little off.

I picture Donger in a smoking jacket with a pipe listening to Hank Marvin and the Shadows...

"Kon-Tiki" FTW!

Frankie
09-30-2010, 01:12 PM
HEY GUYS,....GUYS,....!!

UFOs and Aliens,.... remember?!

loochy
09-30-2010, 01:14 PM
I don't want aliens to come to earth because they will take away carries from Jamaal Charles.

Frankie
09-30-2010, 01:15 PM
I don't want aliens to come to earth because they will take away carries from Jamaal Charles.
:LOL:
But they might accept jobs Americans won't take.

loochy
09-30-2010, 01:17 PM
LOL
But they might accept jobs Americans won't take.

They took our jobs! Dey took er jawbs! Eh durker durrr!

Donger
09-30-2010, 01:17 PM
I picture Donger in a smoking jacket with a pipe listening to Hank Marvin and the Shadows...

"Kon-Tiki" FTW!

I've never heard of Hank Marvin and the Shadows.

tooge
09-30-2010, 01:58 PM
this was interesting news from yesterday
Odds of Life on Newfound Earth-Size Planet '100 Percent,' Astronomer Says Advertisement | ad info
.By Jeanna Bryner
Space.com
updated 9/30/2010 10:18:18 AM ET
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An Earth-size planet has been spotted orbiting a nearby star at a distance that would makes it not too hot and not too cold comfortable enough for life to exist, researchers announced today (Sept. 29).

If confirmed, the exoplanet, named Gliese 581g, would be the first Earth-like world found residing in a star's habitable zone a region where a planet's temperature could sustain liquid water on its surface. [ Illustration of planet Gliese 581g.]

And the planet's discoverers are optimistic about the prospects for finding life there.

"Personally, given the ubiquity and propensity of life to flourish wherever it can, I would say, my own personal feeling is that the chances of life on this planet are 100 percent," said Steven Vogt, a professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California, Santa Cruz, during a press briefing today. "I have almost no doubt about it."

FAX
09-30-2010, 03:02 PM
It's funny to me that Mr. Vogt seems to think that DNA springs up spontaneously like wild daffodils or Shaun Smith's opponent's erection after a good groping. For some reason, I think there may be a little more to "life" than "propensity".

FAX

loochy
09-30-2010, 03:15 PM
this was interesting news from yesterday
Odds of Life on Newfound Earth-Size Planet '100 Percent,' Astronomer Says Advertisement | ad info
.By Jeanna Bryner
Space.com
updated 9/30/2010 10:18:18 AM ET
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An Earth-size planet has been spotted orbiting a nearby star at a distance that would makes it not too hot and not too cold comfortable enough for life to exist, researchers announced today (Sept. 29).

If confirmed, the exoplanet, named Gliese 581g, would be the first Earth-like world found residing in a star's habitable zone a region where a planet's temperature could sustain liquid water on its surface. [ Illustration of planet Gliese 581g.]

And the planet's discoverers are optimistic about the prospects for finding life there.

"Personally, given the ubiquity and propensity of life to flourish wherever it can, I would say, my own personal feeling is that the chances of life on this planet are 100 percent," said Steven Vogt, a professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California, Santa Cruz, during a press briefing today. "I have almost no doubt about it."

I can't stand how scientists think that life always requires water. Why couldn't life spring up and thrive on some other random compound? Sure, everything HERE requires water, but why are they closed minded about other types of life?

DMAC
09-30-2010, 03:17 PM
I can't stand how scientists think that life always requires water. Why couldn't life spring up and thrive on some other random compound? Sure, everything HERE requires water, but why are they closed minded about other types of life?They dont think that.

There is life here that does not require water.

FAX
09-30-2010, 03:18 PM
I can't stand how scientists think that life always requires water. Why couldn't life spring up and thrive on some other random compound? Sure, everything HERE requires water, but why are they closed minded about other types of life?

I've pondered this question incessantly, Mr. loochy, and have come to the conclusion that it's because all scientists are splooge-based.

FAX

Delano
09-30-2010, 03:23 PM
this was interesting news from yesterday
Odds of Life on Newfound Earth-Size Planet '100 Percent,' Astronomer Says Advertisement | ad info
.By Jeanna Bryner
Space.com
updated 9/30/2010 10:18:18 AM ET
Share Print Font: +-This story was updated at 8:58 p.m. ET.

An Earth-size planet has been spotted orbiting a nearby star at a distance that would makes it not too hot and not too cold comfortable enough for life to exist, researchers announced today (Sept. 29).

If confirmed, the exoplanet, named Gliese 581g, would be the first Earth-like world found residing in a star's habitable zone a region where a planet's temperature could sustain liquid water on its surface. [ Illustration of planet Gliese 581g.]

And the planet's discoverers are optimistic about the prospects for finding life there.

"Personally, given the ubiquity and propensity of life to flourish wherever it can, I would say, my own personal feeling is that the chances of life on this planet are 100 percent," said Steven Vogt, a professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California, Santa Cruz, during a press briefing today. "I have almost no doubt about it."

Greg Callaghan
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AFTER you've spent more than 20 years hunting for an alien signal, you think you'd be celebrating if you noticed a mysterious pulse suddenly rising up on your computer readouts. A regular pulse, amid the random clatter of the cosmos, suggests that someone very smart at the other end is sending a message.
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But when Ragbir Bhathal, an astrophysicist at the University of Western Sydney, who teaches the only university-based course on SETI (search for extraterrestrial intelligence) in Australia, detected the suspicious signal on a clear night last December, he knew better than to crack open the special bottle of champagne he has tucked away for the history-making occasion.

Instead, he's spent the past few months meticulously investigating whether the unrecognised signature was caused by a glitch in his instrumentation, a rogue astrophysical phenomenon, or some unknown random noise.

Even if he picks up the signal again - he's been scouring the same co-ordinates of the night sky on an almost daily basis since - the scientific rule book dictates he'll need to get it peer-reviewed before he can take his announcement to the world. "And that is a lot of ifs," he concedes.

<!-- // .story-sidebar -->The hunt for extraterrestrial life has been boosted recently by the discovery last month of a rocky world not unlike our own, about 20 light years away, which its Swiss discoverers have dubbed Gliese 581e, the latest in a long line of planet discoveries during the past decade (350 and counting).

Although Gliese 581e is too close to its host sun to support life, it's the first planet believed to be rocky like our own, a kind of super-hot Earth quite unlike the long line of gas and ice giants discovered to date.

With the launch of NASA's Kepler space telescope in March, specifically designed to detect smaller Earth-like planets, astronomers are confident that the discovery of a blue planet, orbiting in the so-called Goldilocks zone, where liquid water can support life, is edging closer by the day. But it will still be up to ground-based telescopes to confirm the mass of the planet, as space-based telescopes such as the Kepler can only yield its approximate diameter.

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Donger
09-30-2010, 03:25 PM
What does all this have to do with self-absorbed metal bands?

Inspector
09-30-2010, 03:32 PM
It is my firm belief that the smell of bacon sizzling in the frying pan is what draws the aliens to our planet.

DMAC
09-30-2010, 03:57 PM
It is my firm belief that the smell of bacon sizzling in the frying pan is what draws the aliens to our planet.They dont have bacon in mexico?

Frankie
09-30-2010, 10:59 PM
They dont have bacon in mexico?

Good one.