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googlegoogle
09-27-2010, 01:28 PM
Said we need to find ways for them to shove off to get open.

That's why we don't air it out. That's why Cassel looks bad.

Next draft we need a receiver.

Buehler445
09-27-2010, 01:30 PM
LOL WUT
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'Hamas' Jenkins
09-27-2010, 01:30 PM
That's bullfuck. I will say that Chris Chambers is making a run for offensive LVP. Of course, he got paid, so that's to be expected.

KCUnited
09-27-2010, 01:31 PM
FWIW, he was saying the exact same thing last season as well.

RustShack
09-27-2010, 01:31 PM
Imagine if we had a true elite #1 receiver to go with bowe, mccluster, moeaki, and our running game.

DaneMcCloud
09-27-2010, 01:31 PM
That's bullfuck. I will say that Chris Chambers is making a run for offensive LVP. Of course, he got paid, so that's to be expected.

And he married his stalker (which was the reason he was dumped in San Diego - too much drama).

Reerun_KC
09-27-2010, 01:32 PM
Not again....

Chiefs Pantalones
09-27-2010, 01:32 PM
It's half. The times I've seen WRs open, Cassel has gotten nailed. The times I've seen Cassel with time, he wouldn't hit the open man. It's not all one's fault.

DeezNutz
09-27-2010, 01:33 PM
Fuck. Can't we just enjoy being 3-0? Have you ever tried to get separation from an NFL CB or been a HC or GM of an NFL team? Sad.

Dave Lane
09-27-2010, 01:34 PM
That's bull****. I will say that Chris Chambers is making a run for offensive LVP. Of course, he got paid, so that's to be expected.

Its funny he caught a pass Sunday and I thought who the hell is 84? He's been invisible.

BigChiefFan
09-27-2010, 01:36 PM
Adding a Vincent Jackson to this offense would keep OC's up at night.

Hug it Out Dan
09-27-2010, 01:36 PM
I would say the next draft we need to look at WR.

As well as LB, OL, DL, and QB

suds79
09-27-2010, 01:38 PM
****. Can't we just enjoy being 3-0? Have you ever tried to get separation from an NFL CB or been a HC or GM of an NFL team? Sad.

Just because people are talking about parts of the team that could be improved doesn't mean we're not happy to be 3-0.

Just sayin.

Molitoth
09-27-2010, 01:38 PM
Cassel has had numerous attempts at hitting open receivers, but the ball sails way over thier heads.

Dante84
09-27-2010, 01:38 PM
I would say the next draft we need to look at WR.

As well as LB, OL, DL, and QB

It's nice that the list is getting smaller

Pitt Gorilla
09-27-2010, 01:40 PM
This has been a fairly evident problem for the past two years. We need a #1 WR.

DeezNutz
09-27-2010, 01:40 PM
Just because people are talking about parts of the team that could be improved doesn't mean we're not happy to be 3-0.

Just sayin.

I could be wrong, but it's tough to improve upon 3-0.

Constant bitching. I don't even want to participate in this thread. Why are you all talking about this?

DaneMcCloud
09-27-2010, 01:40 PM
Fuck. Can't we just enjoy being 3-0? Have you ever tried to get separation from an NFL CB or been a HC or GM of an NFL team? Sad.

LMAO

Reerun_KC
09-27-2010, 01:41 PM
This has been a fairly evident problem for the past two years. We need a #1 WR.

This...

Bowe is not a #1....

clyde05
09-27-2010, 01:47 PM
hughes is just mad because he could never get open

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-27-2010, 01:50 PM
We don't need a true #1 WR, we need a true franchise QB and a WR who can stretch the field vertically. A Johnny Knox or Mike Wallace would round out this offense just fine from a skill position standpoint.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-27-2010, 01:51 PM
Larry Fitzgerald looks like shit when Derek Anderson is throwing him passes.

It's not a coincidence.

OnTheWarpath58
09-27-2010, 01:52 PM
We don't need a true #1 WR, we need a true franchise QB and a WR who can stretch the field vertically. A Johnny Knox or Mike Wallace would round out this offense just fine from a skill position standpoint.

Larry Fitzgerald looks like shit when Derek Anderson is throwing him passes.

It's not a coincidence.

These.

DeezNutz
09-27-2010, 01:53 PM
We don't need a true #1 WR, we need a true franchise QB and a WR who can stretch the field vertically. A Johnny Knox or Mike Wallace would round out this offense just fine from a skill position standpoint.

How the fuck are we going to come up with one of these? We're fucked.

Deberg_1990
09-27-2010, 01:55 PM
Yep....Danan Hughes knows all about below average WR's

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-27-2010, 01:56 PM
How the fuck are we going to come up with one of these? We're fucked.

Trade our 2nd and 3rd round draft picks in the 2011 draft. They aren't worth anything, anyway.

Pitt Gorilla
09-27-2010, 02:08 PM
Trade our 2nd and 3rd round draft picks in the 2011 draft. They aren't worth anything, anyway.:spock:

Tuckdaddy
09-27-2010, 02:20 PM
I've been saying this since last season. It's 2001 all over again witn Trent. He also got blamed for everything becasue our WR's have no speed to separate. If they did then they would get open. Fire Chambers and put a young speedster out there and you'll see a difference.

DeezNutz
09-27-2010, 02:21 PM
Trade our 2nd and 3rd round draft picks in the 2011 draft. They aren't worth anything, anyway.

Not quite worthless; there's a 2.5% chance of getting a halfway decent gunner.

But you're now posting like a real fan. Definitely worthy of a Chiefs hat with the long gold and red tassels that hung down like a braid mullet.

Chocolate Hog
09-27-2010, 02:24 PM
If we draft Blaine Gabbert this team will win 8 super bowls

Tuckdaddy
09-27-2010, 02:25 PM
Larry Fitzgerald looks like shit when Derek Anderson is throwing him passes.

It's not a coincidence.

WTF are you talking about? Besides the flee flicker when have you seen a WR of ours catch a ball and not get nailed right after? It doesn't happen because they are as slow as Betty White.

DeezNutz
09-27-2010, 02:27 PM
WTF are you talking about? Besides the flee flicker when have you seen a WR of ours catch a ball and not get nailed right after? It doesn't happen because they are as slow as Betty White.

McCluster.

Bowe has been decent in KC, but he can perform only with sub-par QBs at the helm. Once we "improved" that position, it made sense that he fell off a bit.

Douche Baggins
09-27-2010, 02:28 PM
As soon as Tony Gonzalez left, our wide receivers stopped getting open.

Food for thought.

DeezNutz
09-27-2010, 02:29 PM
As soon as Tony Gonzalez left, our wide receivers stopped getting open.

Food for thought.

Such bullshit.

Hell, didn't you gif up a wide the fuck open Bowe just last week?

Douche Baggins
09-27-2010, 02:33 PM
Such bullshit.

Hell, didn't you gif up a wide the fuck open Bowe just last week?

Oh, that's true.

But I don't think Danan Hughes would lie to support Cassel would you? Is he dumb? He's at the games, he sees the secondary.

Gonzalez affected coverage every week.

Bowe has fallen off since Gonzalez left, and Chambers is getting old. WR tend to fall off a cliff dramatically when they get old.

I wouldn't just dismiss Hughes' comments.

DeezNutz
09-27-2010, 02:36 PM
Oh, that's true.

But I don't think Danan Hughes would lie to support Cassel would you? Is he dumb? He's at the games, he sees the secondary.

Gonzalez affected coverage every week.

Bowe has fallen off since Gonzalez left, and Chambers is getting old. WR tend to fall off a cliff dramatically when they get old.

I wouldn't just dismiss Hughes' comments.

I'd say it's entirely possible that he's a ****ing moron, though that doesn't have to dismiss his point.

Whenever you take away a talent like Gonzo, there will necessarily be a drop off. Dude always demanded double-teams. But "stopped getting open"? Disagree.

Douche Baggins
09-27-2010, 02:39 PM
Bowe is the biggest threat we have in the passing game. Teams stopped rolling safeties to Gonzalez and started rolling them to Bowe.

It's entirely possible it fucked his shit up.

I really don't like dismissing comments about our wide receivers made by former NFL wide receivers, even if they made a career out of playing punt gunner.

Just Passin' By
09-27-2010, 02:40 PM
This has been the case since last year.

Chocolate Hog
09-27-2010, 02:42 PM
If we had TJ Moe in there Bowe would be getting open. That guy is like Jordan Shipley.

dirk digler
09-27-2010, 02:44 PM
It is not a real shocking statement considering we don't have any speed guys except McCluster. And maybe it is just me but it seems he lines up alot in the backfield as a RB then he does in the slot.

DeezNutz
09-27-2010, 02:46 PM
This has been the case since last year.

Hmm...this time frame seems to coincide with something else, too.

dirk digler
09-27-2010, 02:48 PM
Bowe is the biggest threat we have in the passing game. Teams stopped rolling safeties to Gonzalez and started rolling them to Bowe.

It's entirely possible it fucked his shit up.

I really don't like dismissing comments about our wide receivers made by former NFL wide receivers, even if they made a career out of playing punt gunner.

Bowe is slow as molasses. You never see that guy run free ever.

Mr. Laz
09-27-2010, 02:50 PM
its "D, All of the above"

sometimes:
the Oline doesn't protect well
the WR's don't get open
Cassel doesn't see the open guy
Cassel can't make the throw to an open guy
the WR's drop the ball when he does make the throw

you rotate all these things and the passing game is going to be inconsistent as fuck

you can also throw in a game plan that gets conservative because of all those problems so it gives less opportunities in general.

Douche Baggins
09-27-2010, 02:51 PM
Bowe is slow as molasses. You never see that guy run free ever.

He beat a lot of single coverage when Gonzalez was here.

He had a terrific rookie season and his 08 was pretty good.

I'm not saying Cassel doesn't contribute to his problems but....

dirk digler
09-27-2010, 02:55 PM
He beat a lot of single coverage when Gonzalez was here.

He had a terrific rookie season and his 08 was pretty good.

I'm not saying Cassel doesn't contribute to his problems but....

He is a possession receiver. he is never going to break any long ones unless the whole D falls down and can't get back up.

Douche Baggins
09-27-2010, 02:56 PM
He is a possession receiver. he is never going to break any long ones unless the whole D falls down and can't get back up.

There's nothing wrong with that. Cris Carter was a possession receiver.

Right now Bowe isn't even a good possession receiver. He has 7 catches in three games.

dirk digler
09-27-2010, 03:02 PM
There's nothing wrong with that. Cris Carter was a possession receiver.

Right now Bowe isn't even a good possession receiver. He has 7 catches in three games.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with it but in today's NFL in order to be a true #1 you have to be a game breaker and he is not.

Douche Baggins
09-27-2010, 03:08 PM
I didn't say there was anything wrong with it but in today's NFL in order to be a true #1 you have to be a game breaker and he is not.

See, I'm not even concerned about that.

All I want from Bowe is 70 catches for 1,000 yards.

Right now he's on pace for about 600 yards.

Mecca
09-27-2010, 03:09 PM
Chambers is right back to where he was before...good on his rookie contract, gets paid goes blah, is blah in San Diego..good here then re-signs and blah again.

I'd like to draft a WR but I'm not expecting to be in position for that now.

Mr. Laz
09-27-2010, 03:13 PM
There's nothing wrong with that. Cris Carter was a possession receiver.

Right now Bowe isn't even a good possession receiver. He has 7 catches in three games.
tbh part of that is because we didn't throw at all the 1st game and didn't throw much the 2nd.

If we add some speed to press the safeties it would help Bowe alot.

we still have to take our shots deep to force the defense to play honest.

dirk digler
09-27-2010, 03:13 PM
See, I'm not even concerned about that.

All I want from Bowe is 70 catches for 1,000 yards.

Right now he's on pace for about 600 yards.

And about 35 catches. God that is pathetic for supposedly your #1 WR.

Mecca
09-27-2010, 03:16 PM
And about 35 catches. God that is pathetic for supposedly your #1 WR.

We're never going to have a prolific passing game with this QB, just get use to it for awhile.

Psyko Tek
09-27-2010, 03:17 PM
Cassel has had numerous attempts at hitting open receivers, but the ball sails way over thier heads.

So, you are saying we need to draft REALLY TALL wide receivers

Chocolate Hog
09-27-2010, 03:18 PM
I'd like to see them develope Horne he's got the size and speed.

googlegoogle
09-27-2010, 03:20 PM
Dwayne lost too much weight?

Deberg_1990
09-27-2010, 03:20 PM
I'd like to draft a WR but I'm not expecting to be in position for that now.

Yes because no good WR's are ever found below the 1st round.

dirk digler
09-27-2010, 03:20 PM
We're never going to have a prolific passing game with this QB, just get use to it for awhile.

I would think Bowe would be perfect for Cassel considering how big he is and is not like they are going to ask Bowe to run the go route.

dirk digler
09-27-2010, 03:20 PM
I'd like to see them develope Horne he's got the size and speed.

I agree

Mecca
09-27-2010, 03:21 PM
Yes because no good WR's are ever found below the 1st round.

Way to take what I said completely out of context, we all know what the WR 1st round class looks like this coming year.

OnTheWarpath58
09-27-2010, 03:49 PM
Bowe is the biggest threat we have in the passing game. Teams stopped rolling safeties to Gonzalez and started rolling them to Bowe.

It's entirely possible it fucked his shit up.

I really don't like dismissing comments about our wide receivers made by former NFL wide receivers, even if they made a career out of playing punt gunner.

You've seen two games live at Arrowhead from the best vantage point in the house.

You'd be lying if you said you haven't seen several instances in each of those games where at least one WR - sometimes more - running open, only to have Cassel throw the ball elsewhere.

I've seen it. You've seen it. Flopnuts has seen it. ChiefsCountry has seen it.

It's not coincidence.

Phobia
09-27-2010, 03:50 PM
I'd say it's entirely possible that he's a ****ing moron, though that doesn't have to dismiss his point.

Whenever you take away a talent like Gonzo, there will necessarily be a drop off. Dude always demanded double-teams. But "stopped getting open"? Disagree.

No, Danan is not a moron. But he is a guy who focuses on the positive and tries to encourage players. He's been saying this for a long time. I'd think he should know.

chop
09-27-2010, 03:58 PM
hughes is just mad because he could never get open

I was going to say this :D. The shoe's on the other foot now baby!

Dave Lane
09-27-2010, 04:15 PM
I could be wrong, but it's tough to improve upon 3-0.

Constant bitching. I don't even want to participate in this thread. Why are you all talking about this?

I guess for the same reason some people want to talk about JC not getting enough carries in a blowout win. Who knows makes no sense.

Rausch
09-27-2010, 04:20 PM
I would think Bowe would be perfect for Cassel considering how big he is and is not like they are going to ask Bowe to run the go route.

Problem is Bowe couldn't catch the AIDS with two gallons of lube and a sash in San Fran...

-King-
09-27-2010, 04:25 PM
Fuck. Can't we just enjoy being 3-0? Have you ever tried to get separation from an NFL CB or been a HC or GM of an NFL team? Sad.

Jeez, you really love this sarcastic bit huh? :facepalm:

Mr. Laz
09-27-2010, 04:39 PM
Jeez, you really love this sarcastic bit huh? :facepalm:
much like Shaun Smith, he has an addicktion

Mr. Laz
09-27-2010, 04:40 PM
isn't this Bowe's contract year? Will we give keep him?

Haley doesn't seem to think much of him