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Direckshun
10-08-2010, 10:54 AM
Here's an amusing thought experiment:

The Colts and the Chiefs swap QBs, because God hates the Colts or something.

Nothing else on either team changes.

What's the Chiefs record, what's the Colts record.

Go.
milkman
10-08-2010, 10:57 AM
The Chiefs would be eleventy billion and 0.
OnTheWarpath15
10-08-2010, 10:58 AM
Chiefs: 12-4. Peyton Manning plus a running game? Hell, 4 losses may be too many.

Colts: 5-11. The Colts greatest strength is their TE/WR. Without a running game, and with the injuries they have on defense, 5 wins might be pushing it.
4th and Long
10-08-2010, 10:58 AM
The Chiefs would be eleventy billion and 0.
Eleventy billion and 3. Your math skills suck. :D
Hammock Parties
10-08-2010, 10:59 AM
Dwayne Bowe would explode.
sedated
10-08-2010, 11:07 AM
Chiefs: 15-1
Colts: 0-16
Molitoth
10-08-2010, 11:10 AM
Chiefs: 15-1
Colts: 0-16

This.
DeezNutz
10-08-2010, 11:12 AM
stupid. the team is 3-0 and people still are not satisfied. worry when the team loses a game.
Mr. Laz
10-08-2010, 11:17 AM
How much does the shadow of Manning hurt the development of a team's running game? How much real effort does a team dedicate to a running game with Manning on the team?
The Franchise
10-08-2010, 11:20 AM
Dwayne Bowe would explode.

Just think what would happen to Moeaki and McCluster.
RealSNR
10-08-2010, 11:23 AM
How much does the shadow of Manning hurt the development of a team's running game? How much real effort does a team dedicate to a running game with Manning on the team?Dunno. Let's ask Edgerrin James
Rain Man
10-08-2010, 01:20 PM
My guess is that we'd still be 3-0. I don't think Manning is that much of a downgrade.
DaFace
10-08-2010, 01:20 PM
I'm not sure my brain could comprehend that level of success.
threebag
10-08-2010, 01:25 PM
Just think how tired our defense would be. With 3 and 4 play 90 yrd drives by the offense they would get no rest.
beach tribe
10-08-2010, 01:27 PM
stupid. the team is 3-0 and people still are not satisfied. worry when the team loses a game.

It's just fantasy bro. Chill.

To be serious though, we are winning in spite of Cassel. Man I hope either Wies can make something out of him, or he just shits the bed. Something's gotta give. If he doesn't raise his game, we're gonna have to get another QB. He's gonna hold us back from taking the biggest step.
Chief Chief
10-08-2010, 01:39 PM
Chiefs: 13-3
Colts: 8-8
CupidStunt
10-08-2010, 01:42 PM
Colts would be lucky to get 5 wins.

KC would cruise to 11+.
ElGringo
10-08-2010, 01:42 PM
It's just fantasy bro. Chill.

To be serious though, we are winning in spite of Cassel. Man I hope either Wies can make something out of him, or he just shits the bed. Something's gotta give. If he doesn't raise his game, we're gonna have to get another QB. He's gonna hold us back from taking the biggest step.

I believe this is the problem with winning right now, we are winning in spite of Cassel. If we keep doing this, and possibly even make the playoffs with Cassel playing this way, the higher ups will say "See, he is good enough" and not worry about upgrading.
DeezNutz
10-08-2010, 01:43 PM
I believe this is the problem with winning right now, we are winning in spite of Cassel. If we keep doing this, and possibly even make the playoffs with Cassel playing this way, the higher ups will say "See, he is good enough" and not worry about upgrading.

If we're winning and enjoying success, what would be the point of changing? Leadership and chemistry mean nothing?
RealSNR
10-08-2010, 02:03 PM
If we're winning and enjoying success, what would be the point of changing? Leadership and chemistry mean nothing?People are just upset because this team can't and won't win gracefully. There are multiple ways to win games in this league, and if we've found one successful method, why switch? You only risk messing shit up.
DeezNutz
10-08-2010, 02:23 PM
People are just upset because this team can't and won't win gracefully. There are multiple ways to win games in this league, and if we've found one successful method, why switch? You only risk messing shit up.

Ain't broke, don't fix it. I'll take a stout D and power running game any day of the week.
Mr. Flopnuts
10-08-2010, 02:41 PM
If we're winning and enjoying success, what would be the point of changing? Leadership and chemistry mean nothing?

Exactly. So that being the case, Carl Peterson would still be the President and GM of The Kansas City Chiefs.
Mecca
10-08-2010, 02:44 PM
This idea that Manning killed their running game is overdone, it's just now their RB's/running game isn't very good and he knows it.
Direckshun
10-08-2010, 02:55 PM
stupid. the team is 3-0 and people still are not satisfied. worry when the team loses a game.

If we're winning and enjoying success, what would be the point of changing? Leadership and chemistry mean nothing?

Ain't broke, don't fix it. I'll take a stout D and power running game any day of the week.

Seriously, the reverse psychology thing is wearing out quick.
DeezNutz
10-08-2010, 03:07 PM
Seriously, the reverse psychology thing is wearing out quick.

Reverse psychology?

There have been plenty of posts to this effect over the last couple weeks. I've simply been convinced by the stronger argument.
Demonpenz
10-08-2010, 03:21 PM
with peyton you are a superbowl contender
Hug it Out Dan
10-08-2010, 03:24 PM
Trading Cassel for Manning makes the Colts a 4 win team at best. Probably worse than that. The reason they're winning games at all right now is because Manning is a badass.
Chiefaholic
10-08-2010, 03:54 PM
I believe this is the problem with winning right now, we are winning in spite of Cassel. If we keep doing this, and possibly even make the playoffs with Cassel playing this way, the higher ups will say "See, he is good enough" and not worry about upgrading.

Yet, he's paid like an elite QB and playing like a damn undrafted rookie FA. If he doesn't startr playing up to his pay scale, they're not keeping him around and paying him his roster bonus.
Direckshun
10-08-2010, 03:59 PM
Reverse psychology?

There have been plenty of posts to this effect over the last couple weeks. I've simply been convinced by the stronger argument.

Once again.
Chiefaholic
10-08-2010, 03:59 PM
Ain't broke, don't fix it. I'll take a stout D and power running game any day of the week.

And come playoff time, you're down 6 points with 2 minutes on the clock. The D's on the sideline and the running game's not a realistic option. Do you have faith in Cassell to complete multiple consecutive passes and win the game for us? The win now, pay later approach has kept this team out of the Superbowl for fourty damn years.
Deberg_1990
10-08-2010, 04:02 PM
No idea, ill let you know in 6 years when the Chiefs sign Manning as a 40 year old free agent.
Pasta Little Brioni
10-08-2010, 04:17 PM
No idea, ill let you know in 6 years when the Chiefs trade a 1st for Manning as a 40 year old .

FYP :D
Valiant
10-08-2010, 05:22 PM
People are just upset because this team can't and won't win gracefully. There are multiple ways to win games in this league, and if we've found one successful method, why switch? You only risk messing shit up.

Really?? We won tons of games in the 90's but that method always failed in the playoffs..

Does everyone honestly believe this team can win a playoff game right now with Cassle??

As to the OP, Chiefs would be light years better..

As for Indy's WR's I do think much of them if Peyton is not throwing the ball to them.. He is one of the few QBs around the league that makes people look better then what they are..

Too bad he cannot make his own defense look better..
Pioli Zombie
10-08-2010, 05:27 PM
"If Cassel doesn't start playing better....". Um, and what's his qb rating over the last 6 quarters?
-King-
10-08-2010, 07:26 PM
Caught this question on ChiefsPlanet earlier today: If the Chiefs had Peyton Manning, what would their record be this year? about 5 hours ago via web

http://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/26783585803
Direckshun
10-08-2010, 08:01 PM
Caught this question on ChiefsPlanet earlier today: If the Chiefs had Peyton Manning, what would their record be this year? about 5 hours ago via web

http://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/26783585803

I'm BFFs (blog friends forever) with the Thorman clan.
-King-
10-08-2010, 08:56 PM
I'm BFFs (blog friends forever) with the Thorman clan.

Oh, I just thought he just took a peek in here and just liked this topic.
Mama Hip Rockets
10-08-2010, 10:52 PM
Chiefs would be 16-0 with Manning.
Saccopoo
10-08-2010, 11:34 PM
Here's an amusing thought experiment:

The Colts and the Chiefs swap QBs, because God hates the Colts or something.

Nothing else on either team changes.

What's the Chiefs record, what's the Colts record.

Go.

Holy shit. Did you overdose on shrooms or something tonight?
Sweet Daddy Hate
10-08-2010, 11:49 PM
The Chiefs would be eleventy billion and 0.

Concur.
Rain Man
10-09-2010, 08:42 PM
Just think how tired our defense would be. With 3 and 4 play 90 yrd drives by the offense they would get no rest.


Yeah, I know Herm was really concerned about this when he took over Vermeil's offense. The first thing he addressed was the offense's propensity to score.
the Talking Can
10-09-2010, 08:46 PM
switch sanchez for cassel and the chiefs are the best young team in the league

a #1 WR and a nt/lb away from being built for 5 years....
Spott
10-09-2010, 09:03 PM
Chiefs 12-4, Colts 2-14.
Sweet Daddy Hate
10-10-2010, 04:15 AM
switch sanchez for cassel and the chiefs are the best young team in the league

a #1 WR and a nt/lb away from being built for 5 years....

This...

waffle tastes good.:p