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The Bad Guy
10-13-2010, 08:17 PM
Because we have a ton of cash left, I think I would try to get him.

Apparently, the Chargers have to cut him in a few weeks.

The Chiefs need a rush presence (I know Merriman has been substandard), but AJ Smith makes a lot of mistakes letting players go, and maybe Romeo can get at least something out of him.

Thoughts?

manjy90
10-13-2010, 08:19 PM
Dude hasn't been a factor since they took him off the roids. His best chance of survival is going to NE or Den where they just happen to look away when guys piss into the cups.

58-4ever
10-13-2010, 08:20 PM
Dude hasn't been a factor since they took him off the roids. His best chance of survival is going to NE or Den where they just happen to look away when guys piss into the cups.

like this and like that and uh..... just chill, to the next episode.....

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-13-2010, 08:23 PM
He might have something to prove since he's playing for a contract, but if we did it, I'd hope he played out of his mind, so I could immediately slap a tag on him and then ship his ass off for a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

The Bad Guy
10-13-2010, 08:25 PM
He might have something to prove since he's playing for a contract, but if we did it, I'd hope he played out of his mind, so I could immediately slap a tag on him and then ship his ass off for a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Agreed on that.

I just don't see the downside to getting him in 5-6 weeks and putting him opposite Tamba on obvious passing plays.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-13-2010, 08:29 PM
Agreed on that.

I just don't see the downside to getting him in 5-6 weeks and putting him opposite Tamba on obvious passing plays.

There isn't.

If he doesn't work out, just cut his ass. That said, it would run counter to their "character" message, but so does Shaun Smith...

RustShack
10-13-2010, 08:36 PM
I thought they were putting him on the IR? Why do they have to cut him?

yhf
10-13-2010, 08:38 PM
I would rather bring in Tila Tequila. She would stand a better chance of having a positive effect on our schedule. Raiders fans would get caught up throwing batteries and cups of piss at her and let our players go unscathed.

Bwana
10-13-2010, 08:39 PM
Simple answer........no.

Buck
10-13-2010, 08:39 PM
I thought they were putting him on the IR? Why do they have to cut him?

Apparently there is a "Minor-Injury" IR that lasts 6 weeks, but you have to cut him at the end of it.

teedubya
10-13-2010, 08:40 PM
I say yes, just to get more crying Charger fan videos.

RustShack
10-13-2010, 08:41 PM
Shawne Merriman is done in San Diego
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 13, 2010 12:54 PM ET
The Chargers will no longer wait for Shawne Merriman to get healthy.

The team placed him on injured reserve on Wednesday with a calf injury. They did so with a "minor-injury designation," which means its less than a six-week injury. When Merriman is healthy, the team has to release him.

This will surely end Merriman's tumultuous six-year run in San Diego. He was the AP defensive rookie of the year in 2005, and a first-team All Pro in 2006. Merriman has never truly rebounded from reconstructive surgery in 2008.

At the time, there was some concern Merriman's career could be over. He returned in 2009, but hasn't looked like the same guy he used to be. Merriman only has five tackles in three games this season. He's struggled to stay healthy after missing much of training camp for a misguided holdout.

Merriman will find work again, but he's not close to getting a big contract until he proves he can be healthy and productive again.

RustShack
10-13-2010, 08:41 PM
Adalious Thomas is still out there too!

DeezNutz
10-13-2010, 08:41 PM
There is very little risk and the potential for much upside. Organizations should make these kinds of moves every single time.

Jerm
10-13-2010, 08:42 PM
He'd def. be motivated to prove the Chargers wrong...that might be the deciding factor for me.

I'd strongly consider it...low risk/high reward.

BossChief
10-13-2010, 08:43 PM
I would.

Low risk high reward.

That said, I dont know much about him off the field, except for his roid use. If that is all it was, I would give him a shot.

cardken
10-13-2010, 08:44 PM
There isn't.

If he doesn't work out, just cut his ass. That said, it would run counter to their "character" message, but so does Shaun Smith...

The Chiefs really need to get past this. I'm not saying we need to employ all the thugs in the NFL, but thinking you are going to field all "choir boys", all the time is unrealistic in the world we live in today. No downside, works out great, trade bait, if not cut no harm no foul.

Mecca
10-13-2010, 08:49 PM
There's basically no risk, what one of the 82 MLBs like Justin Cole gets released to make a spot?

FAX
10-13-2010, 08:49 PM
I'm tired of people saying that Shaun Smith is somehow an individual of "low character". Nobody wants to text somebody a picture of their bruised, battered, bloody, and half-torn-off, dangly wang.

Shaun Smith is doing everything he can to protect the female sideline reporters in this league and, for that, society owes him a huge debt.

FAX

ChiefsCountry
10-13-2010, 08:52 PM
I bet he ends up in New England.

BossChief
10-13-2010, 08:56 PM
Think of it like this....what if he returns to like, say 80% of form from the past once his knee is fully healed?

He would have a chance at being an equal pass rushing force as Hali and it would mean our OLBs are set...even for depth. With the emergence of DJ and Belcher...that would mean our linebacker are pretty damn close to set.

With our secondary playing the way it is, that means our defense is one great NT short of being damn close to set across the board.

That means that we can do what it takes to trade the farm to get up for a true #1 quarterback and #1 WR and find a center and we are REALLY close to being a true elite team moving forward.

Not saying Merriman could cure everything, but he could be one hell of a big step forward if he would work out. Plus, we would have a really motivated player twice per year.

Mecca
10-13-2010, 08:59 PM
It would be worth it even if he just played on passing downs with his hand on the ground.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-13-2010, 09:22 PM
Can I just pick up an STD instead? Thx!

teedubya
10-13-2010, 09:24 PM
not gonna happen

OnTheWarpath58
10-13-2010, 09:26 PM
You'd be an idiot not to. Zero risk, high potential reward.

But it won't happen, for two reasons:

He's not "Right 53" material.

Vrabel gets the Cassel treatment - not coming off the field unless injured.

LaChapelle
10-13-2010, 09:34 PM
The tip on his arrow broke off
all that's left is the shaft

DaneMcCloud
10-13-2010, 09:36 PM
I think this is a tough question to answer at this point. Merriman hasn't been healthy since 2007. That's a long time ago.

Also, I think the Chiefs would need to evaluate their team chemistry at that point. The Chiefs will have played 10 games at that point of his release and if the defense continues to play well, they probably won't want to run the risk of upsetting the lockerroom and on-field vibe. Merriman isn't exactly a quiet choirboy.

Plus, I don't think he's got anything left in the tank. IF he does, I could see him with the Jets in their effort to win the Super Bowl this year.

Thig Lyfe
10-13-2010, 09:36 PM
I hate that motherfucker, but if he came in and made a difference I'd be ecstatic.

I have a feeling he's permanently broken, though.

Short Leash Hootie
10-13-2010, 09:39 PM
Merriman is done...anyone who thinks otherwise is .... dumb.

Coach
10-13-2010, 09:59 PM
I think this is a tough question to answer at this point. Merriman hasn't been healthy since 2007. That's a long time ago.

Also, I think the Chiefs would need to evaluate their team chemistry at that point. The Chiefs will have played 10 games at that point of his release and if the defense continues to play well, they probably won't want to run the risk of upsetting the lockerroom and on-field vibe. Merriman isn't exactly a quiet choirboy.

Plus, I don't think he's got anything left in the tank. IF he does, I could see him with the Jets in their effort to win the Super Bowl this year.

That's how I see it. To me, he just wasn't the same player after he had that knee surgery. I'm not sure what are the positives that he brings to the table after suffering a major knee injury.

RedThat
10-13-2010, 10:00 PM
Merriman is done...anyone who thinks otherwise is .... dumb.

I agree. After his injury, he's never bounced back.

luv
10-13-2010, 10:02 PM
No thanks.

TheGuardian
10-13-2010, 10:09 PM
You guys are ****ign stupid.

The guy has shown NOTHING since he's been suspended for PED's. WTF would bringing him in do? Nothing. Take up playing time from Studebaker. Doesn't seem like a good idea.

But hey you bitches have gotten soooo much right when it comes to this shit I suppose bringing Merriman in seems like a great ****ing idea /rolls mother ****ing eyes at dumbass bitches who thinks signing him seems low risk high reward and shit like that.

BIG_DADDY
10-13-2010, 10:26 PM
You guys are ****ign stupid.

The guy has shown NOTHING since he's been suspended for PED's. WTF would bringing him in do? Nothing. Take up playing time from Studebaker. Doesn't seem like a good idea.

But hey you bitches have gotten soooo much right when it comes to this shit I suppose bringing Merriman in seems like a great ****ing idea /rolls mother ****ing eyes at dumbass bitches who thinks signing him seems low risk high reward and shit like that.

Vick scenario with less upside.

CHENZ A!
10-13-2010, 10:28 PM
You guys are ****ign stupid.

First off, you are the foreign stupid.


Second, consider me in the "why not" camp. I don't like the fucking guy, but it can't hurt. won't cost much, and best case we get a situational pass rusher to go opposite Tamba(which we really need).

DaneMcCloud
10-13-2010, 10:34 PM
You guys are ****ign stupid.

The guy has shown NOTHING since he's been suspended for PED's. WTF would bringing him in do? Nothing. Take up playing time from Studebaker. Doesn't seem like a good idea.

But hey you bitches have gotten soooo much right when it comes to this shit I suppose bringing Merriman in seems like a great ****ing idea /rolls mother ****ing eyes at dumbass bitches who thinks signing him seems low risk high reward and shit like that.

Someone forgot to take their "Happy Pills" today

HMc
10-14-2010, 01:59 AM
i'm not sure this type of polarising character is the guy i want coming in to the 3rd best defence in the NFL. all for upgrading where possible but this guy has had issues, and we aren't talking about the 32 defence anymore.

you can afford (and need) to be more discerning when you're near the top.

Guru
10-14-2010, 02:45 AM
Daniel Snyder

jjchieffan
10-14-2010, 05:07 AM
I don't understand Smith's thinking with this move. If he has to be cut in 6 weeks, then why put him on IR in the first place. Cut him now and be done with it. AJ Smith is just a total douchebag.

TheGuardian
10-14-2010, 05:33 AM
Someone forgot to take their "Happy Pills" today

Yeah sorry bout that. My week has been unreal week.

There really is no upside to signing Merriman. As Dane noted before the guy has had been injury prone for a while now. If he had anything left in the tank he wouldn't be on the side lines every week. And even when healthy the last couple of years he has not been effective AT ALL. Plus he would take away time from Studebaker.

So what "upside" is there to signing him? I don't see any. He's not magically going to start producing after all of those injuries and not using PED's. The guy is toast. No thanks.

WhitiE
10-14-2010, 05:36 AM
don't believe i would

T-post Tom
10-14-2010, 05:41 AM
He has multiple spinal tumors per Jack Harry. Damaged goods = stay away.

King_Chief_Fan
10-14-2010, 06:10 AM
I would prefer to groom Studebaker than take the damaged goods from the Chargers. This guy's lights are out!

the Talking Can
10-14-2010, 06:26 AM
unless he gets a new leg at the leg store, no thanks

keg in kc
10-14-2010, 06:33 AM
I'd look at him, at least. Got to turn over every rock.

Saulbadguy
10-14-2010, 07:22 AM
Some dumbass team like the Giants, Cowboys or Eagles will sign him for more than he is worth.

MOhillbilly
10-14-2010, 07:27 AM
redskins/bills/panthers

CHENZ A!
10-14-2010, 07:29 AM
Some dumbass team like the Giants, Cowboys or Eagles will sign him for more than he is worth.

Those teams have seemed to be pretty good at evaluating defensive talent over the yrs.
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Extra Point
10-14-2010, 07:41 AM
Who would take him? Al Davis.

chiefscafan
10-14-2010, 07:47 AM
For the fact that I would love to see him
do the lights out dance in chargers stadium, I'm all for bringing him in.

TheGuardian
10-14-2010, 08:03 AM
For the fact that I would love to see him
do the lights out dance in chargers stadium, I'm all for bringing him in.

Has he been reduced to doing that gay ass dance when he hands someone a cup of gatorade? Because the guy hasn't made a play worthy even that gay ass dance in a while.

Tuckdaddy
10-14-2010, 08:08 AM
Hell yes I'd pick him up! Who cares if he's been off some. Have you ever seen him when he's on? BEAST! I hope they get him.

-King-
10-14-2010, 08:19 AM
Hell yes I'd pick him up! Who cares if he's been off some. Have you ever seen him when he's on? BEAST! I hope they get him.

He hasn't done rat shit in 3 years. Really WTF? Seriously he's pretty much done less than Vrabel these past 3 yrs
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Tuckdaddy
10-14-2010, 08:21 AM
I bet he ends up in New England.

That is very likely and i would actually hate them even more.

Reerun_KC
10-14-2010, 08:23 AM
Lets just pass... Dude is broken...

kepp
10-14-2010, 09:13 AM
No thanks. I think I'd set myself on fire if I saw him doing his spaz dance in a Chiefs uniform.

Reerun_KC
10-14-2010, 09:18 AM
DO NOT WANT!!!

KC Tattoo
10-14-2010, 09:22 AM
PLAY ANDY STUDEBAKER

We got guys that can be good, better than any thing RoidMania would bring!!!!

Helll No Merrimermaid he hasn't done shit injurys. Play our own guys and draft continue to build through the draft. We don't need him. Our defense is pretty damn goood don't **** it up.

Detoxing
10-14-2010, 09:34 AM
I think this is a tough question to answer at this point. Merriman hasn't been healthy since 2007. That's a long time ago.

Also, I think the Chiefs would need to evaluate their team chemistry at that point. The Chiefs will have played 10 games at that point of his release and if the defense continues to play well, they probably won't want to run the risk of upsetting the lockerroom and on-field vibe. Merriman isn't exactly a quiet choirboy.

Plus, I don't think he's got anything left in the tank. IF he does, I could see him with the Jets in their effort to win the Super Bowl this year.

^^^^^This. All of it.

Rain Man
10-14-2010, 09:37 AM
It appears that he's been getting steadily smaller since 2007. In another six games he's only going to be 5 foot 6 and 156 pounds. No thanks.

Von Dumbass
10-14-2010, 09:37 AM
KC is too small of a market.

CHENZ A!
10-14-2010, 09:48 AM
KC is too small of a market.

LMAO
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mcaj22
10-14-2010, 09:57 AM
KC is too small of a market.


shut up

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-14-2010, 10:21 AM
The guy has shown NOTHING since he's been suspended for PED's. WTF would bringing him in do? Nothing. Take up playing time from Studebaker. Doesn't seem like a good idea.


See how that works? NOW, you've made a good point that I happen to agree with.

Chiefnj2
10-14-2010, 10:22 AM
I'll take "Players living off of their reputation of 5 years ago" for $1,000 Alex.

No thanks.

sedated
10-14-2010, 10:23 AM
play the Stud

<img src="http://cdn0.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/582729/gyi0061411007.jpg">

CHENZ A!
10-14-2010, 10:24 AM
Look, I'm rooting for studebaker, but he hasn't exactly shown that he's able to get pressure on opposing QB's. Using him as an argument against this signing is not smart at all in my opinion.
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Pawnmower
10-14-2010, 10:26 AM
Not just no, Hell No.

bevischief
10-14-2010, 10:27 AM
Can''t hurt, look at what has happened to the Brees and LT.

Brock
10-14-2010, 10:28 AM
I don't think the guy can play anymore. I think he was a product of modern chemistry.

Lzen
10-14-2010, 10:44 AM
No.

Mr. Laz
10-14-2010, 10:50 AM
not unless he would sign really cheap

2 yrs/2 million, no signing bonus

unothadeal
10-14-2010, 10:56 AM
not unless he would sign really cheap

2 yrs/2 million, no signing bonus

Funny that that's considered "cheap"

Mr. Laz
10-14-2010, 11:08 AM
Funny that that's considered "cheap"lol ... truth

last i heard, the veteran minimum in the NFL is 750k-ish

so 2yr/2mill would basically be the vet min for the 1st year and then 1.25 in the 2nd year.

it would be worth a flyer on him for that imo

That said, merriman's ego is probably way too big to sign for that kind of money. Unless he wanted to sign with someone to get back against the Chargers. :)

Short Leash Hootie
10-14-2010, 11:18 AM
Merriman has ZERO left in the tank...I'd rather sign a 4th string long snapper for $2M than Merriman.

HemiEd
10-14-2010, 11:41 AM
I don't think the guy can play anymore. I think he was a product of modern chemistry.

I agree, and think it was pretty evident. Besides, I hate him.

KC Tattoo
10-14-2010, 11:50 AM
play the Stud

<img src="http://cdn0.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/582729/gyi0061411007.jpg">

THIS!!!!!X1000

DeezNutz
10-14-2010, 11:53 AM
Hilarious if anyone is worried about Clark's money, and the immediate knee-jerk reactions of "No way!" are strange, considering that this would be an absolute no-risk move.

Give 'em a look. Make sure you know that the Chargers aren't ****ing stupid. Absolutely must do your due diligence when talking about a player who has some history of playing at an elite level.

RustShack
10-14-2010, 11:53 AM
Is Kendrell Bell still out there?

OnTheWarpath58
10-14-2010, 11:54 AM
Look, I'm rooting for studebaker, but he hasn't exactly shown that he's able to get pressure on opposing QB's. Using him as an argument against this signing is not smart at all in my opinion.
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Especially when he can't seem to get on the field.

There's no risk to bring in a guy like this. Maybe he is done. Better to confirm it than to just assume, and watch him help another team.

But like I said earlier, it won't happen.

RustShack
10-14-2010, 11:54 AM
Since we don't have much Depth... I wouldn't be against it. Vrabel isn't getting any younger.

Reerun_KC
10-14-2010, 11:55 AM
Hilarious if anyone is worried about Clark's money, and the immediate knee-jerk reactions of "No way!" are strange, considering that this would be an absolute no-risk move.

Give 'em a look. Make sure you know that the Chargers aren't ****ing stupid. Absolutely must do your due diligence when talking about a player who has some history of playing at an elite level.

Only when on PED's....

Dude is junk, garbage, trash... he can go fuck himself with a rusty chainsaw for all I care...

Any pathetic lights out dance in Chiefs uniform = :facepalm:

DeezNutz
10-14-2010, 11:57 AM
Only when on PED's....

Dude is junk, garbage, trash... he can go **** himself with a rusty chainsaw for all I care...

Any pathetic lights out dance in Chiefs uniform = :facepalm:

I couldn't care less what he'd do in a Chiefs uniform if he's doing it after a sack. Too many allowing personal feelings about a player to dictate the response.

I care about wins and on-field production. If any player can help with these, I'm on board.

P.S. There are pharmacies in MO and KS.

OnTheWarpath58
10-14-2010, 11:58 AM
I couldn't care less what he'd do in a Chiefs uniform if he's doing it after a sack. Too many allowing personal feelings about a player to dictate the response.

I care about wins and on-field production. If any player can help with these, I'm on board.

Exactly.

Pestilence
10-14-2010, 11:59 AM
Fuck yeah.....bring him in. He's at least fucking depth.

boogblaster
10-14-2010, 12:11 PM
Yea Im for it .. he can at least play half the snaps still .. prolly at a high level if rested ...

tyler360
10-14-2010, 12:12 PM
Well I am for it. Like has been said it would be a great no risk high reward type of move.

If this were to happen we need to bookmark this thread to see how many 180 turns there would be with people. I think it would be pretty funny.

Mr. Laz
10-14-2010, 12:40 PM
Just bring him in to rush the passer ... Hali on one side and Merriman on the other

all depends on the price

KC Tattoo
10-14-2010, 12:51 PM
I put odds that Andy Studebaker can become a solled player for years to come over Mr. Roid lasting a year and a half with the Chiefs. IDK if he would be an upgrade this year, just figure he wont last and it be like signing Ty Law all over again only at LB position.

Yea we got Chris Chambers last year and he has done an ok job last year when he got here, this year he isn't worth a damn and is only on the decline. Same outcome & it deprives players that need quality playing time for development/ success for the long road ahead.

Even though we can make a run at the playoffs this year, we need to continue to work on our guys from the draft. They are our future not pretend we are now one player away from glory. FUCK no to Mr. Roid!!!

Short Leash Hootie
10-14-2010, 01:09 PM
Actually...I have no idea if Chambers is washed up or not...our QB can't throw the ball...and only completes passes to the first option on designed plays because he can't read a defense for shit.

Reerun_KC
10-14-2010, 01:10 PM
I couldn't care less what he'd do in a Chiefs uniform if he's doing it after a sack. Too many allowing personal feelings about a player to dictate the response.

I care about wins and on-field production. If any player can help with these, I'm on board.

P.S. There are pharmacies in MO and KS.

so the Deal is done?

Pestilence
10-14-2010, 01:11 PM
I put odds that Andy Studebaker can become a solled player for years to come over Mr. Roid lasting a year and a half with the Chiefs. IDK if he would be an upgrade this year, just figure he wont last and it be like signing Ty Law all over again only at LB position.

Yea we got Chris Chambers last year and he has done an ok job last year when he got here, this year he isn't worth a damn and is only on the decline. Same outcome & it deprives players that need quality playing time for development/ success for the long road ahead.

Even though we can make a run at the playoffs this year, we need to continue to work on our guys from the draft. They are our future not pretend we are now one player away from glory. FUCK no to Mr. Roid!!!

Depth is a good thing.

Short Leash Hootie
10-14-2010, 01:13 PM
Merriman is done.

Washed up.

It's over.

My god he's not even thread worthy.

-King-
10-14-2010, 01:16 PM
I couldn't care less what he'd do in a Chiefs uniform if he's doing it after a sack. Too many allowing personal feelings about a player to dictate the response.

I care about wins and on-field production. If any player can help with these, I'm on board.

P.S. There are pharmacies in MO and KS.

Which he hasn't had in 3 years...

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-14-2010, 01:18 PM
Plus, the guy is AFCW, and you know Smith with want to somehow get more than fucking garbage heap is worth.

KC Tattoo
10-14-2010, 01:19 PM
Depth is a good thing.

Depth? You have to cut a person to add a person, Who would you cut any position to add depth at linebacker? Cassel obviously but we need depth at that position too. Your gonna take away depth on an upcomming player to add a player who is not going to be worth a damn cuz he sucks after injurys. Mr. Roid is not worth taking away a guys potential that we have on this team.

B_Ambuehl
10-14-2010, 01:27 PM
If he can get his achilles healthy he's far from done. His production on a per snap basis last year was nearly as good as in '07 when he had 12 sacks he just didn't play that all that much because he set out a few games and split time with English the rest of the time. He's always been a force against the run - Never at any point in his career have teams readily run in his direction when he's on the field and that includes this year.

A lot of his proposed drops in production are account of scheme. Both Cottrell and Rivera run very conservative pass rush schemes. Romeo's scheme isn't terribly aggressive but it's not conservative either.

The guy is only 26 and is an AJ Smith reject. That alone increases the odds that he'll end up productive somewhere. The tandem of Hali and Merriman would complement each other very well in style. Merriman is primarily a bullrusher who collapses the pocket and Hali runs around people and gets pressure from outside in. It's a lot easier to get sacks when you have the combination of guys coming around outside and lineman being driven back into your face.

For a 6 game rental it would be stupid not to consider looking at him.

Short Leash Hootie
10-14-2010, 01:31 PM
I'd rather have Tila Tequila on the active roster than Shawne Merriman.

DeezNutz
10-14-2010, 01:33 PM
Actually...I have no idea if Chambers is washed up or not...our QB can't throw the ball...and only completes passes to the first option on designed plays because he can't read a defense for shit.

He was producing last season, with the same shitty QB. And then he got paid.

-King-
10-14-2010, 01:36 PM
Plus, the guy is AFCW, and you know Smith with want to somehow get more than fucking garbage heap is worth.

He's getting cut not traded.

Short Leash Hootie
10-14-2010, 01:39 PM
He was producing last season, with the same shitty QB. And then he got paid.

Yeah...

and last year we had taken more than 3 sacks...

you know you can say what you want about the improvements of our line...

it probably has improved...

but how the fuck do we know they don't throw the damn ball down the field...ever

from the 5 targets Chambers has seemed to have gotten this year...he seems every bit as good as last year...

but our staff is scared to death of letting Cassel pass the ball and I don't blame them...he sucks

Chocolate Hog
10-14-2010, 02:06 PM
Yup

DeezNutz
10-14-2010, 02:14 PM
but our staff is scared to death of letting Cassel pass the ball and I don't blame them...he sucks

No argument.

Valiant
10-14-2010, 02:36 PM
Yes and yes.

One no risk. Plays great for us at minimum salary then we can decide afterwards what to do with him.

But mainly I would sign him for the sd game. See if he can make rivers cry.

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2010, 03:20 PM
The responses from those in favor of signing Merriman must not be familiar with his recent history.

1. He's NEVER once in his career played an entire 16 game season.
2. In his first three seasons, he recorded 39.5 five sacks. In the last three seasons, he's recorded a total of four sacks.
3. While he should be in his prime at age 26, he's been sideline by injury after injury after injury since he was suspended for steroid use.
4. He doesn't exactly fit the "profile".
5. Personally, I don't think he's got shit left in the tank.
6. As I mentioned earlier, if the Chiefs defense is continuing to maintain or even make strides after game 10, I seriously doubt they'd consider adding Merriman due to chemistry issues.

TheGuardian
10-14-2010, 05:13 PM
The responses from those in favor of signing Merriman must not be familiar with his recent history.

1. He's NEVER once in his career played an entire 16 game season.
2. In his first three seasons, he recorded 39.5 five sacks. In the last three seasons, he's recorded a total of four sacks.
3. While he should be in his prime at age 26, he's been sideline by injury after injury after injury since he was suspended for steroid use.
4. He doesn't exactly fit the "profile".
5. Personally, I don't think he's got shit left in the tank.
6. As I mentioned earlier, if the Chiefs defense is continuing to maintain or even make strides after game 10, I seriously doubt they'd consider adding Merriman due to chemistry issues.

......all this........................

I have no idea why people think we need to bring in Merriman. He's done. People need to wake up and realize we aren't talking about the guy that was wrecking havoc before he got busted for deca (why deca of all the anabolics to use btw? What an idiot).

Iowanian
10-14-2010, 05:48 PM
He's been a turd since getting off of the Juice.

I say the only reason you bring him in is if you don't think enough Kansas City women are being punched in the face since Larry Johnson left town.

no thanks.

Wallcrawler
10-14-2010, 06:57 PM
Might as well give him a look if he's cheap.

All the professional analysts on this board have been wrong before. I think if the Chiefs had considered picking up Vick before the season most posters here would have had multiple brain hemmorhages.

Turns out dude can still play, all he needed was a shot.


As for Studebaker, if the guy is so great why isnt he on the field. A couple sacks on Kevin f'ing Kolb in the preseason isnt quite an earth shattering achievement.

In the end, its probably a moot point anyway. Hali is coming on, and Vrabel is basicly the field general. Whether its a shaky Merriman or a 100% Studebaker, neither one of them are getting on the field very often.

But, if I had my choice in the matter Id take the has been over the never was. Merriman was a monster when he was healthy. The potential for elite play is there, where Studebaker is a fan favorite guy who makes a play here and there. I like him. I liked R-Kal Truluck too. But they werent on the same level on their best day as Merriman was on his best day.

As far as Roids go, they account for some, but not all of Merriman's havoc. Roids dont control getting off the ball, timing, technique, sensible celebrations, any of that stuff.

The guy's been injury plagued. If he gets healthy and becomes a beast while we get him cheap, its a huge move. If not, we dont really lose anything.

I say give it a shot. I wish we had a do-over on that Vick deal for damn sure.

DeezNutz
10-14-2010, 07:06 PM
The responses from those in favor of signing Merriman must not be familiar with his recent history.

1. He's NEVER once in his career played an entire 16 game season.
2. In his first three seasons, he recorded 39.5 five sacks. In the last three seasons, he's recorded a total of four sacks.
3. While he should be in his prime at age 26, he's been sideline by injury after injury after injury since he was suspended for steroid use.
4. He doesn't exactly fit the "profile".
5. Personally, I don't think he's got shit left in the tank.
6. As I mentioned earlier, if the Chiefs defense is continuing to maintain or even make strides after game 10, I seriously doubt they'd consider adding Merriman due to chemistry issues.

1. Worth a chance to see if he can break this pattern.
2. Don't give a fuck. Talent trumps bullshit like "profiles" and actually constructs winning "cultures," another bullshit term.
3. And the Chiefs need to ensure that this is the case.

All about due diligence.

thurman merman
10-14-2010, 07:07 PM
I would hate the Chiefs if Shawne Merriman was on the team. If I ever have to see the "Lights Out" epileptic seizure act again, I might fork my eyeballs out.

Ralphy Boy
10-14-2010, 07:20 PM
But, if I had my choice in the matter Id take the has been over the never was. Merriman was a monster when he was healthy. The potential for elite play is there, where Studebaker is a fan favorite guy who makes a play here and there. I like him. I liked R-Kal Truluck too. But they werent on the same level on their best day as Merriman was on his best day.

Wow, there's a name I haven't heard in a few years.

notorious
10-14-2010, 08:11 PM
Is Kendrell Bell still out there?

This.


Kendrell Bell Part Deux.

DeezNutz
10-14-2010, 08:12 PM
This.


Kendrell Bell Part Deux.

Hardly. He was our "name" signing in the off-season. This would be a mid-season, low-cost flier.

notorious
10-14-2010, 08:15 PM
Hardly. He was our "name" signing in the off-season. This would be a mid-season, low-cost flier.

I should have specified "In Performance".

TheGuardian
10-14-2010, 08:37 PM
Hardly. He was our "name" signing in the off-season. This would be a mid-season, low-cost flier.

BS. If you sign Merriman you have to cut someone.

Second, locker room mood IS ****ing important, and you're casting it off as nothing basically. No you don't take a chance on Merriman because the guy is just flat out broken. Yeah he's Kendrell Bell part II because of the injury factor.

And stop comparing it to the Vick situation people. Vick got out of prison. He hadn't had 19,000 injuries over the past 3 seasons and had done little when he had a chance. Merriman has 4 sacks in the last 3 seasons. He's done.

And if talent trumped everything the Synder Redskins would have won a SB by now. But they haven't. So it doesn't.

DeezNutz
10-14-2010, 08:58 PM
BS. If you sign Merriman you have to cut someone.

Second, locker room mood IS ****ing important, and you're casting it off as nothing basically. No you don't take a chance on Merriman because the guy is just flat out broken. Yeah he's Kendrell Bell part II because of the injury factor.

And stop comparing it to the Vick situation people. Vick got out of prison. He hadn't had 19,000 injuries over the past 3 seasons and had done little when he had a chance. Merriman has 4 sacks in the last 3 seasons. He's done.

And if talent trumped everything the Synder Redskins would have won a SB by now. But they haven't. So it doesn't.

I agree that chemistry can be meaningful. A "winning culture" is what losers talk about, though. Two different things.

And the Bell situation is not applicable in a substantive way. Someone would have to be cut or moved to the PS? Big deal. I nominate our QB.

I haven't compared Merriman to Vick. Look, the former might be done. I'm not arguing that this isn't a possibility, but I am arguing that it's worth having first-hand empirical evidence.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-14-2010, 08:59 PM
I agree that chemistry can be meaningful. A "winning culture" is what losers talk about, though. Two different things.

And the Bell situation is not applicable in a substantive way. Someone would have to be cut or moved to the PS? Big deal. I nominate our QB.

I haven't compared Merriman to Vick. Look, the former might be done. I'm not arguing that this isn't a possibility, but I am arguing that it's worth having first-hand empirical evidence.

ROFL

Demonpenz
10-14-2010, 09:03 PM
the chargers thought welker was washed up too

Demonpenz
10-14-2010, 09:06 PM
Maybe a move like this would finally fire up hali

TheGuardian
10-14-2010, 09:08 PM
I agree that chemistry can be meaningful. A "winning culture" is what losers talk about, though. Two different things.

And the Bell situation is not applicable in a substantive way. Someone would have to be cut or moved to the PS? Big deal. I nominate our QB.

I haven't compared Merriman to Vick. Look, the former might be done. I'm not arguing that this isn't a possibility, but I am arguing that it's worth having first-hand empirical evidence.

I'm not saying the Chiefs shouldn't talk to the guy, but I would be against signing him. I guess that is all I am getting at.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-14-2010, 09:08 PM
Maybe a move like this would finally fire up hali

ROFL To rip Merriman's head off? I could see it.

DeezNutz
10-14-2010, 09:10 PM
I'm not saying the Chiefs shouldn't talk to the guy, but I would be against signing him. I guess that is all I am getting at.

Fair enough.

BossChief
10-14-2010, 09:35 PM
the chargers thought welker was washed up tooDolphins

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2010, 10:30 PM
Dolphins

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