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thurman merman
10-17-2010, 04:17 PM
Why would anyone besides Brandon Flowers ever have an opportunity to cover Andre Johnson? Flowers whipped his ass all day every time he covered him. Other than the reverse pass interference call I'm not sure that Flowers even allowed Johnson to make a catch. Carr and everybody else that tried to cover him kept getting burned. Same thing last week. Why was Flowers not covering Reggie Wayne all day? He is obviously their best corner and it seems like a no-brainer that he should be covering the other team's best receiver.

crazycoffey
10-17-2010, 04:18 PM
I've thought the same thing....

Mecca
10-17-2010, 04:19 PM
Because they just leave the CB's on their sides, the other teams know this so they move their WR's to get the matchups they want.

Bwana
10-17-2010, 04:19 PM
Indeed

Bambi
10-17-2010, 04:19 PM
Didn't Johnson beat Flowers on the final TD catch?

I'm not sure but I thought it was...

L.A. Chieffan
10-17-2010, 04:20 PM
Carr didnt do a bad job.

Its Andre Johnson, the guy is probably the best WR in the game, hes gonna get his.

suds79
10-17-2010, 04:21 PM
Didn't Johnson beat Flowers on the final TD catch?

I'm not sure but I thought it was...

They were in a zone.

Johnson ran to the safety, cut it back out. Throw was over Carr who was playing underneath.

Johnson simply found the open spot in the zone.

thurman merman
10-17-2010, 04:22 PM
Because they just leave the CB's on their sides, the other teams know this so they move their WR's to get the matchups they want.

I get that, but what is the logic behind it? Why would you not put your best corner on their best WR every single play?

ILikeBigTiddys
10-17-2010, 04:24 PM
We're trying to pad Flowers stats

Jerm
10-17-2010, 04:24 PM
Speaking of Flowers, best CB in the NFL right now?

I think you could make the argument...he's def. top 3.

Pro Bowler.

suds79
10-17-2010, 04:25 PM
I get that, but what is the logic behind it? Why would you not put your best corner on their best WR every single play?

I can see that point. I'm just taking a while stab at it here but what does that mean if Flowers is all day locked up with Johnson. What about when a zone is called? What if Johnson lines up in the slot? What zone is Brandon then suppose to cover? Can you even coordinate that correctly on the fly?

Ex:

Zone D is called. However, Flowers always lines up against Johnson (if not, then the O knows we're in zone). Don't know where Johnson is lining up until it's too late.

Bambi
10-17-2010, 04:27 PM
Speaking of Flowers, best CB in the NFL right now?

I think you could make the argument...he's def. top 3.

Pro Bowler.

Well, other than the Jets have 2 on their team that are better you may be right.

thurman merman
10-17-2010, 04:29 PM
Well, other than the Jets have 2 on their team that are better you may be right.

Cromartie is definitely NOT better than Flowers.

TheGuardian
10-17-2010, 04:30 PM
Well, other than the Jets have 2 on their team that are better you may be right.

Um Cromartie is not. No. Get real.

thurman merman
10-17-2010, 04:30 PM
I can see that point. I'm just taking a while stab at it here but what does that mean if Flowers is all day locked up with Johnson. What about when a zone is called? What if Johnson lines up in the slot? What zone is Brandon then suppose to cover? Can you even coordinate that correctly on the fly?

Ex:

Zone D is called. However, Flowers always lines up against Johnson (if not, then the O knows we're in zone). Don't know where Johnson is lining up until it's too late.

Flowers should be covering the Andre Johnson zone.

Jerm
10-17-2010, 04:31 PM
Right now, Revis isn't better than Flowers.

ILikeBigTiddys
10-17-2010, 04:34 PM
Right now, Revis isn't better than Flowers.

So true. I hate to say it but this KU guy is kinda dumb.

Bambi
10-17-2010, 05:05 PM
So much for Revis being hurt, lol

wutamess
10-17-2010, 06:13 PM
Didn't Johnson beat Flowers on the final TD catch?

I'm not sure but I thought it was...

Actually Berry got beat AGAIN on that play.

Both of their passing TD's were Berry's responsibility.

Rain Man
10-17-2010, 06:47 PM
I just wish eric berry would stop giving up tds. he's a sieve.
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KCrockaholic
10-17-2010, 06:50 PM
Speaking of Flowers, best CB in the NFL right now?

I think you could make the argument...he's def. top 3.

Pro Bowler.

Top 3. Easily. Flowers is better than Cromartie, and Revis at this point. Revis is not the same guy as he was last year. I've watched all of the Jets games in which he's played. Flowers has by far out played him.

Shaid
10-17-2010, 10:00 PM
Flowers should be covering the Andre Johnson zone.

Do you know how a zone works? Wow.

philfree
10-17-2010, 10:07 PM
I just wish eric berry would stop giving up tds. he's a sieve.
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I saw his number way to much today on the back end of a play........He'll get it but damn.

PhilFree:arrow:

FAX
10-17-2010, 10:12 PM
Flowers almost had a pick six, today. One that would probably have sealed the game. He played a great game, overall.

But the thing I liked most was the fire he displayed when he was jobbed by that horrific PI call. These guys want to win ... and badly.

I can clearly recall the Dark Days Of Herm when guys were basically saying, "Well, they get paid to play, too ... blah, blah, blah ..." The entire attitude of this team has done a 360, then a couple of 90s. I dig it.

FAX

thurman merman
10-17-2010, 10:12 PM
Do you know how a zone works? Wow.

LOL yeah, I was just being facetious.

Renegade
10-17-2010, 10:18 PM
Flowers almost had a pick six, today. One that would probably have sealed the game. He played a great game, overall.

But the thing I liked most was the fire he displayed when he was jobbed by that horrific PI call. These guys want to win ... and badly.

I can clearly recall the Dark Days Of Herm when guys were basically saying, "Well, they get paid to play, too ... blah, blah, blah ..." The entire attitude of this team has done a 360, then a couple of 90s. I dig it.

FAX

I like the fire too. I was afraid he was itching for a 15 yard penalty though. I loved how Haley tried to calm him down and get his head back in the game.

kysirsoze
10-17-2010, 10:20 PM
I like the fire too. I was afraid he was itching for a 15 yard penalty though. I loved how Haley tried to calm him down and get his head back in the game.

...and then went right back to ripping the ref for him. He was like, "You go play, being an angry fucker is my job." :thumb:

Shaid
10-17-2010, 10:30 PM
LOL yeah, I was just being facetious.

ok, you're forgiven. :D