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aturnis
11-05-2010, 09:46 PM
So the NFL Network recently aired the finale to their ten part series called NFL's top 100 players. The episodes came and went, and finally, last night, the entire series was over with. Over, without any mention of Derrick Thomas.

Now, the fact that the so called experts didn't consider Derrick Thomas a top 100 player isn't necessarily what bothers me. It's some of the names that ARE considered top 100 player OF ALL TIME, ahead of Derrick Thomas.


Michael Strahan for instance. Strahan retired with 141.5 career sacks, 794 career tackles, 4 career interceptions for 2 TD's, 21 forced fumbles and 15 fumble recoveries for 1 TD, plus 1 safety. A total of 20 points scored over a 15 year career. He was also named to the Pro Bowl roster seven times.

While Derrick Thomas had 126.5 career sacks, 654 career tackles, 1 career interception, 41 forced fumbles and 19 fumble recoveries for for 4 touchdowns, plus 3 safeties. A total of 30 points scored in an 11 year career. He was also named to the Pro Bowl roster nine times.


Each player had a moment that will jump out at you.

For Strahan, that moment was his record breaking season of 22.5 sacks. Which, some people think was a "gift" record.

As for Thomas, that would either be his 20 sack season, or his record setting 7 sacks in one game.

Looking at each players body of work, does anyone think Strahan deserves to be in the top 100 while Derrick Thomas does not?

Rain Man
11-05-2010, 09:49 PM
I'd generally give the nod to a lineman over a linebacker with similar sack stats, but in this case I'd take Derrick Thomas over Michael Strahan. I don't view Strahan as a Top 100 player at all, and DT is borderline Top 100, maybe not quite.

I really think they should weight by position and not have so many freaking quarterbacks on the list.

kysirsoze
11-05-2010, 09:49 PM
Nope. But DT isn't around to do Subway commercials.

kysirsoze
11-05-2010, 09:50 PM
The bigger omission was Willie Roaf.

KurtCobain
11-05-2010, 10:01 PM
can someone please post a list of that top 100?
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Rain Man
11-05-2010, 10:01 PM
The bigger omission was Willie Roaf.


Oh, wow. You're right.

What tackles are on the list? I know Munoz is, but I might take Roaf over Munoz. Roaf was a god.

kysirsoze
11-05-2010, 10:02 PM
Oh, wow. You're right.

What tackles are on the list? I know Munoz is, but I might take Roaf over Munoz. Roaf was a god.

Ogden. :shake:

Rain Man
11-05-2010, 10:10 PM
Ogden. :shake:


:shake:

HotRoute
11-05-2010, 10:20 PM
That list seems like complete bullshit

Guru
11-05-2010, 10:33 PM
Winning a superbowl must have been a requirement for that list.

Chiefs Rool
11-05-2010, 10:48 PM
DT and Strahan would both deserve it i would think. I haven't seen this list though

KChiefs1
11-05-2010, 10:52 PM
3 Chiefs on that list

Tony Gonzalez
Willie Lanier
Bobby Bell

Mr. Kotter
11-05-2010, 11:01 PM
I'm of the opinion that...

D.T. deserves top 100 recognition, but...

...so does Strahan.

They were both players that other teams, LITERALLY, had to "plan" around....had to "prepare" for...

THAT is top 100 to me. Just sayin' :shrug:

Mr. Kotter
11-05-2010, 11:05 PM
Roaf, left off??? Seriously?

No way. No way, in hell. :shake:

That PROOVES this 'list' is worthless.....

Sweet Daddy Hate
11-05-2010, 11:10 PM
Deion Sanders needs to STFU, that ungrateful little shitheel.

Chiefs Rool
11-05-2010, 11:29 PM
Roaf, left off??? Seriously?

No way. No way, in hell. :shake:

That PROOVES this 'list' is worthless.....

ya, that's just plain stupid. Left Tackles do NOT get any better than that and never will.

Mojo Jojo
11-06-2010, 04:55 AM
3 Chiefs on that list

Tony Gonzalez
Willie Lanier
Bobby Bell

DT was not top 100 all-time. Chiefs fans should be upset that Buck Buchanan was not on the list.

Baby Lee
11-06-2010, 05:02 AM
OL on the list

Anthony Munoz - T
John Hannah - G
Jim Parker - T
Jim Otto - C
Mike Webster - C
Jonathan Ogden - T
Art Shell - T
Bruce Matthews - G
Larry Allen - C
Mel Hein - C

joemama
11-06-2010, 09:05 AM
Winning a superbowl must have been a requirement for that list.

Unfortunately this weighs heavily with the HOF voters aswell. Not the individuals accomplishments. :mad:

|Zach|
11-06-2010, 09:33 AM
DT was not top 100 all-time. Chiefs fans should be upset that Buck Buchanan was not on the list.

Agree on this. Roaf and Buck not being on are much bigger omissions IMO.

Sweet Daddy Hate
11-06-2010, 07:07 PM
DT was not top 100 all-time. Chiefs fans should be upset that Buck Buchanan was not on the list.

This. Changed the position, totally dominant.

Mi_chief_fan
11-06-2010, 07:55 PM
Other noteable O-line omissions: Gene Upshaw, Jim Covert (anchored a good line with the 80s Bears) and, I hate to mention it, but Gary Zimmerman.

That said, Roaf was better than all of them.

Mi_chief_fan
11-06-2010, 07:59 PM
Also, love him or hate him, I thought Warren Sapp should be on the list. Was the best DT in the league for nearly a decade.

cosmo20002
11-06-2010, 08:10 PM
Strahan retired with 141.5 career sacks, 794 career tackles, 4 career interceptions for 2 TD's, 21 forced fumbles and 15 fumble recoveries for 1 TD, plus 1 safety. A total of 20 points scored over a 15 year career. He was also named to the Pro Bowl roster seven times.

While Derrick Thomas had 126.5 career sacks, 654 career tackles, 1 career interception, 41 forced fumbles and 19 fumble recoveries for for 4 touchdowns, plus 3 safeties. A total of 30 points scored in an 11 year career. He was also named to the Pro Bowl roster nine times.

Looking at each players body of work, does anyone think Strahan deserves to be in the top 100 while Derrick Thomas does not?

There are a lot of great players not on the list. Strahan was pretty far down I recall. Considering that Strahan played 4 more seasons, their stats are fairly similar, so you can't really say that it is outrageous. The fumble recoveries, TDs and points scored are kind of irrelevant to me. I don't think you can really compare players of their positions on those kind of things.

I'm sure DT has them all beat in the stat of child support payments owed.

kysirsoze
11-06-2010, 08:11 PM
I probably would have had DT on my list, but that's certainly a debatable one. Roaf, however, is not. I have no idea what they were thinking.

milkman
11-06-2010, 09:37 PM
I didn't pay much attention to this list because I knew that it would have a lot of questionable selections.

When Jery Rice was named #1, it completely blew that list up for me.

Yes, Rice was a great player, but he rarely had to make a play on a ball thrown to him by either Montana or Young, and that system, along with the QBs, consistently, play after play, game after game, year after year, put him in perfect position to make plays.

rtmike
11-06-2010, 11:16 PM
Almost impossible to copy & paste here so, http://top100.nfl.com/