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LiL stumppy
11-07-2010, 09:06 PM
1.B-Flowers.. Kid is good, he is always going to be good. Ford has unreal speed, and flowers played a lot of man coverage. With his speed, you can't really jump a route, you HAVE to give him a lot of cushion, which is why they completed a few 8-15 yard routes infront of Flowers, because he had to give Ford cushion. And the field didn't help on his breaks. The last play where Ford cought that pass and Flowers didn't pick it, well thats no ones fault. Ford made a heck of a play..

Flowers dropped a pick,McGraw had 1 or 2. DJ had 2 last week.. It's never an "issue" because it's not there job, but it is turning into an issue, because we have left a lot of turnovers on the field.

D played well, gave up 1 long pass in OT that really killed us, Flowers just doesn't have the speed to man up on someone that fast.

Casshole is awful. Plain and simple, if you look at his numbers and use that as an arghument that he's good, you don't understand the game. I have never seen so many over/under throws in my life. He threw a pick at the end of the first half, off his back foot, Bowe was wide open behind Moiokiwhatever. Over threw TM on the 3rd and 1.. Over threw many many people, it's just horrible to watch, I hate watching him. I hate that we have put the ball in his hands so many times on 3rd and 1. He doesn't turn the ball over because he either completes 3 yard routes, or over throws every body that's deep, including the safteys.

Waters got owned by Seymore a lot, but Seymore is a freak.

Bowe is bowe. We need a true number 1, obviously. Bowe would be a great number 2 reciever, but he just isn't good enough to count on as a number 1.

This season is not over, we all knew this was going to be a tough game, it always is at Oakland. So I don't say how you can see the season is over, that's so stupid. Granted Casshole won't take us very far, if to the play offs at all, but we have a legit D, and a very good run game.

I am more upset about how many points we didn't put up at the end of the second half. Instead of 10, we should have been going in with ATLEAST 16.

I know, if you don't agree with me, I am a dipshit. And thats fine :D

P.S. The reason we are not converting many 3rd and 1's is because teams know Casshole can't throw the ball, so they stack about 9 in the box.

Three7s
11-07-2010, 09:26 PM
I agree with all of what you say.

What's got me mad is how we seem to be allergic to winning on the road. Our one win is against the Browns, who aren't bad, but still.......

LiL stumppy
11-07-2010, 09:32 PM
I agree with all of what you say.

What's got me mad is how we seem to be allergic to winning on the road. Our one win is against the Browns, who aren't bad, but still.......

Eh losing like we did to Indy and Hou is nothing to be ashamed of.. Sucks, but we didn't play bad.

Mr. Flopnuts
11-07-2010, 09:33 PM
Eh losing like we did to Indy and Hou is nothing to be ashamed of.. Sucks, but we didn't play bad.

Nope. But we played terrible today, last Sunday, and the first 50 minutes of the previous Sunday. We're on a downward slide like it or not, and they're going to have to put in some real work to turn that around.

Bane
11-07-2010, 09:35 PM
Eh losing like we did to Indy and Hou is nothing to be ashamed of.. Sucks, but we didn't play bad.

I didn't like the Houston loss,not that I like any loss but it pained me more than the loss to Indy.We threw away too many chances to score late in that game. Anyway whatever,time to pound the Donks.

LiL stumppy
11-07-2010, 09:36 PM
Nope. But we played terrible today, last Sunday, and the first 50 minutes of the previous Sunday. We're on a downward slide like it or not, and they're going to have to put in some real work to turn that around.

I think our D has played good all year. I think our play calling and enthusiasm has been on the downward slide.

Don't agree with a lot of it.

LiL stumppy
11-07-2010, 09:37 PM
I didn't like the Houston loss,not that I like any loss but it pained me more than the loss to Indy.We threw away too many chances to score late in that game. Anyway whatever,time to pound the Donks.

I agree
We are about 6 plays away from being 8-0.

and about 6 from being 1-7

Goldmember
11-07-2010, 09:39 PM
Nope. But we played terrible today, last Sunday, and the first 50 minutes of the previous Sunday. We're on a downward slide like it or not, and they're going to have to put in some real work to turn that around.

I agree and have been noticing it also. That's why it's stupid for kool-aid drinkers to say "we have an easy schedule" and be talking about winning the division and the playoffs because every game is a fight. This team is not that good to overpower teams...even the so-called "weaklings" of the NFL.

Goldmember
11-07-2010, 09:40 PM
I think our D has played good all year. I think our play calling and enthusiasm has been on the downward slide.

Don't agree with a lot of it.

Good but not always good enough to win the tight games, but I blame the play calling and QB more than the D. The pass defense needs a lot of work and that starts up front with a better pass rush.

LiL stumppy
11-07-2010, 10:06 PM
Since we are a good running and D team all our games are going to to be close

Seriously, the difference between us and Ravens is Joe Flacco.

RNATION
11-07-2010, 10:09 PM
It was actually worse then you think, Chiefs ......

1. were spotted 7 points by the refs on that B.S. pass interference call.

2. Benifitted from bad ref calls against the Raiders

2. were handed the ball on the Nick Miller fumble, That led to another 7 ponts

4. Raiders screwed out of 3 points when Jano missed that field goal

6. Raiders were missing half the team Zach Miller, Aso, Bruce, Rolando, Branch, Chaz, murphy

Can you imagine what the score would have been if they were playing ?

All that and the Raiders still won , wow

KCChiefsFan88
11-07-2010, 10:11 PM
Everyone wants to dump all over Bowe... how about Chambers and his continued season-long quest to do as little as possible while adding to his retirement fund from his fat new contract.

LiL stumppy
11-07-2010, 10:19 PM
It was actually worse then you think, Chiefs ......

1. were spotted 7 points by the refs on that B.S. pass interference call.

2. Benifitted from bad ref calls against the Raiders

2. were handed the ball on the Nick Miller fumble, That led to another 7 ponts

4. Raiders screwed out of 3 points when Jano missed that field goal

6. Raiders were missing half the team Zach Miller, Aso, Bruce, Rolando, Branch, Chaz, murphy

Can you imagine what the score would have been if they were playing ?

All that and the Raiders still won , wow

I also saw us drop 3 INT, get a horrible call on the drive befor OT (holding on Washington)

If I recall we didn't score a TD on that miller fumble recovery.. And it was close, there was no exclusive evidence provided that it wasn't a fumble.

Not to mention the 18 holding calls on Hali we didn't recieve. The first quater PI, was a bad call, but don't act like we didnt get ours.

We are a horrible passing team, and we were missing our most explosive player in the passing game, which made us awful. Wait till they come to KC buddy, it will be a totally different outcome, as it usually is when we play at home.

LiL stumppy
11-07-2010, 10:20 PM
Everyone wants to dump all over Bowe... how about Chambers and his continued season-long quest to do as little as possible while adding to his retirement fund from his fat new contract.

wtf does that have to do with Bowe dropping passes? Seriously, reading that post wasted a lot of my time.

aturnis
11-07-2010, 10:21 PM
Team definitely has some draft needs. They need a #1 WR, a OLB opposite Tamba, a NT, a big bruising runningback(fuck Thomas Jones, I'm sick of watching him do nothing) and DEFINITELY a QB...

RaiderGreg
11-07-2010, 10:26 PM
I also saw us drop 3 INT, get a horrible call on the drive befor OT (holding on Washington)

If I recall we didn't score a TD on that miller fumble recovery.. And it was close, there was no exclusive evidence provided that it wasn't a fumble.

Not to mention the 18 holding calls on Hali we didn't recieve. The first quater PI, was a bad call, but don't act like we didnt get ours.

We are a horrible passing team, and we were missing our most explosive player in the passing game, which made us awful. Wait till they come to KC buddy, it will be a totally different outcome, as it usually is when we play at home.

Actually you did score a TD off of the Miller fumble. It was 17-13 when the Raiders forced the 3 and out. After the Miller fumble was the 20+ yard TD pass to Bowe on the blown coverage.

CoMoChief
11-07-2010, 10:45 PM
Eh losing like we did to Indy and Hou is nothing to be ashamed of.. Sucks, but we didn't play bad.

we played terrible the 2nd half of the indy and hou games.

LiL stumppy
11-07-2010, 11:35 PM
we played terrible the 2nd half of the indy and hou games.

Even though we lost both in the last minutes of both games,and it was close at half? :spock:

Bewbies
11-07-2010, 11:35 PM
The Raiders had a great game plan to make Cassel beat them, which everyone in the world knows he is not capable of doing. BUT, the Chiefs left a lot of points off the board in the first half, should have been over at halftime.

Oh well, we'll beat em at Arrowhead.

Three7s
11-08-2010, 12:01 AM
It was actually worse then you think, Chiefs ......

1. were spotted 7 points by the refs on that B.S. pass interference call.

2. Benifitted from bad ref calls against the Raiders

2. were handed the ball on the Nick Miller fumble, That led to another 7 ponts

4. Raiders screwed out of 3 points when Jano missed that field goal

6. Raiders were missing half the team Zach Miller, Aso, Bruce, Rolando, Branch, Chaz, murphy

Can you imagine what the score would have been if they were playing ?

All that and the Raiders still won , wow
I can play the injury game too. McCluster and Lewis out killed us. Doesn't matter though, both teams played terrible and none of them deserved to win. I think Murphy being out was a blessing in disguise, he doesn't blow by Flowers like Ford does.

Lastly, it doesn't matter how many guys are injured or penalties or whatever, your D-line dominated our O-line and that was what won it.

The Bad Guy
11-08-2010, 04:40 AM
Everyone wants to keep crying about that Nick Miller fumble. He was bobbling it when he went to the ground. I don't know why it keeps getting discussed like it was some fuck job for the Raiders when it was coming out.

Also, it took a miracle play by Ford to force overtime. That play happens once a season if that.

Raiders deserved to win, but Raider fan sticking his chest out like they are dominant team is hilarious on here.

Raiders still trail the Chiefs in the division with a much tougher road.

suds79
11-08-2010, 06:45 AM
Bowe is bowe. We need a true number 1, obviously. Bowe would be a great number 2 reciever, but he just isn't good enough to count on as a number 1.

I used to think this but the more I think about it, the more I can't get past this.

What #2 WR would you want who has a problem catching the ball?

He's far too inconsistent for my taste.

Deberg_1990
11-08-2010, 07:01 AM
Casshole is awful. Plain and simple, if you look at his numbers and use that as an arghument that he's good, you don't understand the game. I have never seen so many over/under throws in my life. He threw a pick at the end of the first half, off his back foot, Bowe was wide open behind Moiokiwhatever. Over threw TM on the 3rd and 1.. Over threw many many people, it's just horrible to watch, I hate watching him. I hate that we have put the ball in his hands so many times on 3rd and 1. He doesn't turn the ball over because he either completes 3 yard routes, or over throws every body that's deep, including the safteys.

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Look, i feel your pain, i really do, but awful is a little much.

He did make the big TD throw to Bowe to put us ahead.

However, I cant disagree much with everything you said. I think mainly it feels like the playbook is limited with him or its handcuffed a little. Theres only so many throws hes capable of making. Its easy to see why he was a 7th rounder.

TheGuardian
11-08-2010, 07:05 AM
It was actually worse then you think, Chiefs ......

1. were spotted 7 points by the refs on that B.S. pass interference call.

2. Benifitted from bad ref calls against the Raiders

2. were handed the ball on the Nick Miller fumble, That led to another 7 ponts

4. Raiders screwed out of 3 points when Jano missed that field goal

6. Raiders were missing half the team Zach Miller, Aso, Bruce, Rolando, Branch, Chaz, murphy

Can you imagine what the score would have been if they were playing ?

All that and the Raiders still won , wow

1. Chiefs had holding calls that never happened.

2. Were screwed out of 7 points on a return for a TD because of a BS holding call that happened well away from the play.

3. Had 3 picks dropped.

4. Hali was held the entire ****ing day and was able to get 1 holding call in the midst of the monsoon of flags.

We can play this game too asshole.

Is your numbering system from prison?

tyton75
11-08-2010, 07:08 AM
agree with everythign I read:

just want to add that #34 (daniels)? should be cut from the team after that pussified kickoff coverage that allowed the TD. He should have filled the Hole, but instead looked like a little girl and turned his back away from the blocker

siberian khatru
11-08-2010, 07:17 AM
Raiders deserved to win, but Raider fan sticking his chest out like they are dominant team is hilarious on here.



Bunch of Nov. 7/Nov. 8 join dates. These guys didn't talk until AFTER the game, when they had won. Most of these Raiderettes didn't have the stones to talk trash BEFORE the game, let alone join the Planet years ago (like Ugly Duck did) to engage in the rivalry. Hell, Championship was an annoying douche all week, but at least he ran his mouth BEFORE the game.

It's beyond pathetic.

Buehler445
11-08-2010, 07:22 AM
It was actually worse then you think, Chiefs ......

1. were spotted 7 points by the refs on that B.S. pass interference call.

2. Benifitted from bad ref calls against the Raiders

2. were handed the ball on the Nick Miller fumble, That led to another 7 ponts

4. Raiders screwed out of 3 points when Jano missed that field goal

6. Raiders were missing half the team Zach Miller, Aso, Bruce, Rolando, Branch, Chaz, murphy

Can you imagine what the score would have been if they were playing ?

All that and the Raiders still won , wow
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ROYC75
11-08-2010, 08:29 AM
So what, win some, lose some. Learn from it, move along. This team & coach is young, making a ton of mistakes and we haven't learned the killer approach to putting a team away when you have them down.

On to Denver, time to regroup.

Champ
11-08-2010, 09:01 AM
Bunch of Nov. 7/Nov. 8 join dates. These guys didn't talk until AFTER the game, when they had won. Most of these Raiderettes didn't have the stones to talk trash BEFORE the game, let alone join the Planet years ago (like Ugly Duck did) to engage in the rivalry. Hell, Championship was an annoying douche all week, but at least he ran his mouth BEFORE the game.

It's beyond pathetic.

Thanks for the credit. Unfortunately, your mods felt the need to ban me right after the game for no apparent reason. :harumph:

So I made a new account and will posting under this name until your mods put two and two together, and figure out that I'm back. It probably won't be for a couple of days, though. Since it takes you Chief fans longer to understand things.LMAO

Chiefless
11-08-2010, 09:26 AM
The problem with the passing game is a collective one. Coaching/play design, pass-protection, lack of separation by WR and QB play. All of them are duds. That entire phase of the game sucks moose caulk. I get that Cassle's play leaves much to be desired and I get why. But what do you get when you combine predictable play-design using WRs that can't get open in man coverage with a suspect QB given 3 steps to make a decision on 3rd and 8?

LiL stumppy
11-08-2010, 12:02 PM
I used to think this but the more I think about it, the more I can't get past this.

What #2 WR would you want who has a problem catching the ball?

He's far too inconsistent for my taste.

I actually agree some, I really wouldn't feel too bad if he wasn't on the team too much longer.

Look, i feel your pain, i really do, but awful is a little much.

He did make the big TD throw to Bowe to put us ahead.

However, I cant disagree much with everything you said. I think mainly it feels like the playbook is limited with him or its handcuffed a little. Theres only so many throws hes capable of making. Its easy to see why he was a 7th rounder.

I really think it's appropriate actually :banghead: He is not good. At all. It was a good pass, a post with no saftey over the top should be an easy pass.

So what, win some, lose some. Learn from it, move along. This team & coach is young, making a ton of mistakes and we haven't learned the killer approach to putting a team away when you have them down.

On to Denver, time to regroup.

How I look at it, annoyed at the people who say the season is over.

The problem with the passing game is a collective one. Coaching/play design, pass-protection, lack of separation by WR and QB play. All of them are duds. That entire phase of the game sucks moose caulk. I get that Cassle's play leaves much to be desired and I get why. But what do you get when you combine predictable play-design using WRs that can't get open in man coverage with a suspect QB given 3 steps to make a decision on 3rd and 8?

Maybe a little bit of all of it. But if you ever get a chance to watch "film" on casshole, it's 90 % him. He.Sucks.