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allen_kcCard
11-09-2010, 10:25 AM
There is one spot on my house siding that is rotting that I want to try to repair this week, but I'm not sure what type of siding it would be called to figure out where to go and get more of it to match the rest of the house.

It isn't siding like you typically see, (and that I found lots of on google) with horizontal boards overlapping each other, it is more of a large board like a piece of plywood that is shaped on the finished side to look like larger (like a couple feet) overlaps.


I was going to go to Lowes and just ask there or wander around, but I was going to try to do some research first to know what to look for and wondered if anyone might know what I'm talking about to help put a name to what I'm looking for.


As for the repair, I am hoping I can just find an existing seam, remove the panel or two that has the rot in it, cut one to fit back in (since it is between two windows, one directly above the other) nail it back in, seal the joint with silicone, and then prime and paint the new one. I am hoping the rot is only in the panel itself, else things might get a lot more complitcated on me.


Anyhow, thanks for any thoughts on what kind of siding this would be called, and for any other tips that might come to mind for anyone that has done this before.

mikeyis4dcats.
11-09-2010, 10:28 AM
sounds like T1-11

http://www.roddapaint.com/images/how-to/paint-t1-11-siding-panels.jpg

tooge
11-09-2010, 10:36 AM
A few folks here know what they are talking about regarding siding (Phobia), not sure about the rest. Now, if you were building a doggie ramp.....

allen_kcCard
11-09-2010, 10:37 AM
sounds like T1-11

http://www.roddapaint.com/images/how-to/paint-t1-11-siding-panels.jpg

Yeah, that looks like it might be it....something to start with at least. Thanks!

Dartgod
11-09-2010, 10:37 AM
Sounds like Hardy Plane to me.

mikeyis4dcats.
11-09-2010, 10:38 AM
you have the replacement process down pretty good. Be sure to use galvanized nails, and you probably don't need to prime as most likely the siding will be pre-primed. Make sure you get paintable caulking.

allen_kcCard
11-09-2010, 10:42 AM
Is there typically plywood underneath the siding? Or it is going to be nailed directly to the exterial wall joists?

Dave Lane
11-09-2010, 10:54 AM
Yeah, that looks like it might be it....something to start with at least. Thanks!

Do not use wood unless you paint both sides with 2 layers of paint. Just buy Hardi panels they look just like the pic. It will never rot. The whole exterior of the new section of my house is concrete (Hardi) board.

mikeyis4dcats.
11-09-2010, 11:00 AM
Is there typically plywood underneath the siding? Or it is going to be nailed directly to the exterial wall joists?

usually there will be OSB, but sometimes in some parts of the country you might find something closer to cardboard.

allen_kcCard
11-10-2010, 12:11 PM
Ok, backtracking some.

I most definately have T1-11 on three faces of the house, but the rot is on the front which I see now that I am home (offshift just started today) is completely different. I am thinking it is lap siding there now that I have a good look at it again.

This is pretty close to what it looks like:

http://www.scottspainting.com/images/cottage_lap.jpg

Now though, this opens up a whole new can of worms. If there are 3-4 boards that are rotten, do you have to take down the whole wall of siding? Or is there a way to get the new boards up under ones above them and do it effectively? There aren't really any verticle seams, as the runs aren't long enough that it was needed.

allen_kcCard
11-10-2010, 12:34 PM
Here are pictures of my house itself:

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/allen_kccard/26101987415_ORIG.jpg

allen_kcCard
11-10-2010, 12:35 PM
And a wider view. Ignore the unfinished basement "curtains" and kids abused blinds.

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/allen_kccard/26102064334_ORIG.jpg

JohninGpt
11-10-2010, 12:41 PM
Here are pictures of my house itself:

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/allen_kccard/26101987415_ORIG.jpg


I work in a roofing and siding supply house.
Looks like a product called Smart Siding or Smart Board. Basically OSB with a textured coating.
I don't deal much in this stuff, but I can get it here in the Tulsa area.
If you want, I can get you a ballpark price for the stuff, but I don't know how accurate it will be in your area.

Extra Point
11-10-2010, 12:48 PM
That's kind of a shiplap version of wood composite siding. Print your picture, take the measurement of the pitch (distance between laps) and lengths required-- don't butt any ends together to save a few bucks, if you don't have to. You may have to pry off your plastic shutters, to get to the nails you'll be putting in beneath them. Good luck. Hope you don't find any sin underneath.

Bugeater
11-10-2010, 12:51 PM
The location of that damage tells me that you probably have an issue with the window right above it as well. I wouldn't be surprised if it's rotting out and you just don't realize it yet.

Phobia
11-10-2010, 12:54 PM
It's crap. Garbage. Dave is right. Put on some Hardy siding.

I know a mediocre contractor.

JohninGpt
11-10-2010, 12:55 PM
It looks like the siding was stressed between the windows because the material on either side of the windows did not line up quite right. The installers ended up forcing the runs between the windows into place and nailing it, over time that stress made it crack in the middle.

Bugeater
11-10-2010, 12:58 PM
It looks like the siding was stressed between the windows because the material on either side of the windows did not line up quite right. The installers ended up forcing the runs between the windows into place and nailing it, over time that stress made it crack in the middle.
Look right above the crack, it's water stained. This stuff fails miserably when it gets wet, I see it all the time.

Phobia
11-10-2010, 01:02 PM
Look right above the crack, it's water stained. This stuff fails miserably when it gets wet, I see it all the time.

Yup. I can tell just by looking it's not flashed properly. That finial piece up top precludes it, but gosh, doesn't it look pretty? Bet he's got some water damage under the trim too.

jspchief
11-10-2010, 01:06 PM
The nails are going to be hidden under the lap. A flat pry bar (like a Stanley Wonder Bar) can be slid behind the siding then you can bend the nail out by beating on it with a hammer. You will have to face nail the last piece of replacement siding, but good nails and a little caulking will make that OK.

tomahawk kid
11-10-2010, 01:18 PM
Yup. I can tell just by looking it's not flashed properly. That finial piece up top precludes it, but gosh, doesn't it look pretty? Bet he's got some water damage under the trim too.

I had this exact same thing happen on my house 4 years ago. Windows were contractor grade and we ended up replacing them.

OSB board under both windows we replaced was largely gone (rotten).

We ended up replacing with more smart board siding, but only because we couldn't afford to re-side the whole front of the house at the time.

I have a much better idea what to look for in a house the next go around.

allen_kcCard
11-10-2010, 03:36 PM
Ugh, sounding like something I can't do without fixing or risk it getting really really bad, but there is a lot going on so I'm not sure if I can do it myself, but I can't really afford paying for a full blown contractor that would know how to do it right...not even taking into account possibly finding out my windows are rotting out and have to be replaced.

I should have just started drinking instead of trying to figure it out :P

I want to get in there and take it out to try to find out what I am up against, but I'm worried how bad it will turn out to be and then be betweetn a rock and hard place even more.

Phobia
11-10-2010, 04:07 PM
Just hang one of those big blue tarps over the window and take care of it in a couple years.

Heh. Seriously though - you need help, hit me up. I'll present you with 4 or 5 different options. I've done repairs on a budget before. It doesn't cost much for me to come out and pull some boards off to determine the extent of it.

allen_kcCard
11-10-2010, 04:49 PM
Just hang one of those big blue tarps over the window and take care of it in a couple years.

Heh. Seriously though - you need help, hit me up. I'll present you with 4 or 5 different options. I've done repairs on a budget before. It doesn't cost much for me to come out and pull some boards off to determine the extent of it.

I'm just gonna duck tape it over real good. It'l hold.


Do you have a wait list or anything like that? Or how would we get the ball rolling? My wife said she'd rather not see the front of the house rot off this year.

Phobia
11-10-2010, 04:53 PM
I have a couple projects going right now - but let's schedule an appointment to figure out what we're dealing with.

Extra Point
11-10-2010, 04:53 PM
I'm just gonna duck tape it over real good. It'l hold.


Do you have a wait list or anything like that? Or how would we get the ball rolling? My wife said she'd rather not see the front of the house rot off this year.

The same response can be applied to both your siding and your wife: OPEN IT UP! You only have a few days to do it!

allen_kcCard
11-10-2010, 05:13 PM
I have a couple projects going right now - but let's schedule an appointment to figure out what we're dealing with.

Sounds good. E-mail? PM?

ChiefButthurt
11-10-2010, 05:24 PM
Sounds good. E-mail? PM?

Oh no.....he takes Visa or Master Card. Discover card sucks. Sorry, unknown home repairs suck big time.