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petegz28
11-10-2010, 08:11 PM
(Nov. 10) -- The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a civil rights lawsuit on behalf of a Pennsylvania couple whose baby was taken away from them after the mother failed a drug test. The ACLU says the mom is drug free and blames the failed test on a poppy-seed bagel.

"This was devastating on our whole family," Elizabeth Mort, 21, told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. "I held her for a few minutes, and they took her and left. I was devastated. I just cried and cried and cried."

Mort's daughter, Isabella Rodriguez, was born on April 27 at Jameson Hospital's North Campus in Lawrence County. Before the birth, per hospital policy, Mort was required to submit a urine sample for drug testing. She agreed to the test but reportedly was not told the results.

On April 30, the day after Mort was discharged from the hospital, a caseworker with Lawrence County Children and Youth Services obtained an emergency order and removed the baby from Mort's New Castle, Pa., home because she had allegedly tested positive for opiates.

According to the lawsuit, the level of opiates in Mort's system was well below federal workplace drug testing standards and was caused by Mort ingesting a bagel containing poppy seeds before giving birth. The lawsuit also alleges that Mort passed a subsequent drug test and that Children and Youth Services admitted the mistake, but kept her daughter in foster care for five days before finally returning her to her parents.

The lawsuit, filed by the ACLU in Oakland, Pa., seeks policy changes, damages and attorney fees, the Gazette reported.

"I'm hoping that they'll either change their policies so it doesn't happen to another family or they'll investigate it better before they take babies from their homes," Mort told the newspaper.

Officials with Jameson Hospital's North Campus have not yet commented on the case. According to the Gazette, county representatives said they acted appropriately.


http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/pennsylvania-woman-poppy-seeds-not-drugs-led-to-losing-child/19711181?icid=maing%7Cmain5%7C1%7Clink2%7C24619

chasedude
11-10-2010, 08:15 PM
Drug tests are pushing that 4th amendment line everyday.

Goldmember
11-10-2010, 08:18 PM
Elaine on Seinfeld lost her job because of a poppyseed bagel

Gonzo
11-10-2010, 08:21 PM
Goddammit that's terrible if true.


Oh, and this thread will be off to the DC before too long I'm sure.
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Bacon Cheeseburger
11-10-2010, 08:42 PM
Since when are drug tests mandatory for women who are about to give birth? This sounds fishy.

Simply Red
11-10-2010, 08:43 PM
wonder if that's true, i've heard that since about 1994

Rain Man
11-10-2010, 08:48 PM
Sounds like a good alternative to abortion.

Lzen
11-10-2010, 08:59 PM
Elaine on Seinfeld lost her job because of a poppyseed bagel

That was my thought, as well. Tell the hospital to go fuck themselves, you're not submitting a drug test.

SPchief
11-10-2010, 09:10 PM
Since when are drug tests mandatory for women who are about to give birth? This sounds fishy.

Ill go ahead and speed this up to DC since the guys in the morning will get it ther, but don't hospitals have to take in women who are giving birth?

Bacon Cheeseburger
11-10-2010, 09:17 PM
Ill go ahead and speed this up to DC since the guys in the morning will get it ther, but don't hospitals have to take in women who are giving birth?
That's a good point, what are they going to do if the woman declines the drug test, leave her to crap out the kid in the parking lot?

kysirsoze
11-10-2010, 09:22 PM
That's a good point, what are they going to do if the woman declines the drug test, leave her to crap out the kid in the parking lot?

Probably take the kid for refusing the test. Kinda like losing your license for refusing a breathalyzer.

Simply Red
11-10-2010, 09:22 PM
Has nobody else ever heard that Poppy will cause a posi pot tst? I've seriously heard that for over twelve yrs.

kysirsoze
11-10-2010, 09:24 PM
Has nobody else ever heard that Poppy will cause a posi pot tst? I've seriously heard that for over twelve yrs.

I heard you need to ingest way more than what's on a poppyseed bagel. Then again, that's to get to workplace standards. They said in the article that child services' threshold is much lower.

PornChief
11-10-2010, 09:38 PM
I've heard of people getting arrested in some backwards Islamic country cause they had a couple of poppy seeds stuck to them from a lunch they ate at Heathrow or somewhere. News to me the US can drug test new mothers and take their babies away.

Tylerthigpen!1!
11-10-2010, 09:57 PM
Fuck that.

CoMoChief
11-10-2010, 10:00 PM
the one thing the government is good at is ****ing shit up.

Guru
11-10-2010, 10:07 PM
That is complete bullshit that the hospital will require a urine test before delivering a baby.

cdcox
11-10-2010, 11:16 PM
That's a good point, what are they going to do if the woman declines the drug test, leave her to crap out the kid in the parking lot?

I think all this talk about PIIHB has you a little confused.

Pushead2
11-10-2010, 11:38 PM
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Jawshco
11-11-2010, 12:20 AM
I don't believe it's true. I work with screening clinics with my company and they've told me that the Poppy seed thing is a myth. You'd have to ingest far more poppy seeds than are on a bagel to have it show up as an opiate. Our MRO is pretty good. He also says those detox products are a scam.

DenverChief
11-11-2010, 12:59 AM
I don't believe it's true. I work with screening clinics with my company and they've told me that the Poppy seed thing is a myth. You'd have to ingest far more poppy seeds than are on a bagel to have it show up as an opiate. Our MRO is pretty good. He also says those detox products are a scam.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/poppyseed.asp

Bob Dole
11-11-2010, 04:04 AM
News to me the US can drug test new mothers and take their babies away.

Apparently it differs from state to state. http://stopthedrugwar.org/taxonomy/term/147

penguinz
11-11-2010, 04:59 AM
Elaine on Seinfeld lost her job because of a poppyseed bagelWrong.

Dave Lane
11-11-2010, 06:51 AM
Has nobody else ever heard that Poppy will cause a posi pot tst? I've seriously heard that for over twelve yrs.

Mythbusters did a show on this and they did fail their drug tests by eating a poopyseed bagel and poppy seed cake.

petegz28
11-11-2010, 06:59 AM
I don't believe it's true. I work with screening clinics with my company and they've told me that the Poppy seed thing is a myth. You'd have to ingest far more poppy seeds than are on a bagel to have it show up as an opiate. Our MRO is pretty good. He also says those detox products are a scam.

Not true. I have been asked prior to taking a drug test for work if I had ingested any poppy-seed dressing. Maybe there is more in the dressing than on the bagel?

Phobia
11-11-2010, 08:38 AM
Has anybody noticed that the ACLU is involved? The whole thing might be suspect. I don't believe either side.