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DaFace
11-24-2010, 05:29 PM
Not that it's unexpected, but I feel mildly let down with the new server. I mean, we don't really have any new toys to play with in terms of features or anything. It just works. I've gotten so use to screwing with it in the background every night that now it's like I don't have anything to do.

Don't get me wrong - it's a good thing - just not as much fun as it seems like it should be. Maybe I need to find some new stupid add-on to install just for fun. :D

:sulk:

kysirsoze
11-24-2010, 05:31 PM
Or maybe take up knitting? Or drinking? Something to pass the time.

mlyonsd
11-24-2010, 05:33 PM
It might have been posted some where but I missed. What hardware and OS platforms are we on now?

DaFace
11-24-2010, 05:34 PM
It might have been posted some where but I missed. What hardware platform are we on now?

...

For the record, old specs:

2 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 3040 @ 1.86GHz
4 GB RAM
1 x 250GB HDD

New specs:
4 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5148 @ 2.33GHz
12GB RAM
2 x 250GB HDD

:drool:

Donger
11-24-2010, 05:34 PM
Not that it's unexpected, but I feel mildly let down with the new server. I mean, we don't really have any new toys to play with in terms of features or anything. It just works. I've gotten so use to screwing with it in the background every night that now it's like I don't have anything to do.

Don't get me wrong - it's a good thing - just not as much fun as it seems like it should be. Maybe I need to find some new stupid add-on to install just for fun. :D

:sulk:

Did you guys actually figure out what was wrong? Or did you just decide to send the old server to Davey Jones (or his locker)?

Shogun
11-24-2010, 05:35 PM
More time to download porn

crazycoffey
11-24-2010, 05:36 PM
you could start messing with trolls

DaFace
11-24-2010, 05:38 PM
Did you guys actually figure out what was wrong? Or did you just decide to send the old server to Davey Jones (or his locker)?

We just outgrew the old server, basically. On the technical side, the main issue was RAM. We were on a 32-bit operating system, which only allows 2GB of RAM to be allocated to a single application. Ideally, you want our database backend (MySQL) to have enough memory allocated to it so that all of the indexes can be held in RAM all of the time. For example, when it runs a search, you want the search index to be in RAM so that it doesn't have to parse through millions of posts on the hard drive, which is much slower. We were only able to allocate about 1.5GB to MySQL, and we had a total of around 2GB of indexes, so it was having to use the hard drive for queries a lot more than is healthy.

Our new system has 12GB of RAM and is on a 64-bit OS, so we can allocate pretty much all of it to MySQL if we want to. The way it's configured right now, MySQL gets around 8GB, while everything else gets 4GB (as much as the old server had in total). We'll be tweaking the memory settings as time goes on, but that's the basic idea.

(Hey...you asked.)

mlyonsd
11-24-2010, 05:39 PM
...Did you upgrade the OS as well?

DaFace
11-24-2010, 05:39 PM
Did you upgrade the OS as well?

Small upgrade. We're on RedHat 5.5 now. I think we were on 5.1 or 5.2 before. Plus we went from 32-bit to 64-bit. Other stuff (mySQL, PHP, apache) was upgraded accordingly.

big nasty kcnut
11-24-2010, 05:40 PM
I want tags or let me be a mod.
Posted via Mobile Device

Donger
11-24-2010, 05:41 PM
We just outgrew the old server, basically. On the technical side, the main issue was RAM. We were on a 32-bit operating system, which only allows 2GB of RAM to be allocated to a single application. Ideally, you want our database backend (MySQL) to have enough memory allocated to it so that all of the indexes can be held in RAM all of the time. For example, when it runs a search, you want the search index to be in RAM so that it doesn't have to parse through millions of posts on the hard drive, which is much slower. We were only able to allocate about 1.5GB to MySQL, and we had a total of around 2GB of indexes, so it was having to use the hard drive for queries a lot more than is healthy.

Our new system has 12GB of RAM and is on a 64-bit OS, so we can allocate pretty much all of it to MySQL if we want to. The way it's configured right now, MySQL gets around 8GB, while everything else gets 4GB (as much as the old server had in total). We'll be tweaking the memory settings as time goes on, but that's the basic idea.

(Hey...you asked.)

Yes, I did ask.

Pawnmower
11-24-2010, 05:41 PM
Well from my end it feels awesome....I used to get a ton of lag and it was very frustrating at times....I haven't felt any of that at all...Plus with being able to search it is really really kick ass.

I thank you very much for the time and effort! It is kind of like winning a game of chess (I relate everything to chess LOL):

You can play a good game of chess against a good player really without doing anything really 'brilliant' but the minute you do something wrong, a good player will notice......and you will be summarily destroyed.

The shit that you do behind the scenes to make our site run smooth might not get noticed, but if shit doesn't run smooth you will surely hear about it LOL!

Rain Man
11-24-2010, 05:43 PM
I want some kind of add-on where I can float a battleship around the screen and shoot at other posters.

mlyonsd
11-24-2010, 05:44 PM
Small upgrade. We're on RedHat 5.5 now. I think we were on 5.1 or 5.2 before. Plus we went from 32-bit to 64-bit. Other stuff (mySQL, PHP, apache) was upgraded accordingly.

I can see a big difference so far. Hopefully more RAM and 64 bit will make the difference. I was starting to wonder if there was an issue with the DB so hopefully this will take care of things.

I'm a z/OS and AIX guy so I wouldn't be any help. Congrats to all you guys that are working behind the curtains for the rest of us. If I ever get a chance to buy you guys a beverage they're all on me.

Crush
11-24-2010, 05:56 PM
I want some kind of add-on where I can float a battleship around the screen and shoot at other posters.


This

Buck
11-24-2010, 06:00 PM
Next project, make a Dark theme, sort of like this...

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=26

or this...

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

I can't tell you how much easier those forums are on the eyes.

DaFace
11-24-2010, 06:02 PM
Next project, make a Dark theme, sort of like this...

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=26

or this...

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

I can't tell you how much easier those forums are on the eyes.

I suck at visuals. It's a remote possibility, though.

Buck
11-24-2010, 06:04 PM
I suck at visuals. It's a remote possibility, though.

If its a matter of manpower, I will do anything I can to help.

DaFace
11-24-2010, 06:05 PM
If its a matter of manpower, I will do anything I can to help.

Mainly someone who's good with CSS and has a sense of visual style. It'd be relatively easy to change the colors as long as we keep the headers and everything the same.

I might play with it at some point. No promises - extra styles are a pain - but it's a possibility.

Baconeater
11-24-2010, 06:09 PM
I want some kind of add-on where I can float a battleship around the screen and shoot at other posters.
Why don't we already have this?

AustinChief
11-24-2010, 06:17 PM
Mainly someone who's good with CSS and has a sense of visual style. It'd be relatively easy to change the colors as long as we keep the headers and everything the same.

I might play with it at some point. No promises - extra styles are a pain - but it's a possibility.

Let's hold off on visuals... here is my plan...

I am going to start prepping the server for the new version of Vbulletin... the PLAN is to make a test directory with a copy of the DB and upgrade THAT.. from there we can modify all the themes and get everything tweaked (documenting EVERYTHING as we go...). Once the test forum is how we want it... we can export/save most of the changes, upgrade the actual forum and apply the changes all at once..

That seems like the most painless path to take...

I will probably start on that ASAP so we can take as long as we need to to get it perfect.

Any thoughts?

Oh, and here are the features for the new version..

http://www.vbulletin.com/index.php?do=features

I am probably going to get the full SUITE even if we don't end up using the CMS, BLOGS, or PUBLISHING features... although I would LOVE to have some of you guys write articles if anyone is willing.

RustShack
11-24-2010, 06:20 PM
I think everyone should be given a temp ban card... and they can choose to use it at any time to ban anyone they want for two days.

DRU
11-24-2010, 06:21 PM
Have you guys looked into VanillaForums at all?

Thig Lyfe
11-24-2010, 06:25 PM
I think we should just lose the board entirely and do everything on Google Wave.

KcMizzou
11-24-2010, 06:30 PM
I think everyone should be given a temp ban card... and they can choose to use it at any time to ban anyone they want for two days.LMAO

That could be fun. Although, I bet people would conspire to team up and keep certain others out for a loooong time.

Fritz88
11-24-2010, 06:32 PM
Let's hold off on visuals... here is my plan...

I am going to start prepping the server for the new version of Vbulletin... the PLAN is to make a test directory with a copy of the DB and upgrade THAT.. from there we can modify all the themes and get everything tweaked (documenting EVERYTHING as we go...). Once the test forum is how we want it... we can export/save most of the changes, upgrade the actual forum and apply the changes all at once..

That seems like the most painless path to take...

I will probably start on that ASAP so we can take as long as we need to to get it perfect.

Any thoughts?

Oh, and here are the features for the new version..

http://www.vbulletin.com/index.php?do=features

I am probably going to get the full SUITE even if we don't end up using the CMS, BLOGS, or PUBLISHING features... although I would LOVE to have some of you guys write articles if anyone is willing.

I am pretty sure as time goes by, we will have some of the posters writing articles. I personally think it's an important feature to include at the moment even if we don't think we will need it soon.

Buck
11-24-2010, 06:32 PM
LMAO

That could be fun. Although, I bet people would conspire to team up and keep certain others out for a loooong time.

I would put mine up for sale to the highest bidder.

JoeyChuckles
11-24-2010, 06:40 PM
So should we try to break it now?

Rain Man
11-24-2010, 06:41 PM
I think everyone should be given a temp ban card... and they can choose to use it at any time to ban anyone they want for two days.

If you combined this with my battleship idea, this would be the most popular BB on the entire internet (excluding porn, of course).

Warrior5
11-24-2010, 06:51 PM
If you combined this with my battleship idea, this would be the most popular BB on the entire internet (excluding porn, of course).

Piss on battleships.

How about one of your patented B-17s? You could fly around and drop bombs on posters.

Would especially be a nice touch when someone's about to be banned.... "Opening ban-bay doors..."

Pioli Zombie
11-24-2010, 06:57 PM
Cassel sucks.

DaFace
11-24-2010, 06:59 PM
Let's hold off on visuals... here is my plan...

I am going to start prepping the server for the new version of Vbulletin... the PLAN is to make a test directory with a copy of the DB and upgrade THAT.. from there we can modify all the themes and get everything tweaked (documenting EVERYTHING as we go...). Once the test forum is how we want it... we can export/save most of the changes, upgrade the actual forum and apply the changes all at once..

That seems like the most painless path to take...

I will probably start on that ASAP so we can take as long as we need to to get it perfect.

Any thoughts?

Oh, and here are the features for the new version..

http://www.vbulletin.com/index.php?do=features

I am probably going to get the full SUITE even if we don't end up using the CMS, BLOGS, or PUBLISHING features... although I would LOVE to have some of you guys write articles if anyone is willing.

Yeah, that sounds like a good plan. Based on what I know about vB 4, it's gonna take some major work from a visual standpoint to get it looking good again. They've changed the styles system pretty significantly, so I'm not even 100% sure that we''ll be able to start out with our current style - it may be a "ground zero" setup - so a test server would be nifty.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-24-2010, 07:01 PM
Not that it's unexpected, but I feel mildly let down with the new server. I mean, we don't really have any new toys to play with in terms of features or anything. It just works. I've gotten so use to screwing with it in the background every night that now it's like I don't have anything to do.

Don't get me wrong - it's a good thing - just not as much fun as it seems like it should be. Maybe I need to find some new stupid add-on to install just for fun. :D

:sulk:

This sounds like my wife right before she fucks something up.

DaFace
11-24-2010, 07:02 PM
I think everyone should be given a temp ban card... and they can choose to use it at any time to ban anyone they want for two days.

Heh...that would probably cause the place to implode from all the whining. I have considered doing something like "Donate $5 and get to implement one mod abuse for a week or something like that. It's have to be COMPLETELY manual though, so I doubt it would work very well. It'd pretty damn funny, though.

I just keep trying to figure out something that would be an actual benefit for Supporters without restricting any access to content.

DaFace
11-24-2010, 07:03 PM
This sounds like my wife right before she fucks something up.

Oooohhh...what does THIS button do....?

DaFace
11-24-2010, 07:07 PM
Heh...our server load is currently sitting at 0.23. Before, it typically hung around 3-4 on an average night. And for the record, anything under 4.0 is nifty on our new server, and anything under 2.0 was fine on the old box.

Pawnmower
11-24-2010, 08:36 PM
Heh...our server load is currently sitting at 0.23. Before, it typically hung around 3-4 on an average night. And for the record, anything under 4.0 is nifty on our new server, and anything under 2.0 was fine on the old box.

That fuckign rocks

KcMizzou
11-24-2010, 08:40 PM
Well, now the Chiefs have to win a playoff game and really test this biatch.

Buck
11-24-2010, 08:49 PM
Yeah, that sounds like a good plan. Based on what I know about vB 4, it's gonna take some major work from a visual standpoint to get it looking good again. They've changed the styles system pretty significantly, so I'm not even 100% sure that we''ll be able to start out with our current style - it may be a "ground zero" setup - so a test server would be nifty.

Aren't there templates out there that people have put together that you can download and give the option to each user on what theme they want to use?

Im probably dont understand the whole thing, but it seems like there would be.

I remember when CP went through a drastic visual change about 2-3 years ago and everyone was all mad, but then we got over it after a few days.

DaFace
11-24-2010, 08:52 PM
Aren't there templates out there that people have put together that you can download and give the option to each user on what theme they want to use?

Im probably dont understand the whole thing, but it seems like there would be.

I remember when CP went through a drastic visual change about 2-3 years ago and everyone was all mad, but then we got over it after a few days.

You can have lots of different styles, but it gets to be an enormous pain in the ass to make changes to the site if you have to do them in a bunch of different places. Right now, we have five different styles, so (for example), if I wanted to add a new link under "Chiefs Links" up top, I have to do it in five different places.

Also, "canned" styles look like shit, plus they completely destroy any "brand" you've built. For example, you'd know you were on the Orange Mane even without the logo and colors just because of the way their templates are set up.

teedubya
11-24-2010, 08:52 PM
Well, now the Chiefs have to win a playoff game and really test this biatch.

I approve of this message.

JD10367
11-24-2010, 09:14 PM
Well, now the Chiefs have to win a playoff game and really test this biatch.

Or if Seattle goes into halftime with a lead, LOL.

HonestChieffan
11-24-2010, 09:31 PM
I want some kind of add-on where I can float a battleship around the screen and shoot at other posters.

You don't have it?

noob

Halfcan
11-24-2010, 09:54 PM
Daface you are the man!!!

Buck
07-14-2012, 06:42 PM
Hey Mods, what do you guys think about adding something like this to the site to make a dark theme possible? I brought it up earlier in this thread, so I just thought I'd bump this one instead of making a new one.

http://wrestlingclique.com/imagehosting/thm_14815e01508cc2.jpg

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=201384

AustinChief
07-14-2012, 06:51 PM
Hey Mods, what do you guys think about adding something like this to the site to make a dark theme possible? I brought it up earlier in this thread, so I just thought I'd bump this one instead of making a new one.

http://wrestlingclique.com/imagehosting/thm_14815e01508cc2.jpg

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=201384

I'd have no problem adding a dark theme for users to pick.. but I think we may be better off waiting for the new software. I was planning on installing the new VB4 s/w this offseason but now they are about to release vb5 so I may wait for it. Either way, I think it's a good idea to consider when we upgrade.

KC Tattoo
07-14-2012, 06:51 PM
No thanks.

AustinChief
07-14-2012, 06:53 PM
No thanks.

I think he just wants it as an option for users... I have no problem with that... but no point doing the work on this old software.

KC Tattoo
07-14-2012, 06:56 PM
I think he just wants it as an option for users... I have no problem with that... but no point doing the work on this old software.

That's fine it's not that big of a deal to me. I think change can be cool. The way it is set up now hasn't got us a Super Bowl & sometimes when teams dawn a new uni they become champions much like the Bucks did lol.


I just wanted be different than Buck. What ever he suggest is a no.

Buck
07-14-2012, 07:04 PM
I'd have no problem adding a dark theme for users to pick.. but I think we may be better off waiting for the new software. I was planning on installing the new VB4 s/w this offseason but now they are about to release vb5 so I may wait for it. Either way, I think it's a good idea to consider when we upgrade.

Ok. CP is pretty much the last website I access that is still bright as shit. It sorta sucks for night viewing.

AustinChief
07-14-2012, 07:06 PM
It sorta sucks for night viewing.
So's your face.

Buck
07-14-2012, 07:07 PM
Alright, that theme was free, but a lot of them you have to pay for...like $40 or something. I wouldn't have any problem throwing a nice chunk of that, if not the whole thing your way to add a dark theme. I'm sure a lot of other people would utilize it too.

Let me know when it gets to that point so I can throw you a donation if it's needed.

Guru
07-14-2012, 08:37 PM
Next project, make a Dark theme, sort of like this...

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=26

or this...

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

I can't tell you how much easier those forums are on the eyes.

God I would love a darker theme.

Sofa King
07-14-2012, 08:41 PM
A dark theme would be fantastic.

Buck
07-14-2012, 08:46 PM
Guys, If you want to have a darker theme, I just made a temoporary one. It's a little rough around the edges (mainly because whoever made the art for all the buttons used white as a background instead of black), and I can't figure out how to change the Quick Reply box from light blue to dark grey or red, but I'll post pics and I'll make it available to everyone if they want it as a temporary thing. I think I'm also going to start reading up on this and maybe I can make an actual good one.

Buck
07-14-2012, 08:50 PM
Okay I toyed around with this for a minute. I cant decide whether I like the reddish grey color as the background better or the dark grey color (which is the background color of the OP in the 2nd pic / and I would switch the OP color to the reddish grey). I went with red because it's Chiefs themed.

As you can see in the second pic I can't figure out how to change that box on the bottom from blue to red/grey.

http://i.imgur.com/mdLsB.png

Buck
07-14-2012, 08:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/rowwT.png
http://i.imgur.com/anbX3.png

Guru
07-14-2012, 08:55 PM
I'm liking this!!!!! Code please

Buck
07-14-2012, 08:55 PM
Here it is the other way around.

http://i.imgur.com/bDHCM.png
http://i.imgur.com/RV1Wh.jpg

Guru
07-14-2012, 08:56 PM
I like the red better than the gray

Buck
07-14-2012, 09:00 PM
I'm liking this!!!!! Code please

Just tell me which way you want it and I'll show you how to get it.

I just replied for the first time doing a quote instead of quick reply and this page came up and it's that blue color too. Maybe a mod or admin could point me to what part of the code these boxes are at so I can switch them up.

Buck
07-14-2012, 09:02 PM
Also on the drop down menus on the bottom for searching old threads and the one that takes you back to the lounge or other subforums, the color of the font matches the dropdown background so you cant see the words unless you highlight them.

I'll post the codes in a minute.

You need to have the Stylish extension for Chrome (or Firefox, I think it works the same).

Buck
07-14-2012, 09:06 PM
Here is the Dark Grey Version, The Reddish Grey I will make in a second Guru.

http://userstyles.org/styles/69359/chiefsplanet-dark-gray?r=1342317945

Guru
07-14-2012, 09:07 PM
Also on the drop down menus on the bottom for searching old threads and the one that takes you back to the lounge or other subforums, the color of the font matches the dropdown background so you cant see the words unless you highlight them.

I'll post the codes in a minute.

You need to have the Stylish extension for Chrome (or Firefox, I think it works the same).

installed. The red version please

Buck
07-14-2012, 09:08 PM
Here is the Dark Red version.

http://userstyles.org/styles/69360/chiefsplanet-red-gray?r=1342318087

Guru
07-14-2012, 09:09 PM
Here is the Dark Red version.

http://userstyles.org/styles/69360/chiefsplanet-red-gray?r=1342318087

thanks

Guru
07-14-2012, 09:10 PM
How do I set it so it stays on all the time? Every time I refresh it goes back to white.

EDIT
never mind. figured it out

Guru
07-14-2012, 09:16 PM
OK, this changed the look of cheapass gamer too. What the hell? heh

Buck
07-14-2012, 09:19 PM
What are you using Chrome or Firefox?

You need to go into the Stylish Extension settings in your browser and change it to only effect the URLs starting in http://www.chiefsplanet.com

Also I figured out how to change the reply and quote boxes from blue to dark grey, so delete it and reinstall it.

Guru
07-14-2012, 09:22 PM
What are you using Chrome or Firefox?

You need to go into the Stylish Extension settings in your browser and change it to only effect the URLs starting in http://www.chiefsplanet.com

Also I figured out how to change the reply and quote boxes from blue to dark grey, so delete it and reinstall it.

figured it out right before you posted this. I think the font might need a little tweaking for better balance but I like the look.

Buck
07-14-2012, 09:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/j5HuR.png

Buck
07-14-2012, 09:23 PM
figured it out right before you posted this. I think the font might need a little tweaking for better balance but I like the look.

How so?

Let me know what you think needs to be done with it. Are you talking about the grey font on the red background on the homepage?

Buck
07-14-2012, 09:27 PM
You know what, fuck it, I'm going to make this it's own thread to try to get more feedback from people.

Guru
07-14-2012, 09:31 PM
I think lighting up the red just a bit will help, but not to the point that it looks pink. the gray font just doesn't feel quite right. But I might get used to it.