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LaChapelle
11-28-2010, 10:32 AM
http://view.atdmt.com/M0N/view/202144667/direct/01/ (http://clk.atdmt.com/M0N/go/202144667/direct/01/)
Report: McDaniels explains to coaching staff differences between Spygate I and II (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/28/report-mcdaniels-explains-to-coaching-staff-differences-between-spygate-i-and-ii/)

Posted by Mike Florio on November 28, 2010, 12:24 PM EST

Former Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels has managed to maintain a good relationship with his former boss, Patriots coach Bill Belichick.

Until now.

Jay Glazer of FOX reports that McDaniels met with his staff on Friday to explain the circumstances surrounding Spygate II, which supposedly arose from the one-time-only videotaping of a 49ers’ walk-through practice by a rogue video operator, Steve Scarnecchia. And McDaniels distinguished the situation from the original Spygate, which arose apparently from years of videotaping of in-game defensive coaching signals.

“That was practiced, that was coached, that was worked on,” McDaniels said in reference to the Patriots’ past practices, per Glazer.

McDaniels also warned his staff to keep their mouths shut. “If this gets out, there are jobs on the line,” McDaniels told the staff, per Glazer.

So why did it get out? It possibly had something to do with the fact that, after the 59-14 loss to the Raiders, McDaniels took the staff to owner Pat Bowlen and lambasted them, according to Glazer.

Glazer also reports that there are “raised eyebrows” in the facility, based on the perception that McDaniels threw Scarnecchia under the bus. Which implies that there’s a belief within the organization that, while McDaniels and Scarnecchia didn’t get their stories together after the fact, they possibly got their stories together before the fact.

Indeed, the sense remains that, even though McDaniels claims he didn’t watch the tape and that Scarnecchia acted alone, Scarnecchia was the Dawson and/or Downey in this situation, and McDaniels ordered the Code Red. (Hat tip to FNIA producer Joe Gesue for that one.)

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wazu
11-28-2010, 10:37 AM
Bowlen must have already known. Searched hard to find somebody who could elevate the level of cheating they had already been doing for years.

LaChapelle
11-28-2010, 10:38 AM
Belichick is a dirty cheat
but I hired the guy who did the dirty work

Bowser
11-28-2010, 10:40 AM
This is as good as finding the 100 bucks in your jeans you totally forgot about.

BigRedChief
11-28-2010, 10:40 AM
People around the league are talking about him.

/Haley

rad
11-28-2010, 10:40 AM
We want him on that sideline; We NEED him on that sideline....

Bane
11-28-2010, 10:42 AM
McCamera is the biggest piece of shit to ever become a HC in the NFL.

KCbroncoHATER
11-28-2010, 10:42 AM
He should be fired for this but Bowlen has a lot of power inside the NFL and called off the dogs.

He can't afford to lose McKid in mid season.

Bane
11-28-2010, 10:44 AM
He should be fired for this but Bowlen has a lot of power inside the NFL and called off the dogs.

He can't afford to lose McKid in mid season.

IMO it would be awesome to see the worlds greatest owner have to pay 3 HC's to run his team,but I would much rather McCamera stay for 25 years.

TEX
11-28-2010, 10:46 AM
I could care less about McDanials and Denver cheating. We have known they have been cheating for years. What I care about is the fact that Denver kicked our asses. The Chiefs need to do something about that next week.

LaChapelle
11-28-2010, 10:46 AM
Pioli needs to hire a PR firm
guilt by association everything needs filtered
and spotless

wazu
11-28-2010, 10:48 AM
So why did it get out? It possibly had something to do with the fact that, after the 59-14 loss to the Raiders, McDaniels took the staff to owner Pat Bowlen and lambasted them, according to Glazer.

Seriously, dragging his staff into the owners office to tear them apart in front of the boss? ZERO accountability. Such a weak move. If I'm Bowlen I would have immediately lost whatever confidence I had left in his leadership ability. Only thing to do at that point is dismiss the assistant coaches, and fire McDaniels on the spot Donald Trump-style.

the Talking Can
11-28-2010, 10:48 AM
I could care less sMcDanials and Denver cheating. What I care about is the fact that Denver kicked our asses. The Chiefs need to do something about that next week.

i care


and those cheating mofo's deserve to lose draft picks

BigMeatballDave
11-28-2010, 10:49 AM
I could care less sMcDanials and Denver cheating. What I care about is the fact that Denver kicked our asses. The Chiefs need to do something about that next week.As long as the Chiefs win. That all I care about. Even if its 6-3.

BigMeatballDave
11-28-2010, 10:53 AM
i care


and those cheating mofo's deserve to lose draft picksFor the life of me I cannot understand how they fined Harrison $75,000 for a HIT in a GAME, but slap Denver on the wrist with $100,000.

patteeu
11-28-2010, 10:55 AM
I wouldn't shake the hand of a dirty cheater either.

-King-
11-28-2010, 10:57 AM
This guy makes Herm Edwards look competent.
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BigMeatballDave
11-28-2010, 10:57 AM
I wouldn't shake the hand of a dirty cheater either.Oh, but Haley is a classless dick. Ask Clay.

Bane
11-28-2010, 10:58 AM
This guy makes Herm Edwards look competent.
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Herm's drafting vs McCamera's alone supports this.

TheGuardian
11-28-2010, 11:01 AM
Haley has vindication in every way, shape, and form. Anyone saying he was classless for not shaking his hand now is a fucking epic dipshit. Makes more sense than ever now.

milkman
11-28-2010, 11:05 AM
This guy makes Herm Edwards look competent.
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Don't get carried away.

milkman
11-28-2010, 11:06 AM
Herm's drafting vs McCamera's alone supports this.

Bill Kuharich.

Phobia
11-28-2010, 11:07 AM
Haley has vindication in every way, shape, and form. Anyone saying he was classless for not shaking his hand now is a ****ing epic dipshit. Makes more sense than ever now.

If Haley didn't want to shake his hand then don't walk out to midfield to meet him. The dramatic hand out, whoops routine was pretty immature by almost any standard.

Bowser
11-28-2010, 11:09 AM
Haley has vindication in every way, shape, and form. Anyone saying he was classless for not shaking his hand now is a fucking epic dipshit. Makes more sense than ever now.

I won't go as far as to call myself an epic fucking dipshit, but knowing this now, I've got no problem with what Haley did. Hell, I applaud him for it.

Bowser
11-28-2010, 11:10 AM
If Haley didn't want to shake his hand then don't walk out to midfield to meet him. The dramatic hand out, whoops routine was pretty immature by almost any standard.

Truth in this still, but I can't seem to find it in me to hold it against Haley knowing the facts now.

DenverDanChiefsFan
11-28-2010, 11:21 AM
Can't wait to go to work tomorrow and see how the donk homers spin this.

wazu
11-28-2010, 11:28 AM
If Haley didn't want to shake his hand then don't walk out to midfield to meet him. The dramatic hand out, whoops routine was pretty immature by almost any standard.

This. Although I think you jog out and shake his hand regardless of what you think of him. Take the high road. Don't give the media a story/distraction.

milkman
11-28-2010, 11:32 AM
This. Although I think you jog out and shake his hand regardless of what you think of him. Take the high road. Don't give the media a story/distraction.

First we bitch when no one talks about the Chiefs, then we bitch when everyone talks about them.

Sheesh, just can't make anyone happy around here.

Chiefshrink
11-28-2010, 11:37 AM
If Haley didn't want to shake his hand then don't walk out to midfield to meet him. The dramatic hand out, whoops routine was pretty immature by almost any standard.

He just wanted McVideo to know he had "McCheat Info" on him:thumb: I get your point though.

Marcellus
11-28-2010, 11:52 AM
If Haley didn't want to shake his hand then don't walk out to midfield to meet him. The dramatic hand out, whoops routine was pretty immature by almost any standard.

For just about anybody that post here to make some moral high ground stand over a non handshake is laughable.

The level of irony is epic.

wazu
11-28-2010, 11:55 AM
For just about anybody that post here to make some moral high ground stand over a non handshake is laughable.

The level of irony is epic.

This isn't moral high-ground. It's common sense, don't-be-a-douchebag normal ground.

Marcellus
11-28-2010, 11:58 AM
This isn't moral high-ground. It's common sense, don't-be-a-douchebag normal ground.

BS. Nobody gives a damn except a few people here. Even fewer people give damn now that McFraud has been proven to be a cheater.

Bowser
11-28-2010, 12:29 PM
Just the fact that he has let Cutler, Marshall, and now Hillis go should be reason enough to run him out of Denver, much less this other crap.

LaChapelle
11-28-2010, 12:55 PM
Bowe caught a lot of shit for the "importing" talking out of school
I don't see how this is not along the same line for McPassthebuck

LaChapelle
11-28-2010, 12:56 PM
Running of Nolan should have been a strike as well

Bowser
11-28-2010, 01:02 PM
Running of Nolan should have been a strike as well

And this. Especially this, since Denver's D was so good last year.

Gonzo
11-28-2010, 01:06 PM
This slap on the wrist bullshit by the NFL is laughable. If I were the Pats organization, I'd be throwing an absolute shit-fit in every press conference until something is done. The league is going to sweep this under the rug as much as possible.
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kcmaxwell
11-28-2010, 01:10 PM
I could care less about McDanials and Denver cheating. We have known they have been cheating for years. What I care about is the fact that Denver kicked our asses. The Chiefs need to do something about that next week.

Amen! This is exactly what I was thinking.

T-post Tom
11-28-2010, 01:30 PM
"You weep for Scarnecchia and you curse the Broncos. We use words like vasoline, chop blocks and salary cap deferment."


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DenverDanChiefsFan
11-28-2010, 01:40 PM
http://view.atdmt.com/M0N/view/202144667/direct/01/ (http://clk.atdmt.com/M0N/go/202144667/direct/01/) McDaniels also warned his staff to keep their mouths shut. “If this gets out, there are jobs on the line,” McDaniels told the staff, per Glazer.

Indeed, the sense remains that, even though McDaniels claims he didn’t watch the tape and that Scarnecchia acted alone, Scarnecchia was the Dawson and/or Downey in this situation, and McDaniels ordered the Code Red. (Hat tip to FNIA producer Joe Gesue for that one.)

<!--/post-links-->I had to listen to mcdouche on every fucking newscast last night about how he "made a mistake" for not reporting this.

If this is true, there was no mistake. This is intentional and that makes the $100K even more of a joke.

Anyway you look at it these ass munchers got off cheap. Donks must pay into the commissioners "discretionary fund" and the Pats don't.

TheGuardian
11-28-2010, 01:52 PM
For just about anybody that post here to make some moral high ground stand over a non handshake is laughable.

The level of irony is epic.

No fucking kidding.

He wanted to walk to midfield to let him know what a douche he was. I applaud him for it.

Imagine that, Haley knew more than a bunch of fuckwad posters on Chiefs Planet. Who knew?

Valiant
11-28-2010, 03:09 PM
For just about anybody that post here to make some moral high ground stand over a non handshake is laughable.

The level of irony is epic.


Didn't McDanials do the same thing to Haley last year when we knocked them out of the playoffs with the asskicking??

Bane
11-28-2010, 04:42 PM
Mc Dipshit is the biggest fraud in the history of the NFL as a HC.

JD10367
11-28-2010, 04:46 PM
The Rams are kicking the crap out of them in Denver. Maybe McDaniels should brush up his resume...

Bane
11-28-2010, 04:48 PM
The Rams are kicking the crap out of them in Denver. Maybe McDaniels should brush up his resume...

Like any competent owner would bring him in as anything but a camera guy.ROFL

JD10367
11-28-2010, 04:54 PM
Like any competent owner would bring him in as anything but a camera guy.ROFL

Oh, I didn't say where he should try handing IN said resume, just that he should start polishing it. And practicing the line, "Would you like fries with that?" :evil:

Bane
11-28-2010, 04:56 PM
Oh, I didn't say where he should try handing IN said resume, just that he should start polishing it. And practicing the line, "Would you like fries with that?" :evil:

I bet McBowlen wishes he had that one back.He has definitely set the Donks back years. Which is good.:thumb:

JD10367
11-28-2010, 04:58 PM
And I'll go on the record as saying I never understood the ballwashing McDaniels got. Just because he came from the Patriots doesn't mean he's any good; in fact, going by the track record of coaches who've left (Mangini with the Jets, Crennel with the Browns, Weis with Notre Dame) it was probably a foregone conclusion that he'd fizzle out. So what, he was the QB coach in '04 and then the OC in '07; he had Tom Frigging Brady running the offense, and then got handed Randy Moss. Who do people think was really responsible for the success? Brady, Moss, Belichick, or McDiapers?

Phobia
11-28-2010, 07:19 PM
For just about anybody that post here to make some moral high ground stand over a non handshake is laughable.

The level of irony is epic.

I'm not taking any kind of ground. I'm just calling a spade a spade even though he's my spade. I could care less if he shook his hand and I could care less if he's immature. I'm immature and I love it. What he did was immature too.

SenselessChiefsFan
11-28-2010, 07:24 PM
Bill Kuharich.

Total BS. Your vendetta is clouding the facts.

KC kid
11-28-2010, 07:29 PM
I remember a lot of posters cussing out Pioli for not bringing in McDaniels

Marcellus
11-28-2010, 07:30 PM
I remember a lot of posters cussing out Pioli for not bringing in McDaniels

Please, dig it up then.

Bane
11-28-2010, 07:30 PM
Please, dig it up then.

This.There were maybe 2 or 3 idiots that said that,and I bet they wouldn't admit it now.

Silock
11-28-2010, 07:34 PM
If Haley didn't want to shake his hand then don't walk out to midfield to meet him. The dramatic hand out, whoops routine was pretty immature by almost any standard.

Yeah, but it was hilarious!

FRCDFED
11-28-2010, 07:35 PM
And I'll go on the record as saying I never understood the ballwashing McDaniels got. Just because he came from the Patriots doesn't mean he's any good; in fact, going by the track record of coaches who've left (Mangini with the Jets, Crennel with the Browns, Weis with Notre Dame) it was probably a foregone conclusion that he'd fizzle out. So what, he was the QB coach in '04 and then the OC in '07; he had Tom Frigging Brady running the offense, and then got handed Randy Moss. Who do people think was really responsible for the success? Brady, Moss, Belichick, or McDiapers?It should have been easy to figure out who the real mastermind of the Pats was. BB has been through several coordinators and still continues his success. He doesn't blink when getting rid of Moss and still has success. The man has shit figured out! Call him a cheater or whatever, he knows what it takes to win and say FU to everyone else in the process! I love Haleys attitude...reminds me a little of BB.

FAX
11-28-2010, 07:42 PM
This.There were maybe 2 or 3 idiots that said that,and I bet they wouldn't admit it now.

I'll admit that I thought McDeMille would be an interesting choice for HC. Mainly because of the connection with Cassel and the fact that I wanted a young, offensive-minded coach who could grow with the team and stay for awhile (since continuity in coaching has proven advantageous for many franchises over the years).

Haley wasn't on my radar at all, at the time. I'm really, really glad we got Haley, though. I've liked him from the start and believe he was exactly what this fat, lazy pack of losers needed.

FAX

Bane
11-28-2010, 07:44 PM
I'll admit that I thought McDeMille would be an interesting choice for HC. Mainly because of the connection with Cassel and the fact that I wanted a young, offensive-minded coach who could grow with the team and stay for awhile (since continuity in coaching has proven advantageous for many franchises over the years).

Haley wasn't on my radar at all, at the time. I'm really, really glad we got Haley, though. I've liked him from the start and believe he was exactly what this fat, lazy pack of losers needed.

FAX
Wow!Rep for honesty.:thumb: