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Jilly
11-29-2010, 11:31 AM
FORT WORTH, Texas (AP)—TCU is moving to the Big East Conference, where the Horned Frogs would be BCS busters no more.

A person with direct knowledge of the decision told The Associated Press on Monday that TCU is moving from the Mountain West Conference to the Big East starting with the 2012 season. The person would not comment publicly because the decision had not been announced.

TCU scheduled a Monday afternoon news conference for “a major announcement involving the TCU athletics program.”


The move to the Big East will provide TCU automatic access to the Bowl Championship Series and its five big-money games. That league, currently with eight football teams, has one of six automatic BCS slots.

The third-ranked Horned Frogs (12-0) wrapped up their second consecutive undefeated regular season and Mountain West title with a 66-17 victory at New Mexico on Saturday.

TCU is third in the BCS standings, the highest for a non-automatic qualifying team, and in line for a chance to play for the national championship if Auburn or Oregon lose next weekend. The Frogs likely will play in the Rose Bowl if Auburn and Oregon both win—players were holding roses on the field after their win Saturday.

The only current Big East team ranked in the AP poll is No. 23 West Virginia (8-3, 4-2 Big East), which is 24th in the BCS standings. Connecticut (7-4, 4-2) could get the league’s automatic BCS spot.

But TCU might not have been headed to a BCS game without Boise State’s loss Friday night in overtime at Nevada. Had the Broncos remained undefeated, there was a real possibility that the Broncos could have passed the Frogs in the BCS standings and been the only non-AQ team to get into one of the top-level bowls.

TCU was a BCS buster for the first time last season, then lost to Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl.

The Frogs have won 25 consecutive regular-season games, and 38 of 41 overall. The only losses in that span were in the Fiesta Bowl, and games at Oklahoma and Utah.

With all TCU sports moving to the Big East, it will create a 17-team basketball league.

The pending departure of TCU continues a big shuffle for the Mountain West, which next season is losing Utah to the expanded Pac-12 and BYU, which is going independent in football. Boise State, Fresno State and Nevada are moving from the WAC to the Mountain West.

TCU athletic director Chris De Conte didn’t immediately return messages left on his cell phone.

The school’s release said Del Conte would be present at Monday’s news conference along with school chancellor Victor Boschini.

The Big East will be the fourth conference for TCU since the Southwest Conference broke apart after the 1995 season and the Frogs weren’t among the Texas schools that became part of the Big 12.

TCU was in the WAC from 1996-2000 before going to Conference USA for four seasons and then joining the Mountain West in 2005.

When Nebraska announced it was leaving the Big 12 for the Big 10 and Colorado declared its move to the Pac-10, the Big 12 opted against adding TCU or anybody else and plans to move forward as a 10-team league for now.

Bane
11-29-2010, 11:32 AM
YES!!!!!!:thumb:My 10 year old will love this.

notorious
11-29-2010, 11:32 AM
It makes very little sense. :facepalm:

Zaiko
11-29-2010, 11:34 AM
Poor Boise and Nevada.. Didn't they both just join the MWC to try to get BCS AQ status?

Bowser
11-29-2010, 11:35 AM
That sucks. I was really hoping the Big XII would pull their heads out of their asses and bring TCU into the fold. I knew better, considering who would was in charge of making that call....

BigMeatballDave
11-29-2010, 11:35 AM
They will own that conference. Geographically, it makes zero sense.

We all thought Mizzou was headed to the BIG 10...

notorious
11-29-2010, 11:35 AM
That sucks. I was really hoping the Big XII would pull their heads out of their asses and bring TCU into the fold. I knew better, considering who would was in charge of making that call....

This.

Zaiko
11-29-2010, 11:37 AM
Would TCU even want to join the Big 12? They'd probably get beat down by the various powers over the years and it may revert the status they've achieved now in football.. The Big East seems like a perfect fit for them, other than the location...

They still shafted Boise though lols.

Extra Point
11-29-2010, 11:38 AM
17 BASKETBALL TEAMS??!! ROFL

blaise
11-29-2010, 11:38 AM
TCU will probably get a BCS bowl at least once every four years out of it, but I don't think they'll own the Big East. Not that the Big East is good, but if TCU has to keep travelling to play in Connecticut and Pittsburgh and West Virginia where it gets cold and damp all fall they're going to drop their share of games. Not a ton, but they won't just steamroll the conference, in my opinion.

BigMeatballDave
11-29-2010, 11:39 AM
They still shafted Boise though lols.How is that?

Buck
11-29-2010, 11:40 AM
Good luck in the National Championship Game next year.

The Big East is worse than the MWC was this year.

Saulbadguy
11-29-2010, 11:40 AM
That sucks. I was really hoping the Big XII would pull their heads out of their asses and bring TCU into the fold. I knew better, considering who would was in charge of making that call....

TCU can't even fill their 35,000 seat football stadium on a consistent basis, with a Top 5 team.

No thanks.

Zaiko
11-29-2010, 11:40 AM
How is that?

Because Boise just joined the MWC months ago, and by doing so they were hoping to get AQ BCS status because it would be a more powerful conference than the Big East.

By TCU leaving, it's a sure thing now the MWC will not get AQ BCS status.

Saulbadguy
11-29-2010, 11:42 AM
TCU will probably get a BCS bowl at least once every four years out of it, but I don't think they'll own the Big East. Not that the Big East is good, but if TCU has to keep travelling to play in Connecticut and Pittsburgh and West Virginia where it gets cold and damp all fall they're going to drop their share of games. Not a ton, but they won't just steamroll the conference, in my opinion.

They will be very competitive in football in the Big East. I don't see them winning it every year but they will be amongst the cream of the crop.

Jilly
11-29-2010, 11:42 AM
it's not a for sure deal according to that article....and it doesn't make sense geographically to me.... not even sure about the play of it.... It's hard to measure though, since TCU really hasn't been in a competitive conference

BigMeatballDave
11-29-2010, 11:42 AM
Because Boise just joined the MWC months ago, and by doing so they were hoping to get AQ BCS status because it would be a more powerful conference than the Big East.

By TCU leaving, it's a sure thing now the MWC will not get AQ BCS status.Ah, I see. I knew about BSU joining the MWC.

Zaiko
11-29-2010, 11:44 AM
Boise will still probly generate a lot more $$ because the MWC owns versus but still.. boise fans have to be pissed right now.

Saulbadguy
11-29-2010, 11:48 AM
it's not a for sure deal according to that article....and it doesn't make sense geographically to me.... not even sure about the play of it.... It's hard to measure though, since TCU really hasn't been in a competitive conference

Geographically, it's not that bad. They are right next to a major airport.

BigMeatballDave
11-29-2010, 11:52 AM
Boise will still probly generate a lot more $$ because the MWC owns versus but still.. boise fans have to be pissed right now.They should use that extra cash and build a new stadium that seats at least 70,000.

WilliamTheIrish
11-29-2010, 01:34 PM
They should use that extra cash and build a new stadium that seats at least 70,000.

Why? Nobody will come see them play now. WHo cares if they bring UConn to town?

Zaiko
11-29-2010, 01:46 PM
Why? Nobody will come see them play now. WHo cares if they bring UConn to town?

we were talking about boise

KC native
11-29-2010, 01:53 PM
Poor Boise and Nevada.. Didn't they both just join the MWC to try to get BCS AQ status?

Yes, but that's also one reason TCU is leaving. The MWC used to be an academics first conference but now that Boise has been added, it's clear they don't care about that.

Zaiko
11-29-2010, 01:55 PM
http://www.boisestate.edu/history/center_matters/

I think this page fits..

KC native
11-29-2010, 01:55 PM
It makes very little sense. :facepalm:

I agree. I would have liked to see them pushed to get into the Pac 10 (soon to be 12) rather than the Big East. It's obvious though that TCU isn't afraid to move conferences to improve. We've left the WAC, C-USA, and, now, MWC. Baby steps unless a playoff comes along.

dtrain
11-29-2010, 01:57 PM
That sucks. I was really hoping the Big XII would pull their heads out of their asses and bring TCU into the fold. I knew better, considering who would was in charge of making that call....

Exactly!!! The Big XII should have gotten TCU and Boise St. Time for new leadership.

KC native
11-29-2010, 01:58 PM
Good luck in the National Championship Game next year.

The Big East is worse than the MWC was this year.

Yes, but the move does make sense for TCU. Big East is an AQ conference. With Utah nose diving out of the top 10 and leaving for the Pac-10, this is a no brainer for our trustees. The addition of Boise to the conference didn't really sit well with a lot of TCU insiders due to their low academic standards.

eazyb81
11-29-2010, 02:01 PM
This is fine for football but really screws TCU's non-revenue sports.

And bringing TCU into the Big 12 really doesn't make much sense. Yes they have a good football team, but they don't expand our geographical footprint or add new metro markets.

KC native
11-29-2010, 02:02 PM
TCU can't even fill their 35,000 seat football stadium on a consistent basis, with a Top 5 team.

No thanks.

Even if every living alumni for TCU bought a ticket, we can't sell out the stadium. Also, when you consider what all is going on in DFW and the shallowness of most of the fans here, it isn't surprising. You have SMU in Dallas, UNT in Denton (30 minutes away), the Cowgirls, stars, Mavericks, and Rangers. There is a lot of sports events here so it makes it hard to attract non-TCU people to the games (although this is changing. Crowd composition now to 4 years ago is way different).

Also, our stadium holds 44,000.

KC native
11-29-2010, 02:03 PM
This is fine for football but really screws TCU's non-revenue sports.

And bringing TCU into the Big 12 really doesn't make much sense. Yes they have a good football team, but they don't expand our geographical footprint or add new metro markets.

Yes, I don't think the Big 12 would even want TCU. Why would they add another Texas school?

Zaiko
11-29-2010, 02:04 PM
This is fine for football but really screws TCU's non-revenue sports.

And bringing TCU into the Big 12 really doesn't make much sense. Yes they have a good football team, but they don't expand our geographical footprint or add new metro markets.

Not only does it not make sense for the big 12, coming to the big 12 does not make sense for TCU. I mean as I said, they are a smaller market and they'd get worn down in a few years I think by the southern powers.

The Big East will provide a good stepping stone to establish the school even more as a top program.. not to mention the BCS AQ status with the big east being a joke conference right now.

Wonder how the non-football athletes feel though.

edit: native, isn't baylor only 45 mins away from fort worth as well?

eazyb81
11-29-2010, 02:04 PM
Yes, but that's also one reason TCU is leaving. The MWC used to be an academics first conference but now that Boise has been added, it's clear they don't care about that.

Yeah everyone knows the MWC is right behind the Ivy League when it comes to academics.

How dare they attempt to taint TCU's academic prestige. :doh!:

KC native
11-29-2010, 02:05 PM
Good luck in the National Championship Game next year.

The Big East is worse than the MWC was this year.

Oh, and I do feel bad for SDSU. Their program is really starting to come along. They'll get to play Boise but with Utah, BYU, and TCU leaving, the conference won't be the same.

Zaiko
11-29-2010, 02:05 PM
Oh, and I do feel bad for SDSU. Their program is really starting to come along. They'll get to play Boise but with Utah, BYU, and TCU leaving, the conference won't be the same.

Nevada and Fresno aren't major slouches either.. I think they can replace BYU and some of Utah..

KC native
11-29-2010, 02:06 PM
Not only does it not make sense for the big 12, coming to the big 12 does not make sense for TCU. I mean as I said, they are a smaller market and they'd get worn down in a few years I think by the southern powers.

The Big East will provide a good stepping stone to establish the school even more as a top program.. not to mention the BCS AQ status with the big east being a joke conference right now.

Wonder how the non-football athletes feel though.

edit: native, isn't baylor only 45 mins away from fort worth as well?

Yes, 45 minutes if you drive fast.

KC native
11-29-2010, 02:07 PM
Yeah everyone knows the MWC is right behind the Ivy League when it comes to academics.

How dare they attempt to taint TCU's academic prestige. :doh!:

I'm not saying the MWC is anywhere close to the Ivy League, but Boise...is Boise.

ChiefsCountry
11-29-2010, 02:34 PM
This is fine for football but really screws TCU's non-revenue sports.


So they trade trips to San Diego and Fresno for Syracuse and Storrs. I would venture to say the travel isn't much different for TCU in the Big East compared to MWC. Besides DFW has flights to all those big cities so it would be real easy on travel.