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Zeke
11-29-2010, 12:19 PM
With 5 games left in this season, it's extremely early to project what the front office will do with certain players... But we can certainly look at who is currently projected to return, and what we as armchair GM's would like to see happen.

Quaterback

Matt Cassel (28) - 4 years remaining on 6 yr $63m contract

Brodie Croyle (27) - in last year of 1 year contract. *Free Agent

Running Back

Jamaal Charles (23) - In last year of 3 year contract. *Restricted Free Agent

Thomas Jones (32) - 1 year remaining on 2 yr contract

Jackie Battle (27) - *Restricted Free Agent

Tim Castille (26) - *Free Agent

Mike Cox (25) - *Restricted Free Agent

Tight End

Tony Moeaki (23) - 3 years remaining on contract

Jake O'Connell (25) - Under Contract next season

Leonard Pope (27) - *Free Agent

Wide Receiver

Dwayne Bowe (26) - 1 year remaining on contract after season

Chris Chambers (32) - 2 years remaining on Contract after season

Terrance Copper (28) - *Free Agent

Dexter McCluster (22) - 4 years remaining on contract

Verran Tucker (22) - Signed undisclosed rookie contract. Assuming at least 2 years remaining after season

Jerehme Urban (30) - 1 year remaining on contract after season

Offensive Line

Branden Albert (26) - 2 years remaining on 5 year contract

Jon Asamoah (22) - 3 years remaining on contract

Ryan Lilja (29) - 2 years remaining on contract

Rudy Niswanger (28) - *Free Agent

Ryan O'Callaghan (27) - *Free Agent

Barry Richardson (24) - *Restricted Free Agent

Brian Waters (33) - 1 year remaining on contract

Casey Wiegmann (37) - 1 year remaining on contract

Defensive Line

Glenn Dorsey (25) - 3 years remaining on contract

Shaun Smith (29) - *Free Agent

Anthony Toribio (25) - Undisclosed contract

Tyson Jackson (24) - 3 years remaining on contract

Wallace Gillbery (25) - *Restricted Free Agent after season

Ron Edwards (31) - *Free Agent

Linebacker

Derrick Johnson (28) - 5 years reamining on contract

Tamba Hali (27) - *Free Agent

Demorrio Williams (30) - 2 years remaining on contract

Mike Vrabel (35) - *Free Agent

Andy Studebaker (25) - 3 years remaining on contract

Cameron Sheffield (22) - 3 years remaining on contract

Corey Mayes (27) - *Free Agent

Cory Greenwood (25) - *Free Agent

Justin Cole (23) - *Free Agent

Jovan Belcher (23) - 1 year remaining on contract

Charlie Anderson (28) - *Free Agent

Defensive Back

Eric F*ing Berry (21) - 4 years remaining on contract

Brandon Flowers (24) - 1 year remaining on contract

Javier Arenas (23) - 3 years remaining on contract

Brandon Carr (24) - *Restricted Free Agent

Kendrick Lewis (22) - 3 years remaining on contract

Donald Washington (24) - 2 years remaining on contract

Jackie Bates (24) - Reserve contract (Restricted Free Agent)

Travis Daniels (28) - *Free Agent

Reshard Langford (24) - *Free Agent

Maurice Leggette (24) - *Restricted Free Agent

John McGraw (31) - *Free Agent

Ricky Price (23) - Undisclosed Contract

Special Teams

Thomas Gafford (27) - *Free Agent

Ryan Succop (24) - 1 year remaining on contract

Dustin Colquitt (28) - 2 years remaining on contract


Will post my thoughts following

cdirty
11-29-2010, 12:22 PM
Reup Hali for sure.

and holy fuck i dont even remember hearing Chambers name called all game yesterday.

Sofa King
11-29-2010, 12:24 PM
We better get to signing some guys.

Molitoth
11-29-2010, 12:24 PM
There are a few who can GTFO, including:
Jake O'Connell, Chris Chambers, Ryan O'Callaghan

allen_kcCard
11-29-2010, 12:26 PM
Whatever we do, we MUST draft a QB in the 1st.....ooh...wait........we don't need to now? But everyone said...but I........but you........ok fine.


I'm ok with whatever Pioli decides.

Rain Man
11-29-2010, 12:27 PM
Great summary in the opening post. I want to think about this before responding.

Detoxing
11-29-2010, 12:29 PM
There are a few who can GTFO, including:
Jake O'Connell, Chris Chambers, Ryan O'Callaghan

Ryan O'Callaghan doesn't need to GTFO. He's decent depth and would serve as a serviceable backup.

Chris Chambers will get cut im sure and Jake O'Connell isn't going anywhere.

Hoover
11-29-2010, 12:35 PM
Quaterback

Matt Cassel (28) - 4 years remaining on 6 yr $63m contract

Brodie Croyle (27) - in last year of 1 year contract. *Free Agent He can test the market, willing to resign him if he's cheap

Running Back

Jamaal Charles (23) - In last year of 3 year contract. *Restricted Free Agent Good thing we control him, time to pay the dude.

Thomas Jones (32) - 1 year remaining on 2 yr contract

Jackie Battle (27) - *Restricted Free Agent I'd let him walk, no need to spend money resigning 3rd stringers when you can always find talent at rb

Tim Castille (26) - *Free Agent See ya

Mike Cox (25) - *Restricted Free Agent Will not cost much to sign the guy so get it done.

Tight End

Tony Moeaki (23) - 3 years remaining on contract

Jake O'Connell (25) - Under Contract next season

Leonard Pope (27) - *Free Agent Whatever

Wide Receiver

Dwayne Bowe (26) - 1 year remaining on contract after season Get the checkbook out Clark, time to spend some $$$$

Chris Chambers (32) - 2 years remaining on Contract after season I'd cut his lazy ass

Terrance Copper (28) - *Free Agent see ya

Dexter McCluster (22) - 4 years remaining on contract

Verran Tucker (22) - Signed undisclosed rookie contract. Assuming at least 2 years remaining after season

Jerehme Urban (30) - 1 year remaining on contract after season

Offensive Line

Branden Albert (26) - 2 years remaining on 5 year contract

Jon Asamoah (22) - 3 years remaining on contract

Ryan Lilja (29) - 2 years remaining on contract

Rudy Niswanger (28) - *Free Agent See ya

Ryan O'Callaghan (27) - *Free Agent I'd see if I could sign him for a low price

Barry Richardson (24) - *Restricted Free Agent
again, try to keep him if the price is right
Brian Waters (33) - 1 year remaining on contract

Casey Wiegmann (37) - 1 year remaining on contract

Defensive Line

Glenn Dorsey (25) - 3 years remaining on contract

Shaun Smith (29) - *Free Agent I think this guy has earned a spot, just don't break the bank on him.

Anthony Toribio (25) - Undisclosed contract

Tyson Jackson (24) - 3 years remaining on contract Need to find a trade partner

Wallace Gillbery (25) - *Restricted Free Agent after season

Ron Edwards (31) - *Free Agent See ya

Linebacker

Derrick Johnson (28) - 5 years reamining on contract

Tamba Hali (27) - *Free Agent Big priority

Demorrio Williams (30) - 2 years remaining on contract

Mike Vrabel (35) - *Free AgentThanks, but its probably time to move on

Andy Studebaker (25) - 3 years remaining on contract

Cameron Sheffield (22) - 3 years remaining on contract

Corey Mayes (27) - *Free Agent whatever

Cory Greenwood (25) - *Free Agent

Justin Cole (23) - *Free Agent

Jovan Belcher (23) - 1 year remaining on contract

Charlie Anderson (28) - *Free Agent see ya later dude

Defensive Back

Eric F*ing Berry (21) - 4 years remaining on contract

Brandon Flowers (24) - 1 year remaining on contract

Javier Arenas (23) - 3 years remaining on contract

Brandon Carr (24) - *Restricted Free Agentneed to keep him

Kendrick Lewis (22) - 3 years remaining on contract

Donald Washington (24) - 2 years remaining on contract

Jackie Bates (24) - Reserve contract (Restricted Free Agent)

Travis Daniels (28) - *Free Agent

Reshard Langford (24) - *Free Agent

Maurice Leggette (24) - *Restricted Free Agent

John McGraw (31) - *Free Agent

Ricky Price (23) - Undisclosed Contract

Special Teams

Thomas Gafford (27) - *Free Agent

Ryan Succop (24) - 1 year remaining on contract

Dustin Colquitt (28) - 2 years remaining on contract


To be honest we are in pretty good shape. Clark will need to break open the checkbook to keep guys like Bowe, Hali, Charles, and Carr in KC, but it shouldn't be that difficult.

I also think that sets us up to draft the best possible players. We need a real NT, a rush LB to compliment Hali, and we need to invest in the Oline. We should be able to do that.

Hog Farmer
11-29-2010, 12:37 PM
Dj was just resigned and I think I remember reading they are working on Hali's new contract now so he should get resigned before the season ends.

Cut Chambers and draft a WR in round 1 since it looks like we'll be drafting in the low 30's

Zeke
11-29-2010, 01:10 PM
Cassel will return, undoubtedly... and to the chagrin of many Chiefs fans that still hate the guy. It will certainly be interesting to see what happens with Brodie this offseason. I don't see the Chiefs signing him for more than a single season at a time. He's a filler, there because we have to have someone. Has experience and a wee bit 'o talent. And frankly there's nobody else. If KC drafts someone in the late rounds (which they need to start doing) you still want him here at least for another year so the rookie doesn't get plastered in a bad situation (were Cassel to go down). He's a Free Agent, he's not going to be a starter for this team unless an injury happens. He makes a very good living and has it easy, by all accounts. Does he have the drive to become a starting QB elsewhere? If he does want to go and try his hand, KC will have to bring in a veteran backup and not rely solely upon the draft. Whatever we do - Draft a QB somewhere. Be it 2nd or 7th round.

Jamaal will be resigned. I will tell myself that, ignoring that this might turn bad for the Chiefs not having him re-signed past his rookie contract expiration. Yes, bring TJ back for his last year. He still has been productive, and has been tremendous in the clubhouse. Having a those successful veterans like Lilja, Wiegs, TJ, and Vrabel has helped this team in ways that I don't think any of us will fully understand. Cox will be brought back/I believe Battle will be brought back next year possibly backing up Cox at FB. Castille will not return, we'll draft a RB or look for one in the UFA crop.

At Tight End, we have youth and promise.. we also don't have anything that can be considered a stable force. O'Connell is meh... but young. Pope is a favorite of Haley, and Moe is scary with the inuries... I think we need a TE, but think Haley will have all 3 back. It's definitely not a glaring weakness currently.

Our WR outlook outside of Dwayne is bleak. Chambers is terrible and old (will be cut), Copper is getting old for a Special Teamer\backup type, McCluster has a lot of hype for a Special Teamer\Gimmick player, Tucker is an adequate backup and special teamer (replacing Copper), Urban may be brought back because we basically have nobody else and is under contract. Get a WR in FA and Draft one (or trade for Fitz). This position outside Bowe is a huge weakness and will hold us back offensively for years if not addressed.

Hopefully Barry Richardson can be resigned (at least in my opinion), he' is certainly no world beater but has done well enough for a guy of only 24 yrs age. I'm not sure Waters and Weigmann can survive another year. One of them will certainly retire, probably Weig's. The Rudy experiment is obviously over. We are going to be hurting in the middle next year unless Pioli makes a splash somewhere. We need a Guard and a Center in a bad way for the future. Sign one in Free Agency (Carl Nicks, Ryan Kalil anyone?) and Draft another. Not sure what to think of O'Callaghan still... I think he's probably on the way out to bring in some youth (he ain't a youngin anymore).

Our D-Line has turned out to be much better than we expected. Dorsey is having a fabulous year, they will try hard to bring Smith back, Jackson will be back, and Gillberry has played out of his mind. No idea if Toribio figures into the future plans, Edwards will not be coming back, he's fallen off as the season has gone on. We certainly need to make a splash in the middle. While the outsides are solidified by 4 players, we have nothing in the gut. Sign one and Draft another.

Gotta re-sign Tamba. No if's, and's, nor but's. Re-sign him and pay him. Make him happy. Now, that's 2 of 4 LB spots. He and Johnson can be good players, but I they are both getting there in age (late 20's). Belcher has been adequate, but is more suited athletically to reserve, spot-starting, special-teams. Vrabel is so old that he literally makes me feel young. Studes will be here for awhile but is not ready for the outside. We have to not only hit the Free Agent market here to find at LEAST one starter on the outside, but maybe inside. And we have to draft heavy here in the coming years. Linebacker is without question where we are weakest on this team. Outside of Tamba\Johnson and maybe Belcher\Studes as reserves... yikes. Hopefully Shieffield back next year will help, but I don't think anyone is going to expect much after that injury. Goodbye to Mayes, Vrabel (it's been swell), Cole, Anderson, Greenwood, and possiblly Williams (what a horrible signing that has turned out to be).

The Secondary is definitely something to look forward to in the future. We run 5 deep that are very, very good. Washington has shown his athletic ability at times this season, possibly keeping an extended future here. Langford showed a lot of promise in the pre-season (what happened during the season?). I could see Leggette coming back next season, but he has been not good on Special Teams. Turnover in our secondary will be minimal (McGraw maybe?) and on the back end. We need better depth at Safety (as the Denver game exposed). Don't necessarily need to draft a DB this year, Maybe pick one up in FA to replace McGraw.

In retrospect, the players I would like to see part ways with the team:

RB Tim Castille
WR Chambers, Copper, Urban
OL Niswanger, O'Callaghan, Wiegmann
DL Toribio, Edwards
LB Vrabel, Mayes, Greenwood, Cole, Anderson, maybe Williams too
DB McGraw

spanky 52
11-29-2010, 01:18 PM
Much will depend on a new CBA and what will follow in free agency. A couple of potential FA's could be WR Breston of AZ and OL Mankins of NE. There's a NE/Haley connection. Don't think we'll draft a WR in the first round but wouldn't be surprised to see a trade for Fitzgerald.

Zeke
11-29-2010, 01:22 PM
As far as the draft, what I'd like to see is

1 QB Late in the draft is fine
1 WR (early)
at least 1 Interior OL
Maybe a NT if it fits
**Linebackers... like 4 of them.** :thumb:

In no particular order.

bowener
11-29-2010, 01:34 PM
Wow.

I see the ages and smile. A lot of talent at a very young age!

No Indonesian sex slave jokes.

Chiefs Rool
11-29-2010, 01:37 PM
With 5 games left in this season, it's extremely early to project what the front office will do with certain players... But we can certainly look at who is currently projected to return, and what we as armchair GM's would like to see happen.

Quaterback

Matt Cassel (28) - 4 years remaining on 6 yr $63m contract

Brodie Croyle (27) - in last year of 1 year contract. *Free Agent
Forget about him or sign him to the minimum just in case
Running Back

Jamaal Charles (23) - In last year of 3 year contract. *Restricted Free Agent
This one is tricky, every time we pay a runner, they break the next year and I'm sure he's going to want top dollar, which he deserves, but I dunno, I just don't know. I love JC, but history scares me
Thomas Jones (32) - 1 year remaining on 2 yr contract

Jackie Battle (27) - *Restricted Free Agent
he can walk
Tim Castille (26) - *Free Agent
I'd keep him around if he can get healthy
Mike Cox (25) - *Restricted Free Agent
why not keep him
Tight End

Tony Moeaki (23) - 3 years remaining on contract

Jake O'Connell (25) - Under Contract next season
gtfo
Leonard Pope (27) - *Free Agent
whatever
Wide Receiver

Dwayne Bowe (26) - 1 year remaining on contract after season

Chris Chambers (32) - 2 years remaining on Contract after season
cut him
Terrance Copper (28) - *Free Agent
nah, pass
Dexter McCluster (22) - 4 years remaining on contract

Verran Tucker (22) - Signed undisclosed rookie contract. Assuming at least 2 years remaining after season

Jerehme Urban (30) - 1 year remaining on contract after season

Offensive Line

[/B]]Branden Albert (26) - 2 years remaining on 5 year contract

Jon Asamoah (22) - 3 years remaining on contract

Ryan Lilja (29) - 2 years remaining on contract

Rudy Niswanger (28) - *Free Agent
whatever
Ryan O'Callaghan (27) - *Free Agent
gtfo
Barry Richardson (24) - *Restricted Free Agent
only on the dirt cheap
Brian Waters (33) - 1 year remaining on contract

Casey Wiegmann (37) - 1 year remaining on contract

Defensive Line

Glenn Dorsey (25) - 3 years remaining on contract

Shaun Smith (29) - *Free Agent
don't overpay, but it would be good to have him back next year, but I wouldn't pay too much on him
Anthony Toribio (25) - Undisclosed contract

Tyson Jackson (24) - 3 years remaining on contract

Wallace Gillbery (25) - *Restricted Free Agent after season
keep him if it's cheap
Ron Edwards (31) - *Free Agent
whatever
Linebacker

Derrick Johnson (28) - 5 years reamining on contract

Tamba Hali (27) - *Free Agent
I really want us to resign him, he's been awesome
Demorrio Williams (30) - 2 years remaining on contract
cut him
Mike Vrabel (35) - *Free Agent
let him go
Andy Studebaker (25) - 3 years remaining on contract

Cameron Sheffield (22) - 3 years remaining on contract

Corey Mayes (27) - *Free Agent
whatever
Cory Greenwood (25) - *Free Agent
bye
Justin Cole (23) - *Free Agent
bye
Jovan Belcher (23) - 1 year remaining on contract

Charlie Anderson (28) - *Free Agent
bye
Defensive Back

Eric F*ing Berry (21) - 4 years remaining on contract

Brandon Flowers (24) - 1 year remaining on contract
EXTEND HIS CONTRACT NOW TO BIG TIME MONEY
Javier Arenas (23) - 3 years remaining on contract

Brandon Carr (24) - *Restricted Free Agent
yes, resign him, it might be expensive, but a 5 yr $20 mil would be good
Kendrick Lewis (22) - 3 years remaining on contract

Donald Washington (24) - 2 years remaining on contract

Jackie Bates (24) - Reserve contract (Restricted Free Agent)

Travis Daniels (28) - *Free Agent
let's keep him for cheap
Reshard Langford (24) - *Free Agent
has he played?
Maurice Leggette (24) - *Restricted Free Agent
he's still here?
John McGraw (31) - *Free Agent
vet minimum only
Ricky Price (23) - Undisclosed Contract

Special Teams

Thomas Gafford (27) - *Free Agent

Ryan Succop (24) - 1 year remaining on contract

Dustin Colquitt (28) - 2 years remaining on contract


Will post my thoughts following

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okiedokieokoye
11-29-2010, 01:57 PM
As far as TE goes...what about Cottam? Is he still officially with this team? I thought he was...I wouldn't mind having him as Mo's backup over O'Connel

Zeke
11-29-2010, 01:59 PM
Cottam was actually on the PUP list, and is a RFA after this season. I don't see him coming back.

Chiefnj2
11-29-2010, 02:08 PM
Hali, Carr, Charles, Richardson, Gilberry and Smith should be the focus of the FA's and RFA's to resign.

Zeke
11-29-2010, 02:22 PM
The best part of this entire season is the number of guys that nothing was expected from, however have developed right before our eyes. Or they were ok players, having transformed into good players. After the last few years' lack of development, it is truly a welcome sight.

People were very down on the Moeaki and Arenas picks. The one pick that had people excited was Asamoah, however he has contributed next to nothing with this year's team. I think he has a long career ahead of him though. People wanted Bowe gone. He's now one of the best WR's in the entire NFL. Lilja, Wiegs and Waters have all played well... lilja and wiegs especially. Richardson was about on the dumpster in the minds of many. He has developed into an extremely serviceable Right Tackle. Glenn Dorsey? wow, he's come into his own. Shaun Smith? Was an afterthought when signed. Gillberry has been one of the biggest surprises on the team this season. Johnson is playing well, Belcher has done well at times. Flowers has blossomed (I couldn't resist), Carr has shown he is a quality corner consistently... where did Lewis come from? Washington is finally showing enough to warrant getting on the field.

To me, this is what is exciting to see.

the Talking Can
11-29-2010, 02:27 PM
break out the checkbook, Clark....

notorious
11-29-2010, 02:36 PM
I can see us getting rid of a lot of shit.


Next offseason is going to be about improving the middle and bottom of the roster instead of the top again.

PGM
11-29-2010, 02:37 PM
They reeeaaalllly need another pass rusher.