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Pushead2
11-30-2010, 10:59 AM
Sorry if repost....

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/11/30/1846425/chiefs-chargers-not-flexed-in-week-14-eagles-cowboys-remains-on

Kansas City Chiefs fans were hoping the Dec. 12 game against the San Diego Chargers would be part of the NFL's flex schedule moving it to Sunday night. Though there were no indications that would happen, we still held out hope.

There's no more hoping because it's official: Chiefs-Chargers will not be flexed to Sunday Night Football. The NFL announced on Tuesday that the Philadelphia Eagles and Dallas Cowboys game originally scheduled for Sunday night will remain in place.

The only game moving is the New England Patriots and Chicago Bears game which moves from early to late afternoon.

The Eagles-Cowboys will likely draw big ratings. To be a Cowboys fan, you can't be from Dallas so they have a huge fan base and then there's the Michael Vick factor for the Eagles. I understand the NFL's reasoning for keeping Eagles-Cowboys but I think we can all agree that Chiefs-Chargers is a game that actually means something.

I just wish it wasn't always about money (though I do understand why it is).

Detoxing
11-30-2010, 11:02 AM
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

As a Chief fan, I wouldn't want to watch my team have to play a hot team like the Chargers in SD in primetime. The fans would be crazy hyped up and so would the Chargers. The Chargers play extremely well under the big lights

And As a Chief fan living in San Diego, the blackouts worry me and I might miss my only game of the season because of the stupid Charger fans not showing up.

loochy
11-30-2010, 11:02 AM
Serioulsy? They are going to show a game that contains a horrible Dallas team that will not make the playoffs over a critical division game with intense playoff implcations? F the NFL.

mcaj22
11-30-2010, 11:06 AM
Cowboys could be fucking 0-12 right now and would still never have a prime time game of theirs flexed out.

Pushead2
11-30-2010, 11:08 AM
It's bullshit.....but I guess they think "they had their 1 game" in primetime so we aren't showing the same game again.

Not even the Bears-Patriots were flexed into the night schedule. They were pushed to a 4pm start.

The Bad Guy
11-30-2010, 11:09 AM
I'd rather play in Prime Time. It's an absolute fucking joke that the NFL would keep the fucking shitdick Cowboys in Prime time in a game they are likely going to get their shit pushed in.

Old Dog
11-30-2010, 11:10 AM
There was no way NBC ws flexing out of Vick OR Dallas, let alone both. I don't understand how this suprises anyone.

CoMoChief
11-30-2010, 11:11 AM
More east coast bullshit.

It really sucks that EVERY prime-time game (on major networks) features a team from the east coast.....the only exception to that is Peyton Manning and the Dallas Cowboys. I would also include Pittsburgh with that as well, they're close enough to the east coastern region.

This just proves it doesn't matter how shitty the teams are, they will always favor the teams out east, because of the market area.

Fucking bullshit. These teams get 3 games a year on primetime it seems like (at least).

CoMoChief
11-30-2010, 11:12 AM
There was no way NBC ws flexing out of Vick OR Dallas, let alone both. I don't understand how this suprises anyone.

It doesn't surprise anyone.....it's just pisses everyone off.

Deberg_1990
11-30-2010, 11:13 AM
Translation: Cowboys and Eagles will draw higher ratings than Chiefs and Chargers.

Chiefnj2
11-30-2010, 11:13 AM
More east coast bullshit.

It really sucks that EVERY prime-time game (on major networks) features a team from the east coast.....the only exception to that is Peyton Manning and the Dallas Cowboys. I would also include Pittsburgh with that as well, they're close enough to the east coastern region.

This just proves it doesn't matter how shitty the teams are, they will always favor the teams out east, because of the market area.

****ing bullshit. These teams get 3 games a year on primetime it seems like (at least).

Put up better ratings and you'll get the games.

Pushead2
11-30-2010, 11:14 AM
It doesn't surprise anyone.....it's just pisses everyone off.

this

Buck
11-30-2010, 11:14 AM
I predicted this very thing a while ago and a lot of people here thought I was wrong because the Cowboys were like 1-6 or something at the time.

Deberg_1990
11-30-2010, 11:15 AM
Cowboys could go 0-16 and still get 3 primetime games the next year.

Thats just the way it is...Flagship team.

Buck
11-30-2010, 11:17 AM
On another note, I recall a Chiefs @ Chargers game flexed to primetime in 2006.

I wonder what the ratings were for that game.

Brock
11-30-2010, 11:18 AM
Chiefs-Raiders drew huge ratings a couple of weeks ago.

Chiefnj2
11-30-2010, 11:18 AM
Chiefs-Raiders drew huge ratings a couple of weeks ago.

Because of the Raiders.

Dayze
11-30-2010, 11:19 AM
yet another national game I won't be watching.

Chargers and Colts was the first national game I've watched this year (aside from being at Arrohead on MNF).

Brock
11-30-2010, 11:20 AM
Because of the Raiders.

I doubt it.

RedThat
11-30-2010, 11:21 AM
I guess the Cowboys could go 1-15 and be one of those teams that the media will still love?

CoMoChief
11-30-2010, 11:22 AM
Put up better ratings and you'll get the games.

You do know that ratings and population are pretty much one of the same right?

KC can't control what market they're in (well of course unless they move to another city).

You're talking 25% of the US population living out east, from NY area all the way down to Florida/Gulf area.

These teams could be in the league cellar right now and they still wouldn't change the matchup.

OnTheWarpath58
11-30-2010, 11:23 AM
On another note, I recall a Chiefs @ Chargers game flexed to primetime in 2006.

I wonder what the ratings were for that game.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/ratings/2006/12/18/nbc-snf-up-16-percent-over-last-years-week-15-mnf-game-23124/20061218nbc01/

15.3 Million viewers, a 10.4 overnight and a 16 share.

Buck
11-30-2010, 11:24 AM
I doubt it.

It helps when it is one of only 3 games playing at the time and its being shown to the entire West Coast and Midwest.

Buck
11-30-2010, 11:25 AM
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/ratings/2006/12/18/nbc-snf-up-16-percent-over-last-years-week-15-mnf-game-23124/20061218nbc01/

15.3 Million viewers, a 10.4 overnight and a 16 share.

I'm assuming that is pretty good?

I'd imagine people would watch just because its a battle for first.

Hydrae
11-30-2010, 11:26 AM
Put up better ratings and you'll get the games.

Have to have games during prime time to even put any ratings at all.

Pushead2
11-30-2010, 11:27 AM
I'm assuming that is pretty good?

I'd imagine people would watch just because its a battle for first.

I would agree, but I would think of the Bears-Patriots would be a shoe in too......but it's the Vick-America's team shit show.

OnTheWarpath58
11-30-2010, 11:28 AM
I'm assuming that is pretty good?

I'd imagine people would watch just because its a battle for first.

I have no idea.

I'm surprised that people are surprised. Even if they had moved out of the Philly game, the Patriots and Bears likely would have been moved to SNF, not KC/SD.

Personally, I could give a shit when they play.

Buck
11-30-2010, 11:28 AM
What do you know, the Eagles vs Cowboys played the very next week on SNF and had 23.2 Million viewers, a 12.5 overnight, and a 29 share.

Dont know what any of that means, except for the number of viewers.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/ratings/2006/12/26/eagles-cowboys-on-nbc-highest-rated-christmas-day-nfl-game-since-1993-23161/20061226nbc01/

Buck
11-30-2010, 11:30 AM
Yeah, this game will pull in the New York Market, as they'll be watching the game closely. Probably the DC Market too.

JD10367
11-30-2010, 11:33 AM
It's all about two things: national draw, and media-market size. Dallas and Philly will garner much higher ratings than San Diego and Kansas City.

ArrowheadMagic
11-30-2010, 11:34 AM
Besides, SD plays the thursday after that game.

KCtotheSB
11-30-2010, 11:35 AM
I was really holding out hope that the NFL would come to its senses and the KC/SD game would get flexed, but why am I not f**king surprised that we're stuck with a shitty ass Cowboys team playing the new media darling Michael Vick and the Eagles?

Even worse, the NE/CHI game gets moved to the 4:15 EST start time on CBS to prevent the KC/SD game from getting a national audience.

Just goddamn ridiculous...but hey, I haven't seen enough of the NFC East this season, so it's finally good to see that division getting some exposure to the nation.

CoMoChief
11-30-2010, 11:36 AM
Wow, just looking at Wiki on how much the NFL makes on networks televising NFL games. Damn this sport makes a SHIT TON of $$$.

AFC pkg (CBS) - $623 Million/year
NFC pkg (FOX) - $713 Million/year
SNF pkg (NBC) - $650 Million/year
MNF pkg (ESPN) - $1.1 Billion/year
NFL Sunday Ticket (Direct TV) - $700 Million/year

TOTAL - approx $3.8 BILLION/year

OnTheWarpath58
11-30-2010, 11:39 AM
Besides, SD plays the thursday after that game.


There's your answer, folks.

And they are currently the Sunday Night game the week after that, FWIW.

Dayze
11-30-2010, 11:39 AM
Wow, just looking at Wiki on how much the NFL makes on networks televising NFL games. Damn this sport makes a SHIT TON of $$$.

AFC pkg (CBS) - $623 Million/year
NFC pkg (FOX) - $713 Million/year
SNF pkg (NBC) - $650 Million/year
MNF pkg (ESPN) - $1.1 Billion/year
NFL Sunday Ticket (Direct TV) - $700 Million/year

TOTAL - approx $3.8 BILLION/year

is that the figure that's divided up among the teams?

LaChapelle
11-30-2010, 11:41 AM
Why flex to game with empty seats
Do the Chargers have a home field advantage even close to other teams

Deberg_1990
11-30-2010, 11:43 AM
Theres a chance the Chiefs/Titans game gets flexed in week 16...but the Titans need to start playing better obviously..

OnTheWarpath58
11-30-2010, 11:49 AM
Theres a chance the Chiefs/Titans game gets flexed in week 16...but the Titans need to start playing better obviously..

Both teams could win every game from here to there, and they'll still flex either Jets-Bears or Giants-Packers.

MIAdragon
11-30-2010, 11:52 AM
Translation: Cowboys and Eagles will draw higher ratings than Chiefs and Chargers.

Sad but true.

CoMoChief
11-30-2010, 11:57 AM
is that the figure that's divided up among the teams?

I would think so since they get to share the money that comes in from the TV networks.....but I'm not sure how much of that, what % etc....it didn't exactly say.

vailpass
11-30-2010, 11:58 AM
Serioulsy? They are going to show a game that contains a horrible Dallas team that will not make the playoffs over a critical division game with intense playoff implcations? F the NFL.

AFC West is hardly a critical division. Be real. Philly-Dallas is a big-time rivalry that will draw MANY more viewers.

KChiefs1
11-30-2010, 11:58 AM
The Cowgirls???????

notorious
11-30-2010, 12:01 PM
Not surprised or pissed.


When KC starts beating the big boys we will start to get national attention. Up until now we have only beaten our meat.

HemiEd
11-30-2010, 12:04 PM
Both teams could win every game from here to there, and they'll still flex either Jets-Bears or Giants-Packers.

It just sucks that the Bears are having a good season on so many fronts. :banghead:

OnTheWarpath58
11-30-2010, 12:06 PM
It just sucks that the Bears are having a good season on so many fronts. :banghead:

Yeah, I've noticed that all the people that said the Bears were terrible and that they wouldn't make the playoffs with Cutler at QB have all gone into hiding.

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-30-2010, 12:06 PM
I'd have watched Bears-Pats, but F the 'Boys.

thabear
11-30-2010, 12:10 PM
Glad I'll be going to this game with 2 Chargers fans and 4 Chiefs fans......Anybody else going?

Mr. Arrowhead
11-30-2010, 12:13 PM
really sucks for me, my wife graduates at the time of the game, so it looks like its DVR time and no chiefsplanet until afterwards.

Brock
11-30-2010, 12:15 PM
really sucks for me, my wife graduates at the time of the game, so it looks like its DVR time and no chiefsplanet until afterwards.

Marrying them while they're still in high school has a price.

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-30-2010, 12:16 PM
I think the Chargers are already scheduled for the maximum amount of primetime games anyway.

HemiEd
11-30-2010, 12:49 PM
Yeah, I've noticed that all the people that said the Bears were terrible and that they wouldn't make the playoffs with Cutler at QB have all gone into hiding.

The first game of the season for the Bears and Lions was huge.

If it goes the Lions way, they may have excorcized a demon that has been haunting their program for a long time.

If they would have left Chicago with a win, I can't help but feel both teams seasons would have gone the other way.

chiefqueen
11-30-2010, 12:53 PM
I think the Chargers are already scheduled for the maximum amount of primetime games anyway.

Yea, but they will probably lose one on 12/26 (vs. Cincy) when that becomes a day game (hopefully 1:00).

DBOSHO
11-30-2010, 12:54 PM
I honestly believe noone likes the cowboys besides the cowboys, and espn.

DJ's left nut
11-30-2010, 12:56 PM
Good.

I don't want the Chiefs putting any more pressure on themselves than necessary.

Go to SD and take care of business. Don't worry about the prime-time lights or any of that crap. The closer we can stay to the routine, the better.

OnTheWarpath58
11-30-2010, 01:08 PM
Good.

I don't want the Chiefs putting any more pressure on themselves than necessary.

Go to SD and take care of business. Don't worry about the prime-time lights or any of that crap. The closer we can stay to the routine, the better.

Couldn't agree more.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-30-2010, 01:08 PM
LOL because everyone wants to see a horrible Cowboys team and a dog killer. America, you make me sick.

mikey23545
11-30-2010, 01:14 PM
Yeah, I've noticed that all the people that said the Bears were terrible and that they wouldn't make the playoffs with Cutler at QB have all gone into hiding.

Just like most of the drafturbators?

mikey23545
11-30-2010, 01:18 PM
I just wish it wasn't always about money (though I do understand why it is).

I hope Philly is up by 35 at the end of the first quarter and all their viewers are watching "Little House on the Prairie" reruns by halftime...

Chiefnj2
11-30-2010, 01:20 PM
Just like most of the drafturbators?

They'll be back in full force the earlier of: (a) Cassel has a bad game, or (b) KC loses to SD, or (c) KC doesn't make the playoffs, or (d) KC loses a postseason game.

Then we will be full of "Pioli sucks", "the Patriot way", "the right 53" ...

OnTheWarpath58
11-30-2010, 01:23 PM
Just like most of the drafturbators?

Feel free to explain.

Thus far, this draft class, while promising, hasn't collectively played anywhere near as good as people claimed they would.

Mainly because people on this board expect young players to be incredible right out of the gate.

Example: How great our return game was going to be.

Yeah, not so much.

Berry's starting to get it, Arenas has played well, and Dexter and Moeaki have missed time, which was a major concern for many people.

Not sure your point here, other than to fail miserably taking a swipe at a group of people you don't care for.

Hydrae
11-30-2010, 01:25 PM
I honestly believe noone likes the cowboys besides the cowboys, and espn.

You obviously have not lived in Texas. Living in Austin I don't which is a bigger deal, the Cowboys or the Longhorns.

mikey23545
11-30-2010, 01:26 PM
They'll be back in full force the earlier of: (a) Cassel has a bad game, or (b) KC loses to SD, or (c) KC doesn't make the playoffs, or (d) KC loses a postseason game.

Then we will be full of "Pioli sucks", "the Patriot way", "the right 53" ...

It's incredible how Mecca, Dane, and all the rest of that crowd went from generating 4000 posts a week to about 6 a week...

Of course, they all got incredibly busy with work, school, pussy or whatever at the same time

Chiefs Pantalones
11-30-2010, 01:28 PM
WTF is a drafturbator?

Coogs
11-30-2010, 01:28 PM
I find it more interesting they moved the Patriots at Bears game to go head-to-head on CBS with several good late afternoon matchups...

Thursday , Dec. 09 Time (ET)
Colts at Titans 8:20 PM NFL

Sunday , Dec. 12
Falcons at Panthers 1:00 PM FOX
Browns at Bills 1:00 PM CBS
Packers at Lions 1:00 PM FOX
Raiders at Jaguars 1:00 PM CBS
Bengals at Steelers 1:00 PM CBS
Patriots at Bears 1:00 PM CBS
Giants at Vikings 1:00 PM FOX
Buccaneers at Redskins 1:00 PM FOX
Rams at Saints 4:05 PM FOX
Seahawks at 49ers 4:05 PM FOX
Broncos at Cardinals 4:15 PM CBS
Dolphins at Jets 4:15 PM CBS
Chiefs at Chargers 4:15 PM CBS
Eagles at Cowboys 8:20 PM NBC

Monday , Dec. 13
Ravens at Texans 8:30 PM ESP

OnTheWarpath58
11-30-2010, 01:33 PM
It's incredible how Mecca, Dane, and all the rest of that crowd went from generating 4000 posts a week to about 6 a week...

Of course, they all got incredibly busy with work, school, pussy or whatever at the same time

Can't speak for Mecca Or Dane, but Hamas and I spend less time here between Thanksgiving and Christmas, and after the draft to late May.

He's grading papers and I'm writing them.

Think whatever you want though.

Wait, who are you again?

Buck
11-30-2010, 01:35 PM
I find it more interesting they moved the Patriots at Bears game to go head-to-head on CBS with several good late afternoon matchups...

Thursday , Dec. 09 Time (ET)
Colts at Titans 8:20 PM NFL

Sunday , Dec. 12
Falcons at Panthers 1:00 PM FOX
Browns at Bills 1:00 PM CBS
Packers at Lions 1:00 PM FOX
Raiders at Jaguars 1:00 PM CBS
Bengals at Steelers 1:00 PM CBS
Patriots at Bears 1:00 PM CBS
Giants at Vikings 1:00 PM FOX
Buccaneers at Redskins 1:00 PM FOX
Rams at Saints 4:05 PM FOX
Seahawks at 49ers 4:05 PM FOX
Broncos at Cardinals 4:15 PM CBS
Dolphins at Jets 4:15 PM CBS
Chiefs at Chargers 4:15 PM CBS
Eagles at Cowboys 8:20 PM NBC

Monday , Dec. 13
Ravens at Texans 8:30 PM ESP

That is some bullshit.

This is one of the most important games in the NFL this year and it will be seen by probably 10% or less of the country.

DJ's left nut
11-30-2010, 01:35 PM
Feel free to explain.

Thus far, this draft class, while promising, hasn't collectively played anywhere near as good as people claimed they would.

Mainly because people on this board expect young players to be incredible right out of the gate.

Example: How great our return game was going to be.

Yeah, not so much.

Berry's starting to get it, Arenas has played well, and Dexter and Moeaki have missed time, which was a major concern for many people.

Not sure your point here, other than to fail miserably taking a swipe at a group of people you don't care for.

Uh...yeah, I don't believe most of the more critical voices have gone anywhere.

Nor have the homers been 'vindicated'. Arenas still hasn't lived up to a 2nd round pick, nor has McCluster. Jackson is still awful and Cassel still has more poor games to his credit this season than excellent ones. At the same time, I've given credit for the Moeaki pick and acknowledged that Cassel has improved more than I thought he would.

Nothing like painting (poorly) with a broad brush, eh?

OnTheWarpath58
11-30-2010, 01:38 PM
Uh...yeah, I don't believe most of the more critical voices have gone anywhere.

Nor have the homers been 'vindicated'. Arenas still hasn't lived up to a 2nd round pick, nor has McCluster. Jackson is still awful and Cassel still has more poor games to his credit this season than excellent ones. At the same time, I've given credit for the Moeaki pick and acknowledged that Cassel has improved more than I thought he would.

Nothing like painting (poorly) with a broad brush, eh?

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/529676/haters_gonna_hate.gif

bevischief
11-30-2010, 01:41 PM
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/529676/haters_gonna_hate.gif

ROFL

Lzen
11-30-2010, 01:51 PM
I hope Philly is up by 35 at the end of the first quarter and all their viewers are watching "Little House on the Prairie" reruns by halftime...

This.

WebGem
11-30-2010, 01:52 PM
Whatever.

I don't know if I even have a preference of being in primetime or not. I just hope we win, somehow.

Barret
11-30-2010, 01:53 PM
I had a question concerning Fan Base and national exposure.

Would the Indianapolis Colts have a national fan base or national coverage if they did not have Peyton Manning?

Why I ask this is I have Difficulty understanding the Colts. When were they good and did they ever have a national following before Manning and Winning? Indianapolis is a smaller market much like Kansas City is correct? If the Chiefs started getting to the AFC finals multiple years in a row and finally a super bowl could the Chiefs be in the same position that Indianapolis is as far as media attention? Or do the Chiefs need a High Profile QB out of a major college to assist with that exposure??

Lzen
11-30-2010, 01:53 PM
I find it more interesting they moved the Patriots at Bears game to go head-to-head on CBS with several good late afternoon matchups...

Thursday , Dec. 09 Time (ET)
Colts at Titans 8:20 PM NFL

Sunday , Dec. 12
Falcons at Panthers 1:00 PM FOX
Browns at Bills 1:00 PM CBS
Packers at Lions 1:00 PM FOX
Raiders at Jaguars 1:00 PM CBS
Bengals at Steelers 1:00 PM CBS
Patriots at Bears 1:00 PM CBS
Giants at Vikings 1:00 PM FOX
Buccaneers at Redskins 1:00 PM FOX
Rams at Saints 4:05 PM FOX
Seahawks at 49ers 4:05 PM FOX
Broncos at Cardinals 4:15 PM CBS
Dolphins at Jets 4:15 PM CBS
Chiefs at Chargers 4:15 PM CBS
Eagles at Cowboys 8:20 PM NBC

Monday , Dec. 13
Ravens at Texans 8:30 PM ESP

Why did you bold Broncos at Cardinals? :spock:

Lzen
11-30-2010, 01:57 PM
Example: How great our return game was going to be.

Yeah, not so much.

It is my belief that has much more to do with coaching (or lack thereof) than the players.

Berry's starting to get it, Arenas has played well, and Dexter and Moeaki have missed time, which was a major concern for many people.

Dex has missed a lot of time sure, but Moeaki hasn't missed that much.

Not trying to pile on. Just throwing in my .02.

Lzen
11-30-2010, 01:58 PM
Arenas still hasn't lived up to a 2nd round pick....

Don't have a problem with everything else in your post, but with this I completely disagree.

vailpass
11-30-2010, 02:10 PM
That is some bullshit.

This is one of the most important games in the NFL this year and it will be seen by probably 10% or less of the country.

What makes that one of the most important games of the year? The AFCW is weak sister this year and that game may not even be sold out.

Buck
11-30-2010, 02:17 PM
What makes that one of the most important games of the year? The AFCW is weak sister this year and that game may not even be sold out.

Well for one its a game that will determine who will win a division (most likely). Its just as important as Steelers vs Ravens this week or Pats vs Jets this week.

vailpass
11-30-2010, 02:22 PM
Well for one its a game that will determine who will win a division (most likely). Its just as important as Steelers vs Ravens this week or Pats vs Jets this week.

Can you understand how someone that is not a Chargers fan might not see the AFCW championship as being important or significant? AFCW is horrible this year, as bad as I can remember us being. Except for SD, they look like they are coming on strong again.

mikey23545
11-30-2010, 02:27 PM
Uh...yeah, I don't believe most of the more critical voices have gone anywhere.

Nor have the homers been 'vindicated'. Arenas still hasn't lived up to a 2nd round pick, nor has McCluster. Jackson is still awful and Cassel still has more poor games to his credit this season than excellent ones. At the same time, I've given credit for the Moeaki pick and acknowledged that Cassel has improved more than I thought he would.

Nothing like painting (poorly) with a broad brush, eh?

Oh, bullshit...

As much as he is on the field Arenas is practically a starter in his rookie season...I guess not being named All-Pro will make him a bust as a second rounder, huh? And you certainly can't label an injury curtailed season (McCluster) as a poor pick unless you are a completely biased idiot. The contributions of Moeaki and the obviously-too-slow Kendrick Lewis have been significant. Berry will eventually be a star.

Jackson is from a previous year's draft...Hell, why not bring up Blackledge and Trezelle Jenkins while you're at it?

And lastly, all the predictions of a 3 or 4 win season because of the dearth of talent (as judged by the almighty Drafturbators) are laying in ruins at the feet of a quickly improving Cassell...

Quit making an idiot of yourself by defending the arrogant, pompous and erroneous opinions of a classless bunch of egotists...

Buck
11-30-2010, 02:29 PM
Can you understand how someone that is not a Chargers fan might not see the AFCW championship as being important or significant? AFCW is horrible this year, as bad as I can remember us being. Except for SD, they look like they are coming on strong again.

Sure, but I care about the Steelers/Ravens and Pats/Jets game.

I don't see why they shouldn't care about the Chargers/Chiefs game.

mcan
11-30-2010, 02:32 PM
Uh...yeah, I don't believe most of the more critical voices have gone anywhere.

Nor have the homers been 'vindicated'. Arenas still hasn't lived up to a 2nd round pick, nor has McCluster. Jackson is still awful and Cassel still has more poor games to his credit this season than excellent ones. At the same time, I've given credit for the Moeaki pick and acknowledged that Cassel has improved more than I thought he would.

Nothing like painting (poorly) with a broad brush, eh?

The homers will come out every year, and when we finally DO get a good team (as I believe we've managed to do this year) they'll be right. Doesn't make them psychic, or special. Just means that they love their team.

That said, I can't believe you could still be SO down on this team. Cassel is playing lights out right now, which can't be argued. Is he the most accurate or strong-armed guy in the league? Not at all. But keep in mind that NOBODY makes perfect throws all the time. I will admit, that sometimes Cassel misses a throw that MOST quarterbacks will make. He does this more often that he should. But he's making WAY better decisions than most other quarterbacks and not taking huge chances. He's avoiding the rush and maximizing gains whenever he can. You don't ACCIDENTALLY have this TD/INT ratio.

Arenas would have been a huge success already if he would have been picked where Berry was, and has arguably been more successful than our first rounder. He hasn't blown a coverage all year, has played LIGHTS OUT on special teams, makes every tackle, and has even stepped in on offense. That's just a SICK amount of playing time and production from a rookie. And last week he had to REALLY step it up with Flowers out.

McCluster has been hurt, but is clearly a great pick and a game changer when he gets the ball.

Jackson is definitely a disappointment having been drafted so high, but he's a better than average defensive lineman and still has a lot of upside. Regardless, he's making a ton of money and we can't give up on him. Better to hope and coach him well...

Speaking of coaches. That's what this whole thing is really about. We have MUCH better coaches this year, and consequently we're utilizing the talent that we have much better. We aren't a team full of probowlers (yet), but we can definitely win this division and make a strong playoff push with these guys, and they're only getting better.

In other words: "lighten up Francis"

Zaiko
11-30-2010, 02:34 PM
Wtf.. why not just rename it to nfc east night football

vailpass
11-30-2010, 02:38 PM
Sure, but I care about the Steelers/Ravens and Pats/Jets game.

I don't see why they shouldn't care about the Chargers/Chiefs game.

Fair enough.

Maybe if you counted the total number of SB rings the Steelers/Ravens and Pats/Jets have won and compared them to the total number of SB rings the Chargers/Chiefs have won it would make more sense to you.
Not only do those four teams exhibit SB dominance they are also considered by most to be much more of a threat to win the SB than either SD or KC.

Not saying it's fair, just saying that is the reality of it.

Buck
11-30-2010, 02:40 PM
Fair enough.

Maybe if you counted the total number of SB rings the Steelers/Ravens and Pats/Jets have won and compared them to the total number of SB rings the Chargers/Chiefs have won it would make more sense to you.
Not only do those four teams exhibit SB dominance they are also considered by most to be much more of a threat to win the SB than either SD or KC.

Not saying it's fair, just saying that is the reality of it.

Yup pretty much this.

vailpass
11-30-2010, 02:41 PM
Yup pretty much this.

Your team is hitting on all cylinders right now and a favorite to win the divsion, what are you worried about?

Buck
11-30-2010, 02:42 PM
Your team is hitting on all cylinders right now and a favorite to win the divsion, what are you worried about?

Not worried about anything.

In fact I am happy that they didn't flex it. I'd rather go to a day game than a night game.

I'm just saying that this game should be shown to a national audience but its not because nobody cares, and thats messed up.

vailpass
11-30-2010, 02:45 PM
Not worried about anything.

In fact I am happy that they didn't flex it. I'd rather go to a day game than a night game.

I'm just saying that this game should be shown to a national audience but its not because nobody cares, and thats messed up.

I hear ya. Yours isn't bad but her 3 friends are ugly. NFCE and AFCE are brining hot chicks to the party.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-30-2010, 02:47 PM
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Pasta Giant Meatball
11-30-2010, 03:17 PM
Fair enough.

Maybe if you counted the total number of SB rings the Steelers/Ravens and Pats/Jets have won and compared them to the total number of SB rings the Chargers/Chiefs have won it would make more sense to you.
Not only do those four teams exhibit SB dominance they are also considered by most to be much more of a threat to win the SB than either SD or KC.

Not saying it's fair, just saying that is the reality of it.

Yeah that title back in '68 for the Jets really signifies SB dominance ROFL

CaliforniaChief
11-30-2010, 03:21 PM
I can't say I'm not disappointed because I think it would have been cool. But I'm just thankful that they have something called flex scheduling that does give us at least a shot at something significant instead of the pre-arranged games (like last night's).

notorious
11-30-2010, 03:21 PM
Indianapolis is a smaller market much like Kansas City is correct? If the Chiefs started getting to the AFC finals multiple years in a row and finally a super bowl could the Chiefs be in the same position that Indianapolis is as far as media attention?

Yes.


We have NOT earned national exposure yet.

vailpass
11-30-2010, 03:53 PM
Yeah that title back in '68 for the Jets really signifies SB dominance ROFL

That single ring is equal to the total held by KC/SD and the Jets are a team with MUCH higher national appeal in a MUCH better division. Now add in the other 3/4 of the group in question: Steelers-Pats-Ravens. Are you beginning to understand? Not sure I can type any slower.

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-30-2010, 06:12 PM
That single ring is equal to the total held by KC/SD and the Jets are a team with MUCH higher national appeal in a MUCH better division. Now add in the other 3/4 of the group in question: Steelers-Pats-Ravens. Are you beginning to understand? Not sure I can type any slower.

My point was, they shouldn't be in the same class as the other 3 teams as far as recent success goes. They have a longer SB drought than KC does. If they back up thier shit talking and win something, I'll give them respect.

DJJasonp
12-05-2010, 10:07 PM
any chance the NFL changes their mind on this??

I mean....it's not like we havent had enough NFC East on primetime, right?

Or...it's not like the chiefs have a QB that served time in Leavenworth for killing dogs.........oops!

The NFL is such the hypocrite bastards.....they preach staying out of trouble....hand out fines left and right (and suspensions)......but it doesnt seem to keep rapistburger or Dog killer out of the prime time slots!

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 10:11 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$:rolleyes:

dirk digler
12-05-2010, 10:13 PM
any chance the NFL changes their mind on this??

I mean....it's not like we havent had enough NFC East on primetime, right?

Or...it's not like the chiefs have a QB that served time in Leavenworth for killing dogs.........oops!

The NFL is such the hypocrite bastards.....they preach staying out of trouble....hand out fines left and right (and suspensions)......but it doesnt seem to keep rapistburger or Dog killer out of the prime time slots!

Nope. Heck they said tonight that the NE\Bears game would be the national 4PM game.

No respect

DJJasonp
12-05-2010, 10:14 PM
Nope. Heck they said tonight that the NE\Bears game would be the national 4PM game.

No respect

I can respect that (both are division leaders with more than 7 wins).

dirk digler
12-05-2010, 10:19 PM
I can respect that (both are division leaders with more than 7 wins).

They said this before the game was over which means it was already decided before the outcome. If the Chargers would have won our game would have been HUGE.

BIG_DADDY
12-05-2010, 10:42 PM
Any East coast game is going to get the nod.

tk13
12-05-2010, 10:45 PM
They said this before the game was over which means it was already decided before the outcome. If the Chargers would have won our game would have been HUGE.

I believe they'd already decided all that on Monday or Tuesday, actually. They moved the NE/Chicago game from 1 to 4pm earlier this week.

dirk digler
12-05-2010, 10:49 PM
I believe they'd already decided all that on Monday or Tuesday, actually. They moved the NE/Chicago game from 1 to 4pm earlier this week.

that is fucking bs