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The Poz
12-02-2010, 03:36 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Kansas-City-Chiefs-file-tampering-charges-against-Detroit-Lions-120210

Already guaranteed another losing season, the Detroit Lions’ woes might be getting worse.

FOXSports.com has learned that the Kansas City Chiefs have filed tampering charges with the NFL against the Lions. The exact nature of the complaint wasn’t immediately known.

The league defines tampering as any interference with the employer-employee relationship of another franchise or any attempt by a club to impermissibly induce a person to seek employment with that team or the NFL itself.

If found guilty, the Lions could be fined and/or stripped of at least one draft pick.

One of the parties believed mentioned in Kansas City’s grievance is Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham, who held the same position with the Chiefs from 2004 to 2008.

Cunningham made at least one public comment that could be constituted as tampering prior to this year’s free-agent signing period.

“(Kansas City) keeps wanting to dump their players. I would like to be there to catch a lot of them because I know a couple of those guys,” Cunningham told the Detroit Free Press in February.

The Lions didn’t sign any of Kansas City’s free agents. The only player currently on Detroit’s roster who played under Cunningham is backup defensive lineman Turk McBride. He was claimed off waivers in September 2009.

The NFL, the Chiefs and the Lions all declined comment.

FOXSports.com wrote last year about the issue of tampering and outlined specific examples that have occurred in the NFL.

Pants
12-02-2010, 03:37 PM
Is this about Gunt? Can't be, right?

Cave Johnson
12-02-2010, 03:37 PM
That'd be fantastic if the Lions lose a pick over Gunther's misconduct.

King_Chief_Fan
12-02-2010, 03:37 PM
that is ridiculous

KCrockaholic
12-02-2010, 03:38 PM
lol Hard feelings towards Gunther?

DA_T_84
12-02-2010, 03:39 PM
Gunt prolly holla'd at Tamba

Brock
12-02-2010, 03:40 PM
I remember reading that Pioli really doesn't like Detroit's coach.

Detoxing
12-02-2010, 03:41 PM
Gunt prolly holla'd at Tamba

Or DJ

Could be either of those guys. I wonder if that'd have anything to do with their contract situations.

KCrockaholic
12-02-2010, 03:41 PM
I remember reading that Pioli really doesn't like Detroit's coach.

Doesn't like Shwartz? (sp)

Detoxing
12-02-2010, 03:42 PM
I remember reading that Pioli really doesn't like Detroit's coach.

Details please.

Brock
12-02-2010, 03:44 PM
Details please.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/archive/index.php/t-200284.html

No details, really.

Kerberos
12-02-2010, 03:44 PM
I remember reading that Pioli really doesn't like Detroit's coach.

Sounds like Detroit doesn't much like Detroits Coach.

Keep reading that he may be on the hotseat.

This would go a long way to push him over the edge.

CoMoChief
12-02-2010, 03:44 PM
How is that tampering?

He's in no way asking/talking about another player coming to DET from KC via transaction. He's just saying he'd think about picking up our leftover garbage.

Detoxing
12-02-2010, 03:45 PM
How is that tampering?

He's in no way asking/talking about another player coming to DET from KC via transaction. He's just saying he'd think about picking up our leftover garbage.

They never said THAT was tampering. The article merely mentions that comment.

KCtotheSB
12-02-2010, 03:45 PM
Hopefully this allows us to bring Gunther back!

The Poz
12-02-2010, 03:46 PM
There must have been something else going on. Gun prolly had a conversation with someone still on the roster.

KCrockaholic
12-02-2010, 03:47 PM
Hopefully this allows us to bring Gunther back!

Don't even joke. :shake:

KCrockaholic
12-02-2010, 03:48 PM
There must have been something else going on. Gun prolly had a conversation with someone still on the roster.

One of his boys...Maybe Flowers-Carr-DJ-Dorsey?

I know for a fact that him and Flowers have a great relationship.

Detoxing
12-02-2010, 03:49 PM
One of his boys...Maybe Flowers-Carr-DJ-Dorsey?

I'm thinking DJ or Hali. MAYBE Dorsey but i doubt it.

Imagine Dorsey and Suh...hotdamn.

The Poz
12-02-2010, 03:52 PM
It would have to have been someone that was at some point on the hot seat - DJ or Dorsey? There would have been no point in chatting with Flowers, he wasn't going anywhere.

CoMoChief
12-02-2010, 03:52 PM
Hopefully this allows us to bring Gunther back!

thank god

Norman Einstein
12-02-2010, 03:53 PM
Hopefully this allows us to bring Gunther back!

NO WAY

Chief3188
12-02-2010, 03:59 PM
Hopefully this allows us to bring Gunther back!

Yes.... We definately need another beer vendor to walk the stadium selling delicious cold beverages.

booger
12-02-2010, 04:06 PM
they (det media) have tried to stir up that dorsey was a poor fit for the 34 and was available for less than a 1st rder. That was early in the offseason, before FA and the draft. Also DJ being avail before this year's trade deadline and early in the season.

Goonther's problem of flapping his gums and trying to take credit or more credit than others is catching up with him. With his personality and lack of doing just his own job and trying to be to involved, was a disaster for a team like DET with a rookie HC and GM. The idea on paper looks good. Former HC that has experience with current HC. But the guy is an extreme ego maniac.

There was a lot of rumors about DET wanting Page as well. I imagine with Page's desperation and the dumb choice of having his brother as his agent that they could have between the two of them (gunther and someone in Page's camp or he himself) done something they shouldn't have. Just a guess though.

Detoxing
12-02-2010, 04:25 PM
they (det media) have tried to stir up that dorsey was a poor fit for the 34 and was available for less than a 1st rder. That was early in the offseason, before FA and the draft. Also DJ being avail before this year's trade deadline and early in the season.

Goonther's problem of flapping his gums and trying to take credit or more credit than others is catching up with him. With his personality and lack of doing just his own job and trying to be to involved, was a disaster for a team like DET with a rookie HC and GM. The idea on paper looks good. Former HC that has experience with current HC. But the guy is an extreme ego maniac.

There was a lot of rumors about DET wanting Page as well. I imagine with Page's desperation and the dumb choice of having his brother as his agent that they could have between the two of them (gunther and someone in Page's camp or he himself) done something they shouldn't have. Just a guess though.


Ah, that's right. Forgot all about Page. It probably was over Page.

Norman Einstein
12-02-2010, 04:30 PM
Yes.... We definately need another beer vendor to walk the stadium selling delicious cold beverages.

He's under qualified.

DMAC
12-02-2010, 04:31 PM
Ah, that's right. Forgot all about Page. It probably was over Page.

Whom we could use at the momento....

Dicky McElephant
12-02-2010, 04:33 PM
Maybe Page?

Direckshun
12-02-2010, 04:44 PM
I'm thinking Page.

Anybody else?

DMAC
12-02-2010, 04:49 PM
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1013/feud3d.jpg

RustShack
12-02-2010, 04:50 PM
I'm guessing Dorsey, Hali, or Flowers.

HoneyBadger
12-02-2010, 04:55 PM
Its not like any type of punishment will actually punish the Lions. They suck enough already.

nychief
12-02-2010, 04:57 PM
...probably the reason Hali hasn't been extended.

kysirsoze
12-02-2010, 04:57 PM
Its not like any type of punishment will actually punish the Lions. They suck enough already.

Yep. If they tampered I guess they need to be punished, but those poor bastards don't need any help to suck.

Hog Farmer
12-02-2010, 05:00 PM
Or DJ

Could be either of those guys. I wonder if that'd have anything to do with their contract situations.

That's the first thing that came to my mind. DJ gets his contract because he's a wanted man

Iowanian
12-02-2010, 05:25 PM
My guess is Gunther and Detroit were sending Page flowers during his holdout.

LaChapelle
12-02-2010, 05:41 PM
Shaun Smith was sleeveless with 4 days growth of beard
Gun was beyond restraint

KurtCobain
12-02-2010, 06:24 PM
I hope we get a pick.

Mr. Laz
12-02-2010, 07:21 PM
lol Hard feelings towards Gunther?doubt it ... Pioli just sending a message to the league not to fuck with him.

GloryDayz
12-02-2010, 07:35 PM
Well, one things for sure, the car market's going to tank!

Garcia Bronco
12-02-2010, 07:41 PM
Sounds like bullshit from the article.

HemiEd
12-02-2010, 07:45 PM
doubt it ... Pioli just sending a message to the league not to **** with him.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2iatmde.jpg

Chiefs=Good
12-02-2010, 08:00 PM
Can we get a pick out of it?? otherwise who cares...

Chiefaholic
12-02-2010, 08:51 PM
Can we get a pick out of it?? otherwise who cares...

That's the whole point of filing charges to begin with. Just like St. Louis did us against Vermeil.

BigRock
12-03-2010, 06:58 AM
Ah, that's right. Forgot all about Page. It probably was over Page.

A Detroit paper has confirmed it is indeed about Page.

milkman
12-03-2010, 08:14 AM
If I'm Roger Goodell, I just can't take this seriously.

It's Cunther Gunningham, and everyone knows he's a fucking joke.

milkman
12-03-2010, 08:17 AM
Shaun Smith was sleeveless with 4 days growth of beard
Gun was beyond restraint

Hey.

Matt Cassel is sporting facial hair the last couple of weeks, and he's suddenly looking like an NFL QB.

Coincidence?

Me and ****her Gunningham think not.

ReynardMuldrake
12-03-2010, 08:19 AM
Hey.

Matt Cassel is sporting facial hair the last couple of weeks, and he's suddenly looking like an NFL QB.

Coincidence?

Me and ****her Gunningham think not.

Haley too. Jared Allen started sucking right after he cut his hair. Coincidence?