PDA

View Full Version : Chiefs Chiefs need to still learn the lesson of......


Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 04:14 PM
not playing down to their competition. They are still learning how to win and part of that process is taking care of business "early" against a lesser opponent especially at home.

Crennel was smart "not stacking the box" today allowing Moreno to get his yds because he knows that Moreno doesn't have JC type speed to take it to the house. Knowing this and also having McGraw back in the line up to provide for wiser better safety play against the pass which is Denver's "bread and butter" allowed Carr to have his "shut down" day. Crennel played it smart and didn't get sucked in to stuffing the run at all cost knowing his D-line and pass rush is mediocre at best:thumb:

It is clear that McKid's overhaul of this Broncos team has failed miserably reducing the talent level so much so that when the opponent has a Murphy's law type of game that provided soooooooo many opportunities both offensively and defensively to capitalize on but CAN"T means a change needs to occur.

We tried giving this game away but the Broncos rejected it even more than we wanted to give it so I will take this ugly win.

Douche Baggins
12-05-2010, 04:15 PM
The Chiefs didn't play down to the level of their competition. They fucking dominated on both sides of the ball, but didn't finish because of dumb penalties.

Huge difference.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 04:21 PM
The Chiefs didn't play down to the level of their competition. They ****ing dominated on both sides of the ball, but didn't finish because of dumb penalties.

Huge difference.

Totally disagree. Mental discipline is a big part of not playing down to your competition, not allowing the "dumb penalties" to occur so that you can take care of business "early":rolleyes:

Hoover
12-05-2010, 04:22 PM
Plus there are always teams that you struggle with. The Broncos seem to be that team for us, while SD struggles with Oakland.

Bane
12-05-2010, 04:22 PM
Scoreboard.

kysirsoze
12-05-2010, 04:23 PM
What?

We beat the ass of our last two "lesser opponents."

Chiefs Pantalones
12-05-2010, 04:27 PM
The Chiefs didn't play down to the level of their competition. They ****ing dominated on both sides of the ball, but didn't finish because of dumb penalties.

Huge difference.

Pretty much. We had this game against the Cheaters but failed to finish them.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 04:28 PM
Plus there are always teams that you struggle with. The Broncos seem to be that team for us, while SD struggles with Oakland.

Very true.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 04:35 PM
What?

We beat the ass of our last two "lesser opponents."

And we let up off the offensive gas pedal today against another lesser opponent because of many mental and physical miscues. More mental mistakes than physical for sure.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 04:36 PM
but failed to finish them.

You make my point:thumb:

Douche Baggins
12-05-2010, 04:37 PM
And we let up off the offensive gas pedal today

We had 400 yards of offense.

The only thing we screwed up with was on pre-snap penalties.

That has nothing to do with the competition.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 04:38 PM
Scoreboard.

You feel comfortable with that scoreboard going into SD next week "regardless" if SD wins today or not? I'd much rather see that scoreboard say 32-6.:rolleyes:

kysirsoze
12-05-2010, 04:39 PM
I guess if we don't blow everyone out we're guilty of playing down to our competition.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-05-2010, 04:41 PM
The Chiefs didn't play down to the level of their competition. They fucking dominated on both sides of the ball, but didn't finish because of dumb penalties.

Huge difference.

That offense didn't dominate my dead grandmother, pal. But you're right about not finishing.

Douche Baggins
12-05-2010, 04:43 PM
That offense didn't dominate my dead grandmother, pal..

We had 191 yards passing and 185 yards rushing, and we converted 6 of 14 third downs.

The only thing that stopped the Chiefs was the Chiefs, not the Broncos.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 04:47 PM
We had 400 yards of offense.

The only thing we screwed up with was on pre-snap penalties.

That has nothing to do with the competition.

OMG! Competition is not just only winning the physical part of the game but it is the mental side of being totally "RAZOR FOCUSED" so you don't have "pre-snap" penalties, so you can score more pts, so you don't allow your lesser opponent to staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay in the game.

You can run up all the stats you want but when the score is only 10-6 then there usually is a big problem and that problem today was NOT the physical side of competition but the lack of mental focus of competition which lacked today for the Chiefs, PERIOD!!

JD10367
12-05-2010, 04:50 PM
OMG! Competition is not just only winning the physical part of the game but it is the mental side of being totally "RAZOR FOCUSED" so you don't have "pre-snap" penalties, so you can score more pts, so you don't allow your lesser opponent to staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay in the game.

You can run up all the stats you want but when the score is only 10-6 then there usually is a big problem and that problem today was NOT the physical side of competition but the lack of mental focus of competition which lacked today for the Chiefs, PERIOD!!

Hi.

Shut the fuck up and drink antifreeze. kthxbye

Your fucking team won today. They won against a team that they'd already lost to. They won after turning the ball over twice near the end zone. They won to go to 8-4, which 99.9% of Chiefs fans would've frantically beat off to if they were told that in August. They might have a two-game lead in their division with four to go. And you're fucking complaining that they didn't look like the '85 Bears while winning. SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 04:50 PM
We had 191 yards passing and 185 yards rushing, and we converted 6 of 14 third downs.

The only thing that stopped the Chiefs was the Chiefs, not the Broncos.

You make my point:thumb: The Chiefs stopped themselves today lacking mental discipline.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 04:56 PM
Hi.

Shut the **** up and drink antifreeze. kthxbye

Your ****ing team won today. They won against a team that they'd already lost to. They won after turning the ball over twice near the end zone. They won to go to 8-4, which 99.9% of Chiefs fans would've frantically beat off to if they were told that in August. They might have a two-game lead in their division with four to go. And you're ****ing complaining that they didn't look like the '85 Bears while winning. SHUT. THE. ****. UP.

It's obvious you need to get back on your medications and you are definitely not the right profile that fits the "Right 53" type of fan for this team to improve.

So you go and be satisfied with mediocrity while the rest of us strive to be the best we can be, OK:shrug: Hell we weren't even mediocre today(except for Carr and Colquitt) so that really should have pleased you, uh:rolleyes:

Douche Baggins
12-05-2010, 04:56 PM
You make my point:thumb: The Chiefs stopped themselves today lacking mental discipline.

Yes, but that doesn't mean they played down to the level of their competition.

The running game and passing game worked about as they normally do. The defense gave up rushing yards but was otherwise stout.

The lesson to be learned today was get your ass on the line of scrimmage and stay there until the snap.

Groves
12-05-2010, 07:11 PM
What this thread needs is the input of someone with experience in psychology specifically in the realm of athletics.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 07:11 PM
Yes, but that doesn't mean they played down to the level of their competition.

The running game and passing game worked about as they normally do. The defense gave up rushing yards but was otherwise stout.

The lesson to be learned today was get your ass on the line of scrimmage and stay there until the snap.

Sure it does! Being competitive in physical spirit doesn't always translate to being just as mentally competitive because the score was only 10-6!!!!!

Why was that Gif? Because the Chiefs weren't mentally sharp today. If they(Chiefs O) were mentally competitive(avoiding mental mistakes-ala not lining up correctly as you say correctly) there game stats that you reeled off would match the so-called appropriate score they "should have" attained today.

That means they played down to just above the level of their competition to barely win although the stats really don't say that. However, Knowmo did have a career day on us:shake:

Thank goodness he does not have "breakaway speed" because the score of this game had Knowmo had this ability with the way the Chiefs O played today the score very well could have been 20-10 Broncos. Because there were 2 runs of his that should have been TDs had he the ability of JC:shake:.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 07:13 PM
What this thread needs is the input of someone with experience in psychology specifically in the realm of athletics.


:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

Bane
12-05-2010, 07:14 PM
All they need to learn is.....

<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hikLjcwFdD8?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hikLjcwFdD8?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>

jspchief
12-05-2010, 07:37 PM
Played down to the competition? Nope.

Withered in the face of adversity? Yes. After that choke job on the goal line and McCluster's run being called back, the offense started gripping hard. The play calling became uninspired, the O-line started laying down, and Cassel started Casseling his pants.

This team doesn't have the grit yet IMO. They should have never lost site of the fact that they were whipping Denver's ass. Instead you could see the pressure crushing them simply because a bad ending to an awesome drive.

Marcellus
12-05-2010, 07:41 PM
The Chiefs didn't play down to the level of their competition. They ****ing dominated on both sides of the ball, but didn't finish because of dumb penalties.

Huge difference.

Many of them didn't actually exist.

Bowes OPI, and Coppers hold were BS calls at best.

BTW the OPI canceled out Bowes streak of games with a catch.

milkman
12-05-2010, 07:44 PM
Shrink, how many of your patients have avoided suicide to complain about your stupidity?

Ultra Peanut
12-05-2010, 07:51 PM
DOMO SPORTSSHRINK

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ckXkq99AZsc?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ckXkq99AZsc?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

ROYC75
12-05-2010, 08:00 PM
Played down to the competition? Nope.

Withered in the face of adversity? Yes. After that choke job on the goal line and McCluster's run being called back, the offense started gripping hard. The play calling became uninspired, the O-line started laying down, and Cassel started Casseling his pants.

This team doesn't have the grit yet IMO. They should have never lost site of the fact that they were whipping Denver's ass. Instead you could see the pressure crushing them simply because a bad ending to an awesome drive.

Hey, it's good to see you back on here.:thumb:

Lbedrock1
12-05-2010, 08:24 PM
not playing down to their competition. They are still learning how to win and part of that process is taking care of business "early" against a lesser opponent especially at home.

Crennel was smart "not stacking the box" today allowing Moreno to get his yds because he knows that Moreno doesn't have JC type speed to take it to the house. Knowing this and also having McGraw back in the line up to provide for wiser better safety play against the pass which is Denver's "bread and butter" allowed Carr to have his "shut down" day. Crennel played it smart and didn't get sucked in to stuffing the run at all cost knowing his D-line and pass rush is mediocre at best:thumb:

It is clear that McKid's overhaul of this Broncos team has failed miserably reducing the talent level so much so that when the opponent has a Murphy's law type of game that provided soooooooo many opportunities both offensively and defensively to capitalize on but CAN"T means a change needs to occur.

We tried giving this game away but the Broncos rejected it even more than we wanted to give it so I will take this ugly win.

The Broncos, Raiders and Bolts could all be rebuilding and they would all play the Chiefs tough. When we play in our division we have to understand that the games are gonna be close no matter how much better we are then them or vice verses. When we play in the division throw out the records because they mean nothing. I will take this win becasue they are hard to come by when we play in our division. Saying that I still think we play better and look better against the Bolts, It doesnt guarantee a win but we will play better.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 08:41 PM
Withered in the face of adversity? Yes. After that choke job on the goal line and McCluster's run being called back, the offense started gripping hard. The play calling became uninspired, the O-line started laying down, and Cassel started Casseling his pants.

This team doesn't have the grit yet IMO. They should have never lost site of the fact that they were whipping Denver's ass. Instead you could see the pressure crushing them simply because a bad ending to an awesome drive.

Everything you mentioned here say's they mentally played down to the competition. They weren't on their "A" game mentally on the offensive side of the ball is all I'm saying. You use the words "choke", "gripping hard", "laying down","Casseling" "no grit" "lost sight" tells me they mentally were much weaker today and played mentally weaker and closer to that of their competition but just enough to win.

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 08:44 PM
Shrink, how many of your patients have avoided suicide to complain about your stupidity?

Just about as many of your customers that have avoided food poisoning from your "sour milk" that you deliver on a regular basis:thumb:

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 08:46 PM
DOMO SPORTSSHRINK

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ckXkq99AZsc?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ckXkq99AZsc?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

Penis your back!!!!!:thumb:

Chiefshrink
12-05-2010, 08:51 PM
The Broncos, Raiders and Bolts could all be rebuilding and they would all play the Chiefs tough. When we play in our division we have to understand that the games are gonna be close no matter how much better we are then them or vice verses. When we play in the division throw out the records because they mean nothing. I will take this win becasue they are hard to come by when we play in our division. Saying that I still think we play better and look better against the Bolts, It doesnt guarantee a win but we will play better.

I agree that divisional play is usually different but we got our asses handed to us in their house and we were trying serve them tea and crumpets today after finally finding our "mojo" on the road these last 2 weeks. We should have at least won by 2TDs if we are just 1/2 on our offensive game mentally.

JD10367
12-12-2010, 09:44 AM
It's obvious you need to get back on your medications and you are definitely not the right profile that fits the "Right 53" type of fan for this team to improve.

So you go and be satisfied with mediocrity while the rest of us strive to be the best we can be, OK:shrug: Hell we weren't even mediocre today(except for Carr and Colquitt) so that really should have pleased you, uh:rolleyes:

Sorry I'm late in responding, I just found this again when I found your negrep. And, no, my tampon doesn't need changing, but maybe you need to shut the fuck up and enjoy a win when you get it. This is the NFL. Everyone gets paid to play, everyone's pretty good, no game is easy. The Chiefs fought through the fact that they were playing bad and did what they had to do, which is win the game. Frankly, you sound like a dumb-shit Yankees fan.

The Bad Guy
12-12-2010, 09:47 AM
Sportshrink has to be in the discussion for stupid fucker of the year on this board.

PGM
12-12-2010, 10:28 AM
Yeah, they sure did that against San Fran, Jax, Zona, and Seattle :rolleyes:

Chiefshrink
12-12-2010, 10:34 AM
[QUOTE=JD10367;7249212]The Chiefs fought through the fact that they were playing bad and did what they had to do, which is win the game. /QUOTE]

And why were they playing bad "at home" against an "inferior team" when they should have been "razor sharp" considering all the circumstances prior????

Maybe because they were "not 100% mentally on their game" allowing an inferior team to stay in the game possibly??:rolleyes::shrug:

They need to take care of business at home much better and especially against an inferior team PERIOD.

Unlike you, I don't accept poor mental play considering we had only a 1 game lead at that time, against an inferior team at HOME!!

Chiefshrink
12-12-2010, 10:44 AM
Sportshrink has to be in the discussion for stupid ****er of the year on this board.

It is apparent "mediocrity" is who you are and you are fine with it:shrug:

Champions don't prepare or play at a mediocre level. I want our Chiefs to be SB Champions.

Tell me I'm a stupidf**ker "IF" the Chiefs play down to these last 4 teams and allow SD or Oak for that matter back into the race??

Moron:rolleyes:

milkman
12-12-2010, 10:48 AM
It is apparent "mediocrity" is who you are and you are fine with it:shrug:

Champions don't prepare or play at a mediocre level. I want our Chiefs to be SB Champions.

Tell me I'm a stupidf**ker "IF" the Chiefs play down to these last 4 teams and allow SD or Oak for that matter back into the race??

Moron:rolleyes:

How old were you when you first learned how to tie your own shoes?

14?
15?

The Bad Guy
12-12-2010, 11:01 AM
It is apparent "mediocrity" is who you are and you are fine with it:shrug:

Champions don't prepare or play at a mediocre level. I want our Chiefs to be SB Champions.

Tell me I'm a stupidf**ker "IF" the Chiefs play down to these last 4 teams and allow SD or Oak for that matter back into the race??

Moron:rolleyes:

Did they play down to the Seahawks? Nope.

Stupid fucker.

The Bad Guy
12-12-2010, 11:03 AM
The hilarious aspect of penisshrink's analysis is that the Chiefs were 10-38 the last 3 years. 12 games in a severe rebuild he thinks they are going to blow out bad teams when they are just learning to put teams away.

Fucking tool.

Chiefshrink
12-12-2010, 11:08 AM
Did they play down to the Seahawks? Nope.

Stupid ****er.

Score of 10-6 at home against an inferior team. You accept that uh?

The Bad Guy
12-12-2010, 11:15 AM
Score of 10-6 at home against an inferior team. You accept that uh?

I accept wins.

I'm sorry you want to be a picky fucking bitch and cry about wins because they weren't convincing enough for you.

Grab a rope and hang yourself.

Chiefshrink
12-12-2010, 11:19 AM
How old were you when you first learned how to tie your own shoes?

14?
15?

I was still in the womb:D

It's apparent I'm just exposing everyone else's anxiety as the piling on takes place talking about what everybody fears here that are Chiefs 'might' do these last 4 games and I include myself.

The Denver game was disappointing and somewhat concerning considering all the circumstances going into that game which should have been a much different score IMO.

Yes a win is a win and Oakland gave us a nice unexpected present and I should be grateful which I am but that Denver game should've not been that difficult.

Chiefshrink
12-12-2010, 11:28 AM
I accept wins.

I'm sorry you want to be a picky ****ing bitch and cry about wins because they weren't convincing enough for you.

Grab a rope and hang yourself.

:hmmm::hmmm: I wonder if SB winning coaches and players who have 'consistently' won SBs in the past are 'consistently picky' as you say in order to be SB Champions??:shrug:

Ya THINK?????:rolleyes:

Take your mediocre attitude to the next level 'Bad Guy' and maybe you might become 'Good'.:D

The Bad Guy
12-12-2010, 11:31 AM
:hmmm::hmmm: I wonder if SB winning coaches and players who have 'consistently' won SBs in the past are 'consistently picky' as you say in order to be SB Champions??:shrug:

Ya THINK?????:rolleyes:

Take your mediocre attitude to the next level 'Bad Guy' and maybe you might become 'Good'.:D

Fuck yourself with a tetanus laced shovel.

What you fail to realize, penis shrink, is that this team wasn't going to go from cellar dwellar to world dominator in one year. I accept wins as they come. There's no extra points for style wins.

The SB champs lost to the Browns at home. Teams aren't going to blow everyone out and gritty wins are just as good as 40 point wins.

I don't accept any mediocrity. I just know that winning in the NFL isn't anyones right and I enjoy winning games after the debacle that was the last 3 seasons.

Jenson71
12-12-2010, 11:31 AM
I was expecting a George C. Scott speech.

Chiefshrink
12-12-2010, 11:40 AM
I was expecting a George C. Scott speech.

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xyUX6wV1lBQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xyUX6wV1lBQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

milkman
12-12-2010, 11:41 AM
I was still in the womb:D

It's apparent I'm just exposing everyone else's anxiety as the piling on takes place talking about what everybody fears here that are Chiefs 'might' do these last 4 games and I include myself.

The Denver game was disappointing and somewhat concerning considering all the circumstances going into that game which should have been a much different score IMO.

Yes a win is a win and Oakland gave us a nice unexpected present and I should be grateful which I am but that Denver game should've not been that difficult.

You are, beyond any shadow of a doubt, the dumbest piece of shit to have exited the womb.

There isn't any anxiety, simply the sure and certain knowledge that this is a team that is still learning how to win, and some dumbass who thinks he has some insight to the human psyche spewing stupid shit.

Chiefshrink
12-12-2010, 11:52 AM
You are, beyond any shadow of a doubt, the dumbest piece of shit to have exited the womb.

There isn't any anxiety, simply the sure and certain knowledge that this is a team that is still learning how to win, and some dumbass who thinks he has some insight to the human psyche spewing stupid shit.

Milk!

Quit drinking your sour milk that you deliver everyday it makes you quite cranky!! Oh and up your meds because your anxiety is starting to get out of control with all your "sour spewing".:D

Chiefshrink
12-12-2010, 12:03 PM
is that this team wasn't going to go from cellar dwellar to world dominator in one year.

Never said they would this yr but you always have to aim high "at all times" and the sooner you become "picky" as you say the sooner you become a "champion".

And as you say, 3yrs is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long for tolerating consistent bad play whether physical or mental and more often than not both, is all I am saying.:shrug:

I get your point but I want it "sooner" than "later". How about we don't accept mediocre mental play "sooner" than "later" especially against inferior teams at home????

jspchief
12-12-2010, 01:41 PM
I get your point but I want it "sooner" than "later". How about we don't accept mediocre mental play "sooner" than "later" especially against inferior teams at home????You don't have any choice but to accept exactly what the team gives you.

Brainiac
12-12-2010, 01:52 PM
Never said they would this yr but you always have to aim high "at all times" and the sooner you become "picky" as you say the sooner you become a "champion".

And as you say, 3yrs is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long for tolerating consistent bad play whether physical or mental and more often than not both, is all I am saying.:shrug:

I get your point but I want it "sooner" than "later". How about we don't accept mediocre mental play "sooner" than "later" especially against inferior teams at home????
Fire Pioli and Haley.

jspchief
12-12-2010, 01:55 PM
And besides... the Chiefs didn't "play down" in that game. They held the 4th rated passing offense to 117 yards. They held a team that averages 21 points per game to 6 points. They rushed for 185 yards. They led time of possession by 15 minutes.

The Chiefs dominated the Broncos for 3 quarters. Realistically, they played poorly for a stretch of about 6 plays, and otherwise controlled the game.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-12-2010, 02:53 PM
Score of 10-6 at home against an inferior team. You accept that uh?

It's a division game. Expect scores of that nature.

That said, dominating TOP and putting up only 10 IS pretty fucking sad.

But! That's why grow and get better.