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mikeyis4dcats.
12-06-2010, 08:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJK5xVei-i0

(sorry, never have learned how to embed YT)

Sofa King
12-06-2010, 08:24 AM
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ChiefsNow
12-06-2010, 08:28 AM
Looked like he was trying to take his head off , for sure.

Earthling
12-06-2010, 08:28 AM
Vicious hit.

Old Dog
12-06-2010, 08:29 AM
I'm willing to bet he gets a letter from the league office and that his next check is lower than normal.

BigMeatballDave
12-06-2010, 08:30 AM
Well, by rule, its illegal. It doesnt appear to be a dirty hit.

IMO, hits like these are a part of the game. Its was just a collision.

MOhillbilly
12-06-2010, 08:31 AM
LB/DBs are gonna have to relearn to run through tackles and not leave there feet.


bigtime ileagle per nfl rules.

MIAdragon
12-06-2010, 08:33 AM
That was a dirty shitbag hit.

mikeyis4dcats.
12-06-2010, 08:34 AM
Well, by rule, its illegal. It doesnt appear to be a dirty hit.

IMO, hits like these are a part of the game. Its was just a collision.

that was my take as well. I don't see how the Raven's player could know the WR would stumble to his knees. Some squawks over on another board are talking about how dirty it is and they thought he should be ejected.

Mile High Mania
12-06-2010, 08:35 AM
That's much more in line for a penalty than the freaking joke that DJ was hit with late yesterday...

Sofa King
12-06-2010, 08:40 AM
He looked like he tried to slow up in the last angle.... the slow motion makes it look a lot worse... he didn't have that much "in game" time as the slow motion implies...

that being said, he wanted to hit him until he realized he was hitting the head, then he had virtually no time to let up.

kepp
12-06-2010, 08:41 AM
I think it falls under the whole "defenseless receiver" lingo. He'll get fined.

RockChalk
12-06-2010, 08:43 AM
That's much more in line for a penalty than the freaking joke that DJ was hit with late yesterday...

Agreed. 100%. Terrible call against Williams. Luckily for you, it didn't end up hurting you since we decided to go full idiot-mode down on the goal line.

mikeyis4dcats.
12-06-2010, 08:54 AM
even at slow motion, which looks to be at LEAST half speed, probably more like 1/4 or more, the play from non-reception to hit is 2 seconds. So in game time, less than a second. You'd have to be superman to recognize the situation and avoid it.

notorious
12-06-2010, 09:32 AM
That's much more in line for a penalty than the freaking joke that DJ was hit with late yesterday...

You won't find any arguments around here.

Pestilence
12-06-2010, 09:38 AM
He looked like he tried to slow up in the last angle.... the slow motion makes it look a lot worse... he didn't have that much "in game" time as the slow motion implies...

that being said, he wanted to hit him until he realized he was hitting the head, then he had virtually no time to let up.

This.

It looked to me like he was trying to slow up at the end.....but it was to late.

ElGringo
12-06-2010, 09:46 AM
I think by NFL definition that hit was illegal, and that is how I answered the poll. However, I don't believe it should be, because he was aiming for a perfect shoulder to stomach hit but the receiver fell down, and it became shoulder to helmet.

BigMeatballDave
12-06-2010, 09:46 AM
That's much more in line for a penalty than the freaking joke that DJ was hit with late yesterday...I agree. Denver got rooked on that call, and Bowe got hosed on the OPI call. Push. :)

teedubya
12-06-2010, 10:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJK5xVei-i0

(sorry, never have learned how to embed YT)

Are you a dumbass? heh. There is a button that says EMBED... you click it and copy the code... then you paste it here. :evil:

Mile High Mania
12-06-2010, 10:18 AM
I agree. Denver got rooked on that call, and Bowe got hosed on the OPI call. Push. :)

Yeah, I think that was a bad call... still not sure they should have thrown a flag on McCluster's big run and I'm certain that they shouldn't have called Orton down late when he flung it away for a nice gain.

Overall - the refs equally sucked yesterday.

crossbow
12-06-2010, 10:24 AM
From the front agle it looks like the Raven player stiffened his legs to try to stop when he realized the guy was falling but he had too much momentum so he put his arms up to brace for the collision. I view this as a normal play.

-King-
12-06-2010, 11:01 AM
Technically its illegal. But it shouldn't be.

Mr. Laz
12-06-2010, 11:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJK5xVei-i0

(sorry, never have learned how to embed YT)
it's an illegal hit but i don't think it was intentional


The tackler didn't go high, the receiver dropped down into the hit. The tackler didn't lead/hit with the helmet, he hit with his shoulders/arms.


Tackler is screwed because he is going to get fined for something that was pretty much out of his control.

The NFL is full of shit

thecoffeeguy
12-06-2010, 12:43 PM
dirty, plain and simple.

Pitt Gorilla
12-06-2010, 12:48 PM
it's an illegal hit but i don't think it was intentional


The tackler didn't go high, the receiver dropped down into the hit. The tackler didn't lead/hit with the helmet, he hit with his shoulders/arms.


Tackler is screwed because he is going to get fined for something that was pretty much out of his control.

The NFL is full of shitDefinitely not dirty. Illegal by rule, but not dirty at all.

LiL stumppy
12-06-2010, 12:51 PM
Illegal however you look at it

Deberg_1990
12-06-2010, 12:52 PM
There were a few bad hits around the league yesterday...

Suh had one on Cutler where he hit him in the back of the head with his forearm. It looked nasty.

MOhillbilly
12-06-2010, 12:56 PM
There were a few bad hits around the league yesterday...

Suh had one on Cutler where he hit him in the back of the head with his forearm. It looked nasty.

man did you see the one on farve? That shit was great.

expect that type tackle to be ileagle next season.

Phobia
12-06-2010, 01:02 PM
I voted "legal" even though I know it's illegal according to the rules. The TE was going down and the LB was just trying to hit him hard. The game is fast and punishing. It's unfortunate and I hope Miller isn't hurt badly but it is part of the game and no amount of rules are going to eliminate this kind of hit.

gman1989
12-06-2010, 01:07 PM
that was a clean cheap shot:thumb:

mcan
12-06-2010, 02:16 PM
I voted "legal" even though I know it's illegal according to the rules. The TE was going down and the LB was just trying to hit him hard. The game is fast and punishing. It's unfortunate and I hope Miller isn't hurt badly but it is part of the game and no amount of rules are going to eliminate this kind of hit.

I think we should be clear here though. MOST of the rules in the NFL are for when players accidentally do something. Just because it's unintentional doesn't mean it shouldn't be called. People rarely jump offsides on purpose. But it still costs you 5 yards. It's up to the defender to make sure he body is under control enough so that he can stop or let up in time as to not hit a dude who is completely defenseless. Especially when the pass has already fallen incomplete. This hit needs to be a penalty 100% of the time. I'll defer to the league office as to whether or not it should be a fine as well. My opinion is that fines should be levied when a player is intentionally breaking rules or being especially reckless. While not intentional, I do think it's a 50/50 judgement call about him being overly "reckless."

Phobia
12-06-2010, 02:36 PM
I think we should be clear here though. MOST of the rules in the NFL are for when players accidentally do something. Just because it's unintentional doesn't mean it shouldn't be called. People rarely jump offsides on purpose. But it still costs you 5 yards. It's up to the defender to make sure he body is under control enough so that he can stop or let up in time as to not hit a dude who is completely defenseless. Especially when the pass has already fallen incomplete. This hit needs to be a penalty 100% of the time. I'll defer to the league office as to whether or not it should be a fine as well. My opinion is that fines should be levied when a player is intentionally breaking rules or being especially reckless. While not intentional, I do think it's a 50/50 judgement call about him being overly "reckless."

Wow. Players are coming at a dead sprint to make plays. There's no way you can fully pull up and avoid contact within the split second it takes to get there. It's one thing when you're smacking a QB who is standing still in the pocket but it's completely another when you're destined for a head-on collision with a would-be receiver who is coming towards you as fast as you are closing on him.

mcan
12-06-2010, 03:28 PM
Wow. Players are coming at a dead sprint to make plays. There's no way you can fully pull up and avoid contact within the split second it takes to get there. It's one thing when you're smacking a QB who is standing still in the pocket but it's completely another when you're destined for a head-on collision with a would-be receiver who is coming towards you as fast as you are closing on him.

Well, who am I to argue with a multi-millionaire!?

Casino cash much?


But seriously, just like it's up to me to drive my car at a safe distance so as to not hit another car, NFL players need to be able to keep their bodies in control enough to be able to make legal hits. It's their responsibility. If you're flying uncontrollably at somebody you're taking a risk that you're going to accidentally make an illegal hit. Doesn't make you an asshole. Just means that you're playing a little russian roulette with your health, the other players health, your field position, and also, your game check should you get fined.

mikeyis4dcats.
12-06-2010, 04:17 PM
Are you a dumbass? heh. There is a button that says EMBED... you click it and copy the code... then you paste it here. :evil:

yeah, SofaKing helped me out.

On 2 other VB boards I frequent there is code within the site to embed YT. Not here. Didn't know pasting the code off youtube worked.

Phobia
12-06-2010, 04:48 PM
Well, who am I to argue with a multi-millionaire!?

Casino cash much?


But seriously, just like it's up to me to drive my car at a safe distance so as to not hit another car, NFL players need to be able to keep their bodies in control enough to be able to make legal hits. It's their responsibility. If you're flying uncontrollably at somebody you're taking a risk that you're going to accidentally make an illegal hit. Doesn't make you an asshole. Just means that you're playing a little russian roulette with your health, the other players health, your field position, and also, your game check should you get fined.

Right. You're asking a guy who is performing at the peak of his capabilities - who might be chasing a guy down to save a yard, first down, touchdown, game, or even the season to keep his body under control. I can't even believe I'm debating this point. An athlete puts it all out there on the field.