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Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 11:00 AM
ESPN: Weis may not return to KC in 2011. Gainesville Sun's Dooley: Weis may land w/ Gators as OC. http://bit.ly/i013yB 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

from sportsbybrooks twitter...

edit:link works

Highlights:Weiss could leave soon to become the Gators OC possibly as early as sunday or monday, and Mcdaniels could replace him.

mortreport Chris Mortensen
Filed to ESPN and as Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley suggested, Charlie Weis is likely bound for Univ. of Florida as offensive coordinator

RustShack
12-31-2010, 11:02 AM
Why would he leave the NFL as an OC to be one in college?

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 11:02 AM
That's the problem with high profile coaches. Every one wants them.

beach tribe
12-31-2010, 11:02 AM
Why would he want to leave the pro game to be a college OC?

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 11:02 AM
Why would he leave the NFL as an OC to be one in college?

This too.

Sounds like someone is dreaming.

Demonpenz
12-31-2010, 11:02 AM
Good...he has been lackluster with his playcalling.

Micjones
12-31-2010, 11:02 AM
He'd have to be supremely unhappy here to step back into the college ranks as an OC.

KCUnited
12-31-2010, 11:04 AM
That guy would fall down dead within 2 weeks in that climate.

alpha_omega
12-31-2010, 11:04 AM
Seems like a step back...unless he really prefers to coach the college game.

threebag02
12-31-2010, 11:05 AM
Don't see it especially with the progression we have seen from the CHIEFS.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:06 AM
There's 100% no chance of this happening.

He said before he took this job that he's an NFL offensive coordinator and that's what he wants to do for the rest of his career.

the Talking Can
12-31-2010, 11:07 AM
i heard they promised him a lifetime supply of motorized wheelchairs and bidets....

Stinger
12-31-2010, 11:07 AM
LINK is here ......

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/report-charlie-weis-departing-kc-for-gators-29384

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 11:07 AM
Link is working now...

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 11:08 AM
There's 100% no chance of this happening.

He said before he took this job that he's an NFL offensive coordinator and that's what he wants to do for the rest of his career.

People say things man.

Michael Vick said he didn't kill any dogs.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 11:08 AM
Apparently Mortenson speculats Mcdaniels could replace Weiss

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 11:10 AM
Apparently Mortenson speculats Mcdaniels could replace Weiss

Haha. Haley and McDouche on the same staff?? No.

Ebolapox
12-31-2010, 11:11 AM
YEAH, don't see that happening.

JD10367
12-31-2010, 11:11 AM
It may stick in his craw that he failed at Notre Dame so, if the OC job is a steppingstone back to a college coaching job for the Gators or another big-time program, he might consider it, I'd think.

Frankly, I'm not sure it would be that great of a loss for KC. I've always been underwhelmed by Weis's streaky playcalling (great one game, shitty the next), and I think the improvement in KC's offense is due more to Cassel, Bowe, Moeaki, the running backs, and the O-line improvement--and I don't know how much of a hand Weis has had in any of that (but I'd be surprised if it was that much). I think another OC could step in next season and not miss a beat; in fact, with the addition of simply one solid WR and O-lineman, the offense should be even better next season.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:12 AM
People say things man.

Michael Vick said he didn't kill any dogs.

Sorry, it's complete unsubstanciated bullshit.

The Gators are going to announce 48 hours after the Bowl that Weis is their OC?

Really? He's going to leave an NFL team where he's paid very handsomely, int he middle of the playoff hunt, to go to Florida?

This is complete "throw it against the wall and see what sticks bullshit" simply based on the Mortensen report.

Reaper16
12-31-2010, 11:13 AM
This is everything that's wrong with sports journalism.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:13 AM
It may stick in his craw that he failed at Notre Dame so, if the OC job is a steppingstone back to a college coaching job for the Gators or another big-time program, he might consider it, I'd think.

Frankly, I'm not sure it would be that great of a loss for KC. I've always been underwhelmed by Weis's streaky playcalling (great one game, shitty the next), and I think the improvement in KC's offense is due more to Cassel, Bowe, Moeaki, the running backs, and the O-line improvement--and I don't know how much of a hand Weis has had in any of that (but I'd be surprised if it was that much). I think another OC could step in next season and not miss a beat; in fact, with the addition of simply one solid WR and O-lineman, the offense should be even better next season.

See I think the opposite about Weis. I think he helped Cassel significantly.

If this is all true by some miracle, and Weis does leave, it has to be about his personality conflicts with Haley than anything.

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 11:14 AM
LINK is here ......

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/report-charlie-weis-departing-kc-for-gators-29384

Yeah....Bullshit.

Weis sure as fuck isn't leaving KC before a playoff game. And just because the Gators want him doesn't mean he wants the gators.

And McDouche in KC with Haley? Get real.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 11:14 AM
Haha. Haley and McDouche on the same staff?? No.

That's what i was thinking

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:14 AM
If Weis does leave, then yes, McDaniels should be brought in.

JD10367
12-31-2010, 11:15 AM
Apparently Mortenson speculats Mcdaniels could replace Weiss

Given the weapons on KC, that would be a solid choice. He's certainly got more upside than Weis at this point in Charlie's career, and he'd bring knowledge of the Broncos to aid in those two victories next season.

Would McDaniels still be getting paid from Denver at the same time he was a Chiefs OC? Imagine how that'd stick in the craw of Broncos fans. LMAO

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 11:15 AM
If Weis does leave, then yes, McDaniels should be brought in.

Absolutely he should be...but would that happen?

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 11:16 AM
Sorry, it's complete unsubstanciated bullshit.

The Gators are going to announce 48 hours after the Bowl that Weis is their OC?

Really? He's going to leave an NFL team where he's paid very handsomely, int he middle of the playoff hunt, to go to Florida?

This is complete "throw it against the wall and see what sticks bullshit" simply based on the Mortensen report.

I'm not saying it isn't bullshit. Weis isn't going to Florida. But people say things. Just because he felt that way when he took the KC job, doesn't mean he wont change his mind and want to attempt hire ranked jobs in football.

threebag02
12-31-2010, 11:17 AM
" There is a lot of people talking shit about you "

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 11:20 AM
i call bullshit

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 11:21 AM
DaKCMan AP needs to chime in

WV
12-31-2010, 11:22 AM
The only possible scenario I could see is Weis leaving to be the HC at Florida, but why would they want him as HC?

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 11:22 AM
DaKCMan AP needs to chime in

No, he doesn't.

chief52
12-31-2010, 11:23 AM
Ya' Weiss is going to take a cut in pay...take a college job over an NFL job and hit the national recruiting trail kissing ass on high school seniors.

Sounds real plausible to me :shake::shake::shake:

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 11:23 AM
The only possible scenario I could see is Weis leaving to be the HC at Florida, but why would they want him as HC?

Florida just hired a new HC.

Dayze
12-31-2010, 11:23 AM
I'll wait until Nick Athan reports on the subject.

Brock
12-31-2010, 11:23 AM
Schefter was saying this last Sunday, and he has McDaniel as his possible replacement.

JD10367
12-31-2010, 11:24 AM
Sorry, it's complete unsubstanciated bullshit.

The Gators are going to announce 48 hours after the Bowl that Weis is their OC?

Really? He's going to leave an NFL team where he's paid very handsomely, int he middle of the playoff hunt, to go to Florida?

Bill Parcells, head coach of the New England Patriots on the way to face Green Bay in SB31, says hello.

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 11:24 AM
The only possible scenario I could see is Weis leaving to be the HC at Florida, but why would they want him as HC?
the only ways i see this as happening are..

1. Haley freaks out again and wants to be OC

2. Weis' health is getting worse and he just wants less to do


highly doubtful

Brock
12-31-2010, 11:25 AM
Maybe the hours are too much for him.

JD10367
12-31-2010, 11:26 AM
Maybe the <strike>hours are</strike> KC barbeque is too much for him.

FYP.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-31-2010, 11:28 AM
Wouldn't he be doing more work actually by going out on the recruiting run?

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 11:30 AM
the only ways i see this as happening are..

1. Haley freaks out again and wants to be OC

2. Weis' health is getting worse and he just wants less to do


highly doubtful

1. is not happening.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:30 AM
the only ways i see this as happening are..

1. Haley freaks out again and wants to be OC

2. Weis' health is getting worse and he just wants less to do


highly doubtful

There's no question that Weis' has health issues, but if he wanted to do less, he could retire after this year and live off all the money ND owes him for the rest of his life.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:31 AM
Wouldn't he be doing more work actually by going out on the recruiting run?

I dont know how much coordinators recruit, but it's a ton.

I just don't see this happening at all.

ChiTown
12-31-2010, 11:32 AM
Wouldn't he be doing more work actually by going out on the recruiting run?

My thoughts exactly. While the NFL is high pressure, being the OC of a major D1 is not would I would call, a vacation. Shit ton of work, plus a lot of "baby-sitting"

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 11:33 AM
Weis is one more good season away from an NFL HC job. Doubt he wants to go OC at the college level.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 11:34 AM
Just tweeted from..

SPORTSbyBROOKS

If @mortreport is correct, the point of Weis leaving KC is that he might not have a choice in 2011. Florida thing tho, that's a doozy.

Ebolapox
12-31-2010, 11:34 AM
maybe he means RACHEL weisz.

ChiTown
12-31-2010, 11:35 AM
Just tweeted from..

SPORTSbyBROOKS

If @mortreport is correct, the point of Weis leaving KC is that he might not have a choice in 2011. Florida thing tho, that's a doozy.

:spock:

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot?

Brock
12-31-2010, 11:36 AM
Weis is one more good season away from an NFL HC job. Doubt he wants to go OC at the college level.

weis will never be a HC in the NFL.

JD10367
12-31-2010, 11:36 AM
Weis is one more good season away from an NFL HC job. Doubt he wants to go OC at the college level.

Given his failure at ND, I'd say no.

Given the number of coaching vacancies there will be, I'd say yes.

Another thing to consider is the CBA. As much as we hate to think about it, there may not BE any football next year. So Weis might think that, while being OC of KC > being OC of FL, being OC of FL > growing another year older with no NFL football being played...

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 11:36 AM
:spock:

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot?

I assume that means we'd go after mcdaniels hard anyway

Bowser
12-31-2010, 11:36 AM
Just tweeted from..

SPORTSbyBROOKS

If @mortreport is correct, the point of Weis leaving KC is that he might not have a choice in 2011. Florida thing tho, that's a doozy.

What does that mean, that he's going to be shown the door in KC? Anything is possible, I guess, but this all has the faint aroma of bullshit attached to it.

threebag02
12-31-2010, 11:36 AM
Haley is going to take on the play calling again

ChiTown
12-31-2010, 11:37 AM
I assume that means we'd go after mcdaniels hard anyway

Oh, my!

Bowser
12-31-2010, 11:37 AM
Although, there have been intermitent(sp?) reports of Haley and Weiss arguing/clashing through the season....

LOOK AT ME I'M SUCH A FIRE STOKER!!

dirk digler
12-31-2010, 11:38 AM
That would suck if it were to happen. I don't want Haley going back to calling plays

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 11:41 AM
Nick Wright thinks he'd leave for a NFL HC job rather than OC...i just dont see him getting a HC job again

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-31-2010, 11:41 AM
It seems unlikely, but he will bring Florida a decided schematic advantage....


ROFL ROFL

Sorry, just had to break that one out again.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:42 AM
Everything I've been told indicates that Weis, Haley and the entire staff get along very well.

I think this is a case of people trying to make up situations to get stories.

ceebz
12-31-2010, 11:42 AM
Well, McDaniels was Pioli's #1 choice for HC, correct?

Maybe there are things going on behind the scenes, and there's conflict with Weis?

TBQH, I'd rather have McDaniels as OC any way.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:42 AM
Well, McDaniels was Pioli's #1 choice for HC, correct?

Maybe there are things going on behind the scense, and there's conflict with Weis?

TBQH, I'd rather have McDaniels as OC any way.

No, that's not correct.

Smed1065
12-31-2010, 11:42 AM
No, he doesn't.

This, that or the other............

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:43 AM
Nick Wright thinks he'd leave for a NFL HC job rather than OC...i just dont see him getting a HC job again

There's no NFL team that's hiring Weis as a HC. He actually has no desire to take on that responsibility.

But since Nick Wright said that, then there's more of a chance he'd leave for a college OC job.

Fish
12-31-2010, 11:44 AM
It may stick in his craw that he failed at Notre Dame so, if the OC job is a steppingstone back to a college coaching job for the Gators or another big-time program, he might consider it, I'd think.

Frankly, I'm not sure it would be that great of a loss for KC. I've always been underwhelmed by Weis's streaky playcalling (great one game, shitty the next), and I think the improvement in KC's offense is due more to Cassel, Bowe, Moeaki, the running backs, and the O-line improvement--and I don't know how much of a hand Weis has had in any of that (but I'd be surprised if it was that much). I think another OC could step in next season and not miss a beat; in fact, with the addition of simply one solid WR and O-lineman, the offense should be even better next season.

Ummm..... so you're saying we saw incredible improvement in all areas of the offense, but the offensive coordinator wouldn't be missed?

I hate the way Weis is completely overlooked in all the offensive improvements. With very few significant changes in offensive personnel, Weis came in and took the #25 overall ranked offense and raised it to the #9 overall ranked offense. Both Bowe and Cassel are playing at a completely different level than they were just a year ago. But all that's said about Weis is criticizing his playcalling. Criticizing playcalling is is a rather pointless affair anyway.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-31-2010, 11:44 AM
I wouldn't be worried about losing Weis as a play caller, I'd be worried about losing him as a QB coach/mentor.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:44 AM
Haley is not going to call the plays again. If Weis did leave, they'd hire McDaniels or someone else from the tree like Garrett if he's not retained in Dallas.

ceebz
12-31-2010, 11:44 AM
Everything I've been told indicates that Weis, Haley and the entire staff get along very well.

I think this is a case of people trying to make up situations to get stories.

Could be. On the other hand, Mort and Schefter are usually pretty accurate with their speculation.

doomy3
12-31-2010, 11:45 AM
I wouldn't be worried about losing Weis as a play caller, I'd be worried about losing him as a QB coach/mentor.

This.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:46 AM
Could be. On the other hand, Mort and Schefter are usually pretty accurate with their speculation.

Not really.

JD10367
12-31-2010, 11:47 AM
Unless there's a personal conflict between Haley and Weis, or Weis has health issues, or Weis simply really wants to be the OC of Florida, I don't know why the Chiefs and/or Haley would want to replace Weis and/or have Haley take over the offense. I mean, it's not like the O in KC has stagnated under Weis.

YPG: 9th

1st downs PG: 11th

PPG: 11th

TOP per game: 8th

Turnover ratio: tied for 5th with GB at +10 (Eagles +12, Falcons +13, Steelers +14, Patriots an otherworldly +27).

Rushing YPG: 1st

Passing YPG: 28th, BUT... QB rating of Cassel is 5th, only bettered by Vick, Rodgers, Rivers, and Brady... so it's not like they're 28th 'cause they suck, they're just 28th 'cause that's all they need out of the passing game, really.

Those are all very solid numbers.

ceebz
12-31-2010, 11:47 AM
Not really.

I tend to think they are. Especially, Schefter.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:48 AM
I tend to think they are. Especially, Schefter.

Then you would be wrong.

Their speculation is hardly ever correct. They are wrong far more than they are right.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 11:49 AM
I tend to think they are. Especially, Schefter.

Mort got Mike Shanny to KC didn't he

ceebz
12-31-2010, 11:50 AM
Then you would be wrong.

Their speculation is hardly ever correct. They are wrong far more than they are right.


Hmm, I guess we'll have to wait and see, then?

ceebz
12-31-2010, 11:50 AM
Mort got Mike Shanny to KC didn't he

Was Mort the guy who broke that? I don't believe he was.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 11:55 AM
Was Mort the guy who broke that? I don't believe he was.

Yes, he was and he was the one who stuck by the story for hours after.

DeezNutz
12-31-2010, 11:57 AM
This rumor doesn't pass the common sense sniff test.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 11:57 AM
Who was it that said "Scott Pioli will not go to the Chiefs"??? Hmmmm.

Pablo
12-31-2010, 11:58 AM
In related news.

Jamaal Charles to return to the Longhorns in 2011

JD10367
12-31-2010, 11:58 AM
Ummm..... so you're saying we saw incredible improvement in all areas of the offense, but the offensive coordinator wouldn't be missed?

I hate the way Weis is completely overlooked in all the offensive improvements. With very few significant changes in offensive personnel, Weis came in and took the #25 overall ranked offense and raised it to the #9 overall ranked offense. Both Bowe and Cassel are playing at a completely different level than they were just a year ago. But all that's said about Weis is criticizing his playcalling. Criticizing playcalling is is a rather pointless affair anyway.

They added Thomas Jones (827 yards rushing, ranks 27th in the NFL with having Charles ranked 3rd with 1380), Moeaki (539 yards receiving, ranks 13th), and Arenas/McCluster on returns doing a good job to put the offense in position. Yes, Bowe has improved and so has Cassel, and Charles is more of a passing game weapon; if those three things can be attributed to Weis, kudos, but I wonder how much of it is simply having a year under their belts with Haley and each other.

Coogs
12-31-2010, 11:59 AM
Damn! Paul Hackett revisited! :shake:

Not now. No distractions until the season is over... no matter how short or long the playoff run lasts.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:00 PM
I remember Shefter quickly debunked that Shanny to kc founding...my friend that works at a colorado sports station sent me an mp3 maybe 20 min after seeing that on espn saying no way it happens after he talked to shefter

RustShack
12-31-2010, 12:01 PM
I think Weis stays, and McDaniels is our QB coach who will resume as OC when Weis retires. Unless Mc is for some reason offered another HC job or is content sitting on his as getting paid by the Donkeys for now.

JD10367
12-31-2010, 12:02 PM
I think Weis stays, and McDaniels is our QB coach who will resume as OC when Weis retires. Unless Mc is for some reason offered another HC job or is content sitting on his as getting paid by the Donkeys for now.

Nice idea, but I can't see McDaniels stepping all the way back to QB coach after being a head coach. OC, maybe, but not QB coach.

DeezNutz
12-31-2010, 12:02 PM
Wasn't it Shefter who eviscerated Nick Athan about "THE DEAL IS DONE!!!"?

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 12:04 PM
i just don't see it ... McDaniels is a pass happy mofo and Haley is not.

It's been quite a surprise to me about how Martyball-ish Haley's attitude about offense has been. I expected the exact opposite from him. That's said maybe Haley is just trying to set the tone or doesn't think the players he has right now can handle passing the ball much. :shrug:

but i think the reason Cassel got benched for 2 plays was because he was checking off to passes against 8/9 man fronts and Haley just wanted to run the ball no matter what. I don't think Haley will be happy with how aggressive McDaniels will want to be.

whole things sounds like bullshit to me but ...

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:05 PM
i just don't see it ... McDaniels is a pass happy mofo and Haley is not.

It's been quite a surprise to me about how Martyball-ish Haley's attitude about offense has been. I expected the exact opposite from him. That's said maybe Haley is just trying to set the tone or doesn't think the player he has right now can handle passing the ball much. :shrug:

but i think the reason Cassel got benched for 2 plays was because he was checking off to passes against 8/9 man fronts and Haley just wanted to run the ball no matter what. I don't think Haley will be happy with how aggressive McDaniels will want to be.

whole things sounds like bullshit to me but ...

Haley absolutely was a pass first OC.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:07 PM
Haley absolutely was a pass first OC.

I was about to post that, that was the strength at ARZ the WR's and QB play

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 12:08 PM
Haley absolutely was a pass first OC.
tbh the offense was put in place and controlled by Whisenhunt. He even called the plays for the awhile before Haley took over.

As a Head coach, Haley has been very parcell-ish thus far.

KcMizzou
12-31-2010, 12:11 PM
People say things man.

Michael Vick said he didn't kill any dogs.I tell my wife I'll take out the trash... sometimes I don't.

CoMoChief
12-31-2010, 12:12 PM
1. Florida is a much better place to live than KCMO
2. $$$ - probably is the biggest factor, UF may give him twice the amount he's making in KC, but not like he has to worry about $$$, that ND buyout was probably a monsterous payment.
3. Maybe eventually he wants to be a HC in college again, and getting back into the NCAA levels will help eventually accomplish that, who knows?

Von Dumbass
12-31-2010, 12:13 PM
I really hope McDaniels doesn't go to KC. Only a real douche would go inside the division one year after coaching a team.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:13 PM
1. Florida is a much better place to live than KCMO
2. $$$ - probably is the biggest factor, UF may give him twice the amount he's making in KC, but not like he has to worry about $$$, that ND buyout was probably a monsterous payment.
3. Maybe eventually he wants to be a HC in college again, and getting back into the NCAA levels will help eventually accomplish that, who knows?

Florida is going to give him 4 million a year to be an OC?

No fucking chance.

DaWolf
12-31-2010, 12:13 PM
If Weis leaves for any reason I wouldn't be shocked (or thrilled) to see a combination of Carthon and Sirianni promoted to that position, which allows Haley to keep his hand in the cookie jar...

diveonthefloor31
12-31-2010, 12:14 PM
I think a lot of Weis's motivation will be related to how he perceives he is treated by Pioli, Haley, and even Clark Hunt.

I think a lot of Weis's "climb the ladder" desires were satisfied (if not pleasantly so) by the ND experience.

I'm guessing he stays put, possibly for quite a while.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:14 PM
I really hope McDaniels doesn't go to KC. Only a real douche would go inside the division one year after coaching a team.

You got another 27 hours on this message board. Make it memorable you ass pimple.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:15 PM
I really hope McDaniels doesn't go to KC. Only a real douche would go inside the division one year after coaching a team.

He is a real douche.

I'd like him as our OC. Not over Weis, but Josh is a very good OC. Not so much HC.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:15 PM
You got another 27 hours on this message board. Make it memorable you ass pimple.

Check the sig. His ass is gone. I didn't let him off the hook.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:15 PM
If Weis leaves for any reason I wouldn't be shocked (or thrilled) to see a combination of Carthon and Sirianni promoted to that position, which allows Haley to keep his hand in the cookie jar...

If Carthon was going to have his hand in anything, he would have been selected when Chan was let go.

RINGLEADER
12-31-2010, 12:16 PM
Sorry, it's complete unsubstanciated bullshit.

The Gators are going to announce 48 hours after the Bowl that Weis is their OC?

Really? He's going to leave an NFL team where he's paid very handsomely, int he middle of the playoff hunt, to go to Florida?

This is complete "throw it against the wall and see what sticks bullshit" simply based on the Mortensen report.

The only reasoning that I could think might give the story credence is if a) Weis prefers the college game, b) doesn't get along with Haley, c) because of medical or other reasons prefers the college schedule, d) all of the above.

For all we know this isn't "news" at all. For all we know Weis and Haley always knew it would be a one-year thing.

Or it could be complete BS.

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 12:16 PM
Charlie Weis may not be long for Kansas City

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 31, 2010, 1:42 PM EST
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/c-weis.jpg?w=151

If there was an offensive coordinator of the year award, we’d vote for Charlie Weis of the Chiefs. Matt Cassel (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3237) has played mistake-free football, Jamaal Charles (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=4617) might win the rushing title (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/31/arian-foster-jamaal-charles-gunning-for-rushing-title/), and a long-struggling offensive line has turned things around.

Despite all that, there is increasing chatter that Weis may not return to the team in 2011.

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen warned on last week’s Countdown (http://www.livedash.com/transcript/sunday_nfl_countdown/3366/ESPN/Sunday_December_26_2010/538710/) not to be surprised if Weis was replaced by Josh McDaniels after the season. That report seemed so out of left field it didn’t really light a media fire.

Now longtime Gainesville Sun columnist Pat Dooley throws gas on the notion, saying that Weis could end up as the offensive coordinator at University of Florida. Here’s Dooley on his radio show (http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/report-charlie-weis-departing-kc-for-gators-29384), via SportsByBrooks.com

“In terms of Florida’s Offensive Coordinator, if you’re driving in your car, I want you to pull over. When I say this, you’re going to freak out. . . . I think your new offensive coordinator for the Florida Gators is going to be Charlie Weis.

“I’ve heard this from some people in the NFL, that that’s going on. My first reaction was, ‘are you kidding me, why would Charlie Weis leave Kansas City to go to Florida in the same job’? … Wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense.”

Dooley is a well-respected name that is not known for just throwing stuff against the wall. Dooley’s claim also helps explains Mort’s report. We’ll keep a close eye on this one in the coming days. It’s unclear which side would be looking for a divorce. Or if its mutual.

The only logical explanation of a Weis-Todd Haley break would be something personal. (Weis wanting a lighter work schedule or to return to college? Personality conflict?) Weis’ results in Kansas City have exceeded all expectations.

Just Passin' By
12-31-2010, 12:17 PM
I really hope McDaniels doesn't go to KC. Only a real douche would go inside the division one year after coaching a team.

The Broncos fired him. He didn't just step down. There's no reason for him not to take a job in the AFCW, if that's where an employment opportunity happens to be. Don't be more of a dumbass than you need to be.

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 12:18 PM
would getting back into college football effect the Notre Dame buyout money?

CoMoChief
12-31-2010, 12:18 PM
I really hope McDaniels doesn't go to KC. Only a real douche would go inside the division one year after coaching a team.

He didn't leave by his own terms, he was fired.

So why would going inside the division matter? In fact, it actually sounds like something that shithead would do.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:19 PM
Check the sig. His ass is gone. I didn't let him off the hook.

Great sig

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:19 PM
would getting back into college football effect the Notre Dame buyout money?

I think they would be able to deduct what he received from Florida.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-31-2010, 12:20 PM
would getting back into college football effect the Notre Dame buyout money?

I'd bet it's only for HC positions.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-31-2010, 12:20 PM
kentbabb Kent Babb
#Chiefs coach Todd Haley was asked about Weis-to-Florida rumors. He said it was first he'd heard of it, but he didn't deny anything.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:20 PM
KnowMo admits that Mike Shanahan is a real douche.

DaWolf
12-31-2010, 12:20 PM
#Chiefs coach Todd Haley was asked about Weis-to-Florida rumors. He said it was first he'd heard of it, but he didn't deny anything.

http://twitter.com/kentbabb

DaWolf
12-31-2010, 12:21 PM
kentbabb Kent Babb
#Chiefs coach Todd Haley was asked about Weis-to-Florida rumors. He said it was first he'd heard of it, but he didn't deny anything.

Beat me. :)

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:22 PM
What can he deny if that's the first he's heard of it?

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:23 PM
What can he deny if that's the first he's heard of it?

Babb knew it would be fun to keep the fire breathing.

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 12:24 PM
Beat me. :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/3285533837_bd6548ddd4.jpg

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 12:28 PM
What can he deny if that's the first he's heard of it?
If Pioli/Haley are really forcing Weis out then he would of already heard of it.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-31-2010, 12:29 PM
mortreport Chris Mortensen
Filed to ESPN and as Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley suggested, Charlie Weis is likely bound for Univ. of Florida as offensive coordinator

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:29 PM
mortreport

Filed to ESPN and as Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley suggested, Charlie Weis is likely bound for Univ. of Florida as offensive coordinator

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 12:29 PM
So in order for me to believe this is true, he has to leave the Chiefs by this Sunday or Monday? Before or the day after the Raiders game and a week before the playoffs?

Right........That's not going to happen.

And if it does, Weis is a douche.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:30 PM
If Pioli/Haley are really forcing Weis out then he would of already heard of it.

Yeah, all this talk that they are forcing Weis out is laughable.

Pioli and Haley are the 2 reasons Weis came here in the first place. Haley and Weis have been friends for years and Pioli has been with Weis most of his professional career.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:30 PM
WTF? When? Not in the middle of the season I'd hope.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:30 PM
So in order for me to believe this is true, he has to leave the Chiefs by this Sunday or Monday? Before or the day after the Raiders game and a week before the playoffs?

Right........That's not going to happen.

And if it does, Weis is a douche.

It would be an epic fucking douchebag move.

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:30 PM
mortreport Chris Mortensen
Filed to ESPN and as Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley suggested, Charlie Weis is likely bound for Univ. of Florida as offensive coordinator

mortreport

Filed to ESPN and as Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley suggested, Charlie Weis is likely bound for Univ. of Florida as offensive coordinator

Repost. Muaha.

Anyways, what are the chances McD comes to KC now? I'm going to say 30/70.

doomy3
12-31-2010, 12:31 PM
There's 100% no chance of this happening.

He said before he took this job that he's an NFL offensive coordinator and that's what he wants to do for the rest of his career.

Are you still sticking to this?

Reaper16
12-31-2010, 12:31 PM
Why would Weis even agree to this when his current employer is going to the playoffs? Seems like a dick move.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:31 PM
Repost. Muaha.

Anyways, what are the chances McD comes to KC now? I'm going to say 30/70.

I started the thread asshole:p

Goodluck sunday

doomy3
12-31-2010, 12:32 PM
Why the fuck does this have to be happening now?

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:32 PM
So in order for me to believe this is true, he has to leave the Chiefs by this Sunday or Monday? Before or the day after the Raiders game and a week before the playoffs?

Right........That's not going to happen.

And if it does, Weis is a douche.


Doug Marrone(the HC for Syracuse) was the OC for the Saints when he was hired by them. He stayed in NOLA for a few days when the announcement was made, but left the team so he could focus on his coaching duties for Syracuse.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:32 PM
Are you still sticking to this?

I'm sticking to what I was told by someone close to Charlie when this story came out. It may not be 100% now, but I'll be speechless if this does in fact happen.

Tuckdaddy
12-31-2010, 12:33 PM
Why would he leave the NFL as an OC to be one in college?

Exactly? Why would he do that?

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 12:33 PM
Doug Marrone(the HC for Syracuse) was the OC for the Saints when he was hired by them. He stayed in NOLA for a few days when the announcement was made, but left the team so he could focus on his coaching duties for Syracuse.

Right before a playoff run?

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 12:33 PM
I'm sticking to what I was told by someone close to Charlie when this story came out. It may not be 100% now, but I'll be speechless if this does in fact happen.

What were you told?

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:33 PM
I started the thread asshole:p

Goodluck sunday

I'm going to need it, thank you. Not going to derail this thread.

What are the chances that Russ Grimm comes to KC? He knows Haley from his days in AZ.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:34 PM
I'm sticking to what I was told by someone close to Charlie when this story came out. It may not be 100% now, but I'll be speechless if this does in fact happen.

I don't get why he'd come for just 1 year, things are looking great

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:34 PM
Right before a playoff run?

This was 2008, the Saints were 8-8 that year. I don't know if they were eliminated the time he left, but he left sometime in December.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:34 PM
I'm going to need it, thank you. Not going to derail this thread.

What are the chances that Russ Grimm comes to KC? He knows Haley from his days in AZ.

I'd think Grimm would be a HC candidate somewhere

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:35 PM
I'd think Grimm would be a HC candidate somewhere

If Grimm is passed up on for a HC job, I think there's a chance he could go to KC.

KC_Connection
12-31-2010, 12:36 PM
Is Todd Haley just a huge asshole that's impossible to work for or something?

If not, this possible move doesn't make a bit of sense.

tk13
12-31-2010, 12:36 PM
It's on the front page of ESPN now...

Reporting Weis will stay with the team through the playoffs but is expected to take the Florida job.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:36 PM
Keep this in mind, this is all coming from 1 source. 1 opinion, correct? The columnist from the Florida paper?

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-31-2010, 12:36 PM
Is Todd Haley just a huge asshole that's impossible to work for or something?

If not, this possible move doesn't make a bit of sense.

You ever think they might just not get along????????

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:36 PM
What were you told?

I was told that Charlie is staying and that he really enjoys the players and staff. He's committed to doing big things here.

When I talked to this guy, he basically laughed off the report and said no chance.

I just text'd him and he said it's picking up some steam but he still doesn't believe it happens.

I'll be shocked.

tk13
12-31-2010, 12:37 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5974715

By Chris Mortensen
ESPN
Archive

Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Charlie Weis is being targeted by the University of Florida Gators to become the offensive coordinator under new coach Will Muschamp, two sources confirmed to ESPN.

Weis is expected to take the job, but no firm agreement is in place.

Muschamp contacted the Chiefs this week for permission to talk to Weis, with the full intention of hiring the Chiefs offensive coordinator and former Notre Dame head coach, sources said. A Florida source said Weis would continue to coach the Chiefs into the AFC playoffs. Another source reiterated that Weis is expected to accept the job.

In his first year on the job, Muschamp has been focused on hiring an NFL offensive coordinator to install a pro-style offense and to assist with attracting pro-style quarterbacks and receivers to the Gators program, sources said.

The Gainesville Sun first reported that Weis was the leading candidate for the Gators' offensive coordinator position.

Chiefs coach Todd Haley did not wish to comment on the report when he was contacted by ESPN and other media members at his Friday press conference.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:38 PM
It's on the front page of ESPN now...

Reporting Weis will stay with the team through the playoffs but is expected to take the Florida job.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5974715

KC_Connection
12-31-2010, 12:38 PM
You ever think they might just not get along????????
It crossed my mind when I read the rumor, yes.

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:38 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5974715

From that article:

Muschamp contacted the Chiefs this week for permission to talk to Weis, with the full intention of hiring the Chiefs offensive coordinator and former Notre Dame head coach, sources said.

The Chiefs could have said no to Florida if Muschamp asked permission to talk to Charlie.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:39 PM
So all we know is that Muschamp talked to weis. But nothing other than that is known.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:39 PM
And yet another text saying things are changing fast.

Well I'm shocked. I have no idea what connection Weis has to Muschamp, but if Florida contacted the Chiefs, and received permission, then the Chiefs might be concerned with Weis holding up the grind health wise.

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:40 PM
So all we know is that Muschamp talked to weis. But nothing other than that is known.

From what is being reported, that's the only thing I believe right now. But what's the point in letting Florida talk to him if they want Charlie to stay in KC?

Extra Point
12-31-2010, 12:40 PM
Mortensen throws a lot of mud on the wall. I think he mixes a lot of his own.

Flip a coin on this one. It will land in wet dirt.

Haley greets Charlie at his office door, points his finger and yells, "Alot of people are talking shit about you!" Charlie pulls Haley's finger and farts a ventriloquistic sonata: "When I'm calling you-ooo-ooo-ooo." They both have a good laugh, Weis goes to the john, takes care of business, then, they game plan for this Sunday.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:40 PM
And yet another text saying things are changing fast.

Well I'm shocked. I have no idea what connection Weis has to Muschamp, but if Florida contacted the Chiefs, and received permission, then the Chiefs might be concerned with Weis holding up the grind health wise.

I'd be concerned with his health too....

Mcdaniels up next? What a huge turn of events that would be.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:41 PM
And yet another text saying things are changing fast.

Well I'm shocked. I have no idea what connection Weis has to Muschamp, but if Florida contacted the Chiefs, and received permission, then the Chiefs might be concerned with Weis holding up the grind health wise.

Sounds like your "source" is just changing his stance as things are becoming more popular.

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:41 PM
Weis should leave now if Florida wants him. He's going to be distracted from doing his job as the OC for the Chiefs. What a cheap move by Weis.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:42 PM
Sounds like your "source" is just changing his stance as things are becoming more popular.

I have no idea to be sure.

I know he's close to Charlie, but if Weis is keeping things close to his vest then there's no way he'd find out.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:42 PM
Weis should leave now if Florida wants him. He's going to be distracted from doing his job as the OC for the Chiefs. What a cheap move by Weis.

Yeah this could change things in the playoffs big time. At this moment we need full focus. Not some BS from that stupid Florida team.

doomy3
12-31-2010, 12:42 PM
If Weis leaves, I would be very happy with McDaniels as our OC.

DMAC
12-31-2010, 12:43 PM
As long as Romeo stays the fuck put.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:43 PM
Turn on ESPNNEWS....Bout to talk about it....

Stinger
12-31-2010, 12:43 PM
Just posted by Mort

Sources: Gators pursuing Charlie Weis
By Chris Mortensen
ESPN

Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Charlie Weis is being targeted by the University of Florida Gators to become the offensive coordinator under new coach Will Muschamp, two sources confirmed to ESPN.

Weis is expected to take the job, but no firm agreement is in place.

Muschamp contacted the Chiefs this week for permission to talk to Weis, with the full intention of hiring the Chiefs offensive coordinator and former Notre Dame head coach, sources said. A Florida source said Weis would continue to coach the Chiefs into the AFC playoffs. Another source reiterated that Weis is expected to accept the job.

In his first year on the job, Muschamp has been focused on hiring an NFL offensive coordinator to install a pro-style offense and to assist with attracting pro-style quarterbacks and receivers to the Gators program, sources said.

The Gainesville Sun first reported that Weis was the leading candidate for the Gators' offensive coordinator position.

Chiefs coach Todd Haley did not wish to comment on the report when he was contacted by ESPN and other media members at his Friday press conference.

Chris Mortensen is the senior NFL analyst for ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5974715

DeezNutz
12-31-2010, 12:43 PM
Weis should leave now if Florida wants him. He's going to be distracted from doing his job as the OC for the Chiefs. What a cheap move by Weis.

No, he shouldn't.

Even if he decides to go, Weis is a professional and will give the Chiefs his best effort in the playoffs.

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:44 PM
If Weis is hired by the Gators before next week, would Haley be calling the plays for the offense in the playoffs?

DMAC
12-31-2010, 12:45 PM
No, he shouldn't.

Even if he decides to go, Weis is a professional and will give the Chiefs his best effort in the playoffs.

This. Rams Fan just wants us to lose.

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:45 PM
No, he shouldn't.

Even if he decides to go, Weis is a professional and will give the Chiefs his best effort in the playoffs.

He'd basically be working two jobs. And he would miss some recruiting time if he stayed with the Chiefs during their playoff run.

CaliforniaChief
12-31-2010, 12:45 PM
Well maybe McDaniels is finally going to get the QB he always wanted to coach.

Extra Point
12-31-2010, 12:45 PM
Weis is going to fulfill his obligations to the team. Let's worry about the 2011-12 season AFTER the 2010-11 season!

DMAC
12-31-2010, 12:46 PM
If Weis is hired by the Gators before next week, would Haley be calling the plays for the offense in the playoffs?

Is Jimmy Raye available?

CaliforniaChief
12-31-2010, 12:46 PM
Is Jimmy Raye available?

Bannable suggestion.

KC_Connection
12-31-2010, 12:46 PM
Unless Cassel somehow regresses without him next year, I'm not convinced that this is really a loss at all.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:46 PM
Glad Haley gave mcdaniels a hug

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:46 PM
Mortensen's article is hardly concrete though. First paragraph says they are pursuing him. Then it says he's expected to take it, but no firm agreement. Then he's going to continue coaching the Chiefs in the playoffs.

It does sound like he's just taking Dooley's sources and creating his own story.

Stinger
12-31-2010, 12:47 PM
Is Jimmy Raye available?

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DeezNutz
12-31-2010, 12:47 PM
He'd basically be working two jobs. And he would miss some recruiting time if he stayed with the Chiefs during their playoff run.

No, he wouldn't. His obligations to Florida, in this case, wouldn't begin until after KC's season was over.

DMAC
12-31-2010, 12:47 PM
Unless Cassel somehow regresses without him next year, I'm not convinced that this is really a loss at all.

Oh it's a loss....a weight loss. PFFTTT ROFL

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:47 PM
Mortensen's article is hardly concrete though. First paragraph says they are pursuing him. Then it says he's expected to take it, but no firm agreement. Then he's going to continue coaching the Chiefs in the playoffs.

It does sound like he's just taking Dooley's sources and creating his own story.

Basically..

Like I said...This is ALL from 1 guy. 1 source.

Reaper16
12-31-2010, 12:48 PM
Well I'm shocked. I have no idea what connection Weis has to Muschamp, but if Florida contacted the Chiefs, and received permission, then the Chiefs might be concerned with Weis holding up the grind health wise.
Charlie Weis A Dying Breed

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:48 PM
Mortensen's article is hardly concrete though. First paragraph says they are pursuing him. Then it says he's expected to take it, but no firm agreement. Then he's going to continue coaching the Chiefs in the playoffs.

It does sound like he's just taking Dooley's sources and creating his own story.
I asked him on twitter 'is this more conrete than shanny to kc?' not sure he answers

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:48 PM
ESPNNEWS. Turn it on....Bout to discuss.

DeezNutz
12-31-2010, 12:48 PM
I am struggling to understand how this would be a beneficial move for Weis. Similar money. Lower profile. More bullshit.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:49 PM
It is curious to me that the guy I trust is saying things are changing. He was the one who gave me well advanced info that Weis agreed here.

Regardless, fuck Weis for letting this become an issue. Even if he did have interest, he could have told them he'd talk after the season was over.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:49 PM
JasonLaCanfora

Confirming reports that Charlie Weis could leave Chiefs to be coordinator at U of Florida. Had not heard much NFL buzz on Weis, this may .

JasonLaCanfora

Explain it. Also. If Weis leaves KC, Josh McDaniels would be an obvious candidate to replace him - ties to Cassel, the system and knows AFCW 1 minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 12:50 PM
IF .......... this does happen then we might need to start considering that Haley is not going to last very long as a Head Coach. I mean if his old friend/working buddy who he respects and shared a tiny office with for 8 years ... blah,blah,blah can't handle working with him for more than a year then it's a problem.

Weis is willing to take a major demotion just to get away from Haley???
Weis is willing to leave an improving NFL franchise to become a college OC??
Haley has been here 2 years and has already gone through 3 coordinators???

that's fucked up

Extra Point
12-31-2010, 12:50 PM
Charlie Weis A Dying Breed

You're a sick bastard! And entertaining.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:50 PM
At this point Weis should make a public announcement downplaying it if it is not true.

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:51 PM
Regardless, **** Weis for letting this become an issue. Even if he did have interest, he could have told them he'd talk after the season was over.

I agree with this. Weis shouldn't have let this become an issue until after the Chiefs season is over.

KC_Connection
12-31-2010, 12:51 PM
IF .......... this does happen then we might need to start considering that Haley is not going to last very long as a Head Coach. I mean if his old friend/working buddy who he respects and shared a tiny office with for 8 years ... blah,blah,blah can't handle working with him for more than a year then it's a problem.

Weis is willing to take a major demotion just to get away from Haley???
Weis is willing to leave an improving NFL franchise to become a college OC??
Haley has been here 2 years and has already gone through 3 coordinators???

that's ****ed up

All signs point to Haley being a major asshole, yeah.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:52 PM
All signs point to Haley being a major asshole, yeah.

Last I checked Weis is a major asshole.

KC_Connection
12-31-2010, 12:54 PM
Last I checked Weis is a major asshole.
They can both be assholes.

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 12:54 PM
i knew this coaching staff wouldn't last, but disbanding this fast? Phuck.....

Yeah..this exactly the kind of distraction this young team needed heading into their first playoff game. Asshole.

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:54 PM
From PFT:

Weis’ possible motivation for a change (and the Chiefs’ motivation to let him go) is unclear. Weis may want to get back into college football or perhaps he and Chiefs coach Todd Haley just didn’t want to keep working together.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/31/report-weis-departure-for-florida-is-likely/

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:55 PM
Well that ESPN take was fuckin dumb.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:55 PM
the OC wants to leave isn't the end of the world, crennel better stay put

DMAC
12-31-2010, 12:55 PM
They can both be assholes.

Everyone is a gawt dang asshole.

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 12:55 PM
ESPNNEWS. Turn it on....Bout to discuss.
shite ... we have more info about it on this board then they just said

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 12:55 PM
Well that ESPN take was fuckin dumb.

All of 2 seconds....now onto uconn women

B_Ambuehl
12-31-2010, 12:55 PM
Weis leaving is one thing.

But McDouche being brought in to replace him after the altercation he and Haley had?

Talk about an accident waiting to happen.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:55 PM
Well that ESPN take was ****in dumb.

No substance. Nothing.

It's basically rehashing the original report.

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 12:55 PM
shite ... we have more info about it on this board then they just said

What was said?

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:56 PM
the OC wants to leave isn't the end of the world, crennel better stay put


It isn't the end of the world, but it's a distraction that the Chiefs shouldn't have floating above their heads when they are about a week away from playing a playoff game.

DMAC
12-31-2010, 12:56 PM
Fuck you media.

Fuck you Weis.

Go Chiefs.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 12:56 PM
Weis leaving is one thing.

But McDouche being brought in to replace him after the altercation he and Haley had?

Talk about an accident waiting to happen.

This thread is for knowledgable football discussion. Find your way out of it.

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 12:56 PM
I hate the Gators now. They're tampering with our season.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 12:58 PM
I hate the Gators now. They're tampering with our season.

Kind of feels that way doesn't it?

If this actually happens, I will hate that fucking school for a long time.

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 12:58 PM
What was said?No substance. Nothing.

It's basically rehashing the original report..

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 12:58 PM
I hate the Gators now. They're tampering with our season.

I wonder if there can be some rule between the NFL and the NCAA where college football teams can't talk to coaches that are currently employed by a NFL team and vice versa.

Reaper16
12-31-2010, 12:59 PM
Tim Tebow, the Bronco, called in a favor from his old disciples.

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 12:59 PM
I've hated the Gators for years. They're tampering with our season.FYP

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-31-2010, 12:59 PM
Ross (Kansas City)


Any updates on Charlie Weis to Flordia news?

Adam Schefter (2:42 PM)


My buddy Mort is reporting that Charlie Weis is being targeted by the University of Florida to take over as offensive coordinator. Weis is expected to take the job. But the one thing I feel confident in saying is, he won't be back in Kansas City next season.

chief52
12-31-2010, 01:00 PM
I just do not believe this is going to happen.

#1 Why would Weis want to go from an NFL OC to OC at Florida? Major step down and for what?

#2 We all know Weis is not in the greatest of health. So now he is going to hit the national recruiting scene and fly all over kissing ass on college seniors? How much sense does that make?

#3 If Haley and Weis are truly at odds Weis would be a top choice with nearly all the new NFL coaches this season. Why go back to college?

Can not see Weis at Florida next season. Makes no sense.

DMAC
12-31-2010, 01:00 PM
Ya never know...keeping him might be more of a distraction to the players. Letting him go might be a load off their minds.

:thumb: :spock:

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 01:00 PM
Ross (Kansas City)


Any updates on Charlie Weis to Flordia news?

Adam Schefter (2:42 PM)


My buddy Mort is reporting that Charlie Weis is being targeted by the University of Florida to take over as offensive coordinator. Weis is expected to take the job. But the one thing I feel confident in saying is, he won't be back in Kansas City next season.

Nothing new here. Schefter just getting his fingers in on the mess.

Reaper16
12-31-2010, 01:01 PM
CHOOSE A SIDE, DAKCMANAP. WE'RE AT WAR.

DMAC
12-31-2010, 01:01 PM
Tim Tebow, the Bronco, called in a favor from his old disciples.

Break his kneecaps.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-31-2010, 01:01 PM
But the one thing I feel confident in saying is, he won't be back in Kansas City next season.


ADAM wouldn't say that if this thing didn't have legs

DeezNutz
12-31-2010, 01:02 PM
Ross (Kansas City)


Any updates on Charlie Weis to Flordia news?

Adam Schefter (2:42 PM)


My buddy Mort is reporting that Charlie Weis is being targeted by the University of Florida to take over as offensive coordinator. Weis is expected to take the job. But the one thing I feel confident in saying is, he won't be back in Kansas City next season.

Ok, need to know the underlying issue here.

Just throwing shit out here: I wonder if the weird Cassel benching (which hasn't gotten much run around here, oddly) is a window into a bit of discord concerning how the offense is run and the playcalling?

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 01:02 PM
Damn reposting shit

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 01:02 PM
Ross (Kansas City)


Any updates on Charlie Weis to Flordia news?

Adam Schefter (2:42 PM)


My buddy Mort is reporting that Charlie Weis is being targeted by the University of Florida to take over as offensive coordinator. Weis is expected to take the job. But the one thing I feel confident in saying is, he won't be back in Kansas City next season.

WTF??

this is not good, it doesn't bode well for Haley's management skills. :cuss:

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 01:03 PM
...Going off of what Deez is saying....Who was it that Cassel was arguing with on the sidelines when he wanted to stay in the game?

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 01:03 PM
Haley going through 3 coordinators in 2 seasons is not a good thing.

DMAC
12-31-2010, 01:03 PM
WTF??

this is not good, it doesn't bode well for Haley's management skills. :cuss:

Why? Everything is so hush hush everywhere....you have no clue what's happening.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 01:04 PM
WTF??

this is not good, it doesn't bode well for Haley's management skills. :cuss:

I don't think it has anything to do with Haley's management skills.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 01:04 PM
Why? Everything is so hush hush everywhere....you have no clue what's happening.

Yeah but we can jump to conclusions and pretend :rolleyes:

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 01:04 PM
Weis just may not want to share the offense. He's only been around defensive HC's and had full reign of the offenses everywhere he's been.

Sure-Oz
12-31-2010, 01:04 PM
MrMichael_Smith

I can assure you Chiefs HC Todd Haley isn't the least bit disappointed over "losing" OC Charlie Weis to the University of Florida. half a minute ago via Plume

DMAC
12-31-2010, 01:05 PM
ROFL I love how this place blows up.

DeezNutz
12-31-2010, 01:05 PM
Haley going through 3 coordinators in 2 seasons is not a good thing.

3? We're counting firing himself?

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 01:05 PM
MrMichael_Smith

I can assure you Chiefs HC Todd Haley isn't the least bit disappointed over "losing" OC Charlie Weis to the University of Florida. half a minute ago via Plume

Maybe things are worse between Weis and Haley then it seemed to be in the past?

CaliforniaChief
12-31-2010, 01:05 PM
Haley going through 3 coordinators in 2 seasons is not a good thing.

http://www.willingborojfk69.com/JF_KENNEDY_HS_-_WILLINGBORO_CLASS_OF_69/NEWS/Entries/2009/9/3_REMEMBER_COACH_DICK_CURL_files/shapeimage_1.png

Shut up you stupid n00b.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 01:05 PM
MrMichael_Smith

I can assure you Chiefs HC Todd Haley isn't the least bit disappointed over "losing" OC Charlie Weis to the University of Florida. half a minute ago via Plume

Now that's a guy that's connected.

I really wonder if McDaniels has already been contacted.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 01:06 PM
MrMichael_Smith

I can assure you Chiefs HC Todd Haley isn't the least bit disappointed over "losing" OC Charlie Weis to the University of Florida. half a minute ago via Plume

Because Weis is replaceable. He's good. But he's not an elite OC. The best thing about Weis is that he helped mold Cassel.

Rams Fan
12-31-2010, 01:06 PM
3? We're counting firing himself?

No, I'm counting firing the DC before Crennel(Pendergast), but that has been a good result for the D.

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 01:06 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with Haley's management skills.

It has to. you dont leave a high profile job for a lower one for no reason.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 01:06 PM
Now that's a guy that's connected.

I really wonder if McDaniels has already been contacted.

I'm wondering the same thing.

DeezNutz
12-31-2010, 01:06 PM
Haley to Weis?

http://www.mikey-san.net/static/bucket/ari-gtfo.gif

RustShack
12-31-2010, 01:06 PM
I actually think Haley and McDouche are better matches. Both run the Weis offense, both like to run the offense a similar way play calling wise. Maybe thats the problem. Haley obviously loves takings risks, and that will fit McDaniels airing it out and a little trickery. I wouldn't be shocked at all if the problem between Weis and Haley is going for it on fourth and Weis wanting to run more and play more of a Herm style.

I think Weis helps our defense with his way, but I think our offense gets better with McDaniels.

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 01:06 PM
Why? Everything is so hush hush everywhere....you have no clue what's happening.

I don't think it has anything to do with Haley's management skills.
we are going through coordinators like gochief goes through cocks to suck.

hell yes, it's a problem

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 01:07 PM
No, I'm counting firing the DC before Crennel(Pendergast).

So he fired 2 shitty holdovers, and has the team in the playoffs in his 2nd year.

DMAC
12-31-2010, 01:07 PM
No, I'm counting firing the DC before Crennel(Pendergast), but that has been a good result for the D.

He had the chance to pick up Crennel and Weis. Got both. Bodes pretty well to me.

DeezNutz
12-31-2010, 01:07 PM
No, I'm counting firing the DC before Crennel(Pendergast), but that has been a good result for the D.

My bad. Thought we were only talking offense.

I'm not counting Penderwaste because that dude sucked fucking ass.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 01:07 PM
No, I'm counting firing the DC before Crennel(Pendergast), but that has been a good result for the D.

Pendergast was a fucking joke.

CaliforniaChief
12-31-2010, 01:07 PM
Maybe things are worse between Weis and Haley then it seemed to be in the past?

And yet in the middle of the discord, they were able to put this together.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/28/fullj.43df09f82fc5216262b8361ce2bcabcf/43df09f82fc5216262b8361ce2bcabcf-getty-98606168dv014_kansascity.jpg


Look familiar? Yeah. Shut up.

The Bad Guy
12-31-2010, 01:08 PM
we are going through coordinators like gochief goes through cocks to suck.

hell yes, it's a problem

He fired 2 that were completely one-dimensional shit bags here.

The Weis issue has to be a lot deeper than a personality conflict.

Detoxing
12-31-2010, 01:08 PM
MrMichael_Smith

I can assure you Chiefs HC Todd Haley isn't the least bit disappointed over "losing" OC Charlie Weis to the University of Florida. half a minute ago via Plume

Well, Haley screams at SOMEBODY in the headphones every game. Always figured it was Weis.

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 01:08 PM
I actually think Haley and McDouche are better matches. Both run the Weis offense, both like to run the offense a similar way play calling wise. Maybe thats the problem. Haley obviously loves takings risks, and that will fit McDaniels airing it out and a little trickery. I wouldn't be shocked at all if the problem between Weis and Haley is going for it on fourth and Weis wanting to run more and play more of a Herm style.

I think Weis helps our defense with his way, but I think our offense gets better with McDaniels.
our first year with Haley calling the plays would contradict your points.

Haley went all martyball when he was calling the plays ... run,run,run,punt

DeezNutz
12-31-2010, 01:09 PM
I don't think Gailey is a bad coordinator at all, actually. His style might not complement what Haley wants, but the dude is a legit NFL OC.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2010, 01:09 PM
God. This is going to give the retarded kc media all kinds of shit to talk about.

RustShack
12-31-2010, 01:09 PM
our first year with Haley calling the plays would contradict your points.

Haley went all martyball when he was calling the plays ... run,run,run,punt

Thats because we didn't have the tools to pass. He had to play with what Herm left him, minus our biggest passing threat Gonzalez.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-31-2010, 01:10 PM
getnickwright nick wright
If he does go, everyone who called me an asshole for reporting all year that Haley/Weis hate each other will apologize, right? Right?

DaWolf
12-31-2010, 01:10 PM
Now that's a guy that's connected.

I really wonder if McDaniels has already been contacted.

I really don't see Josh McDaniels as a fit. He's got just as big an ego as Weis, so any issues that happened with Haley/Weis are likely to happen between Haley/McDaniels. McDaniels is also a guy who ran off Cutler and Nolan, so combine that with Haley's personality and I don't see any way that works...

Mr. Laz
12-31-2010, 01:10 PM
Well, Haley screams at SOMEBODY in the headphones every game. Always figured it was Weis.considering how much our offense improved under Weis, maybe Haley should just shut the fuck up.