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petegz28
01-02-2011, 06:40 PM
Ravens:

Defense=8
Offense=22

O-Passing=20
O-Rushing=14

Chiefs:
Defense=11
Offense=12

O-Passing=28
O-Rushing=1



For those who are butthurt that we aren't playing the Jets:

Jets:

Offense=11
Defense=3


O-Passing=23
O-Rushing=3



So right off the bat from the base stats you have to say we got the weaker team in Baltimore.

Bwana
01-02-2011, 06:41 PM
Glad you started another thread about it! :thumb:

kstater
01-02-2011, 06:41 PM
Here's a stat:

Last time the Ravens played the Chiefs, Charles only averaged 2 ypc.

Pasta Giant Meatball
01-02-2011, 06:42 PM
Both teams would be tough matchups and a good test for this young team.

Count Alex's Losses
01-02-2011, 06:42 PM
Baltimore is a better team than the Jets.

They won more games against a more difficult schedule. They have a better quarterback and more top-flight talent on defense, and a better coaching staff.

There is no comparison.

LaChapelle
01-02-2011, 06:43 PM
Animals will learn to speak
so they can talk to Ray Ray about it

The Bad Guy
01-02-2011, 06:44 PM
Baltimore is a better team than the Jets.

They won more games against a more difficult schedule. They have a better quarterback and more top-flight talent on defense, and a better coaching staff.

There is no comparison.

They have a worse offensive line and a far worse secondary (sans Ed Reed).

2 areas the Chiefs have problems is having a corner to shut down Bowe (Namdi) and a physical offensive line.

Ravens offense is having problems.

They can be run on no doubt.

petegz28
01-02-2011, 06:45 PM
Surprising stats on defense:

Pass Defense:

Ravens=20
Chiefs=16
Jets=6

I would not have thought us to be ranked higher than the Ravens in Pass D.


Rush Defense:

Ravens=4
Chiefs=11
Jets=5

mcaj22
01-02-2011, 06:46 PM
all that experience, especially around playoff time.

Haloti Ngata, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed.

Tough sledding for sure. This will be the most talented roster on paper we have seen all season.

GloryDayz
01-02-2011, 06:46 PM
Animals will learn to speak
so they can talk to Ray Ray about it

Wow, your Avatar is stacked!!!!!! :thumb:

petegz28
01-02-2011, 06:50 PM
Offense-Points For:

Ravens=15
Chiefs=13
Jets=12

Defense-Points Allowed:

Ravens=3
Chiefs=13
Jets=7

petegz28
01-02-2011, 06:51 PM
Out of all the stats the Jets rank higher than the Ravens in more categories than not. Playing Baltimore may not be as bad as some are saying and playing the Jets might have been worse than some were saying

Count Alex's Losses
01-02-2011, 06:52 PM
Out of all the stats the Jets rank higher than the Ravens in more categories than not. Playing Baltimore may not be as bad as some are saying and playing the Jets might have been worse than some were saying

You are focusing too much on stats.

The Ravens won more games against a more difficult schedule.

They are unquestionably a better team than the Jets.

ChiefsandO'sfan
01-02-2011, 06:54 PM
You are focusing too much on stats.

The Ravens won more games against a more difficult schedule.

They are unquestionably a better team than the Jets.

LOL i live in maryland watch this team all year they could easy be 8-8

Count Alex's Losses
01-02-2011, 06:55 PM
LOL i live in maryland watch this team all year they could easy be 8-8

And the Chiefs could easily be 7-9.

Bowser
01-02-2011, 06:55 PM
Baltimore is a better team than the Jets.

They won more games against a more difficult schedule. They have a better quarterback and more top-flight talent on defense, and a better coaching staff.

There is no comparison.

Jesus fuck, come back in off the ledge before you fall and hurt somebody on the street.

petegz28
01-02-2011, 06:56 PM
Here's a stat:

Last time the Ravens played the Chiefs, Charles only averaged 2 ypc.

You mean when he carried the ball all of 4 times???

The Bad Guy
01-02-2011, 06:57 PM
Jesus ****, come back in off the ledge before you fall and hurt somebody on the street.

Let him jump. It's one less drain tax dollars will be paying for later on in life.

petegz28
01-02-2011, 06:58 PM
And the Chiefs could easily be 7-9.

Or 12-4

petegz28
01-02-2011, 07:02 PM
Here are the oh so tough teams GC keeps taunting that the Ravens faced..

Real tough teams

Jets= won by 1
Pit= won by 3
NE=lost by 3
ATL=lost by 5
Pit=lost by 3
No=won by6


Now the rest of their schdule you aren't supposed to see

Cin=LOST by 5
Cle=won
Den=won
Buf=won
Mia=won
Car=won
TB=won
Cle again=won
Cin again=won

So how I see it they faced teams with a losing record 7 games. And some with worse records than the worst team we faced.

Count Alex's Losses
01-02-2011, 07:06 PM
Beating Tampa Bay and beating Miami is more impressive than anything the Chiefs did this year. And so is beating New Orleans, Pittsburgh and the Jets, so you have no legs, Pete.

FringeNC
01-02-2011, 07:06 PM
Ravens average 5.1 yards per play on offense, and give up 5.1 yards per play on defense. Statistically, Jets are the better team and have a slightly higher strength of schedule.

I wanted to play the Jets, but after looking at the stats, I'm not so sure. Baltimore is a good team. A better team than us. Hardly dominant, though.

petegz28
01-02-2011, 07:09 PM
Beating Tampa Bay and beating Miami is more impressive than anything the Chiefs did this year. And so is beating New Orleans, Pittsburgh and the Jets, so you have no legs, Pete.

Playing Cinci and Cle 4 times was so hard for them too. Toss on Car, Den abd Buf and you have the hardest schedule in the NFL in your eyes, I am guessing?

dirk digler
01-02-2011, 07:09 PM
Honestly none of these stats matter and who each team played. All that matters is that we are in the playoffs and anything can happen especially when we play at home. I like our chances.

RustShack
01-02-2011, 07:09 PM
I seem to recall saying the Chiefs defense would finish #11 and Dane among many others let me have it. I told someone to mark it down but I'm sure whoever did wont come forward! But anyways, tell me how my ass tastes!

RustShack
01-02-2011, 07:10 PM
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=6989418&highlight=defense+finishes+11#post6989418

Thats one of the times I said it.. but I can't find the one where I got bashed big time :mad:

Count Alex's Losses
01-02-2011, 07:12 PM
Playing Cinci and Cle 4 times was so hard for them too. Toss on Car, Den abd Buf and you have the hardest schedule in the NFL in your eyes, I am guessing?

You're missing the point.

The Ravens played and beat several good teams this year. Without question, they had a harder schedule than the Jets.

And they won more games.

End of discussion.

petegz28
01-02-2011, 07:13 PM
Beating Tampa Bay and beating Miami is more impressive than anything the Chiefs did this year. And so is beating New Orleans, Pittsburgh and the Jets, so you have no legs, Pete.

And if you want to get down to it, the Jets played NEx2 and won 1, Min, GB, PIT (who they beat), Mia x 2and Chi.

The Jets had the harder schedule.

The Bad Guy
01-02-2011, 07:13 PM
You're missing the point.

The Ravens played and beat several good teams this year. Without question, they had a harder schedule than the Jets.

And they won more games.

End of discussion.

You're on par with KnowMo. End of discussion.

cardken
01-02-2011, 07:13 PM
What if Sports simulation over 10 games in the match up has Chiefs winning 7 of 3 games with average score 21- 17 Chiefs.
SCORING SUMMARY

1st Quarter
KAN 6:29 TD Jamaal Charles 15 yd. run (Succop kick) 0-7
2nd Quarter
BAL 12:45 TD Todd Heap 5 yd. pass from Flacco (Cundiff kick) 7-7
BAL 4:17 FG Billy Cundiff 41 yds. 10-7
BAL 1:16 TD Ray Rice 11 yd. run (Cundiff kick) 17-7
3rd Quarter
KAN 12:40 TD Thomas Jones 1 yd. run (Succop kick) 17-14
4th Quarter
KAN 14:20 TD Thomas Jones 8 yd. run (Succop kick) 17-21
INDIVIDUAL STATS
2010 Baltimore Ravens
RUSHING
Att Yds 20+ L TD
'10 Ray Rice 20 56 1 25 1
'10 Willis McGahee 11 40 0 17 0
'10 Jalen Parmele 4 25 0 17 0
'10 Joe Flacco 1 1 0 1 0
'10 Jason McKie 1 0 0 0 0

2010 Kansas City Chiefs
RUSHING
Att Yds 20+ L TD
'10 Jamaal Charles 14 93 1 63 1
'10 Thomas Jones 16 73 1 25 2
'10 Matt Cassel 4 11 0 11 0
'10 Jackie Battle 1 3 0 3 0
RECEIVING
Rec Yds 20+ 40+ L TD
'10 Anquan Boldin 4 67 1 0 32 0
'10 T.J. Houshmandzadeh 2 32 0 0 18 0
'10 Derrick Mason 3 31 0 0 19 0
'10 Ray Rice 3 29 0 0 17 0
'10 Todd Heap 2 22 0 0 17 1
'10 Ed Dickson 2 20 0 0 12 0

RECEIVING
Rec Yds 20+ 40+ L TD
'10 Dexter McCluster 4 47 1 0 24 0
'10 Tony Moeaki 2 12 0 0 6 0
'10 Chris Chambers 2 11 0 0 9 0
'10 Dwayne Bowe 1 7 0 0 7 0
'10 Thomas Jones 1 6 0 0 6 0
PASSING
Comp Att Yards TD INT
'10 Joe Flacco 16 28 201 1 1

PASSING
Comp Att Yards TD INT
'10 Matt Cassel 10 21 83 0 0

petegz28
01-02-2011, 07:13 PM
You're missing the point.

The Ravens played and beat several good teams this year. Without question, they had a harder schedule than the Jets.

And they won more games.

End of discussion.

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

FringeNC
01-02-2011, 07:14 PM
Baltimore is -2.5 (Exactly the line I predicted a few weeks ago).

So Baltimore is a favorite, but winning as a 2.5 point underdog barely even classifies as an upset. GoChiefs should drop some serious coin on Baltimore, given his outlook.

OldTownChief
01-02-2011, 07:16 PM
Being in Arrowhead is our only chance in hell but after today it just depends on who shows up to play.

Count Alex's Losses
01-02-2011, 07:17 PM
And if you want to get down to it, the Jets played NEx2 and won 1, Min, GB, PIT (who they beat), Mia x 2and Chi.

The Jets had the harder schedule.

*sigh*

Pete, I know you are a retard but please, please try to understand.

Games against teams with winning records:

Jets - 6
Ravens - 7

Wins against teams with winning records:

Jets - 2
Ravens - 4

Also, the Ravens beat the Jets.

WITHOUT QUESTION...they are a better football team.

petegz28
01-02-2011, 07:18 PM
*sigh*

Pete, I know you are a retard but please, please try to understand.

Games against teams with winning records:

Jets - 6
Ravens - 7

Wins against teams with winning records:

Jets - 2
Ravens - 4

Also, the Ravens beat the Jets.

WITHOUT QUESTION...they are a better football team.


And the Jets had a harder schedule, dumbass.

Count Alex's Losses
01-02-2011, 07:19 PM
And the Jets had a harder schedule, dumbass.

No, they didn't.

The played fewer games against teams with winning records.

And they had a losing record against teams with winning records.

Mr. Laz
01-02-2011, 07:22 PM
matchups are a big key ... Ravens are probably the better team but i think the Jets are a harder matchup for us.

1. Jets have a more physical Oline
2. Jets have more speed at WR
3. Jets have a better secondary

it's going to be tough but i think our defense will do better against the Ravens.

our offense?? who the hells knows ... if our Oline turns all pussy like today then it won't matter regardless of who we play.

keg in kc
01-02-2011, 07:23 PM
It's kind of a six of one/half dozen of the other question when you're comparing the Jets to Baltimore. They're both defensive teams that run the ball behind unproven quarterbacks, although I think Flacco is much more dangerous (to us) than Sanchez (who can be dangerous to the Jets).

Honestly half the reason I wanted the Jets is so that we could watch Cassel beat Sanchez. It would have been poetic. But Baltimore is who we got.

I think we'll actually win the game. Today was an aberration, and I think people are jumping off the boat too quickly, including the national media.

RustShack
01-02-2011, 07:29 PM
I like Hali and our defense against the Ravens OL more than I do the Jets. I like Bowe and our receivers against the Ravens DB's than I do the Jets, and I like Charles more against the Ravens old slow D than I do the Jets.

petegz28
01-02-2011, 07:31 PM
I like Hali and our defense against the Ravens OL more than I do the Jets. I like Bowe and our receivers against the Ravens DB's than I do the Jets, and I like Charles more against the Ravens old slow D than I do the Jets.

Ravens have allowed 40 sacks and 78 QB hits. Jets have only allowed 28

by the same token the Chiefs have 38 sacks and Ravens only 27

petegz28
01-02-2011, 07:34 PM
We have faced teams who are better at QB sacks than the Ravens. I think the passing game will be there.

Count Alex's Losses
01-02-2011, 07:37 PM
Ravens have allowed 40 sacks and 78 QB hits. Jets have only allowed 28

by the same token the Chiefs have 38 sacks and Ravens only 27

This is a good point, I just hope the Chiefs can get a lead to take advantage.

RedThat
01-02-2011, 07:39 PM
We have faced teams who are better at QB sacks than the Ravens. I think the passing game will be there.

What worries me though is our Oline.

I honestly think Brandon Albert is "soft". Richardson has been a revolving door lately.

And I hope they don't match up Wiegman power for power against Ngata. I'd much rather take my chances with Waters but I'd still consider that a mismatch.

*they're gonna have to find a way to gameplan around that physical DL the Ravens have.

petegz28
01-02-2011, 07:40 PM
This is a good point, I just hope the Chiefs can get a lead to take advantage.

Well, we have the #2 rusher in the league on our home field against an o-line that lets people get to the QB. I would guess a lot of that has to do with Flaco being a pocket passer. It would be nice though if Pioli sent the league some videos of the non-called holding penalties against Hali this week though.

petegz28
01-02-2011, 07:41 PM
What worries me though is our Oline.

I honestly think Brandon Albert is "soft". Richardson has been a revolving door lately.

And I hope they don't match up Wiegman power for power against Ngata. I'd much rather take my chances with Waters but I'd still consider that a mismatch.

*they're gonna have to find a way to gameplan around that physical DL the Ravens have.

We handled the Titans D which is no slouch. And we handled them pretty easily. So hopefully we won't see much of a problem.

Mr. Laz
01-02-2011, 07:57 PM
It would be nice though if Pioli sent the league some videos of the non-called holding penalties against Hali this week though.They've been holding him the same way all year so i wouldn't hold my breath on that one.