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wazu
01-02-2011, 06:22 PM
Time to go on record.

Captain Obvious
01-02-2011, 06:22 PM
The team that wins will be the team that scores the most points.

Boom!!! Tough actin' Tinactin.

JASONSAUTO
01-02-2011, 06:23 PM
Chiefs 27_24
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Marcellus
01-02-2011, 06:23 PM
I am voting Chiefs. No back to back shit games at Arrowhead.

KCrockaholic
01-02-2011, 06:24 PM
I'm pickin the Chiefs cause I'm a homer and I just want to win A playoff game cause I'm tired of waiting.

baitism
01-02-2011, 06:24 PM
17-6 Ravens

Chiefs driving in the 4th with the score 10-6 Ravens and Cassel throws a pick-6 to ice it.

unothadeal
01-02-2011, 06:25 PM
The Chiefs of course.

Bacon Cheeseburger
01-02-2011, 06:25 PM
After sitting through today's atrocity in person, this probably isn't the best time to expect a rational answer from me.

ArrowheadHawk
01-02-2011, 06:26 PM
If the Chiefs play like they can. Chiefs will win easily.

Count Zarth
01-02-2011, 06:27 PM
Smart money is on the Edgar Allan Poes.

keg in kc
01-02-2011, 06:27 PM
Today's a wake-up call. The game will end up as a replay of the way we beat them on MNF in 2004, with Ray Lewis in tears about how those big mean old guards were hitting him.

LaChapelle
01-02-2011, 06:30 PM
Who ever gets their snickers after their Abe Vigoda moment

CupidStunt
01-02-2011, 06:30 PM
Baltimore 26
KC 13

CoMoChief
01-02-2011, 06:32 PM
What makes people think BAL isn't going to do what OAK did today? BAL is a much better team. Momentum into the playoffs is HUGE. OAK came into Arrowhead (where no team has won yet this season) and physically pushed KC around ALL....GAME.....LONG. You wanna talk about a letdown game....this was it.

BAL 24 KC 13

Guru
01-02-2011, 06:34 PM
After sitting through today's atrocity in person, this probably isn't the best time to expect a rational answer from me.

nor me

ArrowheadHawk
01-02-2011, 06:35 PM
Thanks CoMo. We need the mojo.

kcpasco
01-02-2011, 06:36 PM
Zip your skirts up ladies

The Chiefs are winning this game

Extra Point
01-02-2011, 06:36 PM
17-6 Ravens

Chiefs driving in the 4th with the score 10-6 Ravens and Cassel throws a pick-6 to ice it.

May Brian Waters use you as a hand puppet. He will trap Ray Ray on his back.

Discuss Thrower
01-02-2011, 06:38 PM
May Brian Waters use you as a hand puppet. He will trap Ray Ray on his back.

Brian Waters has looked like he wants to be anywhere but KC all season, IMO.

grey redstar
01-02-2011, 06:38 PM
Gonna say Ravens just cause cause of homerism. That said...completely winnable game for you guys. The Cam Cameron magic trick of turning into a vagina in the second half of every game is gonna be working for you.

AllThingsKC
01-02-2011, 06:39 PM
Ravens. I have to pick the Ravens in this one because that way, if we do lose, I'll be better prepared for it.

But, wow, I'd loved to be back in this thread at this time next week and eat my words. That would be sweet!

Ravens 31, Chiefs 17

Chiefnj2
01-02-2011, 06:39 PM
Ravens have so much more experience. Still a successful year for the Chiefs.

pr_capone
01-02-2011, 06:42 PM
The homer is strong in this thread.

Chiefs had a good season... I would be thrilled with a win, especially since I'll be there. I just don't expect it.

notorious
01-02-2011, 06:44 PM
Gonna say Ravens just cause cause of homerism. That said...completely winnable game for you guys. The Cam Cameron magic trick of turning into a vagina in the second half of every game is gonna be working for you.

Please try to help us out with the impending troll invasion. We seem to really be drawing them out this year.


You have been a member of CP for years. Welcome back and good luck next week.

Extra Point
01-02-2011, 06:44 PM
KC 24
Balt 14

Marcellus
01-02-2011, 06:48 PM
It is hard to go on the road and win the PO's. Arrowhead is going to be at 90's level rocking decibels and Flacco hasn't shown well in the postseason.

I think we win and it's not that close. 27 -17. Mark it down.

grey redstar
01-02-2011, 07:06 PM
Please try to help us out with the impending troll invasion. We seem to really be drawing them out this year.


You have been a member of CP for years. Welcome back and good luck next week.

Thanks man! Followed the Chiefs for years after the Irsays stiffed us. I'm just a realist, this is 50/50 shot and thats a shame from my perspective. Even though they have a good record they're definitely not playing up to their potential..haven't done it all season; don't expect them to now.

Reerun_KC
01-02-2011, 07:07 PM
I'm pickin the Chiefs cause I'm a homer and I just want to win A playoff game cause I'm tired of waiting.

Same here!

Count Zarth
01-02-2011, 07:08 PM
Redstar, can you answer a few questions?

How do you think Haloti Ngata matches up with the Chiefs O-line?

What's up with Baltimore's pass rush?

And what scares you the most about the Chiefs?

Pablo
01-02-2011, 07:11 PM
I'm going to pick the Chiefs because being a homer is just more enjoyable.

That's why.

teedubya
01-02-2011, 07:16 PM
Ravens 31
Chiefs 13

Mr. Flopnuts
01-02-2011, 07:18 PM
I'll be there, so they'll win. Happens everytime.

Marcellus
01-02-2011, 07:19 PM
I'll be there, so they'll win. Happens everytime.

Fuck I better get tickets, I am 7-0.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-02-2011, 07:20 PM
Fuck I better get tickets, I am 7-0.

Do eet!

LoneWolf
01-02-2011, 07:22 PM
Smart money is on the Edgar Allan Poes.

I wish you would post nevermore, nevermore, nevermore.

grey redstar
01-02-2011, 07:28 PM
Redstar, can you answer a few questions?

How do you think Haloti Ngata matches up with the Chiefs O-line?

What's up with Baltimore's pass rush?

And what scares you the most about the Chiefs?

Ngata is an absolute beast! He regularly draws double teams and handles them. Since I have not seen a Chiefs game this year I can't say how he actually matches up. Depending on if they want to dress a dime back or have Dline support Cody could see a number of snaps. Hes a mountain but inexperienced, so is easy to victimize. But, the real key to getting through the D-line is Kelly Gregg, he has not been the same since microfracture surgery on his knee. Redding is just a warm body.

"Pass rush" is a strong term for what we have..its been dog shit all season. Sergio Kindle our second rounder cracked his friggin bean and he was being projected into the spot opposite Suggs...man that killed us. Suggs is the only bonified threat to get to Cassell.

I'll say this about what scares me...Ravens safeties. Whether its run support or coverage they are absolutely terrible! I'm talking Reed to. Reed has a neck problem and won't tackle anybody, while Landry is just challenged. I think he wears a plastic helmet off the field. The guy is constantly in the wrong position, and doesn't wrap up when he tackles. But your running game does give me nervous.

Count Zarth
01-02-2011, 07:29 PM
I wish you would post nevermore, nevermore, nevermore.

...rapping, rapping at my basement door....

JD10367
01-02-2011, 07:35 PM
I voted the Ravens only because of today's debacle, and Baltimore having more (and more recent) postseason experience. But I sincerely hope today was a wake-up call and I'm wrong, and the Chiefs wipe the floor with the Ravens, because I despise Baltimore, and I think a KC/NE matchup in week two of the playoffs would be fascinating for both the media and the fandom.

The God Hypothesis
01-02-2011, 07:56 PM
I dont know if we will win, I think we can win, I voted we will win, and after today its understandable to be skeptical. However, a heart of a champion is not exposed during the good times, but how they respond during times of adversity. Think Rocky...

http://www.dvdverdict.com/images/reviewpics/rocky4.jpg

CrazyPhuD
01-02-2011, 08:33 PM
Earlier in the season I would say we'd have a good shot. But lately the ravens D has really solidified. I'd be willing to bet they shut down the run game. The question is, do you believe that cassel could win the game own his own, without a running game? Let's assume he has decent protection(not the abortion that was today). But even then, if cassel has to win it own his own I don't think he can do it. He's played well in the 2nd half of the season but I'm not convinced he can win it own his own.

Success in this game depends upon the running game, it has to fire on all cylinders if it does then we can win it, if it doesn't then it seems highly doubtful to me.

Short Leash Hootie
01-02-2011, 08:36 PM
I'll wait until Thursday before I vote...

CaliforniaChief
01-02-2011, 08:44 PM
I am not going to piss away this week...a week I can enjoy what I've been waiting for for a very long time...by being a negative Nelly. I believe in this team. I really do.

I think Tamba Hali is going to resurrect the spirit of the great Derrick Thomas.

I think Matt Cassel will rebound. He has guts. Well, slightly less than before, but he's tough and he's ready.

Ultimately, I think we hold them off in the fourth quarter after a quick start.

Chiefs 24, Ravens 20

cardken
01-02-2011, 08:46 PM
who said Flacco isn't crap in the post season:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FlacJo00/gamelog/post/

Marcellus
01-02-2011, 08:48 PM
who said Flacco is crap in the post season:
oe Flacco Playoffs Game Log
Playoffs
Age is Years-Days Glossary SHARESHARE [X] CSV PRE LINK More Tools
Passing Rushing Scoring
Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD TD Pts
1 2008 17 2009-01-04 23-354 BAL @ MIA W 27-9 * 9 23 39.1% 135 0 0 59.1 5.87 5.87 5 8 1.60 1 1 6
2 2008 18 2009-01-10 23-360 BAL @ TEN W 13-10 * 11 22 50.0% 161 1 0 89.4 7.32 8.23 5 5 1.00 0 0 0
3 2008 19 2009-01-18 24-002 BAL @ PIT L 14-23 * 13 30 43.3% 141 0 3 18.2 4.70 0.20 2 -8 -4.00 0 0 0
Passing Rushing Scoring
Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD TD Pts
4 2009 17 2010-01-10 24-359 BAL @ NWE W 33-14 * 4 10 40.0% 34 0 1 10.0 3.40 -1.10 6 5 0.83 0 0 0
5 2009 18 2010-01-16 25-000 BAL @ IND L 3-20 * 20 35 57.1% 189 0 2 48.4 5.40 2.83 1 2 2.00 0 0 0
5 Games 57 120 47.5% 660 1 6 46.5 5.50 3.42 19 12 0.63 1 1 6

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/Flacco.jpg

Rain Man
01-02-2011, 08:51 PM
I am going to hunt down and utterly destroy every single person who voted against the Chiefs on this poll.

Except teedubya. He was the last one of that group who gave me rep, so I'll only partially destroy him.

Bacon Cheeseburger
01-02-2011, 08:54 PM
I am going to hunt down and utterly destroy every single person who voted against the Chiefs on this poll.

Except teedubya. He was the last one of that group who gave me rep, so I'll only partially destroy him.
Please re-read post #8 before you destroy me. And I'm pretty sure I just gave you rep yesterday.

Bowser
01-02-2011, 08:55 PM
Everybody loses

DaFace
01-02-2011, 08:55 PM
I think we're the underdogs, but hey, I can't vote against the Chiefs for a game like this. It's just not American.

RJ
01-02-2011, 08:59 PM
Chiefs and Ravens. My two favorite teams. The teams I live and die with avery Sunday.

The Chiefs are my first love but I don't see them beating the Ravens. The Ravens are too physical on D and run the ball too well. At the end of the day Suggs, Lewis and Reed will be too much for the Chiefs. And at the end of the day I will on the one hand be happy and on the other be sad, regardless of the final score.

beach tribe
01-02-2011, 09:02 PM
I am voting Chiefs. No back to back shit games at Arrowhead.

This.

beach tribe
01-02-2011, 09:05 PM
Today's a wake-up call. The game will end up as a replay of the way we beat them on MNF in 2004, with Ray Lewis in tears about how those big mean old guards were hitting him.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh90/bbeal29/thshieldsonraykz1ie5.gif

Pancake.

BigChiefFan
01-02-2011, 09:08 PM
Flacco at Arrowhead is a loss for the Ravens, IMO. I think he'll fold from the pressure.

DeezNutz
01-02-2011, 09:12 PM
31-21 Chiefs.

With lots of comments about "where was this team last week???".

WebGem
01-02-2011, 09:12 PM
I think the Chiefs are gonna jump out in front early in this game and somehow, someway, they will hold on. 20-13 KC and when Baltimore fails on their 4th down with not enough time left to avoid KC kneel downs, the whole ****ing stadium will go batshit crazy and I will probably cry.

Edit: And I hope it's a goal line stand. Well I say that now, but when Baltimore has 4th and 7 on the 35 I probably will want it to just end then.

pr_capone
01-02-2011, 09:13 PM
I think the Chiefs are gonna jump out in front early in this game and somehow, someway, they will hold on. 20-13 KC and when Baltimore fails on their 4th down with not enough time left to avoid KC kneel downs, the whole ****ing stadium will go batshit crazy and I will probably cry.

There is no probably about it. At least for me.

I'm a sensitive soul.

Count Zarth
01-02-2011, 09:37 PM
31-21 Chiefs.

With lots of comments about "where was this team last week???".

And then immediately a flood of "this won't cut it in New England" posts.

KC Jones
01-02-2011, 10:05 PM
I'm not terribly surprised by the way todays game turned out. I'd feel better about going up against the Jets but Baltimore is just too good of a football team for us. This team has improved a shitload, but we're just not there yet.

Captain Obvious
01-02-2011, 11:46 PM
I think the Chiefs are gonna jump out in front early in this game and somehow, someway, they will hold on. 20-13 KC and when Baltimore fails on their 4th down with not enough time left to avoid KC kneel downs, the whole ****ing stadium will go batshit crazy and I will probably cry.

Edit: And I hope it's a goal line stand. Well I say that now, but when Baltimore has 4th and 7 on the 35 I probably will want it to just end then.

Pretty much my exact thought of what I want to happen while I was reading this thread. When I think of the 4th down pass from MNF I still get goosebumps reliving that moment.

Chiefs Rool
01-03-2011, 12:18 AM
I don't think we can beat the ravens

Rain Man
01-03-2011, 12:32 AM
Please re-read post #8 before you destroy me. And I'm pretty sure I just gave you rep yesterday.

Temporary insanity is not a defense in the world of chiefsplanet. If it was, no one would ever be convicted.

Rams Fan
01-03-2011, 12:32 AM
America wins, that's who.

Captain Obvious
01-03-2011, 12:33 AM
Temporary insanity is not a defense in the world of chiefsplanet. If it was, no one would ever be convicted.

But being drunk is.

BossChief
01-03-2011, 12:46 AM
The way I see it...

Their running game versus our run defense...push. I think their OL is good, but so is our DL and our linebackers move quite well. Our secondary is damn god in run support as well. They may have a couple nice runs up the a gaps, but I think we keep everything else in check for the most part.

Their passing game versus our pass defense...advantage us. Seriously, I think we have had trouble with speedy receivers thus far, but have done well against possession guys like the Ravens have. I think that if we can find a way to get the lead in this one, we can hold the lead. Carr and Flowers should do well against Mason and Boldin IMO and I think Arenas has what it takes to keep their slot guy (stallworth) in check. DJ has the tools to take their tightends away from too much open space as well. If Hali is able to get consistent pressure we should be able to force Flacco into some errand throws that we can make a play on. We should have chances to be opportunistic against their passing game.

Our running game against their run defense...advantage Ravens. I hate typing this one out, but Casey Weigman isnt big enough to play against these guys. No matter who is across from him, he is gonna need help and that will likely dictate what plays we will be able to run against their front. Hopefully, after we try a few times to run up the gut to no avail, we will abandon ship on trying and focus on what we should be able to do to them. We need to run perimeter runs and try to get Jamaal to the sidelines as much as possible. We might as well deactivate Thomas Jones for this one. DMC should get a lot of carries in this game. If I was coordinating this game, I would have Jamaal slotted for 25 touches and DMC to get 15-20 more. We would have both on the field A LOT.

Our Passing game against their secondary...this one will likely swing one way or the other depending on if Ed Reed plays or not. If he is out, we have some spots we can take advantage of in the passing game and we should be able to take them out of their game by doing so. They really dont have anyone that can take Bowe out of the game in coverage and they may even have trouble covering Tucker. We should also try to get Charles and DMC in space out of the backfield as we could have some serious matchups against their linebackers in this area. A huge factor that will likely tell the tale here is how well our line protects Cassel and allows him to go through his reads. If Cassel has time, he can help us sustain drives. If Reed is out, I feel we have a slight advantage in this area and if Reed plays at 100%, they have the advantage.

Special teams...slight advantage goes to us, but its close. I think they have a slight advantage in place kicking, but that we have a distinct advantage in punters...the return game is pretty close, enough so that I would call it a push.

I see this one being a low scoring game that we have a good chance to win if we can find a way to put up points by any means necessary...maybe even on a return on special teams or defense. I think that if we score 17, we win this game.

googlegoogle
01-03-2011, 12:48 AM
how good are the raven corners?

yeah, thought so.

We are going to struggle running and that will be the game.

BossChief
01-03-2011, 12:49 AM
31-21 Chiefs.

With lots of comments about "where was this team last week???".

I dont think we can score 31 points on them unless we have a special teams score and a defensive score. Hopefully, I miss as badly as I did when we first traded for Cassel.

Count Zarth
01-03-2011, 12:58 AM
Their running game versus our run defense...push. I think their OL is good, but so is our DL and our linebackers move quite well. Our secondary is damn god in run support as well. They may have a couple nice runs up the a gaps, but I think we keep everything else in check for the most part.

Agree with this, in fact I think this favors KC because the Ravens have no deep threat. The Chiefs can cheat with their safeties all day. And, if you ask Ravens fans, they are thoroughly unimpressed with their line.

Their passing game versus our pass defense...advantage us. Seriously, I think we have had trouble with speedy receivers thus far, but have done well against possession guys like the Ravens have. I think that if we can find a way to get the lead in this one, we can hold the lead. Carr and Flowers should do well against Mason and Boldin IMO and I think Arenas has what it takes to keep their slot guy (stallworth) in check. DJ has the tools to take their tightends away from too much open space as well. If Hali is able to get consistent pressure we should be able to force Flacco into some errand throws that we can make a play on. We should have chances to be opportunistic against their passing game.

Agree completely with this. What I like more than anything is that, once again, they are NOT a good pass blocking OL. Ravens fans want Oher at RT. Given the fact that Flacco loves to hold the ball - and he has a REAL issue with this - I think Hali could absolutely feast in this game.

Our running game against their run defense...advantage Ravens. I hate typing this one out, but Casey Weigman isnt big enough to play against these guys. No matter who is across from him, he is gonna need help and that will likely dictate what plays we will be able to run against their front. Hopefully, after we try a few times to run up the gut to no avail, we will abandon ship on trying and focus on what we should be able to do to them. We need to run perimeter runs and try to get Jamaal to the sidelines as much as possible. We might as well deactivate Thomas Jones for this one. DMC should get a lot of carries in this game. If I was coordinating this game, I would have Jamaal slotted for 25 touches and DMC to get 15-20 more. We would have both on the field A LOT.

This is where I think we lose the game. You didn't even mention Kelly Gregg. Wiegmann and Lilja are gonna have to double team Gregg, which means Ngata is gonna be one on one with Waters the whole fucking game. Or you can double Ngata and pray Wiegmann can play the game of his life. Either way, someone is gonna be one-on-one and I don't like those matchups.

We also don't have a fullback, and against Ray Lewis...yeesh.

Our Passing game against their secondary...this one will likely swing one way or the other depending on if Ed Reed plays or not. If he is out, we have some spots we can take advantage of in the passing game and we should be able to take them out of their game by doing so. They really dont have anyone that can take Bowe out of the game in coverage and they may even have trouble covering Tucker. We should also try to get Charles and DMC in space out of the backfield as we could have some serious matchups against their linebackers in this area. If Reed is out, I feel we have a slight advantage in this area and if Reed plays at 100%, they have the advantage.

I don't really have a good read on this, but I do know the Ravens have had trouble generating a pass rush. I think they're going to bring fucktons of blitzes after watching this Raiders tape, so we better be ready.

I see this one being a low scoring game that we have a good chance to win if we can find a way to put up points by any means necessary...maybe even on a return on special teams or defense. I think that if we score 17, we win this game.

Agree with this. We need to come out throwing and back off their run support. They know we don't have a deep threat. I don't think a defense led by Ray Lewis is scared of the Chiefs one bit. So, we need Bowe and Moeaki to make them question just how much they can commit to the running game.

RRPP IS NOT WINNING THIS GAME.

Bowe and Cassel have to come out hot early and then the running game has to take advantage.

If we don't run the ball, our defense is gonna end up getting winded after what figures to be a good start, and then Ray Rice becomes a factor and....we've seen that story before.

jd1020
01-03-2011, 02:32 AM
I never thought this team was as good as everyone made them out to be. The Chiefs are 2-4 against teams .500+. Benefitted from an easy schedule this year and I cant point to one aspect of next weeks game against the Ravens and say "Thats where the Chiefs will win the game." Our best chance to win will be with the passing game but we have Cassel throwing those passes. Another 1 and done season, but stranger things have happened this year.

ChiefsFan4Life
01-03-2011, 04:39 AM
What makes people think BAL isn't going to do what OAK did today? BAL is a much better team. Momentum into the playoffs is HUGE. OAK came into Arrowhead (where no team has won yet this season) and physically pushed KC around ALL....GAME.....LONG. You wanna talk about a letdown game....this was it.

BAL 24 KC 13

Totally agree with this

spanky 52
01-03-2011, 04:41 AM
Sure I want the Chief's to win. And having the game here helps. But I don't think we're as good as a lot of us think we are. There's still a lot of work to do on this rebuild.

Mile High Mania
01-03-2011, 05:19 AM
Ravens are a nasty draw for KC...

Baltimore is a hell of a team - tremendous playmakers at all skill positions on both sides of the ball. I think you guys and the team should be proud of the 10 wins, but the playoff losing streak will not end this week.

Stryker
01-03-2011, 06:27 AM
As much as I hate to say it, after yesterdays display, Ravens will stomp the shit out of KC. AGAIN, we are one and done.

JD10367
01-03-2011, 07:14 AM
Chiefs and Ravens. My two favorite teams. The teams I live and die with avery Sunday.

The Chiefs are my first love but I don't see them beating the Ravens. The Ravens are too physical on D and run the ball too well. At the end of the day Suggs, Lewis and Reed will be too much for the Chiefs. And at the end of the day I will on the one hand be happy and on the other be sad, regardless of the final score.

Well said. If the Chiefs win, I can cut-and-paste this and make minor edits. :o)

Chiefnj2
01-03-2011, 07:19 AM
For the Chiefs to have much of a chance, I'd say special teams would have to come up strong and put some unexpected points on the board.

RNR
01-03-2011, 07:20 AM
Ravens are a nasty draw for KC...

Baltimore is a hell of a team - tremendous playmakers at all skill positions on both sides of the ball. I think you guys and the team should be proud of the 10 wins, but the playoff losing streak will not end this week.

There really is no "good draw" in the AFC. I do think the Jets would be a better match up for KC~

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-03-2011, 07:21 AM
This will be the second team we've played all year that even hit 10 wins, and the Ravens hit 12.

I figure they'll run right up the gut and at our LDE all day.

Over-Head
01-03-2011, 07:31 AM
Why Ravens of cource....:evil:

In all seriousness though, if an "underdog team" like the one Plunkett led through the wild card to a SB win can do it, so can the Chiefs.
You've got the tools, and the QB when he's on
If nothing else, kill the Pats PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Besides i'd rather be happy for a bunch of peole who's board I vist than some ignorant fuggen troll bastard who will show up AFTER the Good bad and ugly are over.

grey redstar
01-03-2011, 07:51 AM
The way I see it...
I just want to say up front I think the Ravens have the personnel to make the game a nightmare for you, but the gutless, brainless coordinators have as big a chance as ever to call bad plays and run the wrong schemes...

Their running game versus our run defense...push. I think their OL is good, but so is our DL and our linebackers move quite well. Our secondary is damn god in run support as well. They may have a couple nice runs up the a gaps, but I think we keep everything else in check for the most part.

Our Oline is suspect. Without Jared Gaither both the run game and pass protection has deteriorated. Especially if they play Oneil Cousins...the guy has the worst technique I have ever seen, he looks like a windmill out there.

Their passing game versus our pass defense...advantage us. Seriously, I think we have had trouble with speedy receivers thus far, but have done well against possession guys like the Ravens have. I think that if we can find a way to get the lead in this one, we can hold the lead. Carr and Flowers should do well against Mason and Boldin IMO and I think Arenas has what it takes to keep their slot guy (stallworth) in check. DJ has the tools to take their tightends away from too much open space as well. If Hali is able to get consistent pressure we should be able to force Flacco into some errand throws that we can make a play on. We should have chances to be opportunistic against their passing game.

If you see a lot of Stallworth you're in trouble, but Cam-maroon hasn't figured out he is one of our best weapons yet.

Our running game against their run defense...advantage Ravens. I hate typing this one out, but Casey Weigman isnt big enough to play against these guys. No matter who is across from him, he is gonna need help and that will likely dictate what plays we will be able to run against their front. Hopefully, after we try a few times to run up the gut to no avail, we will abandon ship on trying and focus on what we should be able to do to them. We need to run perimeter runs and try to get Jamaal to the sidelines as much as possible. We might as well deactivate Thomas Jones for this one. DMC should get a lot of carries in this game. If I was coordinating this game, I would have Jamaal slotted for 25 touches and DMC to get 15-20 more. We would have both on the field A LOT.

We can stop the running game if...and that is if Mattison pulls his head out of his ass and dresses the right amount of Dline guys to rotate ian and out.

Our Passing game against their secondary...this one will likely swing one way or the other depending on if Ed Reed plays or not. If he is out, we have some spots we can take advantage of in the passing game and we should be able to take them out of their game by doing so. They really dont have anyone that can take Bowe out of the game in coverage and they may even have trouble covering Tucker. We should also try to get Charles and DMC in space out of the backfield as we could have some serious matchups against their linebackers in this area. A huge factor that will likely tell the tale here is how well our line protects Cassel and allows him to go through his reads. If Cassel has time, he can help us sustain drives. If Reed is out, I feel we have a slight advantage in this area and if Reed plays at 100%, they have the advantage.

Reed pisses me off more than any other Raven. He can do spectacular things, but he is high risk-high reward. Since he is constantly looking to jump a route he will leave a cornerback stranded and not think anything about it. But, our corners are solid. Wilson has done a good job, and Webb has really come a long way in his second season.

Special teams...slight advantage goes to us, but its close. I think they have a slight advantage in place kicking, but that we have a distinct advantage in punters...the return game is pretty close, enough so that I would call it a push.

We have Sam Koch as the punter and he is fantastic. Don't know how he missed the Pro bowl. Special teams definitely allows us to play the field position game.

I see this one being a low scoring game that we have a good chance to win if we can find a way to put up points by any means necessary...maybe even on a return on special teams or defense. I think that if we score 17, we win this game.

You can win this game, but it all depends on the Ravens game plan. If its shit...congartulations...if they hatch a good plan and use their people correctly...thanks for playing our game and take your consolation prize.

Guru
01-03-2011, 07:54 AM
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh90/bbeal29/thshieldsonraykz1ie5.gif

Pancake.

They was double teamin me all night long coach.

Guru
01-03-2011, 07:56 AM
Temporary insanity is not a defense in the world of chiefsplanet. If it was, no one would ever be convicted.
what about temporary normality. That is rare on the planet.

SNR
01-03-2011, 08:04 AM
The game is at KC, btw. It should be Ravens vs. Chiefs

Bearcat
01-03-2011, 08:16 AM
This will be the second team we've played all year that even hit 10 wins, and the Ravens hit 12.

I figure they'll run right up the gut and at our LDE all day.

And their 3 losses since September have been @NE in OT, @Atlanta by 5, and vs Pittsburgh (who they split) by 3... and they beat the Jets, Saints, and Bucs. The stats don't look great on paper and just looking at their schedule, they don't exactly put away teams, but it's a pretty impressive 12-4.

I haven't watched them much, and it doesn't seem like a terrible matchup from what I've read. I have a feeling the score will be pretty close... probably closer than it should be... kind of like the first 2.5 quarters of yesterday's game, I guess, except they might not get that one big play.

thurman merman
01-03-2011, 11:28 AM
CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Raiderhater58
01-03-2011, 11:40 AM
Sunday was a wake up call, maybe the best thing that could have happened to this team. we beat Ravens 17-9.

Charles 123yds 2 TDs

CupidStunt
01-03-2011, 11:48 AM
Do you know what sucks?

I honestly think if the Chiefs gave Charles 25 carries, the Chiefs would win. But this staff is so fucking insistent on getting 1-yard carries from Thomas Jones that I doubt Charles will top 15 carries. I think Jones being on the team at this point is a MAJOR negative for the Chiefs, not only in his garbage production but in how many goddamn carries the staff insists on giving him.

gblowfish
01-03-2011, 11:50 AM
Smart money is on the Edgar Allan Poes.

Unfortunately, I think (with my head) that Go Chiefs is right. KC hasn't won a playoff game in 17 years.

With my heart, I'm all in, baby. But if I had to bet the house, I'd say Ravens as they are the veteran team and have a better record and more playoff experience.

But any given Sunday....

KChiefs1
01-03-2011, 11:59 AM
I've put off posting/voting on this for awhile because I wanted to post with my head not my heart since this is a public poll & we all know how that can used against you here so here it is...

At the beginning of the season I picked Baltimore vs Green Bay as my Super Bowl picks. I've thought all year that the Ravens could beat the Pats when they faced off in the playoffs this year eventhough everyone was all over Brady's boys.

I think that the Chiefs will play lights out vs the Ravens on Sunday but in the end it won't be enough. I expect to see a great game with a very close ending but ultimately I think the Ravens experience in this kinda game will be the turning factor. Ravens will win in the best game of the weekend.

MahiMike
01-03-2011, 12:25 PM
Maybe it was a good thing Weis announced his Sabanistic tendencies last week instead of this week. It's over and behind us now. The motivation to play the following week in Boston will be extremely inspiring for the entire organization. Scott Egoli personally energizes the team, Arrowhead passes out free ear plugs and rally towels and the Chiefs go on to win their 1st playoff game since half our kids were born!

Chiefs 27 Ravens 20

kcgreene
01-03-2011, 12:41 PM
It depends on which team shows up to play, the Chiefs that played the Titans, or the Chiefs that played the Raiders... and I dont expect to crap games in a row.

Chiefs 27-17

Carlota69
01-03-2011, 12:59 PM
The Chiefs have only been out of a game 3 times this year (DEN, SD and OAK), outside of those games we have had a chance to win all of the other 13 games. Plus, we seem to come back strong after a brutal, ugly and embarassing loss, and whip a little ass.

I think we win--28-21:thumb:

Iowanian
01-03-2011, 01:47 PM
The Chiefs are going to win by so much they team charter bus will be repainted "the baltimore Rapens" by halftime.

I'm going to play the kazoo so loud from 14 rows off the field that Flacco will ask Ray Lewis to have him murdered.

Norman Einstein
01-03-2011, 01:50 PM
I'm a homer.

Chiefs 35-7.

KILLER_CLOWN
01-03-2011, 02:09 PM
Yesterday i would have said the birds, but today after a good nights rest i'll go with the Chiefs 24-10. No real reason but want to.

ChiTown
01-03-2011, 02:19 PM
If I hadn't seen with my own two eyes what fucking bitches we looked like on Sunday against the Raiders, I probably would have taken the Chiefs. That said, I sat there frozen, in my seat, watching us get raped by a 7-8 team playing for nothing. Our O folded, and the D was slapped around. Weiss is a cunt - I hope that phat phuck dies of labiatic cancer.

I feel better now.......

KILLER_CLOWN
01-03-2011, 02:21 PM
If I hadn't seen with my own two eyes what ****ing bitches we looked like on Sunday against the Raiders, I probably would have taken the Chiefs. That said, I sat there frozen, in my seat, watching us get raped by a 7-8 team playing for nothing. Our O folded, and the D was slapped around. Weiss is a **** - I hope that phat phuck dies of labiatic cancer.

I feel better now.......

Ya it does bother me that as soon as Cassel got body slammed on a vicious late hit the team responded by crawling into the corner and sucking their thumbs but next week will be different.

TEX
01-03-2011, 03:16 PM
Ravens - 24

Chiefs - 13

I think the Ravens are going to be able to run the ball all over us and stuff our running game. But on any given Sunday, anything can happen, so we do have a chance...

warrior
01-03-2011, 03:28 PM
The Ravens are road kill----Chiefs 27 Ravens 13 :thumb:

Chiefs Pantalones
01-03-2011, 03:29 PM
Chiefs 35

Ravens 17

We're here to fuck shit up.

warrior
01-03-2011, 03:30 PM
What makes people think BAL isn't going to do what OAK did today? BAL is a much better team. Momentum into the playoffs is HUGE. OAK came into Arrowhead (where no team has won yet this season) and physically pushed KC around ALL....GAME.....LONG. You wanna talk about a letdown game....this was it.

BAL 24 KC 13



Here it is ----the kiss of death to bad Ravens

BossChief
01-03-2011, 05:13 PM
You can win this game, but it all depends on the Ravens game plan. If its shit...congartulations...if they hatch a good plan and use their people correctly...thanks for playing our game and take your consolation prize.
This is what gives me hope. We have a real chance for our coaches to put on a real rape job.

I am in total hope that we come out with DMC and Charles both in the backfield and Tucker, Bowe and Moeaki all on the field and run some scripted no huddle to start the game and catch them off guard. We need to score early.

We need to come out with a alot of stuff that they arent prepared for because of not seeing it on tape throughout the year. Your defense is one of the most well prepared that I have seen and we need to get them on their heels if we are to have a chance.


They was double teamin me all night long coach.

ITS NOT POSSIBLE, ITS JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

Chief Henry
01-03-2011, 05:25 PM
My heart says KC....thats how I voted.

My brain says Baltimore 16-13

Chief Henry
01-03-2011, 05:25 PM
Chiefs 35

Ravens 17

We're here to **** shit up.

:thumb:

scott free
01-03-2011, 07:05 PM
While the ravens front seven against this O-line scares me to death, i'll put my money where my heart is & say, Go Chiefs... on any given sunday, any outcome is possible.

The Bad Guy made some nice points in his positive mojo thread, its not like we're playing the 85 Bears or Super Bowl era ravens... their secondary is exploitable & the O is still average despite the Boldin acquisition. They've struggled with Buffalo & Cincy... why shouldnt we have a shot, especially at Arrowhead?

Regardless of outcome, i'll go into next year with 100% confidence that the good times are just getting started.

AllThingsKC
01-03-2011, 07:26 PM
What makes people think BAL isn't going to do what OAK did today? BAL is a much better team. Momentum into the playoffs is HUGE. OAK came into Arrowhead (where no team has won yet this season) and physically pushed KC around ALL....GAME.....LONG. You wanna talk about a letdown game....this was it.

BAL 24 KC 13

ALL GAME LONG? The game was tied at 10 midway in the 3rd Qtr. That's hardly "ALL GAME LONG."

And the Ravens barely beat Cincinnati. Cincinnati screwed up a 4th down play to lose the game in the last seconds. That's not good, that's "luck." They only beat the Bengals by 6 points at home. Impressive! Same thing with Colts/Titans. Colts didn't win because they're good, they won because of luck.

Don't get me wrong, they did get the win and that helps them. And, for all I know the game could be 35-3 Baltimore. But I have a hard time seeing anything but a close game.

RJ
01-03-2011, 07:59 PM
The Chiefs could win if the Ravens D fails to show up and the game turns into a shootout. The Bills and Texans both came close to beating them in high scoring games. I think the last thing the Chiefs want is a low scoring slugfest.

RJ
01-03-2011, 08:01 PM
ALL GAME LONG? The game was tied at 10 midway in the 3rd Qtr. That's hardly "ALL GAME LONG."

And the Ravens barely beat Cincinnati. Cincinnati screwed up a 4th down play to lose the game in the last seconds. That's not good, that's "luck." They only beat the Bengals by 6 points at home. Impressive! Same thing with Colts/Titans. Colts didn't win because they're good, they won because of luck.

Don't get me wrong, they did get the win and that helps them. And, for all I know the game could be 35-3 Baltimore. But I have a hard time seeing anything but a close game.


The Bengals almost always play well against the ravens. I think it's a Marvin Lewis thing.

WebGem
01-06-2011, 07:20 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/picks

The ESPN "Expert" picks are in. 3 for the good guys, 5 for the bad guys, and AccuScore/SportsNation also with the bad guys. Don't worry though, we got this.

Spott
01-06-2011, 07:34 PM
24-7 Ravens.

Ugly Duck
01-06-2011, 07:39 PM
Chiefs the Surprise Team?

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Ugly Duck
01-06-2011, 07:48 PM
OAK physically pushed KC around ALL GAME LONG?

Dude... KC had a total of 74 yards at halftime. The only reason the Chiefs had 3 points was the Raider fumble DEEP in the red zone. You. Got. Worked.

WebGem
01-06-2011, 07:49 PM
Chiefs the Surprise Team?

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Can't wait til all these mother fuckers are wrong. It's gonna be too awesome.

WebGem
01-06-2011, 07:50 PM
Dude... KC had a total of 74 yards at halftime. The only reason the Chiefs had 3 points was the Raider fumble DEEP in the red zone. You. Got. Worked.

Yeah and the Raiders went 8-8 and got their ass handed to them a fair share of times. The Chiefs are better than the Raiders, sorry homie.

KCChiefsFan88
01-06-2011, 07:52 PM
Chiefs 23 Ravens 17

Chiefs hold a slight 16-10 lead heading into the 4th, with mostly FG ending drives. The Ravens strike with a TD going up 17-16 and then Cassel orchestrates a final drive, giving the Chiefs the game winning TD... a TD strike to Chris Chambers (images of Joe Montana to Tim Barnett vs Pittsburgh in the '93 Wild Card Game).

J Diddy
01-06-2011, 07:52 PM
Yeah and the Raiders went 8-8 and got their ass handed to them a fair share of times. The Chiefs are better than the Raiders, sorry homie.

Perhaps the Chiefs are the better team. The raiders sure had the matchups both times though.

Ugly Duck
01-06-2011, 07:57 PM
The Chiefs are better than the Raiders

Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

Lbedrock1
01-06-2011, 07:59 PM
According to madden nfl 2011 on the x-box the score will be 28-0 Chiefs. J. Charles rushed for 111 yards and it was the tight end that was key. Barry got a INT and the D came up big. D. Johnson got a INT for a TD late in the
4th Quarter. I think it will be pretty accurate + or - 7 points.

J Diddy
01-06-2011, 08:02 PM
Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

I bet the whole team will be over at Cable's house sunday at noon reminiscing.

keg in kc
01-06-2011, 08:06 PM
Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.Everybody seems to forget, but the Chiefs worked themselves in that first game. What was it, 10-0 KC at halftime? And probably should've been much worse. Then it was back-and-forth in the second half. Hell, we even won the toss in overtime and still couldn't win the game. Handed it to you on a silver platter.

That was one of the two major moments of late game suck that we had this year, the other being Houston, where we gave up a ten point lead in the last ten minutes of the game.

AllThingsKC
01-06-2011, 08:09 PM
Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.


I'm not saying that the Chiefs didn't get worked over by Oakland. I just don't think they got worked over until midway in the 3 Qtr, and which point, the Chiefs seemed say, "F it, let's get ready for next week."

You mentioned the Chiefs had 74 yards at halftime. So what? What was the halftime score? 10-3 Oakland. That's hardly "getting worked over." Were the Chiefs "getting worked over" when they tied the game at 10? Not if you looked at the score at that time.

WebGem
01-06-2011, 08:11 PM
Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

If Dwayne Bowe caught a pass that was right in his hands Oakland would have lost to the Chiefs on their home field. Did the Raiders physically beat the Chiefs that day? Yeah. But when your team is in a position where if an NFL WR catches a pass you lose the game, you did something wrong, or your team just isn't as good as the other team. And yes I know Bowe has a lot of drops and it's an "if", but it's not a very big "if" at all - he catches that particular pass probably 75-80% of the time.

The game in KC didn't matter all that much for KC, and I really think that if the playoffs were on the line the game would have been a lot different. Do I have any evidence to support that? No, except when you look at history in this league teams perform far better when they NEED to win. By no means did the Chiefs need that game. Also compare what I just said to your quote above, that's a pretty big problem if you can't win the games you really need.

I've defended Oakland in arguments this year with other non AFC West fans, I thought they were headed in the right direction until what Al Davis did couple days ago. In a sick sort of way I liked it, because having KC/OAK on top of the west fighting for division titles for 5 years would be fun as hell. But when rival teams are in the playoffs I don't go posting shit on their board and act like its a moral victory (nor do I think it is) when they lose in the playoffs. I talk about it on my own teams board, or I just sit in my room and watch them lose AFC title games to Shittsburgh or get fucked in the ass by the Bucs in the Super Bowl and laugh by myself.

You're not even one of the Raiders fan that usually gets on my nerves, and I guess you're really not here either. I also know you're a respected Raiders fan here on CP, and you're also sort of right in what you're saying, I didn't read the entire thread. But what is the point of saying we got worked by Oakland? Are you claiming Oakland exposed how to get to Cassel and completely fuck him up and they ruined any chance KC had vs Baltimore by doing so? Because I really don't think that's the case. I really believe the fact KC just didn't need the game all that bad had something to do with the Week 17 game, and the first game really wasn't anywhere near as bad.

rpcfball
01-06-2011, 08:50 PM
hey all, ravens fan here. this is the way i see it

for all of you praying for a fast chief's start: don't count on it, and dont be discouraged when you dont get it. the ravens start fast but have no killer instinct whatsoever, specifically cam cameron and the offense. grey redstar is dead on in that aspect

they have had 10 point leads over new england and buffalo in the 4th quarter and blew both of those. we had a 28-7 lead against houston and, if not for a big pick-6 in overtime, the texans have another 85+ yard drive to win the game. against tampa and cincy we had two touchdown leads and they had the ball to win or tie the game at the end but couldnt. and we sat on the ball the entire 2nd half against the steelers

we let teams hangaround and have not put teams away all season. in the games afforementioned we have been outscored in the 4th quarter 59-3 so if the chiefs are down by two touchdowns in the 4th (which i expect them to be) dont count them out

dont get me wrong, the ravens are a very talented team but i expect this game to be very close. hopefully the chiefs comeback falls just short
BAL 24
KC 20

good luck and congrats on a great season. GO RAVENS!!!

WebGem
01-06-2011, 08:53 PM
hey all, ravens fan here. this is the way i see it

for all of you praying for a fast chief's start: don't count on it, and dont be discouraged when you dont get it. the ravens start fast but have no killer instinct whatsoever, specifically cam cameron and the offense. grey redstar is dead on in that aspect

they have had 10 point leads over new england and buffalo in the 4th quarter and blew both of those. we had a 28-7 lead against houston and, if not for a big pick-6 in overtime, the texans have another 85+ yard drive to win the game. against tampa and cincy we had two touchdown leads and they had the ball to win or tie the game at the end but couldnt. and we sat on the ball the entire 2nd half against the steelers

we let teams hangaround and have not put teams away all season. in the games afforementioned we have been outscored in the 4th quarter 59-3 so if the chiefs are down by two touchdowns in the 4th (which i expect them to be) dont count them out

dont get me wrong, the ravens are a very talented team but i expect this game to be very close. hopefully the chiefs comeback falls just short
BAL 24
KC 20

good luck and congrats on a great season. GO RAVENS!!!

The Chiefs are not a team that's built to play from behind. If they get that far behind, the game's pretty much over. I think you're underestimating the power of home field for KC. The Ravens will more than likely not score 24 pts in the game. They will also more than likely lose the game. But yeah, good luck to you too.

rpcfball
01-06-2011, 08:59 PM
The Chiefs are not a team that's built to play from behind. If they get that far behind, the game's pretty much over. I think you're underestimating the power of home field for KC. The Ravens will more than likely not score 24 pts in the game. They will also more than likely lose the game. But yeah, good luck to you too.

the ravens dont really get fazed on the road. they played atlanta down to the last minute and they're homefield strength is well documented. and while it should be close, lets be honest, the ravens are more likely to win the game

WebGem
01-06-2011, 09:01 PM
the ravens dont really get fazed on the road. they played atlanta down to the last minute and they're homefield strength is well documented. and while it should be close, lets be honest, the ravens are more likely to win the game

Go watch all 8 Chiefs home games. Then go watch their 8 road games. Then come back and tell me there's another team in the league that plays so much differently at home than on the road. There's not one. I don't care what the Ravens do on the road, they're at Arrowhead now. And no, I really honestly believe that the Chiefs will more than likely win the game.

Fritz88
01-06-2011, 09:02 PM
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AllThingsKC
01-06-2011, 09:04 PM
Arrowhead's home field advantage won't do much to the Ravens. They have already played in tough places this season, and this is their 4th straight year in the playoffs. They are used to crowd noise. Sadly, Arrowhead's playoff noise has not been a factor in 17 years. It would be sweet if that changes on Sunday, but the Ravens are used to crowd noise. So, my guess is that the crowd noise as little effect on them.

That's not going to stop me from screaming my head off, though.

jettio
01-06-2011, 09:07 PM
the ravens dont really get fazed on the road. they played atlanta down to the last minute and they're homefield strength is well documented. and while it should be close, lets be honest, the ravens are more likely to win the game

The Ravens are big, tough and experienced.

The Chiefs have speed that the Ravens will not be able to match.

After the game, the big takeaway from this game will be that the Chiefs won the game because of speed on defense and speedy playmakers on offense and special teams.

WebGem
01-06-2011, 09:10 PM
Go watch all 8 Chiefs home games. Then go watch their 8 road games. Then come back and tell me there's another team in the league that plays so much differently at home than on the road. There's not one. I don't care what the Ravens do on the road, they're at Arrowhead now. And no, I really honestly believe that the Chiefs will more than likely win the game.

Actually I'll break it down a bit for you. Here's the 8 home games:

Week 1: SD scored 14 pts

Week 3: SF scored 10 pts, it was 31-3 with 5 seconds left in the game and they got their first TD as time expired

Week 7: Jax played well first half and got to our D 21-20 half time, 2nd half: shutout, 41-20 Chiefs final

Week 8: Buffalo scored 10 pts in 75 minutes (SEVENTY FIVE MINUTES - 1 WEEK AFTER THEY HAD 500 YARDS ON YOU GUYS)

Week 11: Arizona scored 13 pts, it was 31-6 with 1 second left, another first TD as time expires

Week 13: Denver doesn't score a TD, 10-6 Chiefs final

Week 16: 34-14 Chiefs, Tennessee really never got much going on offense

Week 17: Raiders scored 31 but a large chunk of that off of Cassel INTs, and I don't care what anyone says, the game really didn't matter and that does make a difference in this league

Bottom line: Our defense ****ing kicks ass at home, and your offense is not enough to make anyone think it's gonna make any difference. Even in the games where KC struggled on offense (Denver, BUF) the defense held on for dear life and won the game for us. This game matters more than any of those games, and this teams heart and attitude hasn't been questioned all year. If you think this is a freebie or that you're "definitely gonna come in and get up by 2 TDs and hopefully hold on" you might want to go look at yourself in the mirror and say LOL. Because that's not gonna happen.

You can say "Well our defense is way better than those teams you mentioned". First of all, no it's really not all that much better. Secondly, the Chiefs only scored 10 pts through 60 minutes of two of those games, so regardless of how the other defense played the Chiefs still didn't score pts. But they won both times. So get ready, because it's not gonna be easy.

Oh, and that one game that I said didn't matter: that was the only one we lost. So good luck homie.

CosmicPal
01-06-2011, 09:15 PM
On paper, the Ravens would beat us nearly every time. They are a fundamentally sound and tough team. Therefore, I believe they will win a close contest.

However, the Chiefs do have something going for them: A very sound and respected coaching staff. If they game plan this contest correctly and get their players to perform, get a lead early, extend that lead, get the crowd behind them, then the Chiefs can win.

I know teams and players don't like to read into the media, but I sure hope the staff and players are hearing the fact that nobody believes they will win and that they don't deserve to be in the playoffs- because this is precisely the sort of thing that will inspire and elevate a team to win at will.

On paper, I just don't see it happening. Ravens 17, Chiefs 10

It pains me to say it, but I just don't see the Chiefs winning this game. Should they win this game- WATCH OUT! Because they will have earned their stripes and really can be the dangerous team that others take for granted.

Gawd, I'd love to see them win this game...more than anything. I just don't have the confidence that they will. :(

notorious
01-06-2011, 09:20 PM
The Patriot way was custom built to make all of the media haters eat a big shit-burger.


This Chiefs team is similar to the first Pats championship team. Our offense is better and their defense was better. Neither team turns/turned the ball over very much.

rpcfball
01-06-2011, 09:29 PM
Go watch all 8 Chiefs home games. Then go watch their 8 road games. Then come back and tell me there's another team in the league that plays so much differently at home than on the road. There's not one. I don't care what the Ravens do on the road, they're at Arrowhead now. And no, I really honestly believe that the Chiefs will more than likely win the game.

well, most people would argue otherwise. dont get me wrong, i would not be surprised at all if the chiefs won. but lets get real, you've played 1 team at home with a winning record this year.

rpcfball
01-06-2011, 09:34 PM
Actually I'll break it down a bit for you. Here's the 8 home games:

Week 1: SD scored 14 pts

Week 3: SF scored 10 pts, it was 31-3 with 5 seconds left in the game and they got their first TD as time expired

Week 7: Jax played well first half and got to our D 21-20 half time, 2nd half: shutout, 41-20 Chiefs final

Week 8: Buffalo scored 10 pts in 75 minutes (SEVENTY FIVE MINUTES - 1 WEEK AFTER THEY HAD 500 YARDS ON YOU GUYS)

Week 11: Arizona scored 13 pts, it was 31-6 with 1 second left, another first TD as time expires

Week 13: Denver doesn't score a TD, 10-6 Chiefs final

Week 16: 34-14 Chiefs, Tennessee really never got much going on offense

Week 17: Raiders scored 31 but a large chunk of that off of Cassel INTs, and I don't care what anyone says, the game really didn't matter and that does make a difference in this league

Bottom line: Our defense ****ing kicks ass at home, and your offense is not enough to make anyone think it's gonna make any difference. Even in the games where KC struggled on offense (Denver, BUF) the defense held on for dear life and won the game for us. This game matters more than any of those games, and this teams heart and attitude hasn't been questioned all year. If you think this is a freebie or that you're "definitely gonna come in and get up by 2 TDs and hopefully hold on" you might want to go look at yourself in the mirror and say LOL. Because that's not gonna happen.

You can say "Well our defense is way better than those teams you mentioned". First of all, no it's really not all that much better. Secondly, the Chiefs only scored 10 pts through 60 minutes of two of those games, so regardless of how the other defense played the Chiefs still didn't score pts. But they won both times. So get ready, because it's not gonna be easy.

Oh, and that one game that I said didn't matter: that was the only one we lost. So good luck homie.

our defense isnt better than the bills or the broncos? ummmmm yeah, you might wanna look at yourself in the mirror and say homer

WebGem
01-06-2011, 09:43 PM
our defense isnt better than the bills or the broncos? ummmmm yeah, you might wanna look at yourself in the mirror and say homer

That's not what I said. I don't think the Ravens defense is all that good as people make it out to be. Their safeties have sucked all year. The one thing I see to their advantage is the ability to POSSIBLY get to Cassel without blitzing as much. That would make for less 1 on 1 in the secondary and it's the reason I wanted the Jets. But that's not even for sure. Plus Baltimore is clearly beat up with multiple pro bowlers missing practices entirely and an injury list about 12 names long.

I said the defense isn't all that much better than some of the defenses we played, meaning that it's not a great defense (because I don't think there's a great D in the NFL this year at all) that's going to setup the Chiefs to fail on both sides of the ball by taking the offense off the field right away. The Bills and Broncos just happened to be the teams KC's offense struggled against at home. I didn't compare the Ravens defense to the Bills and Broncos, I'm not a complete moron.

My post was mainly focused on how awesome KC's defense has played at Arrowhead this year. They're matched up with Baltimore's offense, which is nothing special. That's the key. Although Baltimore's defense could potentially take control of the game (as could any of the other 30 defenses on any given sunday), I just don't see it happening.

But look at that rundown I gave you of the defense in the home games. Then look at our overall defensive stats. It's clearly a pretty damn big difference at home. Most of what you hear from analysts and even people on this board is gonna be based on the Chiefs overall, not just at home. And I think it's 2 separate situations (road and home), and I really think it's gonna be the deciding factor in this game. Which means the weekend after, if KC happens to be alive, I'm going to be playing my any given Sunday card. And I have the right to do that.

jettio
01-06-2011, 09:45 PM
well, most people would argue otherwise. dont get me wrong, i would not be surprised at all if the chiefs won. but lets get real, you've played 1 team at home with a winning record this year.

That has no relevance. The game is between the Chiefs and the Ravens.

What is relevant is the fact that the Ravens do not match up with the Chiefs speed.

Also relevant is that the Ravens think they have already won the game because of their "experience."

The Ravens are going to add to their playoff experience by learning what it is like to lose a game because of overconfidence and lack of matchup speed.

Bearcat
01-06-2011, 09:51 PM
hey all, ravens fan here. this is the way i see it

for all of you praying for a fast chief's start: don't count on it, and dont be discouraged when you dont get it. the ravens start fast but have no killer instinct whatsoever, specifically cam cameron and the offense. grey redstar is dead on in that aspect

they have had 10 point leads over new england and buffalo in the 4th quarter and blew both of those. we had a 28-7 lead against houston and, if not for a big pick-6 in overtime, the texans have another 85+ yard drive to win the game. against tampa and cincy we had two touchdown leads and they had the ball to win or tie the game at the end but couldnt. and we sat on the ball the entire 2nd half against the steelers

we let teams hangaround and have not put teams away all season. in the games afforementioned we have been outscored in the 4th quarter 59-3 so if the chiefs are down by two touchdowns in the 4th (which i expect them to be) dont count them out

dont get me wrong, the ravens are a very talented team but i expect this game to be very close. hopefully the chiefs comeback falls just short
BAL 24
KC 20

good luck and congrats on a great season. GO RAVENS!!!

That's the big thing I took away from looking at their schedule... they can play with anyone, but seem to keep both teams in the game. They're 3-2 in road playoff games in the past couple of years, and completely dismantled NE in the first quarter in Foxboro last year, so while Arrowhead will be rocking and (I certainly hope) there will be a definite advantage, I don't expect them to curl into the fetal position on the sidelines.

I get a weird vibe between looking at the stats and reading what people on both sides are saying about the game... Ravens fans, at most, seem cautiously optimistic, even though their strength matches up well with the Chiefs' strength, and they won more games while playing a much tougher schedule. OTOH, it's not a terrible matchup for the Chiefs if they can get JC outside and maybe work the screen game... the Ravens are 3rd from the bottom in sacks, and like you said, they don't have a killer instinct.

I think it'll be close and fairly low-scoring... my heart says the Chiefs make enough plays to come out on top, but my brain says the Ravens will keep them at arms length and get it done.

WebGem
01-06-2011, 09:53 PM
Wow I just remembered some shit from a year ago+. Before the 2009 season I found some loser on YouTube (Prolly a 16 year old kid) who did Ravens predictions/reviews video's each week. He was beyond fucking stupid. You could tell he just read articles and talked about keys to the game, etc. I really want to find him now to say hello Sunday night but I can't seem to find him. Anyone seen this clown before?

WebGem
01-06-2011, 09:55 PM
Wow I just remembered some shit from a year ago+. Before the 2009 season I found some loser on YouTube (Prolly a 16 year old kid) who did Ravens predictions/reviews video's each week. He was beyond ****ing stupid. You could tell he just read articles and talked about keys to the game, etc. I really want to find him now to say hello Sunday night but I can't seem to find him. Anyone seen this clown before?

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I went to my channel and saw the comments he left a while back

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KcKc
01-06-2011, 09:58 PM
this thread has me pumped for the game. got my endzone ticket and cant wait.

i dont expect to have a voice on monday.

rpcfball
01-06-2011, 10:10 PM
That's not what I said. I don't think the Ravens defense is all that good as people make it out to be. Their safeties have sucked all year. The one thing I see to their advantage is the ability to POSSIBLY get to Cassel without blitzing as much. That would make for less 1 on 1 in the secondary and it's the reason I wanted the Jets. But that's not even for sure. Plus Baltimore is clearly beat up with multiple pro bowlers missing practices entirely and an injury list about 12 names long.

I said the defense isn't all that much better than some of the defenses we played, meaning that it's not a great defense (because I don't think there's a great D in the NFL this year at all) that's going to setup the Chiefs to fail on both sides of the ball by taking the offense off the field right away. The Bills and Broncos just happened to be the teams KC's offense struggled against at home. I didn't compare the Ravens defense to the Bills and Broncos, I'm not a complete moron.

My post was mainly focused on how awesome KC's defense has played at Arrowhead this year. They're matched up with Baltimore's offense, which is nothing special. That's the key. Although Baltimore's defense could potentially take control of the game (as could any of the other 30 defenses on any given sunday), I just don't see it happening.

But look at that rundown I gave you of the defense in the home games. Then look at our overall defensive stats. It's clearly a pretty damn big difference at home. Most of what you hear from analysts and even people on this board is gonna be based on the Chiefs overall, not just at home. And I think it's 2 separate situations (road and home), and I really think it's gonna be the deciding factor in this game. Which means the weekend after, if KC happens to be alive, I'm going to be playing my any given Sunday card. And I have the right to do that.

i see what your saying and the chiefs D could very well stop the ravens O. but the ravens are night and day between halves on offense. they move the ball very well in the first half and then sit on it in the second half. you think its rediculous that i think the ravens are going to get a decent sized lead and then hope to hold on at the end, but i've seen them do it like 7 times this year.

J Diddy
01-06-2011, 10:13 PM
The real question is who's gonna have a stream going sunday. I got to effing work and I plan on bringing my laptop

WebGem
01-06-2011, 10:13 PM
i see what your saying and the chiefs D could very well stop the ravens O. but the ravens are night and day between halves on offense. they move the ball very well in the first half and then sit on it in the second half. you think its rediculous that i think the ravens are going to get a decent sized lead and then hope to hold on at the end, but i've seen them do it like 7 times this year.

How many of those times were against a team that was 10-5 overall and 7-0 at home after their 15 games that mattered were over? And in the other teams house?

rpcfball
01-06-2011, 10:19 PM
That's the big thing I took away from looking at their schedule... they can play with anyone, but seem to keep both teams in the game. They're 3-2 in road playoff games in the past couple of years, and completely dismantled NE in the first quarter in Foxboro last year, so while Arrowhead will be rocking and (I certainly hope) there will be a definite advantage, I don't expect them to curl into the fetal position on the sidelines.

I get a weird vibe between looking at the stats and reading what people on both sides are saying about the game... Ravens fans, at most, seem cautiously optimistic, even though their strength matches up well with the Chiefs' strength, and they won more games while playing a much tougher schedule. OTOH, it's not a terrible matchup for the Chiefs if they can get JC outside and maybe work the screen game... the Ravens are 3rd from the bottom in sacks, and like you said, they don't have a killer instinct.

I think it'll be close and fairly low-scoring... my heart says the Chiefs make enough plays to come out on top, but my brain says the Ravens will keep them at arms length and get it done.

yes, i agree 100% see, for the last couple of years us ravens fans have watched a team that has very much underachieved. this year, we have all the talent at every position that anyone could possibly ask for. we just do not show up in the second half of football games. our coordinaters dont play to win, they play not to lose. and a lot of times they do. they pissed away leads against new england, atlanta, and pittsburgh the second time. so while there's no team that we feel we cant compete with, there's no team we feel we can beat handily. cautiously optimistic is a perfect way of putting it

Ugly Duck
01-07-2011, 12:41 AM
I think we win and it's not that close. 27 -17. Mark it down.

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Bane: "We will OWN them at Arrowhead." KC-37, Faid-19

Lzen: "The Raiders won last time on the Chiefs mistakes. I don't see that happening this time. This team plays a completely different game at home." Chiefs 31, Raiders 17

ROR: "We are going to ****ing kill the Raiders this week."

Boogblaster: "F()ck da Faiders." Chiefs 28, Faiders 13

Extra Point
01-07-2011, 12:52 AM
i see what your saying and the chiefs D could very well stop the ravens O. but the ravens are night and day between halves on offense. they move the ball very well in the first half and then sit on it in the second half. you think its rediculous that i think the ravens are going to get a decent sized lead and then hope to hold on at the end, but i've seen them do it like 7 times this year.

Good point, regarding first half lead. The Chiefs get a lot of work done in the first half at home. Chiefs win by 10, thanks to an extra FG in the 4th quarter.

TxCasselGrl
01-07-2011, 09:17 AM
I am a Patriots fan, but a big fan of Matt Cassel! I am pulling for the Chiefs to pull an upset against the Ravens. Remember any given Sunday!

Good luck Chief fans!

Chiefs Pantalones
01-07-2011, 09:23 AM
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Bane: "We will OWN them at Arrowhead." KC-37, Faid-19

Lzen: "The Raiders won last time on the Chiefs mistakes. I don't see that happening this time. This team plays a completely different game at home." Chiefs 31, Raiders 17

ROR: "We are going to ****ing kill the Raiders this week."

Boogblaster: "F()ck da Faiders." Chiefs 28, Faiders 13

ROFL

You Raider fans are living off of a meaningless game. What you don't know is that we don't give a fuck that you beat us. We won the division. You're sitting at home watching the playoffs. It's hilarious that our AFC West foes try to talk shit to the division champs. Enjoy being the lowly Raiders. No matter what happens Sunday, at least we made it.