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WebGem
01-02-2011, 10:23 PM
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/Football/NFL/1/Lines.aspx

It is currently Ravens -1 (Ravens favored by 1). When I checked on the way home on my phone it was Ravens -3. Weird that it already changed by 2 points. I expect Vegas having it at 1 means they think the Chiefs are gonna win (because I assume the public will be all over the Ravens there), and they're right more than they're not. :thumb:

Regardless, I think this proves we have a far better shot at winning than a lot of people are saying. Say what you want, but if you could be so sure about teams winning a game when they're favored by only 1 sports betting would be pretty easy, and it's not.

In related comical news, I am going to refresh that page in about a half hour so I can laugh my ass off at the Saints favored by double digits on the road in the playoffs. ROFL Seriously, that Seattle team is AWFUL and I will not be surprised if it's close to 10 points, or even more.

Edit: LMAO Saints line is out. Saints -10

WV
01-02-2011, 10:25 PM
Any given Sunday!

KChiefs1
01-02-2011, 10:26 PM
Chiefs record as a home dog is pretty good.

KCrockaholic
01-02-2011, 10:32 PM
If we release Jamaal Charles, we win. If we start TJ we lose.

FREE JAMAAL CHARLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KILLER_CLOWN
01-02-2011, 10:37 PM
If our line blocks, we win. If our line plays matador we lose.

FYP!

Pawnmower
01-02-2011, 10:39 PM
i have no idea where they got -1 from, i think they forgot a few points

It will probably open up with the Ravens -7 or so.......hope i'm wrong tho


if pinnacle is actually taking bets on that i will be shocked

KCrockaholic
01-02-2011, 10:39 PM
Well yeah that too obviously. But Charles doesn't need a line to pick up 6YPC. He's been doing it all year behind an average one.

Count Alex's Wins
01-02-2011, 10:41 PM
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WebGem
01-02-2011, 10:41 PM
i have no idea where you got -1 from, i think you forgot a few points

It will probably open up with the Ravens -7 or so.......hope i'm wrong tho

http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/Football/NFL/1/Lines.aspx

7? Are you crazy? It's 1. It might move by up to 2 pts but definitely not more.

WebGem
01-02-2011, 10:43 PM
if pinnacle is actually taking bets on that i will be shocked

They are taking bets, if you have an account you can bet there as long as you don't live in the US. Donbest.com lists every site in the odds section. Currently only 3 sites have it up and two of them have it at 1 and the other at 2.5.

http://www.donbest.com/nfl/odds/20110107.html

Bwana
01-02-2011, 10:44 PM
I figured it would be Ravens by -3.

Pawnmower
01-02-2011, 10:45 PM
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/Football/NFL/1/Lines.aspx

7? Are you crazy? It's 1. It might move by up to 2 pts but definitely not more.

casino cash bet? ill take the over 2.5 on that


edit: i would never bet against the chiefs but at-1 damn..........awful tempting

WebGem
01-02-2011, 10:46 PM
casino cash bet? ill take the over 2.5 on that

I don't have any casino cash. I said it might move up to 3 but not more. Pinnacle is the largest site used to get odds, BoDog may be a close 2nd and anyways the line is already there so I'm not sure what you want to bet me on. I really don't care, I am just positive it won't move to more than 3. I've never bet on a Chiefs game and I'm definitely not going to bet on this, I just want the Chiefs to win.

Pawnmower
01-02-2011, 10:48 PM
I don't have any casino cash. I said it might move up to 3 but not more. Pinnacle is the largest site used to get odds, BoDog may be a close 2nd and anyways the line is already there so I'm not sure what you want to bet me on. I really don't care, I am just positive it won't move to more than 3. I've never bet on a Chiefs game and I'm definitely not going to bet on this, I just want the Chiefs to win.

i dont have much cash either....wanna bet 5k? over/under 3.5?
not betting on the game, just what the line will be

Pawnmower
01-02-2011, 10:49 PM
alo is it 'off' with pinnacle or are they actually taking bets?? im shocked (that particular wager)

WebGem
01-02-2011, 10:51 PM
you said 'up to 2' and i dont have much cash either....wanna bet 5k? over/under 3.5? hell ill even t

ot betting on the game, just what the line will beake 3.5

I said it might move up to 2 pts meaning from 1 to 3 (move by 2 pts). And no I don't want to bet casino cash, which is worthless to me on something pointless.

WebGem
01-02-2011, 10:52 PM
LMAO Saints line is out. Saints -10 on the road.

Pawnmower
01-02-2011, 10:53 PM
LMAO Saints line is out. Saints -10 on the road.

i might have to take 10 points on that one


i have racked up a massive 200 bux in winnings this season lollll

maybe ill have some scraps left for superbowl

LaChapelle
01-02-2011, 10:55 PM
Activate Mike Cox

WebGem
01-02-2011, 10:56 PM
i might have to take 10 points on that one


i have racked up a massive 200 bux in winnings this season lollll

I stopped betting on sports like 6 years ago, it's pretty dumb IMO. But I still do look at lines for my teams games out of curiosity because I think it reveals things about the game sometimes.

But man, that Saints 10 point spread is quite hilarious. Not hilarious as if it's easy to bet, but just funny as hell a team is favored by so much on the road in the playoffs.

Pawnmower
01-02-2011, 11:00 PM
I stopped betting on sports like 6 years ago, it's pretty dumb IMO. But I still do look at lines for my teams games out of curiosity because I think it reveals things about the game sometimes.

But man, that Saints 10 point spread is quite hilarious.

i agree , i dont bet anything i cant lose and laugh about.....i put like 60 bux in in the beginning of the season...and do parlay cards (5 bux / 10 bux) and work my way up or go bust.....makes it fun for me

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-03-2011, 04:53 AM
I'm wondering if a playoff win is worth 100 bucks to me.

Renegade
01-03-2011, 06:15 AM
Activate Mike Cox

Interesting idea. Why doesn't the NFL allow expanded rosters during the playoffs like the MLB does?

ChiefGator
01-03-2011, 06:29 AM
Interesting idea. Why doesn't the NFL allow expanded rosters during the playoffs like the MLB does?

Why would they? We the IR as a possibility, any injured player can easily be put on IR by the time they hit the postseason, thereby making room for a street free agent.

JD10367
01-03-2011, 08:09 AM
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/Football/NFL/1/Lines.aspx

It is currently Ravens -1 (Ravens favored by 1). When I checked on the way home on my phone it was Ravens -3. Weird that it already changed by 2 points. I expect Vegas having it at 1 means they think the Chiefs are gonna win (because I assume the public will be all over the Ravens there), and they're right more than they're not. :thumb:

Actually, Vegas never thinks anyone is gonna win. Vegas wants a number that puts half the bettors on one side and half on the other. If the number went from Baltimore -3 to Baltimore -1 it's 'cause more bettors so far think the Ravens will win (so they're lowering the spread to get more people to bet KC).

Home team gets a FG so a number of -1 basically means the betting public thinks the Ravens are a 4-point-win better team than the Chiefs. I think.

FringeNC
01-03-2011, 08:18 AM
Actually, Vegas never thinks anyone is gonna win. Vegas wants a number that puts half the bettors on one side and half on the other. If the number went from Baltimore -3 to Baltimore -1 it's 'cause more bettors so far think the Ravens will win (so they're lowering the spread to get more people to bet KC).

Home team gets a FG so a number of -1 basically means the betting public thinks the Ravens are a 4-point-win better team than the Chiefs. I think.

You have that backwards. Line is moving towards the Chiefs because the betting public is pounding the Chiefs, and the books need to lower the line to get bets on Baltimore.

HMc
01-03-2011, 08:52 AM
I doubt the big bookmakers in vegas or anywhere else are into taking on loads of risk by operating an unbalanced book in the hope of predicting the outcomes of sporting events. They're just there to make the juice that is the difference between the probabilities of the outcomes and the payout on the outcomes. The same as casinos, really.

DJ's left nut
01-03-2011, 10:11 AM
Damn, if you can get Ravens -1, I'd suggest jumping on it.

If nothing else, that line is going to shift and if you feel dirty about betting agains the Chiefs, you can lock in a small profit by hedging it with a Pro-Chiefs bet as the line shifts.

I just cannot see that line standing pat at -1, not with the Chiefs home playoff record and coming off that abysmal showing against the Raiders.

baitism
01-03-2011, 10:33 AM
Ill wager that it ends up around -3.5. These agencies don't like pushes.

Pawnmower
01-03-2011, 05:37 PM
Line is moved up to Ravens -3 On most of the sources.......

-1 would have been an evil, evil temptation....

If it goes up a LIITLE more I might start making a homer bet (Chiefs +4 or maybe even fuck the points and take the money)

Pawnmower
01-03-2011, 05:38 PM
Oh and NO is up to 10.5 in some places!

Rausch
01-03-2011, 05:45 PM
I'm wondering if a playoff win is worth 100 bucks to me.

It is.

$100 for our first playoff win in almost 20 years?

FUCK YEAH that's worth it. You'd pay that just to go to a game you don't know the outcome of...

Gonzo
01-03-2011, 05:59 PM
Mixed emotions. If I were a betting man, I'd be putting my money on Baltimore. Then again, I really wouldn't want any part of this game.
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WebGem
01-03-2011, 06:13 PM
I'm wondering if a playoff win is worth 100 bucks to me.

LOL what do you mean? You're gonna put $100 on the Ravens moneyline?

And regardless of what you meant, how the hell can something 17 years in the making not be worth $100 to you?

Pawnmower
01-03-2011, 06:28 PM
LOL what do you mean? You're gonna put $100 on the Ravens moneyline?

And regardless of what you meant, how the hell can something 17 years in the making not be worth $100 to you?

Im gonna go out on a limb and think he meant Jinxing it (betting on the ravens) was worth winning money...

WebGem
01-03-2011, 06:29 PM
Im gonna go out on a limb and think he meant Jinxing it (betting on the ravens) was worth winning money...

Why's your avatar say Free Guardian? That fucking loser finally get banned or something?

Pawnmower
01-03-2011, 06:34 PM
Why's your avatar say Free Guardian? That ****ing loser finally get banned or something?

ROFLROFLROFL

Yah...He got banned. Its mostly a joke (my avvy), but I promised Clay I would wear this in return for Clay admitting 99% of the shit he said was just to get attention and bullshit...

Its a long story and is debated heavily in some other threads here on the planet.

WebGem
01-03-2011, 06:43 PM
ROFLROFLROFL

Yah...He got banned. Its mostly a joke (my avvy), but I promised Clay I would wear this in return for Clay admitting 99% of the shit he said was just to get attention and bullshit...

Its a long story and is debated heavily in some other threads here on the planet.

Never read them I don't think. Why did he get banned? The reason I hated him was he would always argue with everyone in the game-threads while the Chiefs were getting their shit pushed in (@SD was the main one) as if what was going on gave him a hard-on.

Pawnmower
01-03-2011, 06:47 PM
Never read them I don't think. Why did he get banned? The reason I hated him was he would always argue with everyone in the game-threads while the Chiefs were getting their shit pushed in (@SD was the main one) as if what was going on gave him a hard-on.

Well despite people wanting him to be banned for various reasons and even claiming he was banned for x , y , or z...

The main reason seems to be he called a mod (Bob Dole) a bitch and a pillowbiter.

WebGem
01-03-2011, 10:57 PM
Hahahha here's the betting trends from sportsbetting.com:

95% of the public is on Baltimore so far. Vegas must think Matt Cassel is gonna turn back into Jesus on Sunday.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5232/79732012.jpg

Pawnmower
01-03-2011, 10:59 PM
95% is on them at -3, should go up some more then. Will we see -5 tomorrow?

Mr. Flopnuts
01-03-2011, 11:02 PM
DAMN!!!! Vegas will make a killing if KC wins that game.

WebGem
01-03-2011, 11:03 PM
95% is on them at -3, should go up some more then. Will we see -5 tomorrow?

No, it won't move higher than that. Pinnacle is still down at 1.5, and they're the most commonly used site for odds/traffic even though they're non-US I am pretty sure.

Pawnmower
01-03-2011, 11:08 PM
No, it won't move higher than that. Pinnacle is still down at 1.5, and they're the most commonly used site for odds/traffic even though they're non-US I am pretty sure.

If 95% stays on the ravens -3 and money keeps coming in, wouldnt the line have to move higher?

I saw pinnacle had that, but I don't know anyone that uses the site.....It doesnt seem possible. Can you place a wager with pinnacle? Are you a member?

Psyko Tek
01-03-2011, 11:21 PM
Interesting idea. Why doesn't the NFL allow expanded rosters during the playoffs like the MLB does?

um, 'cause the NFL is a real league
one and down
bring it or go home

the ONLY way to run playoffs
any given weekend

BossChief
01-03-2011, 11:42 PM
DAMN!!!! Vegas will make a killing if KC wins that game.

that line goes over 5, Im gonna drop a bet on KC....that under bet is almost a sure thing as well...

KChiefs1
01-03-2011, 11:47 PM
If you are betting the Chiefs hold off til Saturday...the line will keep moving up.

WebGem
01-03-2011, 11:53 PM
If 95% stays on the ravens -3 and money keeps coming in, wouldnt the line have to move higher?

I saw pinnacle had that, but I don't know anyone that uses the site.....It doesnt seem possible. Can you place a wager with pinnacle? Are you a member?

Yes it's a real site, what the hell do you think it is? Anyone who doesn't live in the US can bet there and it's the most largely used sports betting site even with that. Plus most sites have it at 2.5 or less, not 3. I don't know how this surprises you.

Pawnmower
01-04-2011, 12:01 AM
Yes it's a real site, what the hell do you think it is? Anyone who doesn't live in the US can bet there and it's the most largely used sports betting site even with that. Plus most sites have it at 2.5 or less, not 3. I don't know how this surprises you.

you dont know how it surprises me they still have the line at 1.5 and i cant seem to see how to place a bet there? I was just askin you if you have ever used their site or were able to place a bet there? i do not know oneperson personallly who uses that site....so i was asking you about it...you seem awful defensive...every site that i can actually place a bet on has it at 3 or 2.5


you may as well stop quoting pinnacle, since they do not accept bets from the USA....it isnt even relevant what their odds are on nfl games

BossChief
01-04-2011, 12:03 AM
you dont know how it surprises me they still have the line at 1.5 and i cant seem to see how to place a bet there? I was just askin you if you have ever used their site or were able to place a bet there? i do not know oneperson personallly who uses that site....so i was asking you about it...you seem awful defensive...every site that i can actually place a bet on has it at 3 or 2.5

tryin to make a bet on the site that has Baltimore as only a 1 point favorite huh? and not the other sites?

HMMMMMMM seems fishy, wouldnt ya think?

Pawnmower
01-04-2011, 12:12 AM
tryin to make a bet on the site that has Baltimore as only a 1 point favorite huh? and not the other sites?

HMMMMMMM seems fishy, wouldnt ya think?

well it is a non US site..(cant place any bets from USA)......and basically 99.999% of people betting on nfl are from the USA.

their odds mean two things: (unless you can get someone to place a bet for you)

jack and shit

no clue why this kid is claiming it is even relevant

BossChief
01-04-2011, 12:26 AM
well it is a non US site..(cant place any bets from USA)......and basically 99.999% of people betting on nfl are from the USA.

their odds mean two things: (unless you can get someone to place a bet for you)

jack and shit

no clue why this kid is claiming it is even relevant
WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BET ON BALTIMORE???

WebGem
01-04-2011, 12:28 AM
you dont know how it surprises me they still have the line at 1.5 and i cant seem to see how to place a bet there? I was just askin you if you have ever used their site or were able to place a bet there? i do not know oneperson personallly who uses that site....so i was asking you about it...you seem awful defensive...every site that i can actually place a bet on has it at 3 or 2.5


you may as well stop quoting pinnacle, since they do not accept bets from the USA....it isnt even relevant what their odds are on nfl games

Yes I have bet there before and I have a few friends who still do, but I do not bet on sports anymore. Other US sites have it at less than 2.5, this isn't really debatable.

WebGem
01-04-2011, 12:29 AM
well it is a non US site..(cant place any bets from USA)......and basically 99.999% of people betting on nfl are from the USA.

their odds mean two things: (unless you can get someone to place a bet for you)

jack and shit

no clue why this kid is claiming it is even relevant

First of all I'm not a kid, and like I said before Pinnacle is the most widely accessed sports betting website. I do not bet on sports but I am very, very familiar with it. And their lines are more than relevant. Saying Pinnacle isn't a real sports betting site is nothing other than lol material.

Pawnmower
01-04-2011, 01:04 AM
Yes I have bet there before and I have a few friends who still do, but I do not bet on sports anymore. Other US sites have it at less than 2.5, this isn't really debatable.

link of these sites that have it at 1.5? Ones that actually accept bets ?

Pawnmower
01-04-2011, 01:05 AM
WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BET ON BALTIMORE???

no!! I have nevert bet money against the chiefs...im actually hoping the line moves to 4 or 5 so i can take the chifs + points, am just mainly curious.

HemiEd
01-04-2011, 02:36 AM
Actually, Vegas never thinks anyone is gonna win. Vegas wants a number that puts half the bettors on one side and half on the other. If the number went from Baltimore -3 to Baltimore -1 it's 'cause more bettors so far think the Ravens will win (so they're lowering the spread to get more people to bet KC).

Home team gets a FG so a number of -1 basically means the betting public thinks the Ravens are a 4-point-win better team than the Chiefs. I think.Your thinking is mostly right. But if they wanted more people to bet KC, they would increase the number of points that Baltimore is giving up to KC.