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Oxford
01-04-2011, 06:54 PM
A list of unemployed (or soon to be) former OC's

11. Brad Childress
16. Josh McDaniels
18. Bob Bratkowski
19. Dan Henning
20. Jimmy Raye
22. Jeff Davidson
23. Jim Zorn, Sherman Lewis
27. Todd Haley
26. Brian Daboll
31. Alex Van Pelt

Rankings by PFW at the end of the 2009 season

Ugly Duck
01-04-2011, 06:56 PM
16. Josh McDaniels

MahiMike
01-04-2011, 06:57 PM
16. Josh McDaniels

After the finger pointing? He wouldn't last as long as our last 2 OC's.

Farzin
01-04-2011, 06:58 PM
Whoever it is, it needs to be figured out fast.

20 teams are already in their offseason. Scott Pioli needs to work fast. Not that I want to be out of the playoffs, but the negative is, when something like this happens, you can fall behind. I honestly believe not being in the postseason was a big advantage in bringing in Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel last year. I'm sure a couple of playoff teams from last season would have loved to get one of the two, or maybe even both.

Rams Fan
01-04-2011, 06:58 PM
Childress is going to the Rams if Shurmur is hired by Cleveland for their HC job.

bevischief
01-04-2011, 07:01 PM
Mecca.

Ugly Duck
01-04-2011, 07:10 PM
http://www.jockism.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/lane-kiffin-332.jpg

milkman
01-04-2011, 07:16 PM
You can eliminate guys like Childress, Zorn, Raye, Lewis from the discussions.

West coast offense.

Rams Fan
01-04-2011, 07:17 PM
You can eliminate guys like Childress, Zorn, Raye, Lewis from the discussions.

West coast offense.

Yep. Freddie Kitchens seems like a guy that would work(was with Parcells in Dallas in '06) and is the TE coach in AZ(has been there since Haley's first year in AZ).

Lonewolf Ed
01-04-2011, 07:18 PM
Curse and damn you for even listing Jimmy Raye!

Deberg_1990
01-04-2011, 07:19 PM
Paul Hackett

CaliforniaChief
01-04-2011, 07:20 PM
Russ Grimm

Mr_Tomahawk
01-04-2011, 07:22 PM
Repost.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=239446

penguinz
01-04-2011, 07:22 PM
A list of unemployed (or soon to be) former OC's

11. Brad Childress
16. Josh McDaniels
18. Bob Bratkowski
19. Dan Henning
20. Jimmy Raye
22. Jeff Davidson
23. Jim Zorn, Sherman Lewis
27. Todd Haley
26. Brian Daboll
31. Alex Van Pelt

Rankings by PFW at the end of the 2009 seasonAm I drunker than I think I am or am I missing something?

milkman
01-04-2011, 07:23 PM
Am I drunker than I think I am or am I missing something?

I struggled with it at first, but then realized that he was suggesting that Haley would take on that responsibilty as well as HC duties, as he did last season.

MIAdragon
01-04-2011, 07:24 PM
You can eliminate guys like Childress, Zorn, Raye, Lewis from the discussions.

West coast offense.

Why do you say that? Didn't AZ run a WC offense under Haley?

penguinz
01-04-2011, 07:25 PM
I struggled with it at first, but then realized that he was suggesting that Haley would take on that responsibilty as well as HC duties, as he did last season.But he says it is a list of unemployed OC's.

milkman
01-04-2011, 07:26 PM
Why do you say that? Didn't AZ run a WC offense under Haley?

I can never remember the exact name, but he ran an Ernhardt-Perkins (something like that) offense, the same as the Chiefs run now, and that Charlie Weis ran in New England.

CaliforniaChief
01-04-2011, 07:26 PM
He could bring in Kurt Warner. He's from the Midwest, Haley could still basically control the strategy, and Warner could help Cassel. And if Cassel sucks like he did Sunday, Warner could replace him. You know, list him as OC/3rd QB (Emergency)

milkman
01-04-2011, 07:26 PM
But he says it is a list of unemployed OC's.

An oversight.

milkman
01-04-2011, 07:27 PM
He could bring in Kurt Warner. He's from the Midwest, Haley could still basically control the strategy, and Warner could help Cassel. And if Cassel sucks like he did Sunday, Warner could replace him. You know, list him as OC/3rd QB (Emergency)

Warner has no interest in coaching.

KCrockaholic
01-04-2011, 07:29 PM
I can never remember the exact name, but he ran an Ernhardt-Perkins (something like that) offense, the same as the Chiefs run now, and that Charlie Weis ran in New England.

So we have to find a guy that runs the same type of offense as Charlie? I mean, why wouldn't we be open to using a new system if the right OC came along?

milkman
01-04-2011, 07:30 PM
So we have to find a guy that runs the same type of offense as Charlie? I mean, why wouldn't we be open to using a new system if the right OC came along?

Chan Gailey

CaliforniaChief
01-04-2011, 07:31 PM
Haley needs someone who can handle the offense so he can show pictures of his homes to the media.

stlchiefs
01-04-2011, 07:32 PM
Paul Hackett

Funny you mentioned him. I was just wondering what he was up to earlier today and looked him up on wikipedia. Turns out he has gone to the dark side and is the QB coach for the Faiders.

Deberg_1990
01-04-2011, 07:38 PM
He could bring in Kurt Warner. He's from the Midwest, Haley could still basically control the strategy, and Warner could help Cassel. And if Cassel sucks like he did Sunday, Warner could replace him. You know, list him as OC/3rd QB (Emergency)

Former superstar QB's who made millions dont have much interest in spending 14 hour days coaching.

RustShack
01-04-2011, 07:48 PM
So we have to find a guy that runs the same type of offense as Charlie? I mean, why wouldn't we be open to using a new system if the right OC came along?

Because they have to run Haleys offense. Weis even runs that offense and there was still a problem between them. The only reason he made it a full year is because its the same scheme at least... thats why it didn't work with Gailey.

Psyko Tek
01-04-2011, 07:57 PM
Funny you mentioned him. I was just wondering what he was up to earlier today and looked him up on wikipedia. Turns out he has gone to the dark side and is the QB coach for the Faiders.

could he be the next head coach?
wouldn't that be a joy

Dante84
01-04-2011, 08:03 PM
Nick Caserio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Caserio

threebag02
01-04-2011, 08:55 PM
****ing J. Raye??? Why the hell would you do that?

kcmaxwell
01-04-2011, 08:57 PM
Curse and damn you for even listing Jimmy Raye!

Literally winced when i read his name...

TRR
01-04-2011, 09:01 PM
McDaniels or Haley. Don't bring in a lame duck OC just for the sake of having an OC IMO.
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ceebz
01-04-2011, 09:02 PM
It will be McDaniels.

MahiMike
01-04-2011, 09:06 PM
No one is gonna agree with Haley more than Todd. He IS the best candidate.

Thig Lyfe
01-04-2011, 09:56 PM
Trent Green!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KILLER_CLOWN
01-04-2011, 09:57 PM
It will be McDaniels.

This is probably the best choice, just not sure it will be done.

crossbow
01-04-2011, 10:05 PM
You guys are realy missing the mark here. Herm Edwards will be hired and he will direct an explosive punting attack like the NFL has never seen before.

Bank on it.

Oxford
01-05-2011, 07:23 AM
Greg Robinson, he always make offenses look good

Oxford
01-05-2011, 07:25 AM
Frankly, I just don't think there is much out there in the retread area. So what up and comer from the Parcells/Belichek tree is available? Maybe a college HC with a NFL background?

talastan
01-05-2011, 07:32 AM
Greg Robinson, he always make offenses look good

Rep!! ROFL

loochy
01-05-2011, 08:53 AM
Steal back Al Saunders

Chiefnj2
01-05-2011, 09:00 AM
Crazier things have happened, but I just don't see McDaniels and Haley getting along for more than 3-4 hours; tops.

Dante84
01-05-2011, 09:01 AM
Crazier things have happened, but I just don't see McDaniels and Haley getting along for more than 3-4 hours; tops.

Just enough time for JM to spill everything he knows about the Broncos roster and individual player weaknesses.

wazu
01-05-2011, 09:07 AM
Crazier things have happened, but I just don't see McDaniels and Haley getting along for more than 3-4 hours; tops.

McDaniels got along with Belicheck. And McDaniels is in desperate need of a place to rebuild his career for a couple of years. I think Haley is smart enough to know that McDaniels can help a lot as O-coordinator, and he's stated repeatedly that his goal is to be the head coach, not just an "offense" guy.

I also think people are too negative about Haley's ability to maintain working relationships. I see too many shots of players who supposedly don't get along with Haley running over directly to him to celebrate after a big play. Haley also has a pattern of hiring people whom he has worked with in the past, so obviously he isn't some toxic character that coaches like Weis, Crennel, etc, don't want to come work with.

FringeNC
01-05-2011, 09:08 AM
At some point, it's going to be Nick Siriani. Haley is grooming him. Why not just make him OC next year? McDaniels is a one and done guy, too. I think it's inevitable that he will get another HC job, either now, or in a year after being an OC.

Dante84
01-05-2011, 09:11 AM
At some point, it's going to be Nick Siriani. Haley is grooming him. Why not just make him OC next year? McDaniels is a one and done guy, too. I think it's inevitable that he will get another HC job, either now, or in a year after being an OC.

Dude's not ready. He needs about three more years.

He's an offensive quality control coach right now - not even a positional coach (qb). He needs to go through that stage before he's ready to lead an entire offense.

It would be throwing him to the wolves and he would flame out in one season, if he was lucky enough to last that long.

ChiTown
01-05-2011, 09:13 AM
At some point, it's going to be Nick Siriani. Haley is grooming him. Why not just make him OC next year? McDaniels is a one and done guy, too. I think it's inevitable that he will get another HC job, either now, or in a year after being an OC.

Really. You think, after the abortion that occurred in Denver, that people will be clamoring to put him back into the leadership position of another Franchise?

:LOL:

Detoxing
01-05-2011, 09:14 AM
McDaniels. He's a douche, but what he did for Orton and lloyd in Denver is beyond remarkable. The guy knows how to scheme.

Dayze
01-05-2011, 09:15 AM
Trent Green / moron Chiefs fans

Chiefnj2
01-05-2011, 09:21 AM
McDaniels got along with Belicheck. And McDaniels is in desperate need of a place to rebuild his career for a couple of years. I think Haley is smart enough to know that McDaniels can help a lot as O-coordinator, and he's stated repeatedly that his goal is to be the head coach, not just an "offense" guy.

I also think people are too negative about Haley's ability to maintain working relationships. I see too many shots of players who supposedly don't get along with Haley running over directly to him to celebrate after a big play. Haley also has a pattern of hiring people whom he has worked with in the past, so obviously he isn't some toxic character that coaches like Weis, Crennel, etc, don't want to come work with.

Haley refused to shake the guys hand, which in the NFL is a big deal. If Haley is so wound up about McD allegedly running up the score or videotaping other games, how is Haley going to work with the guy every day in an extremely stressful environment?

FringeNC
01-05-2011, 09:28 AM
Really. You think, after the abortion that occurred in Denver, that people will be clamoring to put him back into the leadership position of another Franchise?

:LOL:

Actually, yes. He's rumored to be a candidate in SF and Oakland. I doubt any team is going to give him much control over player personnel, though.

DaWolf
01-05-2011, 09:36 AM
Haley refused to shake the guys hand, which in the NFL is a big deal. If Haley is so wound up about McD allegedly running up the score or videotaping other games, how is Haley going to work with the guy every day in an extremely stressful environment?

Plus look at it the other way. McD obviously had the same problem getting along with his DC Nolan last year and ran him off. So in many ways McD and Haley are similar. I don't know how you bring in another guy who has the same issues as Haley. Maybe they can bond over it? :shrug:

milkman
01-05-2011, 08:08 PM
McDaniels. He's a douche, but what he did for Orton and lloyd in Denver is beyond remarkable. The guy knows how to scheme.

Orton was already growing as a QB in Chicago.

His numbers in '08 were pretty good, and he had a 79.6 QB rating.

All McDumbass did was let him air it out more because he couldn't develop a ground game in Denver.

There are some Patriot fans that hated McDumbass' playcalling in New England, and they blame him for the SB loss to the Giants because he didn't make any adjustments to counter what the Giants were doing on defense.

Flachief58
01-05-2011, 08:19 PM
You guys are realy missing the mark here. Herm Edwards will be hired and he will direct an explosive punting attack like the NFL has never seen before.

Bank on it.

:LOL:

Rausch
01-05-2011, 08:26 PM
Funny you mentioned him. I was just wondering what he was up to earlier today and looked him up on wikipedia. Turns out he has gone to the dark side and is the QB coach for the Faiders.

That explains a lot...

ChiefsCountry
01-05-2011, 09:16 PM
As soon as Miami lets Sporano go we better hire him as our OL coach ASAP.

Frankie
01-05-2011, 09:24 PM
You guys are realy missing the mark here. Herm Edwards will be hired and he will direct an explosive punting attack like the NFL has never seen before.

Bank on it.

Greg Robinson, he always make offenses look good

ROFL

Frankie
01-05-2011, 09:26 PM
Crazier things have happened, but I just don't see McDaniels and Haley getting along for more than 3-4 hours; tops.

McD is so enamored with Cassel he won't even notice Haley.

KCBOSS1
01-05-2011, 09:26 PM
Al Saunders

milkman
01-05-2011, 09:28 PM
Al Saunders

Not a fit.

threebag02
01-05-2011, 09:28 PM
Haley refused to shake the guys hand, which in the NFL is a big deal. If Haley is so wound up about McD allegedly running up the score or videotaping other games, how is Haley going to work with the guy every day in an extremely stressful environment?



NORML

KCBOSS1
01-05-2011, 09:29 PM
Scheme-wise you mean?

Frankie
01-05-2011, 09:29 PM
At some point, it's going to be Nick Siriani. Haley is grooming him. Why not just make him OC next year? McDaniels is a one and done guy, too. I think it's inevitable that he will get another HC job, either now, or in a year after being an OC.

McDouche is not a one and done guy. Like someone already said, he will need a good three years to wash out the shit stain from his HC resume. If we get him he's here for at least 2 years, maybe 3. Just the right timing for grooming this Siriani dude.

milkman
01-05-2011, 09:31 PM
Scheme-wise you mean?

Yes.

Frankie
01-05-2011, 09:33 PM
As soon as Miami lets Sporano go we better hire him as our OL coach ASAP.

What are they waiting for? I have already promised my kid brother, the Dolphin fan to deliver Cowher.

milkman
01-05-2011, 09:34 PM
What are they waiting for? I have already promised my kid brother, the Dolphin fan to deliver Cowher.

Cowher won't go to Miami.

He wants to coach a team that gives him personnel control, and that won't happen there.

Ugly Duck
01-06-2011, 09:13 AM
Howzabout Marc Trestman? He was the Raider OC under Gruden & has been dominating the CFL as HC of Montreal.

Rausch
01-06-2011, 09:15 AM
I can't see how having 3 different OC's in 3 years is going to help Casshole much...

Ugly Duck
01-06-2011, 11:01 AM
I can't see how having 3 different OC's in 3 years is going to help Casshole much...

Thats cuz you also have to switch to a different HC every two years. Get with the program...

Chiefs Rool
01-06-2011, 11:25 AM
Thats cuz you also have to switch to a different HC every two years. Get with the program...

I think Haley is here to stay :thumb:

booger
01-06-2011, 05:21 PM
Howzabout Marc Trestman? He was the Raider OC under Gruden & has been dominating the CFL as HC of Montreal.

I think he's actually a dark horse for the next Raider HC. Think i have read in year's past he isn't interested in a OC job with his current position.