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DenverDanChiefsFan
01-04-2011, 07:46 PM
AdamSchefter (http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter) Adam Schefter



Filed to ESPN: Raiders informed Tom Cable they will not pick up the option in his contract. He no longer is the Raiders head coach.

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kstater
01-04-2011, 07:46 PM
Awesome

Saul Good
01-04-2011, 07:47 PM
Call Skip.

milkman
01-04-2011, 07:47 PM
The zombie strikes.

Deberg_1990
01-04-2011, 07:48 PM
Would be sweet if Haley hired him for the Chiefs. Oline coach perhaps?

kstater
01-04-2011, 07:49 PM
Who is Al gonna bring in? You've got to think his options are limited.

Gonzo
01-04-2011, 07:50 PM
Directv sucks
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KCrockaholic
01-04-2011, 07:51 PM
Wow. ****in Stupid Ass Raiders.

Best season in 7 years and they do that? Dumbfuck Al Davis.

Gonzo
01-04-2011, 07:51 PM
Al's and idiot. He think Harbaugh's going there? Cable's the best coach they've had since Gruden.
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BigMeatballDave
01-04-2011, 07:51 PM
Would be sweet if Haley hired him for the Chiefs. Oline coach perhaps?Good. Maybe he'll cockpunch Richardson :)

LaChapelle
01-04-2011, 07:51 PM
Someone posted Josh McDaniels is on Al's interview list
but I'm sure Al interviews the assistants also

dirk digler
01-04-2011, 07:51 PM
Who is Al gonna bring in? You've got to think his options are limited.

The speculation is Hue Jackson because they don't want him to get away

Extra Point
01-04-2011, 07:52 PM
Cable for OC, I'm tellin' ya!

mlyonsd
01-04-2011, 07:54 PM
When was the last AFC West coach that completely swept the rest of the division fired?ROFLROFLROFLROFL:doh!::shake:

DenverDanChiefsFan
01-04-2011, 07:55 PM
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AdamSchefter (http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter) Adam Schefter



Raiders offensive coordinator Hue Jackson now becomes a leading candidate to succeed Tom Cable.

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Stinger
01-04-2011, 07:55 PM
The speculation is Hue Jackson because they don't want him to get away

Yep and given today's events probably accelerated the process.

Raiders give Niners permission to interview Hue Jackson
Posted by Mike Florio on January 4, 2011, 8:12 PM EST

Earlier today, word emerged that the San Francisco 49ers sought permission to interview Raiders offensive coordinator Hue Jackson.

Per Jerry McDonald of InsideBayArea.com, Raiders owner Al Davis has granted said permission.

“The 49ers asked and Al said yes,” senior executive John Herrera said. “He’s happy for Hue.”

Of course the Raiders said yes. They really had no choice. Since Jackson is being interviewed for the head-coaching position, the 49ers have the right to talk to him and to hire him.

Whether they will or not remains to be seen, especially since it has been reported that Raiders coach Tom Cable won’t be returning, and that he presumably will be replaced by Jackson.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/raiders-give-niners-permission-to-interview-hue-jackson/

LiveSteam
01-04-2011, 07:55 PM
Who is Al gonna bring in? You've got to think his options are limited.

Shaun Watson

Rain Man
01-04-2011, 07:56 PM
I'm truly curious why this happened. Is there some other allegation against Cable that we don't yet know about? As an opposing fan, it looked to me like Cable was slowly putting the fire out on that Hindenburg of a team.

Whatever the reason, I'm happy about it.

kstater
01-04-2011, 07:57 PM
I'm truly curious why this happened. Is there some other allegation against Cable that we don't yet know about? As an opposing fan, it looked to me like Cable was slowly putting the fire out on that Hindenburg of a team.

Whatever the reason, I'm happy about it.

Well apparently they fired their head coach so they wouldn't lose one of their assistants.

KCrockaholic
01-04-2011, 07:57 PM
I'm truly curious why this happened. Is there some other allegation against Cable that we don't yet know about? As an opposing fan, it looked to me like Cable was slowly putting the fire out on that Hindenburg of a team.

Whatever the reason, I'm happy about it.

Why isn't Jwhit writing a story about how Al and Cable hate eachother?

KCrockaholic
01-04-2011, 07:58 PM
Well apparently they fired their head coach so they wouldn't lose one of their assistants.

Makes so much sense. I would have done it too if I was a senile old sack of shit.

tk13
01-04-2011, 07:58 PM
I'll admit it took me 10 minutes to realize this thread wasn't someone complaining about Comcast or Time Warner.

ChiefsandO'sfan
01-04-2011, 07:58 PM
mortreport Chris Mortensen
Tom Cable's ouster was a little ahead of normal Al Davis time, most likely because 49ers asked permision to interview OC Hue Jackson

LaChapelle
01-04-2011, 07:58 PM
Al may have traded the next 2 year's drafts to the Pats for Belichick for 1 season
Belichick would jump all over that

Rain Man
01-04-2011, 07:58 PM
Well apparently they fired their head coach so they wouldn't lose one of their assistants.

Keep bringing Al that virgin blood. I want him to live forever.

Count Zarth
01-04-2011, 07:59 PM
CABLE OUT!

LET HER GO!

http://massassi.hobby-site.com/massassi/pictures/episode_5/img/hoth_battle_field07.jpg

Brock
01-04-2011, 07:59 PM
The one guy who actually wanted the job and you fire him.

Guru
01-04-2011, 07:59 PM
Just proves how stupid Al really is.

kstater
01-04-2011, 07:59 PM
Watch Al hire Hugh Jackman.

Rain Man
01-04-2011, 08:00 PM
I'll admit it took me 10 minutes to realize this thread wasn't someone complaining about Comcast or Time Warner.


It'd be really cool if they hired Jerry Dishnetwork as the new coach.

Stinger
01-04-2011, 08:05 PM
The one guy who actually wanted the job and you fire him.

^^^ This ^^^

LMAO LMAO

KCtotheSB
01-04-2011, 08:07 PM
God bless Al Davis.

doomy3
01-04-2011, 08:07 PM
Watch Al hire Hugh Jackman.

ROFL

Spott
01-04-2011, 08:09 PM
I hope Al lives forever.

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2011, 08:12 PM
As long as Al Davis and the Spanos are in the division we should be in good shape.

Saul Good
01-04-2011, 08:13 PM
Watch Al hire Hugh Jackman.

I'm going to meet with Al Davis tomorrow while wearing this. Wish me luck.

CaliforniaChief
01-04-2011, 08:24 PM
I actually feel bad for Cable. What the hell did they expect him to do? He actually was proving that continuity was helping them become successful again. And then, after kicking the crap out of a division rival and making ankle bracelets buzz all up and down the California coast, they decide to can him.

I would bet all my casino cash and rep that Al Davis is certifiably sick in the head. Like sick to the point that I bet you could put him on a 72 hour psych. hold.

Christmas continues for Chiefs fans.

grandllama
01-04-2011, 08:26 PM
I don't get it. Punch an assistant coach no one bats an eye in Oakland. Get the team headed in the right direction and obviously ascending and you get canned.

Gawd I love senile ol' Mr. Burns. May he live to see 120.

I'm sorry, Taco can vent all he want, but we are NOT the laughingstock of the AFC West.

DJJasonp
01-04-2011, 08:28 PM
You know.......I have absolutely ZERO head coaching experience.....and somehow, I've got to feel like I've got just as good of a shot as getting hired by the crypt keeper than anyone else!

Might as well make it a lottery!

grandllama
01-04-2011, 08:28 PM
Just to piss off everybody in the division, Crazy Todd oughta bring in McDumbass and Cable next year :-)

Frankie
01-04-2011, 08:31 PM
Great. I was really worried that the Raiders were settling into stability. :thumb:

ReynardMuldrake
01-04-2011, 08:38 PM
Goddamn, how many teams have we played this year that have fired their head coach??

Mangini, Singletary, McDaniels, Cable... am I missing anyone?

patteeu
01-04-2011, 08:43 PM
It will be great if Hue Jackson leaves anyway.

Lzen
01-04-2011, 08:43 PM
Just when you think the Raiders are on the right path, Skeletor rears his ugly head.

ROFL

DaFace
01-04-2011, 08:45 PM
I know this has been expected, but man...what else could Cable have done? I can only hope that a new coach will disrupt whatever momentum they had going for them this year.

milkman
01-04-2011, 08:45 PM
Great. I was really worried that the Raiders were settling into stability. :thumb:

Well said.

Al Bundy
01-04-2011, 08:47 PM
Oakland Raiders....:doh!:

Consistent1
01-04-2011, 08:47 PM
They have a couple nice backs and Zach Miller....they are going to bring in "The Herminator" to do a LJ/Gonzo style R2/P2 offense.....

grandllama
01-04-2011, 08:49 PM
I know this has been expected, but man...what else could Cable have done? I can only hope that a new coach will disrupt whatever momentum they had going for them this year.

That's kinda what I expect. This has to have the Denver fans drooling because this is their one and only chance to climb out of the cellar.

Always takes Oakland at least two - three years to perform under a new regime.

Frankie
01-04-2011, 08:59 PM
OK, I'm OK with us getting McDaniels as OC. But if not that, how'bout him for their HC?

Norman Einstein
01-04-2011, 09:02 PM
Just proves how stupid Al really is.

Al isn't really stupid, I think he is just in the advanced stages of senility.

rockymtnchief
01-04-2011, 09:04 PM
OK, I'm OK with us getting McDaniels as OC. But if not that, how'bout him for their HC?

Fine by me. The first thing he'd do is see what he can trade for the talent on the D-line.

grandllama
01-04-2011, 09:04 PM
OK, I'm OK with us getting McDaniels as OC. But if not that, how'bout him for their HC?

I could live with that LOL

God knows Al thinks he's getting Harbaugh, and Harbaugh thinks Al is insane... He's a Michigan grad, he knows better to stay away from career suicide.

dedicatedfan
01-04-2011, 09:12 PM
Leave it to Al, once again, to prove that he is the worst owner in the league.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-04-2011, 09:15 PM
LMAO May Al Davis live to 160.

Chiefnj2
01-04-2011, 09:18 PM
Wow. I'm surprised by this. Cable seemed like a good coach for Al. Plus, he had them turned in the right direction.

Good for KC.

kysirsoze
01-04-2011, 09:23 PM
They have a couple nice backs and Zach Miller....they are going to bring in "The Herminator" to do a LJ/Gonzo style R2/P2 offense.....

PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN

TEX
01-04-2011, 09:35 PM
Wow. I'm surprised by this. Cable seemed like a good coach for Al. Plus, he had them turned in the right direction.

Good for KC.

Exactly. Stupid is as AL Davis does. I LOVE it! :p

Hope he trumps it by signing HERM...:evil:

grandllama
01-04-2011, 09:36 PM
Exactly. Stupid is as AL Davis does. I LOVE it! :p

Hope he trumps it by signing HERM...:evil:

Oh gawd for that to happen! Me lovey Al long time :-)

DJ's left nut
01-04-2011, 09:42 PM
Long live Al Davis!!!

I just never throught they'd do it. It just doesn't make a damn bit of sense on any level.

Thank you, Al.

Next stop - Mike Leach as offensive coordinator, but only if he promises to dress like a pirate.

BossChief
01-04-2011, 09:46 PM
Lol @ anyone thinking we would bring in a guy that punches numerous women in the face for the kind of team we are building.

...

This is great news. Cable was a perfect fit for Oakland as a person and coach and had that team playing the way you need to.

grandllama
01-04-2011, 09:48 PM
Lol @ anyone thinking we would bring in a guy that punches numerous women in the face for the kind of team we are building.

...

This is great news. Cable was a perfect fit for Oakland as a person and coach and had that team playing the way you need to.

That's why I can't figure out why Al didn't pick up the option. He's the perfect coach for the Raiders from a character standpoint.

Pioli Zombie
01-04-2011, 10:10 PM
Cable has scheduled a press confrence tomorrow between the hours of 8AM and 5PM.

2bikemike
01-04-2011, 10:23 PM
I can't believe why anyone would want that job. It must be miserable working for that dried up old fart.

Art Vader
01-04-2011, 10:26 PM
Cable has scheduled a press confrence tomorrow between the hours of 8AM and 5PM.

ROFL

morphius
01-04-2011, 10:39 PM
This is my favorite news of the day, I'm glad to see them screw it up again.

TinyEvel
01-04-2011, 10:41 PM
I think Al is thinking of Hue Jorgens







(say it aloud)




:D

Ugly Duck
01-04-2011, 10:47 PM
SF Gate: Hue Jackson is in

"Davis brought in Jackson last year to take over the play-calling duties from Cable and the Raiders more than doubled their point total from 2009 (197 to 410)."

Cable wasn't the reason for the Raider turnaround. It was new DC guys John Marshall & Mike Waufle & new OC Hue Jackson. Cable was just a placeholder til they came up with someone better.

http://blackchristiannews.com/news/raidersx-large-tom-cable.jpg

CaliforniaChief
01-04-2011, 10:50 PM
Cable has scheduled a press confrence tomorrow between the hours of 8AM and 5PM.

Literally LOL'd. Rep.

Ugly Duck
01-04-2011, 10:51 PM
Uh-oh... now who's gonna be the new OC in Oaktown?

CaliforniaChief
01-04-2011, 10:54 PM
Uh-oh... now who's gonna be the new OC in Oaktown?

I think it's going to come down to the coach who got punched and a Magic 8 ball. Honestly it makes about as much sense as firing Cable does.

morphius
01-04-2011, 10:55 PM
SF Gate: Hue Jackson is in

"Davis brought in Jackson last year to take over the play-calling duties from Cable and the Raiders more than doubled their point total from 2009 (197 to 410)."

Cable wasn't the reason for the Raider turnaround. It was new DC Mike Waufle & new OC Hue Jackson. Cable was just a placeholder til they came up with someone better.

http://blackchristiannews.com/news/raidersx-large-tom-cable.jpg
The problem is most HC's want to bring in coaches that they know and feel they can trust to do things the way they want and can work as a team. Being stuck with someone that Al Davis picks for you isn't going to appeal to many qualified/quality coaches.

Just Passin' By
01-04-2011, 11:13 PM
SF Gate: Hue Jackson is in

"Davis brought in Jackson last year to take over the play-calling duties from Cable and the Raiders more than doubled their point total from 2009 (197 to 410)."

Cable wasn't the reason for the Raider turnaround. It was new DC guys John Marshall & Mike Waufle & new OC Hue Jackson. Cable was just a placeholder til they came up with someone better.

http://blackchristiannews.com/news/raidersx-large-tom-cable.jpg

The reason for the turnaround was the absence of JaMarcus Russell, IMO.

CoMoChief
01-04-2011, 11:16 PM
At this rate the Raiders are never going to be good if they keep changing coaches every 2 years.

DeezNutz
01-04-2011, 11:17 PM
Loving it. Just when they start to build, the crypt keeper ensures that they have to start over. Cheers, Al.

Ugly Duck
01-04-2011, 11:21 PM
Loving it. Just when they start to build, Mr. Davis ensures that they have to start over. Cheers, Al.

Not starting over. It was was Hue Jackson's offense this year & he's still there. It was Mikw Waufle's & John Marshall's defense this year & they're still there.

DeezNutz
01-04-2011, 11:23 PM
Not starting over. It was was Hue Jackson's offense this year & he's still there. It was Mikw Waufle's & John Marshall's defense this year & they're still there.

I would never call the crypt keeper "Mr. Davis," but nice try.

KC Tattoo
01-04-2011, 11:38 PM
Who in the fuck would want to coach the Fraiders ?!?!??!?!!?????ROFL


Good luck with that Al

Ugly Duck
01-04-2011, 11:52 PM
Shane Lechler rips AL Davis a new one....

http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=Tl26x644SQhefTRKgjfu8GpDku9X7469

KC Tattoo
01-05-2011, 12:10 AM
Shane Lechler rips AL Davis a new one....

http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=Tl26x644SQhefTRKgjfu8GpDku9X7469

Shane is one pissed off punter :LOL:

Drwbllz
01-05-2011, 12:55 AM
Being a Raider fan is flippin' painful Think I'll go swipe some purses and rob some liquor stores...

Stinger
01-05-2011, 01:19 AM
Shane Lechler blasts Al's decision about Cable

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spanky 52
01-05-2011, 04:05 AM
Why doesn't the NFL just take that franchise away from that crazy old fart? I mean it's good for the Chief's but it would really suck to be a Raider's fan.

Pioli Zombie
01-05-2011, 04:25 AM
Hue Jass is going to be their new coach? That should be Rex Ryans name. Hue Jass.

Pushead2
01-05-2011, 04:30 AM
Hue Jass is going to be their new coach? That should be Rex Ryans name. Hue Jass.

http://rlv.zcache.com/i_see_what_you_did_there_poster-p228060760404242422t5wm_400.jpg

Amnorix
01-05-2011, 05:12 AM
I'm truly curious why this happened. Is there some other allegation against Cable that we don't yet know about? As an opposing fan, it looked to me like Cable was slowly putting the fire out on that Hindenburg of a team.

Whatever the reason, I'm happy about it.

Because being undead does bad things to your brain.

dannybcaitlyn
01-05-2011, 05:29 AM
Lets make him our o-line coach for next year!

SenselessChiefsFan
01-05-2011, 05:32 AM
Cable had a ton of talent, it falls on the coaching. They swept the teams they were the most familiar with. That means, that when it came to scouting and gameplanning a team that they only saw on tape.....they failed.

They didn't 'coach' their players.

By the way, I am not at all worried about the in house OC taking over either.

InChiefsHell
01-05-2011, 05:54 AM
HOly Crap...listen to Shane Lechler...here's a friggin' PUNTER out there saying out loud that this was a horrible decision and that he doesn't have a clue why Al would do this...I don't think I've ever heard a more candid interview from a CURRENT Raider about how stupidly run that organization is...that was just pure GOLD...

JD10367
01-05-2011, 05:58 AM
Chiefs: won their division
Broncos: fired their HC... Epic Win for KC.
Raiders: fired their HC... Epic Win for KC.
Chargers: kept their HC... Epic Win for KC.

You guys have hit the Football Lotto before even playing a playoff game. LMAO

morphius
01-05-2011, 06:10 AM
HOly Crap...listen to Shane Lechler...here's a friggin' PUNTER out there saying out loud that this was a horrible decision and that he doesn't have a clue why Al would do this...I don't think I've ever heard a more candid interview from a CURRENT Raider about how stupidly run that organization is...that was just pure GOLD...
Isn't that the ultimate sin for a Raider coach/player? I'm sure Al is absolutely livid that a player spoke up against the organization, same reason he used for firing his last coach without paying out his contract.

Bwana
01-05-2011, 06:19 AM
When was the last AFC West coach that completely swept the rest of the division fired?ROFLROFLROFLROFL:doh!::shake:

Indeed!

My Al live to be 150 years old! Bless you, you doddering old fool.

http://lifeafterlebron.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/aldavis.jpg

JD10367
01-05-2011, 06:26 AM
Indeed!

My Al live to be 150 years old! Bless you, you doddering old fool.

http://lifeafterlebron.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/aldavis.jpg

Cryptkeeper: "That bum Cable is out! I fired him!"
Advisors: "For God's sake, why, Imhotep?!? He swept the division!"
Cryptkeeper: "I don't care! We need a big-name coach! How about we go after that Jon Gruden fellow? I bet he'd fit in well here!"
Advisors: :facepalm:

REDHOTGTO
01-05-2011, 07:31 AM
in that pic he looks exactly like the old man in the room next to my wifes grandma at the nursing home !!!!!

Pasta Giant Meatball
01-05-2011, 07:37 AM
in that pic he looks exactly like the old man in the room next to my wifes grandma at the nursing home !!!!!

Here's the rub. The old man in the room next to your wife's grandma at the nursing home is Al Davis.

BigChiefTablet
01-05-2011, 08:17 AM
Al Davis has always been full retard. When they won that first Superbowl with Jim Plunkett coming off the bench, the next year Al decided it was a nice story, but felt they needed to go into the next year with someone younger. They lost for a few years, then Marc Wilson got hurt and Plunkett came in again off the bench and took them to another Superbowl.

John Gruden took the team out of the cellar and all the way to the AFC championship game, and then Al Davis didn't renew his contract and let him go to the Bucs where he beat the piss out of the Raiders the following year in the Superbowl.

Al Davis needs to live forever.

johnny961
01-05-2011, 08:28 AM
Al Davis really f***ed up good. Good for us. Now, if SF hires Jackson, Oakland gets to start next yr with not only a new HC but a new OC as well. Just when it looks like this team is getting things turned in the right direction. Then Al Davis steps in and destroys any semblance of continuity. Splendid!

Mr. Arrowhead
01-05-2011, 08:48 AM
i will laugh so hard if Hue Jackson went ahead and took the 49ers job

Agent V
01-05-2011, 08:58 AM
Shane Lechler rips AL Davis a new one....

http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=Tl26x644SQhefTRKgjfu8GpDku9X7469

Yes! Now he's gonna fire Shane Lechler.

Chiefnj2
01-05-2011, 08:59 AM
What's worse, the Raiders getting rid of a coach that appears to have helped the team turn the corner, or the Bengals who just gave an extension to a coach who has the team going nowhere?

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 09:19 AM
What's worse, the Raiders getting rid of a coach that appears to have helped the team turn the corner, or the Bengals who just gave an extension to a coach who has the team going nowhere?

I am no fan of batty Al and his moves over the last several years. That said I agree with this move. Cable is not a good head coach. Anyone who follows Oakland has seen Cable out coached time and time again. The problem is nobody else wants the job~

Chiefnj2
01-05-2011, 09:23 AM
I am no fan of batty Al and his moves over the last several years. That said I agree with this move. Cable is not a good head coach. Anyone who follows Oakland has seen Cable out coached time and time again. The problem is nobody else wants the job~

You are no doubt closer to the Raiders than I am, but as Chiefs fan, I say good job Al.

Get rid of the guy who just swept the division and who kicked KC's arse in a meaningless game to them? Bringing in another coach, again. Yey- another rebuild for a divisional foe.

Your punter doesn't seem to happy about it either.

Detoxing
01-05-2011, 09:25 AM
I love the Raiders. They are the best example in Pro sports on how to NOT run a franchise.

Chiefnj2
01-05-2011, 09:26 AM
I love the Raiders. They are the best example in Pro sports on how to NOT run a franchise.

Yet they still have a Super Bowl appearance in modern history.

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 09:31 AM
You are no doubt closer to the Raiders than I am, but as Chiefs fan, I say good job Al.

Get rid of the guy who just swept the division and who kicked KC's arse in a meaningless game to them? Bringing in another coach, again. Yey- another rebuild for a divisional foe.

Your punter doesn't seem to happy about it either.

Being liked by the players never has translated to being a good coach look at the Bengals. The Raiders will continue to struggle until Al gives up power that is a given. The fact they swept the west and still could not the playoffs is not something a coach can take much pride in~

Detoxing
01-05-2011, 09:35 AM
Being liked by the players never has translated to being a good coach look at the Bengals. The Raiders will continue to struggle until Al gives up power that is a given. The fact they swept the west and still could not the playoffs is not something a coach can take much pride in~

It's a step in the right direction. As a Chiefs fan it was easy to see that the Raiders were making strides and playing hard under Cable. Something we haven't seen from them in years.

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 09:37 AM
I love the Raiders. They are the best example in Pro sports on how to NOT run a franchise.

Rival fans are glad to see the Chiefs win the division and make the playoffs with a team that is not that strong. Because history shows the Hunt family only cares about filled seats. This will get season ticket holders to reup and get the seats full. That will be enough to keep Clark content~

Brock
01-05-2011, 09:38 AM
I wonder who the next guy to coach this team for a couple of years will be.

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 09:38 AM
I wonder who the next guy to coach this team for a couple of years will be.

Another puppet~

DeezNutz
01-05-2011, 09:39 AM
I wonder who the next guy to coach this team for a couple of years will be.

He's going to get an extension?

ChiTown
01-05-2011, 09:39 AM
Another puppet~

"Sounds like a great job opportunity to me!"

/Josh McD

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 09:40 AM
"Sounds like a great job opportunity to me!"

/Josh McD

lol

Detoxing
01-05-2011, 09:40 AM
Rival fans are glad to see the Chiefs win the division and make the playoffs with a team that is not that strong. Because history shows the Hunt family only cares about filled seats. This will get season ticket holders to reup and get the seats full. That will be enough to keep Clark content~

Whatever makes you feel better. This is only the second year with Pioli, and what, the third with Clark?

Hardly a body of work to base any of that on.

But, whatever makes you feel better.

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 09:46 AM
Whatever makes you feel better. This is only the second year with Pioli, and what, the third with Clark?

Hardly a body of work to base any of that on.

But, whatever makes you feel better.

That was not intended as smack, just an observation over the years~

Cave Johnson
01-05-2011, 10:14 AM
Chiefs: won their division
<b>Broncos: fired their HC... Epic Win for KC.</b>
Raiders: fired their HC... Epic Win for KC.
Chargers: kept their HC... Epic Win for KC.

You guys have hit the Football Lotto before even playing a playoff game. LMAO

More like three out of four.

Cave Johnson
01-05-2011, 10:16 AM
SF Gate: Hue Jackson is in

"Davis brought in Jackson last year to take over the play-calling duties from Cable and the Raiders more than doubled their point total from 2009 (197 to 410)."

Cable wasn't the reason for the Raider turnaround. It was new DC guys John Marshall & Mike Waufle & new OC Hue Jackson. Cable was just a placeholder til they came up with someone better.

http://blackchristiannews.com/news/raidersx-large-tom-cable.jpg

Promoting Jackson, by definition, weakens the offense. And he's an unproven commodity at HC.

Frankie
01-05-2011, 10:20 AM
Not starting over. It was was Hue Jackson's offense this year & he's still there. It was Mikw Waufle's & John Marshall's defense this year & they're still there.

I had heard the rumor that Jackson would be the next HC. I've been out of the loop since last night. Has that happened yet?

Frankie
01-05-2011, 10:21 AM
Shane Lechler rips AL Davis a new one....

http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=Tl26x644SQhefTRKgjfu8GpDku9X7469

Watch for Al to trade him to New England for a 7th rdc.

Frankie
01-05-2011, 10:23 AM
Why doesn't the NFL just take that franchise away from that crazy old fart?

SHUT UP! Shut up!.... Shut the f@#% up!!!

;)

Frankie
01-05-2011, 10:26 AM
Indeed!

My Al live to be 150 years old! Bless you, you doddering old fool.


Cryptkeeper: "That bum Cable is out! I fired him!"
Advisors: "For God's sake, why, Imhotep?!? He swept the division!"
Cryptkeeper: "I don't care! We need a big-name coach! How about we go after that Jon Gruden fellow? I bet he'd fit in well here!"
Advisors: :facepalm:

ROFL

Frankie
01-05-2011, 10:28 AM
What's worse, the Raiders getting rid of a coach that appears to have helped the team turn the corner, or the Bengals who just gave an extension to a coach who has the team going nowhere?

:hmmm:

HemiEd
01-05-2011, 10:29 AM
Awesome

This is really good news, read it in the paper this morning. The Mrs. couldn't figure out why I was whoooping it up, on the John at 6:30 in the morning.


Ok, now come on Al Davis, hire some "yes kid" so the Raiders can stay ****ed up for a few more years. They were starting to scare me, losing to them sucks worse than almost anything.

suzzer99
01-05-2011, 10:40 AM
I am no fan of batty Al and his moves over the last several years. That said I agree with this move. Cable is not a good head coach. Anyone who follows Oakland has seen Cable out coached time and time again. The problem is nobody else wants the job~

No other owner in the NFL except maybe Dan Snyder fires their HC after a season like that. The fact that every Chiefs, Broncos and Chargers fan is thrilled about this should tell you something.

chiefqueen
01-05-2011, 11:28 AM
Thanks, Al.

The check is the mail.

I hope regular first-class is OK (I still have to re-sign Tamba)

Forever Grateful, Clark

S&BJW
01-05-2011, 12:24 PM
Looking like Hue will be HC and McDaniels may be considered for OC...........or since Harbaugh and Al have been buddies for years.................???????

Frankie
01-05-2011, 01:42 PM
No other owner in the NFL except maybe Dan Snyder fires their HC after a season like that. The fact that every Chiefs, Broncos and Chargers fan is thrilled about this should tell you something.

A bit off-topic, but a young friend of mine used to be a Raider fan. After the draft of 2009, he finally got fed up and decided to be a fan of another team. I invited him to be a Chiefs fan and he refused. He thought about things and decided to become a fan of the REDSKINS! ROFL

LOCOChief
01-05-2011, 02:35 PM
Looking like Hue will be HC and McDaniels may be considered for OC...........or since Harbaugh and Al have been buddies for years.................???????

:LOL:

Al is buddies with Harbaugh?

I'll bet Elway has Harbaugh inked in dunver by the end of next week.

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 02:41 PM
:LOL:

Al is buddies with Harbaugh?

I'll bet Elway has Harbaugh inked in dunver by the end of next week.

They have a friendly relationship as does Bill Parcell. Just like Bill who was available at one time when Al was looking for a coach he will go else where. I think he ends up with the 49ers~

jettio
01-05-2011, 02:42 PM
Not starting over. It was was Hue Jackson's offense this year & he's still there. It was Mikw Waufle's & John Marshall's defense this year & they're still there.

To me, the Raiders looked like a team that was in shape and played hard this year.

They might still be that next year, but I would not be surprised if the Raiders regress if their new coach is a player's coach that does not get his team into condition.

Valiant
01-05-2011, 02:42 PM
I'm truly curious why this happened. Is there some other allegation against Cable that we don't yet know about? As an opposing fan, it looked to me like Cable was slowly putting the fire out on that Hindenburg of a team.

Whatever the reason, I'm happy about it.

I would bring his ass in as a newly made position toughness coordinator/ assistant head
Coach. I want his ass to make our lines play tougher and get mean.

Frankie
01-05-2011, 02:46 PM
:LOL:

I'll bet Elway has Harbaugh inked in dunver by the end of next week.

With Luck to follow. :banghead:

HemiEd
01-05-2011, 02:47 PM
Shane Lechler blasts Al's decision about Cable

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I wonder if Gallery might be signed as a FA guard on the Chiefs?

Valiant
01-05-2011, 02:55 PM
With Luck to follow. :banghead:

What I am afraid of also. Just seems like collusion especially with elways past and the way the cards might fall. hopefully the panthers select him and if he pulls an elwaay they trade him to some other team.

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 02:56 PM
With Luck to follow. :banghead:

If he comes out the Panthers grab him with the 1st pick. People are going bat shit crazy down here over him. Denver would have to give up waaay too much to trade up for him. I still think Harbaugh ends up coaching the 49ers~

Frankie
01-05-2011, 02:58 PM
What I am afraid of also. Just seems like collusion especially with elways past and the way the cards might fall. hopefully the panthers select him and if he pulls an elwaay they trade him to some other team.

Doesn't it look like typical Denver luck? They had a bad enough year when Elway was gonna be the 1st draft pick to be in the position to trade for his ass. Now they have they worst record in years and Luck is there for the picking. Where was luck when we were picking 2nd or 3rd?

Frankie
01-05-2011, 02:58 PM
If he comes out the Panthers grab him with the 1st pick. People are going bat shit crazy down here over him. Denver would have to give up waaay too much to trade up for him. I still think Harbaugh ends up coaching the 49ers~

Those are the scenarios I like.

Valiant
01-05-2011, 03:07 PM
If he comes out the Panthers grab him with the 1st pick. People are going bat shit crazy down here over him. Denver would have to give up waaay too much to trade up for him. I still think Harbaugh ends up coaching the 49ers~

Hopefuully this. Our luck they give carolina tebow, 1st, 2nd and some players for the 1st overall.

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 03:14 PM
Hopefuully this. Our luck they give carolina tebow, 1st, 2nd and some players for the 1st overall.

It is going to cost more than that. This kid is rated so high a trade is undoable IMO~

Frosty
01-05-2011, 03:19 PM
It is going to cost more than that. This kid is rated so high a trade is undoable IMO~

Yeah. If Luck doesn't want to be drafted by the Panthers, he'll need to stay in school (the most likely scenario).

Frankie
01-05-2011, 03:22 PM
Yeah. If Luck doesn't want to be drafted by the Panthers, he'll need to stay in school (the most likely scenario).

And then the Donks will go 0-16. :evil:

Frosty
01-05-2011, 03:26 PM
And then the Donks will go 0-16. :evil:

Luck's got two years left. :)

Frankie
01-05-2011, 03:30 PM
Luck's got two years left. :)

0-32?

BillSelfsTrophycase
01-05-2011, 04:16 PM
Chiefs: won their division
Broncos: fired their HC... Epic Win for KC.


You guys have hit the Football Lotto before even playing a playoff game. LMAO

Disagree, McDaniels' tenure in Denver was every KC fan's wet dream.

Brock
01-05-2011, 04:22 PM
It is going to cost more than that. This kid is rated so high a trade is undoable IMO~

They say the Panthers really don't want to pay him, so unless there is a rookie wage scale in place by then, it may happen.

Ugly Duck
01-05-2011, 04:51 PM
Get rid of the guy who just swept the division and who kicked KC's arse in a meaningless game to them? Yey- another rebuild for a divisional foe.



OAK doesn't have to rebuild cuz Hue Jackson will still be calling the plays as HC. Its still his offense. No rebuild necessary just cuz his title is "HC" instead of "OC." With the exception of Gruden, modern-era OAK HC's have been little more than placeholders with sporadic orders coming down from the owner. Can anyone name an NFL team that he thinks will hire Tom Cable as HC? Seriously... anyone?

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 05:06 PM
They say the Panthers really don't want to pay him, so unless there is a rookie wage scale in place by then, it may happen.

From what I have heard they think the cap will be in place. Even without one the Panthers still get market value for the 1st overall pick and a shot at a QB that is off the charts rated. The price will be stupid steep~

KC Tattoo
01-05-2011, 05:13 PM
Indeed!

My Al live to be 150 years old! Bless you, you doddering old fool.

http://lifeafterlebron.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/aldavis.jpg

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I liked Al Davis when he hosted tales from the Crypt

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 05:15 PM
OAK doesn't have to rebuild cuz Hue Jackson will still be calling the plays as HC. Its still his offense. No rebuild necessary just cuz his title is "HC" instead of "OC." With the exception of Gruden, modern-era OAK HC's have been little more than placeholders with sporadic orders coming down from the owner. Can anyone name an NFL team that he thinks will hire Tom Cable as HC? Seriously... anyone?

Cable is being protrayed as a great coach by some to allow a easy bash against Oakland. Anyone who is not playing it up to hang trash and really thinks he is a great or even good coach knows little about football. Those of us who follow Oakland closely know better~

ChiefsCountry
01-05-2011, 05:18 PM
They say the Panthers really don't want to pay him, so unless there is a rookie wage scale in place by then, it may happen.

Its the same bullshit every year with every team that has the #1 pick.

GloryDayz
01-05-2011, 06:11 PM
This thread makes me hungry!

Ugly Duck
01-05-2011, 06:44 PM
Cable is being protrayed as a great coach by some to allow a easy bash against Oakland.

Hey - I expect Raider-bashing on a Chiefs board... its the most natural thing in the world. And there's plenty of valid reason to bash. But this thing about Cable being the reason for OAK's near-success is just silly. His title may have changed from "Interim Head Coach" to "Head Coach" for a season, but he was still just interim. If he were a real HC, other teams would be considering him. I guess the philosophy is "He's not good enough for other NFL teams, but he's the best thing for the Raiders."

DaFace
01-05-2011, 06:49 PM
Hey - I expect Raider-bashing on a Chiefs board... its the most natural thing in the world. And there's plenty of valid reason to bash. But this thing about Cable being the reason for OAK's near-success is just silly. His title may have changed from "Interim Head Coach" to "Head Coach" for a season, but he was still just interim. If he were a real HC, other teams would be considering him. I guess the philosophy is "He's not good enough for other NFL teams, but he's the best thing for the Raiders."

It'll be interesting to see, but not giving Cable any credit for assembling a good team would be like saying the Chiefs would have been great this year without Haley. After all, Weiss was calling all of the plays. Perhaps we should have just canned Haley and made Weiss the HC instead.

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 07:10 PM
It'll be interesting to see, but not giving Cable any credit for assembling a good team would be like saying the Chiefs would have been great this year without Haley. After all, Weiss was calling all of the plays. Perhaps we should have just canned Haley and made Weiss the HC instead.

Cable had very little to do with assembling the team. And as far as the Haley thing I am not so sure Weiss would not be a better head coah for you guys. I think most of the success KC had this year was due to the OC and DC. Haley deserves credit for hiring them... if it was his call~

DaFace
01-05-2011, 07:14 PM
Cable had very little to do with assembling the team. And as far as the Haley thing I am not so sure Weiss would not be a better head coah for you guys. I think most of the success KC had this year was due to the OC and DC. Haley deserves credit for hiring them... if it was his call~

That's kind of my point. The "fire Haley" thing was meant to be sarcastic. I think Haley has been vital for our success, even though Weiss is the one who's been calling the plays. I just think it's easy to discount the role of the head coach and say it's all the coordinators.

ArrowheadHawk
01-05-2011, 07:15 PM
Al is awesome.

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 07:22 PM
That's kind of my point. The "fire Haley" thing was meant to be sarcastic. I think Haley has been vital for our success, even though Weiss is the one who's been calling the plays. I just think it's easy to discount the role of the head coach and say it's all the coordinators.

I think the players responded to Cable, but he is a piss poor head coach. Motivating is one thing but being out coached and making the same mistakes over and over again is another. We will see if another team takes a flyer on him as a head coach~

patteeu
01-05-2011, 07:32 PM
I think the players responded to Cable, but he is a piss poor head coach. Motivating is one thing but being out coached and making the same mistakes over and over again is another. We will see if another team takes a flyer on him as a head coach~

Can you give some examples of how he was out coached or what kinds of mistakes he made over and over?

RedNeckRaider
01-05-2011, 07:42 PM
Can you give some examples of how he was out coached or what kinds of mistakes he made over and over?

I am on my phone and have typed more than I want to already. His time outs are burned alarmingly often. Watch the Miami, Cardnials, Colts, and Jags games.

Frankie
01-05-2011, 07:45 PM
Hey - I expect Raider-bashing on a Chiefs board... its the most natural thing in the world. And there's plenty of valid reason to bash. But this thing about Cable being the reason for OAK's near-success is just silly. His title may have changed from "Interim Head Coach" to "Head Coach" for a season, but he was still just interim. If he were a real HC, other teams would be considering him. I guess the philosophy is "He's not good enough for other NFL teams, but he's the best thing for the Raiders."

I don't know how good an offensive mind Jackson is, but I think Cable should be credited for having the Raiders up and ready to play almost every week. That's the element we here think your team will be missing.

milkman
01-05-2011, 08:49 PM
Rival fans are glad to see the Chiefs win the division and make the playoffs with a team that is not that strong. Because history shows the Hunt family only cares about filled seats. This will get season ticket holders to reup and get the seats full. That will be enough to keep Clark content~

That history only applies to Lamar Hunt.

Clark Hunt got pissed with Carl's ineptitude and fired him, which lead to sweeping changes in the front office on the coaching front.

KC Tattoo
01-05-2011, 09:16 PM
Shane Lechler rips AL Davis a new one....

http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=Tl26x644SQhefTRKgjfu8GpDku9X7469

This!! :LOL: This is what you get Fraiders from Al Davis. I'm sure your punter isn't the only player for your team that is upset. This is going to have major back lash I'm sure for the team. Another coach gone and credibility out the window. Cable was getting the team riled up for games like he did against us. I think Cable is going to be very hard to replace with a respected HC to replace him. Cable was building stability with your team and continuety(sp) that's something the Fraiders havn't had in many years and now you have to start all over, even if it's with your OC taking over. I think Cable will land on his feet somewhere, he will have credit for improving the fraiders each year he was there withstanding Al Davis.

S&BJW
01-05-2011, 09:23 PM
Can you give some examples of how he was out coached or what kinds of mistakes he made over and over?
Clock and timeout management
.
Poor game plans againts the NFC west
.
Played Grads over Campbell 1 too many times
.


At the end of the day, you simply cannot make promises to Al Davis and then not deliver. Cable promised 4 things and didn’t deliver on 1 of them. He promised to win the division, make the playoffs, reduce the penalties and improve the run defense.

In the end they didn’t win the division, missed the playoffs. Despite all the efforts made to correct the penalty situation it got significantly worse going from 53.1 yards per game to 79.8 yards per game. Finally, the rush defense which was supposedly going to be a much improved dropped from 28′th in rush defense in 2009 to 29′th in 2010.

Tom Cable’s specialty was supposed to be coaching the offensive line, but their pass blocking simply did not improve enough yielding 5 less sacks, in 2009 they gave up 49 sacks out of 485 attempts while giving up 44 out of 491 attempts.

milkman
01-05-2011, 09:24 PM
This!! :LOL: This is what you get Fraiders from Al Davis. I'm sure your punter isn't the only player for your team that is upset. This is going to have major back lash I'm sure for the team. Another coach gone and credibility out the window. Cable was getting the team riled up for games like he did against us. I think Cable is going to be very hard to replace with a respected HC to replace him. Cable was building stability with your team and continuety(sp) that's something the Fraiders havn't had in many years and now you have to start all over, even if it's with your OC taking over. I think Cable will land on his feet somewhere, he will have credit for improving the fraiders each year he was there withstanding Al Davis.

We all know you can't spell, you've apologized for poor spelling enough times that we get it.

That is no longer needed.

Just post what you have on your mind, and we'll all get over the spelling.

KC Tattoo
01-05-2011, 09:27 PM
We all know you can't spell, you've apologized for poor spelling enough times that we get it.

That is no longer needed.

Just post what you have on your mind, and we'll all get over the spelling.

Well all righty then.

Ugly Duck
01-05-2011, 11:12 PM
I think Cable will land on his feet somewhere

You're a cool guy, Luke. But you're also the only person I've heard of that believes Tom Cable would be a head coach on any other team but Oakland.

KC Tattoo
01-05-2011, 11:22 PM
You're a cool guy, Luke. But you're also the only person I've heard of that believes Tom Cable would be a head coach on any other team but Oakland.

I'm just happy he is out of Oakland, think he brought in stability for a change if he would have stayed. That's not going to go over well with the players on the team & thats what your punter was talking about. Out of the AFCW I though Tom Cable was would bring us the biggest compitition year in and year out. Now he is gone sweet. Norv is a blundering idiot and who knows who the Donks will bring in. Cable may go to the college level but I'm sure he isn't done as a head coach. Cable gets credibility just to with stand having the Crypt Keeper as GM/owner. He was improving the raiders each year, it just didn't happen quick enough for Al.

patteeu
01-08-2011, 07:33 AM
Well[,] all righty then.

You left out a comma.

Rausch
01-08-2011, 07:40 AM
You're a cool guy, Luke. But you're also the only person I've heard of that believes Tom Cable would be a head coach on any other team but Oakland.

Nope.

I think you're fucking retarded for firing a HC who not only went undefeated in the division but COMPLETELY BLEW OUT each division team at least once. And they PUNKED the high and mighty Chargers two fucking times.

You + a legit QB and - AL Davis = a team that could compete for a super bowl...

Rausch
01-08-2011, 07:44 AM
OAK doesn't have to rebuild cuz Hue Jackson will still be calling the plays as HC.

You won't have to rebuild because there's a ton of talent in Oakland.

RedNeckRaider
01-08-2011, 07:54 AM
Nope.

I think you're ****ing retarded for firing a HC who not only went undefeated in the division but COMPLETELY BLEW OUT each division team at least once. And they PUNKED the high and mighty Chargers two ****ing times.

You + a legit QB and - AL Davis = a team that could compete for a super bowl...

Not with Cable as coach and the -AL Davis part is the reason they are stuck with coaches like Cable. I am stunned anyone who has watched Cable bungle...err...coach thinks he is anything more than the guy standing on the sidelines watching a team win sometimes in spite of him~

Rausch
01-08-2011, 07:56 AM
Not with Cable as coach and the -AL Davis part is the reason they are stuck with coaches like Cable. I am stunned anyone who has watched Cable bungle...err...coach thinks he is anything more than the guy standing on the sidelines watching a team win sometimes in spite of him~

How long has Cable been the HC?

RedNeckRaider
01-08-2011, 07:59 AM
How long has Cable been the HC?

Replaced Kiffen as intern later given the title of head puppett~

Over-Head
01-08-2011, 08:09 AM
Nope.

I think you're ****ing retarded for firing a HC who not only went undefeated in the division but COMPLETELY BLEW OUT each division team at least once. And they PUNKED the high and mighty Chargers two ****ing times.

You + a legit QB and - AL Davis = a team that could compete for a super bowl...
THIS:thumb:

Over-Head
01-08-2011, 08:10 AM
You won't have to rebuild because there's a ton of talent in Oakland.
Too bad we can't find someone who can help "unleash" it

Over-Head
01-08-2011, 08:12 AM
Replaced Kiffen as intern later given the title of head puppett~
What I don't understand, is why Al don't just take his crypt to teh sidelines and just scream at the players himself....he figures NO ONE can do a descent job (last one he had punked him out the following year in a SB slaughter) so why not give it "another" whirl???
After all, he has been a coach :banghead:

Over-Head
01-08-2011, 08:14 AM
Cable had very little to do with assembling the team. And as far as the Haley thing I am not so sure Weiss would not be a better head coah for you guys. I think most of the success KC had this year was due to the OC and DC. Haley deserves credit for hiring them... if it was his call~
BUT!!!
He was dead on about JaFattAzz, and NOT wanting Al to take him

TheGuardian
01-08-2011, 08:14 AM
Nope.

I think you're ****ing retarded for firing a HC who not only went undefeated in the division but COMPLETELY BLEW OUT each division team at least once. And they PUNKED the high and mighty Chargers two ****ing times.

You + a legit QB and - AL Davis = a team that could compete for a super bowl...

OMG hardly.

Cable went 6-0 in the division. Familiar opponents. Against teams he had to actually COACH against, and figure out, he went 2-8.

When you look at 2009, he only won 2 divisional games but if you look closely he played every game super close but 1. He could easily have went 5-1 in the division LAST YEAR.

Against the rest of the league in 09? He won 3 games. Usually getting blown out badly.

6-29 against Houston
7-44 against Giants
0-38 against the Jets
7-24 against the Cowboys
9-23 against Cleveland

This year didn't look a lot different....

13-38 against the Titans
3-35 against the Steelers
17-33 against Miami
26-31 against the Colts with a late garbage time touchdown

He won 5 games against non-divisional opponents in two seasons. That is NOT good coaching. He went undefeated in the division this year in a year where the Donkeys fired their coach in the middle of the season and the Chargers went 9-7 and we had everything locked up in the last game of the season. Good for him. But this whole "Tom Cable is a good/great coach" is just hilarious shit. The guy is NOT. When you go 5-16 against the rest of the league over two years you can't coach for shit. End of discussion.

Chiefnj2
01-08-2011, 08:17 AM
OMG hardly.

Cable went 6-0 in the division. Familiar opponents. Against teams he had to actually COACH against, and figure out, he went 2-8.

.

You don't have to coach against and figure out your divisional opponents?

Over-Head
01-08-2011, 08:18 AM
When you go 5-16 against the rest of the league over two years you can't coach for shit. End of discussion.
While I do agree with all your stats, I have always said, (and still do) if Bitchey OVERPAID millionaires WONT do their ****en jobs (on ANY TEAM) how is it "ALL" of the coaches problem???

Other than that, he was a tool.
We had the comparable tallent Norv has/had in SD, yet Norve couldn't do shit in Oakland...now it would seem he can't do shit in SD anymore either....go figure

Over-Head
01-08-2011, 08:21 AM
You don't have to coach against and figure out your divisional opponents?
Apparently NOT in the AFCW ;)

TheGuardian
01-08-2011, 08:21 AM
You don't have to coach against and figure out your divisional opponents?

Not as much because of coaching tendencies and familiarity with players. Cable did a good job of working within in the division. Outside of the division the guy couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

RedNeckRaider
01-08-2011, 08:24 AM
While I do agree with all your stats, I have always said, (and still do) if Bitchey OVERPAID millionaires WONT do their ****en jobs (on ANY TEAM) how is it "ALL" of the coaches problem???

Other than that, he was a tool we had the comparable tallent Norv had in SD, yet Norve couldn't do shit in Oakland...now it would seem he can't do shit in SD anymore either

If Oakland had a even average abilty coach this year they would be in the playoffs. Anyone who thinks this guy can coach does not follow Oakland or knows very little about football~

Rausch
01-08-2011, 08:31 AM
When you go 5-16 against the rest of the league over two years you can't coach for shit. End of discussion.

The Chiefs (and Haley/Pioli) have won 3 more games than the Raiders (and Cable/AL) over the last two years.

In two years the Chiefs are 3 wins greater than the Raiders.

In that time the Raiders have also won more division games. Note: division games are your most important games, followed by conference games.

IMO it's a fluke year. The Faiders deserve to be in the playoffs and the Seahawks don't...

Rausch
01-08-2011, 08:32 AM
If Oakland had a even average abilty coach this year they would be in the playoffs. Anyone who thinks this guy can coach does not follow Oakland or knows very little about football~

Anyone who thinks you can win a division title with any QB on Oakland's roster is huffing gold paint from a brown bag...

TheGuardian
01-08-2011, 08:37 AM
The Chiefs (and Haley/Pioli) have won 3 more games than the Raiders (and Cable/AL) over the last two years.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? There is a big difference in 8-8 and 10-6, esp when the division is wrapped up for the last game of the season.


In two years the Chiefs are 3 wins greater than the Raiders.


3 wins is the difference between 8-8 and 11-5. That's kinda big. And pointless at the same time. Cable wasn't a good coach.


In that time the Raiders have also won more division games. Note: division games are your most important games, followed by conference games.

IMO it's a fluke year. The Faiders deserve to be in the playoffs and the Seahawks don't...

The Faiders don't deserve to be in the playoffs because they went undefeated in the division. That's utterly stupid. They went 2-8 the rest of the way. The non-division games matter too in case no one had informed you.

RedNeckRaider
01-08-2011, 08:47 AM
The Chiefs (and Haley/Pioli) have won 3 more games than the Raiders (and Cable/AL) over the last two years.

In two years the Chiefs are 3 wins greater than the Raiders.

In that time the Raiders have also won more division games. Note: division games are your most important games, followed by conference games.

IMO it's a fluke year. The Faiders deserve to be in the playoffs and the Seahawks don't...

I would say many agree there are teams that deserve to be in the playoffs besides Seattle. I do not think Oakland is next in line though. Everyone keeps bringing up swept the west. For years you had to win 8 games to sweep a division and I would fancy a bet other teams have won 6 division games and missed the show. The first Chargers game and the first Chiefs game could and most likely should have been losses. I think Oakland had better talent than KC this year and coaching was the difference between playoffs and sour grapes~

TheGuardian
01-08-2011, 09:03 AM
Oakland has more talent? No.

Chiefs linebackers > Oaklands We should have had two pro bowlers in Hali and Johnson, and both were alternates.

Our secondary is better from top to bottom.

Your defensive line is better, but it's also a 4 man front, not a 3.

We should have had Lilja in the pro bowl and in pass blocking we are better, however you wouldn't have known it from the last game.

Cassel > Campbell

Charles > McFadden

Bowe >>>>>>>>> Anything the Raiders have.

So where are the Raiders more talented? This is a myth and has been for a while.

ChiefsNow
01-08-2011, 09:20 AM
The Raiders just FIRED their reason for improvement this year.

Rausch
01-08-2011, 09:29 AM
I think Oakland had better talent than KC this year and coaching was the difference between playoffs and sour grapes~

You have no QB.

No one on your roster should even be considered a QBOTF.

Even in wins your QB play has been average, at best.

That factor plus the fact that at any point (Free agents, draft picks, trades, offensive/defensive philosophy etc) your owner steps in and tells the HC to shut teh fug up lends me to have sympathy for Cable.

The list of former Raider coaches that were fired and went on to do well is long.

I can think of Shanny and Gruden (both won super bowls after leaving) off the top of my head.

Rausch
01-08-2011, 09:31 AM
The Raiders just FIRED their reason for improvement this year.

Yup.

And the Chargers kept their ankle weight.

The future is bright in KC...:)

Ugly Duck
01-08-2011, 10:15 AM
3 wins (over two years) is the difference between 8-8 and 11-5.

3 wins (over two years) is the difference between 8-8 and 9.5-6.5

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 10:24 AM
I love it when the Chiefs have their chests all pushed out and acting all cocky, after tomorrow, their chest will be back to normal and their shit will be pushed in.

TheGuardian
01-08-2011, 10:26 AM
3 wins (over two years) is the difference between 8-8 and 9.5-6.5

Meh, it's really a useless stat and apples and oranges. Cable took over a program he had been in. Haley came in with new management, has hired a new coaching staff, put in new schemes, etc. AS I noted, Cable actually could have went 5-1 in the division last year with a break here or there. He was familiar with the division and players. That makes scouting and breaking down film and game prep easier. Against non divisional opponents the guy got his ass handed to him BADLY, more often than not.

It's a bittersweet thing for Chief fans IMO. Cable showed he could win within the division, however he was never going to win a lot of games because well, the guy just isn't a good coach. Davis wants Jackson over Cable. That's probably a good choice for him.

TheGuardian
01-08-2011, 10:26 AM
I love it when the Chiefs have their chests all pushed out and acting all cocky, after tomorrow, their chest will be back to normal and their shit will be pushed in.

Kinda like how the Raiders have lived for almost a decade now.

Rausch
01-08-2011, 10:32 AM
The Faiders don't deserve to be in the playoffs because they went undefeated in the division. That's utterly stupid. They went 2-8 the rest of the way. The non-division games matter too in case no one had informed you.

Ok, I'm sorry I ignored you.

We still go by overall record for seeding.

YES, that means all games go into the equation.

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 10:51 AM
Kinda like how the Raiders have lived for almost a decade now.

Yup about 8 years since we went to the playoffs and or a Superbowl
btw when was the last playoff game the Chiefs won?
How bout when was the last time visit, victory or sniff?

Be proud that you are in the playoffs, I would be...your Chiefs deserve to be there even if you are not the best team in the West... Rules are rules though...

Rausch
01-08-2011, 11:04 AM
Be proud that you are in the playoffs, I would be...your Chiefs deserve to be there even if you are not the best team in the West... Rules are rules though...

Exactly what I would say if I was a Raider fan.

And despite the clear weaknesses in Cable's game I'd hire people to support him (since he did just brutally PUNK the whole division) instead of dumping him on his head.

KC Tattoo
01-08-2011, 11:17 AM
I love it when the Chiefs have their chests all pushed out and acting all cocky, after tomorrow, their chest will be back to normal and their shit will be pushed in.

Chiefs fans have plenty to be happy about even if a loss. We are an up and comming team. More to look forward to for this decade than any other team in the division has to look forward too. You don't even have a head coach. What direction are the Fraiders heading? no first round pick in 2011 draft. We got a young team that is on the rise. Playoff experience going into next season. We may/may not do well against the Ravens but I'l take a playoff game vs. staying home. I think we will play good against them. My expectations all along this season, have been to get better, win the division and hope for the best. We done that so far.

Fraiders players arn't happy with the coaching change, they got to start all over again. Coach Cable made that team competitive again and now he is out the door. Alla Davis lmao

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 11:19 AM
Exactly what I would say if I was a Raider fan.

And despite the clear weaknesses in Cable's game I'd hire people to support him (since he did just brutally PUNK the whole division) instead of dumping him on his head.

You are only saying that because Cable was let go, if Hue Jackson had been let go you would say that he was the reason for sweeping the west....


Hue Jackson is the main reason of our turnaround, we went from one of the most dismal scoring offenses to one of the better ones in the NFL...

Wait until next year, you will soon realize how much a great OC means to a team.

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 11:20 AM
Chiefs fans have plenty to be happy about even if a loss. We are an up and comming team. More to look forward to for this decade than any other team in the division has to look forward too. You don't even have a head coach. What direction are the Fraiders heading? no first round pick in 2011 draft. We got a young team that is on the rise. Playoff experience going into next season. We may/may not do well against the Ravens but I'l take a playoff game vs. staying home. I think we will play good against them. My expectations all along this season, have been to get better, win the division and hope for the best. We done that so far.

Fraiders players arn't happy with the coaching change, they got to start all over again. Coach Cable made that team competitive again and now he is out the door. Alla Davis lmao

You know as well as anyone Hue Jackson is going to be the Raiders next coach.

Saul Good
01-08-2011, 11:21 AM
Yup about 8 years since we went to the playoffs and or a Superbowl
btw when was the last playoff game the Chiefs won?
How bout when was the last time visit, victory or sniff?

Be proud that you are in the playoffs, I would be...your Chiefs deserve to be there even if you are not the best team in the West... Rules are rules though...

The Chiefs were in first place for 17 weeks. I guess some other team was better, though.

Brock
01-08-2011, 11:22 AM
You know as well as anyone Hue Jackson is going to be the Raiders next coach.

Good luck with that. I remember how you guys were happy Mike White was replacing Joe Bugel.

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 11:22 AM
The Chiefs were in first place for 17 weeks. I guess some other team was better, though.

Did I miss the answer to the questions I asked?

Saul Good
01-08-2011, 11:22 AM
Other than having no coach and no QB, the Raiders are all set.

Saul Good
01-08-2011, 11:24 AM
Did I miss the answer to the questions I asked?

I really couldn't care less. The Royals have won the World Series more recently than the Raiders have won a Super Bowl. Your rings aren't exactly shiny.

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 11:25 AM
Good luck with that. I remember how you guys were happy Mike White was replacing Joe Bugel.

You people of all people should know by now how Al does things... Al picks the staff, not the head coach... That is basically why the Raiders have not done well in the past few years, sure Al picks right every now and then and gets a good combo of coaches but that is usually our weakness..

The problem with big time coaches is that next year they are wanted by other teams and are gone anyway....

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 11:25 AM
I really couldn't care less. The Royals have won the World Series more recently than the Raiders have won a Super Bowl. Your rings aren't exactly shiny.

Did I miss the answer to the questions I asked or are you typing with invisible ink?

CupidStunt
01-08-2011, 11:27 AM
Other than having no coach and no QB, the Raiders are all set.

Nevermind no 1st round pick, and 2 of their 3 best players (Miller, Seymour) being FAs.

Oh, and Al Davis is still the owner.

Saul Good
01-08-2011, 11:27 AM
Did I miss the answer to the questions I asked or are you typing with invisible ink?

Enjoy basketball season.

DBOSHO
01-08-2011, 11:28 AM
See the problem with r8ers argument is that they wouldnt be playing an afc west team every playoff week. Congrats. You sweeped the division. Can you beat anybody else outside of it? No.

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 11:28 AM
Other than having no coach and no QB, the Raiders are all set.

Campbell QB rating was 84 last year and scoring was not a problem...

Our QB is not the problem in Oakland... Would I like a better one? Sure I would... but he is not by any means a terrible QB, basically an average QB

KC Tattoo
01-08-2011, 11:29 AM
You know as well as anyone Hue Jackson is going to be the Raiders next coach.

This is about the best KnowMo answer you can come up with. He must be the cream of the crop. Did you not listen to your punter?? Your players are upset about this & they don't want to go through yet another coaching change for HC. Good luck. Ofcourse he may be there at the top of next years draft, your going to need him.

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 11:31 AM
This is about the best KnowMo answer you can come up with. He must be the cream of the crop. Did you not listen to your punter?? Your players are upset about this & they don't want to go through yet another coaching change for HC. Good luck. Ofcourse he may be there at the top of next years draft, your going to need him.

Once the players get their check, feelings are forgotten...

I remember when Herm was fired, he had locker room support too so whats your point?

KC Tattoo
01-08-2011, 11:32 AM
& Richard Seymore is no spring chicken. He had trouble staying on the field from eather injury or personal issues. No first round pick in this years draft.

CupidStunt
01-08-2011, 11:33 AM
Campbell QB rating was 84 last year

http://www.jeffcaceres.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/homer_woohoo.jpg

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 11:35 AM
& Richard Seymore is no spring chicken. He had trouble staying on the field from eather injury or personal issues. No first round pick in this years draft.

I said it the day it happened that Richard was worth the pick for the Raiders.. The Raiders are only a couple of players away from making a legit run in the playoffs (not a cameo like you guys tomorrow but a legit run LMAO)

KC Tattoo
01-08-2011, 11:36 AM
Once the players get their check, feelings are forgotten...

I remember when Herm was fired, he had locker room support too so whats your point?

Just keep spinning around in your little Fraider world, KnoMo. With Pioli as GM the players knew every thing was about to change for the better. With Al Duface its constant change & no direction.

Rausch
01-08-2011, 11:38 AM
I said it the day it happened that Richard was worth the pick for the Raiders.. The Raiders are only a couple of players away from making a legit run in the playoffs

Agreed.

Well, before you fired your HC.

He brought back all that was Raider, even if it wasn't the downfield passing game and high scoring and......frankly, what the Crypt keeper wants.

DBOSHO
01-08-2011, 11:39 AM
I said it the day it happened that Richard was worth the pick for the Raiders.. The Raiders are only a couple of players away from making a legit run in the playoffs (not a cameo like you guys tomorrow but a legit run LMAO)

Chiefs wins outside the division-8

Raiders wins outside the division-2

Yep, you guys are about to get serious.

Brock
01-08-2011, 11:39 AM
I said it the day it happened that Richard was worth the pick for the Raiders.. The Raiders are only a couple of players away from making a legit run in the playoffs (not a cameo like you guys tomorrow but a legit run LMAO)

Worth a first round pick? :LOL:

Rausch
01-08-2011, 11:41 AM
Worth a first round pick? :LOL:

Uh, yeah...

KC Tattoo
01-08-2011, 11:41 AM
I said it the day it happened that Richard was worth the pick for the Raiders.. The Raiders are only a couple of players away from making a legit run in the playoffs (not a cameo like you guys tomorrow but a legit run LMAO)

It's not about this year, it's about building a team for a long duration that is year in year out continders. We had no Super Bowl expectations this year. You put your eggs in one basket getting Seymore & he fails to deliver a Super Bowl sets you back years to come, because you gave up a first round pick. So your going to win the Super Bowl next year? Bewa ha ha ha ha ha ha

KC Tattoo
01-08-2011, 11:42 AM
Worth a first round pick? :LOL:

It's kind of hard to win a Super Bowl not going to the playoffs. But this Fraider fan must think they have a chance.

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 11:42 AM
Guys... Feel proud, Feel good, play grab ass with cousin in the trailer park, it's no doubt party time at the trailer park tonite....

Enjoy your playoff appearance....

Ravens 41 Chiefs 10

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 11:43 AM
It's not about this year, it's about building a team for a long duration that is year in year out continders. We had no Super Bowl expectations this year. You put your eggs in one basket getting Seymore & he fails to deliver a Super Bowl sets you back years to come, because you gave up a first round pick. So your going to win the Super Bowl next year? Bewa ha ha ha ha ha ha

Dude the thing that set the Raiders back was Jamarcus not Seymour

KC Tattoo
01-08-2011, 11:48 AM
Dude the thing that set the Raiders back was Jamarcus not Seymour

Seymore butts, didn't set you back no. He didn't set you up for long term future success either, so in a way yea he set you back for that. If you fail next year with him, not good not good for you guys. What ever enjoy.

Rausch
01-08-2011, 11:57 AM
Dude the thing that set the Raiders back was Jamarcus not Seymour

This.

Seymour is why we got our $hit pushed in...

DenverDanChiefsFan
01-08-2011, 12:01 PM
This.

Seymour is why we got our $hit pushed in...Um, no. He didn't play in the 2nd game. We didn't "get our shit pushed in" the first game.:spock:

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 12:04 PM
Seymore butts, didn't set you back no. He didn't set you up for long term future success either, so in a way yea he set you back for that. If you fail next year with him, not good not good for you guys. What ever enjoy.

There is no guarantee of any player at anytime in the NFL..

I will take a step slow Vet with 5 years left over a rookie that you have to develop for 2 years then when he is ready to play at a top level he busts his ass, does great and becomes a free agent the next year.

The Raiders have plenty of young talent and I would like to have seymour and the first round pick but I want a couple good free agents this year and a RT and maybe a McNabb in FA, would also like a corner opposite Aso

Rausch
01-08-2011, 12:09 PM
Um, no. He didn't play in the 2nd game. We didn't "get our shit pushed in" the first game.:spock:

I stand corrected.

He was not why we got sodomized week 17.

In fact, knowing that he wasn't even out there makes me feel so much better about the performance of our offense and our ability to play a physical front 4/front 3 that can apply pressure...

Pablo
01-08-2011, 12:15 PM
Chiefs wins outside the division-8

Raiders wins outside the division-2

Yep, you guys are about to get serious.Hey, once they start letting you play division opponents for the playoffs, the Fade will be UNSTOPPABLE.

CupidStunt
01-08-2011, 12:21 PM
The Raiders are only a couple of players away from making a legit run in the playoffs

Yes, quality QBs DO grow on trees, don't they? Especially after the 1st round, which the Raiders will be sleeping through. LMAO

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 12:22 PM
Yes, quality QBs DO grow on trees, don't they? Especially after the 1st round, which the Raiders will be sleeping through. LMAO
There is no guarantee you will even get a Quality QB in round 1 ....
Gimme a vet like a Rich Gannon and you can keep them rookie punks

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 12:23 PM
Oh and by the way, just because you pay Cassell like a quality QB does not mean he is one... sure he is ok but nothing special

CupidStunt
01-08-2011, 12:26 PM
Gimme a vet like a Rich Gannon

Lots of them going around. And they'll all want to play for Oakland. :facepalm:

Besides, the Raiders are stuck with Campbell. You realize that, right? Old man Davis has wood for him. Good luck!

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 12:32 PM
Lots of them going around. And they'll all want to play for Oakland. :facepalm:

Besides, the Raiders are stuck with Campbell. You realize that, right? Old man Davis has wood for him. Good luck!

Yea, nobody wants to play for Oakland, that's what you guys have been saying forever... keep telling yourself that

Brock
01-08-2011, 12:34 PM
Uh, yeah...

Uh, how....

KC Tattoo
01-08-2011, 12:37 PM
Oh and by the way, just because you pay Cassell like a quality QB does not mean he is one... sure he is ok but nothing special

I just asume drafting a QB, ever since the Joe freaking Montana episode I've been clammoring for the Chiefs to draft a QBotf. Cassel can get us by for now, he isn't a spring chicken either. He has shown he can play, but I want him to be consistant with his throws. I love the draft and believe in building a championship team through the draft. Trading picks for players isn't what I like so much & I don't care for high price FA. Yea got to have veteran leadership, but for the young guys it tends to take away valuable playing time that gives them experience.

I'd rather watch the Studebaker than Vrabel.

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 12:49 PM
I just asume drafting a QB, ever since the Joe freaking Montana episode I've been clammoring for the Chiefs to draft a QBotf. Cassel can get us by for now, he isn't a spring chicken either. He has shown he can play, but I want him to be consistant with his throws. I love the draft and believe in building a championship team through the draft. Trading picks for players isn't what I like so much & I don't care for high price FA. Yea got to have veteran leadership, but for the young guys it tends to take away valuable playing time that gives them experience.

I'd rather watch the Studebaker than Vrabel.

Raiders always have and always will suck at drafting a QB, Cassel is a game manager that moves around pretty good and has a quick delivery... He is a better System QB than Campbell is but he is also alot more expensive...

The Chiefs really excelled in coaching this year, lots of experience and that experience enabled you guys to win the ones that could have gone either way and that was the difference in the West... The Raiders were unable to win those games that could have gone either way...

There is a price to pay for that success though... Weis is gone, and he is no slouch... Turning the Chiefs around will make many of your staff vulnerable this year....

I give you guys alot of shit just because it's fun, but I really don't think you guys go past tomorrow....

I can promise you one thing though.... it hurts less to lose in the first round than in the SB :spock:

Ugly Duck
01-08-2011, 01:52 PM
Did you not listen to your punter??

Luke's got a point there... When a team does not listen to the punter, bad things happen.

KC Tattoo
01-08-2011, 01:59 PM
Luke's got a point there... When a team does not listen to the punter, bad things happen.

Yea that's funny. The reallity is he is voicing his opinion and it's probly the same as most of the raiders on the team. So punter or not he is part of a team that is tired of the same crap year after year with Al Davis

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 02:02 PM
Yea that's funny. The reallity is he is voicing his opinion and it's probly the same as most of the raiders on the team. So punter or not he is part of a team that is tired of the same crap year after year with Al Davis

Dude take your hater glasses off and quit posting stupid assumptions, you are that one dumbass fan that makes a whole teams fanbase look bad.

RedNeckRaider
01-08-2011, 02:03 PM
You have no QB.

No one on your roster should even be considered a QBOTF.

Even in wins your QB play has been average, at best.

That factor plus the fact that at any point (Free agents, draft picks, trades, offensive/defensive philosophy etc) your owner steps in and tells the HC to shut teh fug up lends me to have sympathy for Cable.

The list of former Raider coaches that were fired and went on to do well is long.

I can think of Shanny and Gruden (both won super bowls after leaving) off the top of my head.

Gruden took over a great team and played Oakland who he knew like the back of his hand. He later ran that great team into the ground and was run out of town. Mike White? Joe Bugel? Art Shell? Layne Kiffen? Norv Turner?
I do not hate Cable I just think he is a poor head coach. I think Campbell was stunted by the way he was handled and think he is as good a Cassell or better. We can agree to disagree I guess. I still think the difference between KC making the playoffs and Oakland not was coaching prue and simple~

TheGuardian
01-08-2011, 02:06 PM
I said it the day it happened that Richard was worth the pick for the Raiders.. The Raiders are only a couple of players away from making a legit run in the playoffs (not a cameo like you guys tomorrow but a legit run LMAO)

Every team is really only a few players away from making a run. With a great nose tackle and another pass rusher the Chiefs are making a legit run. Duh.

It's those "few players" that separate the teams like the Raiders, who don't have anything at QB, WR, linebacker, and secondary outside of Nnamid, from teams like the Pats and Steelers.

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 02:08 PM
Every team is really only a few players away from making a run. With a great nose tackle and another pass rusher the Chiefs are making a legit run. Duh.

It's those "few players" that separate the teams like the Raiders, who don't have anything at QB, WR, linebacker, and secondary outside of Nnamid, from teams like the Pats and Steelers.

Then that says a helluva lot about the 2010 Chiefs that the Raiders dominated.

TheGuardian
01-08-2011, 02:10 PM
Then that says a helluva lot about the 2010 Chiefs that the Raiders dominated.

If you want to believe that, go ahead.

A dropped pass away from a kneel down and in the second game when we had NOTHING to play for.

Yeah, good luck with that.

And the Chiefs are LOADED in talent compared to the Raiders.

Ugly Duck
01-08-2011, 02:10 PM
Every team is really only a few players away from making a run. With a great nose tackle and another pass rusher the Chiefs are making a legit run.

You're making a legit run right now. I remember when OAK won the Superbowl as a wildcard team. Any given Sunday...

Rausch
01-08-2011, 02:13 PM
I do not hate Cable I just think he is a poor head coach. I think Campbell was stunted by the way he was handled and think he is as good a Cassell or better.

Stop there.

Casshole has done an amazing job this year. He's done all that was asked of him and his final Girbac meter is yet to be determined.

That said, Campbell is by far the worst QB in the AFCW.

Not even close.

I have no clue, at all, why you want this man on your squad.



We can agree to disagree I guess.

As long as you're buying...:evil:

3rd&48ers
01-08-2011, 02:14 PM
You're making a legit run right now. I remember when OAK won the Superbowl as a wildcard team. Any given Sunday...

Quit pandering for the Rep points Duck, you know as well as I do they don't stand a snowballs chance in hell even if they win tomorrow...LMAO

TheGuardian
01-08-2011, 02:14 PM
You're making a legit run right now. I remember when OAK won the Superbowl as a wildcard team. Any given Sunday...

I think the lack of a good nose has made the run defense more vulnerable the last 4-5 weeks. We also need someone to keep offensive protection schemes honest instead of constantly rotating protection to Tamba's side.

That shores up the run defense and takes the pass defense to a new level. On offense we still need to upgrade at right tackle and center this offseason. I think Asomoah will be a good player soon.