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Deberg_1990
01-05-2011, 09:11 AM
Their offense doesnt sound so hot? Whats the problem? Flacco inconsistent? Ray Rice not explosive enough? WR's not explosive?



http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-preston-ravens-0105-20110104,0,5796997.column



They say what happens on the practice field transfers to the stadium on game day. If that's the case, then what is happening to the Ravens?

According to coach John Harbaugh, the Ravens are close to becoming an explosive offensive team because he has seen it on rare occasions during the season, and in practice as recently as last week.

Time for an eye exam, right?

Well, the NFL playoffs start this weekend, so it's the ideal time for the Ravens to have a productive offense and show some explosiveness.

But if you look closely at this team, this is a sensitive time. The lackluster offense is close to causing some division because a poor offense keeps gassing a good defense.

Fullback Le'Ron McClain voiced his displeasure earlier this week, and a defensive tackle complained about the offensive coordinator at halftime loud enough to be heard by other team officials.

Maybe veteran receiver Derrick Mason put it in perspective Sunday after the Ravens' 13-7 win over the Cincinnati Bengals.

"For us, we've just got to go out there and make it work," he said. "I guess that has to be the theme of the playoffs -- whatever is being called, we have to make it work. We can no longer point the finger.

"We've got to make it work as an offensive unit. There are no more excuses, because excuses are going to get you beat. The teams that make excuses are going to have to sit at home next week, so we can't make any more excuses. Whatever play is called, we've got to make it work, so you can't blame Cam [Cameron, offensive coordinator]. Whatever it is, we have to make it work."

Translation: There is no use complaining because the play-calling will remain the same and the Ravens are at the point in the season where few plays will be added to the playbook.

I like reading all these reports now that give praise to receivers Anquan Boldin and T.J. Houshmandzadeh for making a sacrifice because they are not getting the ball. That's funny.

I like hearing about how the Ravens have now turned into a running team heading into the first game of the postseason as if all those three-and-outs in the second half Sunday had been planned.

But the sad truth is that the Ravens still haven't learned how to operate this offense at full throttle, and it's starting to wear on this team.

After running back Ray Rice scored a 7-yard touchdown in the third quarter Sunday, safety Ed Reed was up in his face about getting the offense going.

Middle linebacker Ray Lewis' body language on the sideline Sundays often tells the story. He puts his head in his hands, showing disgust and disappointment.

After 15 years of hurling his body around in this league for the Ravens, they still can't find an offense that works. You're darn right, this has to be frustrating.

Harbaugh knows that's it's starting to be a strain, which is why he constantly reminds his team that it is 12-4. The players often repeat the words, but like us, they know better.

Against Cincinnati, the Ravens had only 199yards of offense and the Bengals had nearly a 10-minute advantage in time of possession.

In the past six weeks, the Ravens' offense has dropped from No.12 to No.22. While few want to talk about any potential internal problems, you have to wonder whether the strained relationship between quarterback Joe Flacco and Cameron has been a problem and why an offense filled with so much promise has regressed.

"Well, I think it has been displayed at times," Harbaugh said about the explosiveness. "I don't know if we've had four quarters of it, but there's been times where we scored over 30points, where we've scored three times in a row. There's been stretches where we've been unstoppable.

"So yeah, but I'm looking for that game, where we play the whole game that way. And that's what our players and coaches are looking for, too. So, if we want to win a championship, and I think the offense guys are saying that -- they feel like they need to play that way. And we support them."

As I mentioned several weeks ago, the Ravens win despite themselves. They have enough quality veterans like Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Reed, Mason, Boldin and Houshmandzadeh who can make enough plays to win most games.

That might be enough to get the Ravens to the Super Bowl, but it might not. Just in case, the Ravens want this offense to step up and match the effort of the defense and special teams.

It's about time, because the disappointment and frustration are beginning to show. The Ravens are walking a fine line right now, and if they cross it, the season might end as well.

Detoxing
01-05-2011, 09:20 AM
I still don't think their offense is a threat to our D, no matter how explosive Harbaugh thinks they may become.

The WR's aren't burners, their tackles are suspect and their running game has been fairly non-existant.

Im much more afraid of their D putting points up on us.

Chiefnj2
01-05-2011, 09:25 AM
It sounds as if the Chiefs can take the O out of it early in the game, they may implode.

Dante84
01-05-2011, 09:27 AM
hmm...

Time of Possession seems to be a key factor.

If it is a wet and snowy day, it will become a running battle.

For KC - If Dex and JC can hit the corners, we've got a solid chance. TJ and Battle can pound the middle if need be, even if only to take time off the clock and extend possessions, which limits Baltimore's chances on offense.

I think our D can handle their run - especially if its snowy and wet. There will be less passing plays, and their possession receivers will be even easier to stick to with the Brandon's. Guys like Berry, DJ, and Belcher will crush any thing that gets past the LOS.

Throw in an occasional Arenas blitz, and I think we might be in good shape.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-05-2011, 09:28 AM
They lack speed at WR, their running game has been suspect, they can't rush the passer on defense. I'm liking this matchup more and more as the week goes.

ReynardMuldrake
01-05-2011, 09:32 AM
If we can get to an early lead and make them play catch-up, we can take Rice out of the equation a little and put it on Flacco's shoulders. If the O-line shows up Sunday I really like our chances.

Dante84
01-05-2011, 09:34 AM
If we can get to an early lead and make them play catch-up, we can take Rice out of the equation a little and put it on Flacco's shoulders. If the O-line shows up Sunday I really like our chances.

Yep. I think we need a drive like we had in the Titan's game to start things off. That would really set the tone.

It's hard to catch up when it's wet and snowy if the run ain't working.

Wyndex
01-05-2011, 09:47 AM
You know at first I was rooting for the Jets because I really don't like them but when the dust settled I thought what the hell was my problem, we match up better against the Ravens. Like detoxing said they don't have burners, their best WR is a former Todd Haley pupil, Todd Haley is going to be in the secondary meetings giving them tips on covering Boldin, Cam Cameron had lots of success in San Diego....with Gates, Tomlinson, Brees then Rivers...he doesn't have that talent in Baltimore and this article sheds light that he may still call plays like it #justsayin, their offensive-line have allowed the 2nd most sacks in the NFL, Todd Heap has suffered 2* concussions this season, they're a power running team who does possess the ability to control the game...if we let them and seriously people hardly let them so we got that shit covered, in the few games I watched of them this season Joe Flacco is not an elite quarterback...he accepts sacks faster than Peyton Manning accepts Sony TV commercials, Ray Lewis is a force in the middle of course...we proved he can be neutralized, Suggs is the only pass rusher they have, Ngata is a ****ing man-bear-pig that can swallow 2 blockers easily, Johnson is a glorified DE that doesn't accomplish much other than outside containment which is rare for him, Gregg is a fatass, their corners are very different...you have Fabian Washington who is incredibly fast but not a big time physical corner and he doesn't even play 1 or 2, those are played by Josh Wilson and Cris Carr...neither of them match up against Bowe that well, Ed Reed brings the pain if we give him the opportunity and Landry is a hard hitter also but I hear he is nowhere near as good as his brother.

We can expect them to try to confused Cassel with blitz packages, sending Ed Reed as well

all in all **** Baltimore, we got this shit.

a wise man once said "Let's pound those pussies"

well god damn it let's get it

talastan
01-05-2011, 10:03 AM
The defining thing that the Chiefs need to do is remember this isn't the 2000 Ravens they are playing. They will try to be more physical at the LOS than us, just like the Raiders did. However we can't just lay down and take it. We need to come out of the gate with a fist to the face and our trenches need to just lock it up with these guys. Play with some fire along the lines and let your playmakers take care of the rest. The O-line and D-line performances are what will win or lose this game IMO.

RINGLEADER
01-05-2011, 10:05 AM
The more I looked into the Ravens the more I liked them as out first opponent. The only caveat is can Cassel overcome the man/8-in-the-box looks that they'll try to duplicate from the Raiders game? If he can beat those looks then I think we have a great shot to win this game.

The only teams they beat by more than one score were the Panthers (by 24), Dolphins (by 16), and Broncos (by 14). Their other 9 wins were by an average of less than 5.5 ppg. They just don't get up on people big (but they also don't lose big either -- their 4 losses were by 5, 3, 5, and 3 points.

So can the Chiefs win a close one against a top defense?

ReynardMuldrake
01-05-2011, 10:12 AM
The more I looked into the Ravens the more I liked them as out first opponent. The only caveat is can Cassel overcome the man/8-in-the-box looks that they'll try to duplicate from the Raiders game? If he can beat those looks then I think we have a great shot to win this game.

The only teams they beat by more than one score were the Panthers (by 24), Dolphins (by 16), and Broncos (by 14). Their other 9 wins were by an average of less than 5.5 ppg. They just don't get up on people big (but they also don't lose big either -- their 4 losses were by 5, 3, 5, and 3 points.

So can the Chiefs win a close one against a top defense?

I think the Raiders game will be deceptive from a scouting perspective. That could have been a preseason game for as much effort as we put into it. The Ravens will try the same gameplan and be surprised when it doesn't work. The Raiders game could well be a blessing in disguise.

At least that's my hope.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
01-05-2011, 10:18 AM
I'd wager even money the Raven defensive backs can not lock up the Chiefs receivers in man to man like the Raiders can. Not based on watching them this year.

alpha_omega
01-05-2011, 10:27 AM
Sounds like they have some internal problems. Good news!

B_Ambuehl
01-05-2011, 12:16 PM
a defensive tackle complained about the offensive coordinator at halftime loud enough to be heard by other team officials

This. The Ravens have absolutely zero diversity in their playcalling. Their passing game is nothing but 12 to 15 yd out routes off play action and they only use 2 plays in the run game. They have good enough players to make it semi-effective but there are a lot of yards being left out on the field by that offense.

52decleetzu
01-05-2011, 12:25 PM
Mike Preston = The Jason Whitlock of Baltimore.

Need I say more?

YayMike
01-05-2011, 01:25 PM
Mike Preston = The Jason Whitlock of Baltimore.

Need I say more?

THIS!

Agent V
01-05-2011, 01:48 PM
The defining thing that the Chiefs need to do is remember this isn't the 2000 Ravens they are playing. They will try to be more physical at the LOS than us, just like the Raiders did. However we can't just lay down and take it. We need to come out of the gate with a fist to the face and our trenches need to just lock it up with these guys. Play with some fire along the lines and let your playmakers take care of the rest. The O-line and D-line performances are what will win or lose this game IMO.

Plus, the crowd needs to make their presence known early and often, stalling a couple drives with one or two false start penalties.

If their offense really does sputter, I like our chances.

LOCOChief
01-05-2011, 02:09 PM
[QUOTE=Dante84;7323216]hmm...

For KC - If Dex and JC can hit the corners, we've got a solid chance. TJ and Battle can pound the middle if need be, even if only to take time off the clock and extend possessions, which limits Baltimore's chances on offense.

=QUOTE]


No TJ, Just JC.

BCD
01-05-2011, 03:23 PM
This could very likely be a 10-6 game.

talastan
01-05-2011, 03:28 PM
This could very likely be a 10-6 game.

As long as it is 10-6 with a KC win I'll be happy! :thumb:

No reason why we shouldn't keep this one competitive. With some luck and some passion; plus the full force of the 12th man of Arrowhead (like the Sandy Eggo game) we can get the W!!

Halfcan
01-05-2011, 03:32 PM
If the play calling is as predictable as it was against the Faders-we are in trouble.

Weis really cost us that game.

Zeke
01-05-2011, 03:44 PM
If the play calling is as predictable as it was against the Faders-we are in trouble.

Weis really cost us that game.

Weis wasn't missing every block, that was the O'Line.