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Count Alex's Losses
01-13-2011, 12:34 PM
Where is this guy gonna go? 2nd? I'd love to see the Chiefs take him.

6-1 245, which is less than ideal size for 3-4 OLB, I suppose...

Ripped from the Mane:

Has anyone watched this guy play? I've been reading up on him, and what I'm reading doesn't sound possible,let alone plausible, but I'm seeing this reported in multiple places on the net and nothing written to challenge it or refute it. What's more, the player himself confirms it. (video)

Dontay Moch, who plays DE in Nevada's four man line but is projected as an OLB in an NFL 3-4 defense...could be the fastest player in the history of the NFL draft this April. It's reported all over the web, which is why I don't know why we haven't been talking about him, but he reportedly ran a 4.18 forty for NFL scouts, followed by an insane 4.08 and then a 4.2 done back-to-back-to-back. That's not a typo, the scouts who timed him claim they timed him three times because they didn't believe their own eyes or their instruments, and they insist those were his times. They took the slowest of them and reported an offical 4.2.

By way of comparison, Bo Jackson's 4.19 I believe was the combine's fastest time ever recorded till now. I think Deon Sanders clocked close to 4.2 or something. Despite what we frequently hear, the number of guys who run in the 4.3 and below range is very rare. The fastest linebackers rarely break below 4.5. Patrick Peterson's reportedly clocked 4.3 flat and ran a laser timed 4.37 for scouts before last season. Nobody in the history of the NFL has ever clocked a 4.08 or 4.18. Certainly no linebacker has ever done anything remotely close to that. A 245 pound man running that fast is probably akin to a 325 pound nose tackle covering 40 yards in 4.5 seconds. That simply doesn't happen.

Now looking at his production...42 TFL the last two seasons, 63 for his career, which is the 6th highest total in NCAA history, 21 1/2 sacks his last two years, mostly while being double teamed. WAC Defensive Player of the Year. So far the few projections I've seen show him going in the 2nd or 3rd round. With that kind of speed and production, how could he possibly not go in the first round? If he's there at #36 and certainly at #46, how could we pas on him?

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http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0810/ncf_u_mochd_200.jpg

http://www.silverandbluesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Dontay-Moch-665-1.jpg

Nixhex
01-13-2011, 12:47 PM
Upon reading this article Al Davis jizzed in his depends

MagicHef
01-13-2011, 12:48 PM
Over/under on the number of "mach" related puns in headlines between now and the draft?

FAX
01-13-2011, 12:48 PM
Wow. A 4.08 forty.

That's like ... Moch 2.

FAX

DBOSHO
01-13-2011, 12:49 PM
I guarantee crazy al gives up his entire draft to get this guy.

Extra Point
01-13-2011, 12:51 PM
Over/under on the number of "mach" related puns in headlines between now and the draft?

Don't Moch this thread beyond its capabilities.

doomy3
01-13-2011, 12:51 PM
That is insane.

Count Alex's Losses
01-13-2011, 12:58 PM
This guy is basically the second coming of Jesus Curry...except that he can rush the passer.

talastan
01-13-2011, 01:09 PM
I guarantee crazy al gives up his entire draft to get this guy.

He'll have to if he wants to get high enough in the first to pick him up.

Remember Richard Seymour, Uncle Al? :LOL:

the Talking Can
01-13-2011, 01:11 PM
I'm picking this guy in my next moch draft

Sofa King
01-13-2011, 01:11 PM
what is this i don't even

DA_T_84
01-13-2011, 01:14 PM
Is he a team captain?

Short Leash Hootie
01-13-2011, 01:22 PM
Is he a team captain?

Nope.

http://www.nevadawolfpack.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10000&ATCLID=204983991

Move along.

philfree
01-13-2011, 01:26 PM
I'm thinking he would be a beast of a gunner.


PhilFree:arrow:

Amnorix
01-13-2011, 01:32 PM
I guarantee crazy al gives up his entire draft to get this guy.

Pats will give him his #1 back for this year's 2 and next year's 1 and 2. ROFL

Rain Man
01-13-2011, 01:33 PM
I bet he gets called for offsides before he even moves.

Frankie
01-13-2011, 02:01 PM
Seems Oakland fans want him too. ROFL

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keg in kc
01-13-2011, 02:03 PM
Jesus, that's nuts.

Braincase
01-13-2011, 02:10 PM
And Oaktown doesn't have a first round pick. :LOL:

Chiefnj2
01-13-2011, 02:56 PM
No way is he that fast. 4.78 maybe. He also gives up on plays.

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Wyndex
01-13-2011, 03:06 PM
state championship 04 and 05, also won state 200 meter in 05

Zeke
01-13-2011, 03:07 PM
watching those highlights doesn't do his speed any justice. And he looked to shy away from contact once a blocker was near him... I dunno, i'm no expert.

beach tribe
01-13-2011, 04:05 PM
No way is he that fast. 4.78 maybe. He also gives up on plays.

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Looks fast to me. Track speed is not going to translate 100%. But he looks fast.

chiefzilla1501
01-13-2011, 04:25 PM
Pretty damn fast. But the two questions I wonder are: 1) what is his 3-cone; 2) is he anything more than Hali's replacement? Because we probably don't want a speed guy coming off the left side. On that side of the ball, we need strength a lot more than we need speed.

baitism
01-13-2011, 04:42 PM
Did they use the Royals' radar gun to time him?

Totally not buying this. Maybe 4.4-4.45.

Starbux37
01-13-2011, 04:50 PM
I have watched this kid a few times live here in Reno and my son and myself have both commented how we would love to see him in a Chief's uniform next year. This kid gets it done and definitely a real contributor to the Wolfpack's 13-1 season this year!

By the way a real character guy as well who is willing to take time with fans and appreciative for the support from them.

californ
01-13-2011, 04:58 PM
Dj Skee did this DOPE piece with the KC Chiefs, as a fan of their squad i must say ive enjoyed it enough to watch it more than once. You should check it out if youre a football fan

tinyurl.com/4gctxy2

beach tribe
01-14-2011, 07:12 AM
Really cool.


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KC Tattoo
01-14-2011, 08:23 AM
Dj Skee did this DOPE piece with the KC Chiefs, as a fan of their squad i must say ive enjoyed it enough to watch it more than once. You should check it out if youre a football fan

tinyurl.com/4gctxy2

Good first post, cool!!! Welcome to Chiefs Planet

charlesjones
01-14-2011, 08:26 AM
so fast

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-14-2011, 08:35 AM
His speed has been a Bill Brasky type rumor for the last year or so. I'll admit I don't even remember him from when Mizzou played at Nevada in '09 and Gabbert broke his dick off in the Wolfpack defense to the tune of 400+ and 3 TDs.

mcan
01-14-2011, 08:45 AM
Rushing the passer isn't about your 40 time. Its about technique and quickness. Obviously the guy must be insanely quick off the line to get that time though. The one great thing about making hi? A linebacker is that he has defensive back-like speed. Last week was a painful reminder that we are NOT fast enough at LB nor Safety. Constantly getting burned by underneath crossing patterns.

CrazyHorse
01-14-2011, 09:07 AM
Rushing the passer isn't about your 40 time. Its about technique and quickness. Obviously the guy must be insanely quick off the line to get that time though. The one great thing about making hi? A linebacker is that he has defensive back-like speed. Last week was a painful reminder that we are NOT fast enough at LB nor Safety. Constantly getting burned by underneath crossing patterns.

We're fast enough at LBer. Just not good enough at LBer. We definately have sideline to sideline speed. But we use Hali for an ever down pass rusher. He would struggle to cover a TE anyway. He's definately not fast. But as a group overal we are pretty fast.

This guy definately fits the bill though as far as the type of LBer we could use on this team. Especially if he was double teamed and got over 20 sacks as they say.

If they project him in the second round though, there must be a part of his game that isnt tight.

Frankie
01-14-2011, 11:54 AM
Good first post, cool!!! Welcome to Chiefs Planet

You forgot to say, "... Now eat sh!t and die, n00b!" This is the Chiefs Planet, man.
;)




(Sorry californ. Just joking. Welcome aboard.)

eazyb81
01-14-2011, 12:06 PM
Pretty damn fast. But the two questions I wonder are: 1) what is his 3-cone; 2) is he anything more than Hali's replacement? Because we probably don't want a speed guy coming off the left side. On that side of the ball, we need strength a lot more than we need speed.

Yep, especially for the system Crennel runs that emphasizes larger LBs that are stout at the point of attack.

suzzer99
01-14-2011, 01:18 PM
I'm starting to wonder if Crennel's system doesn't rely heavily on a stellar offense to keep the pressure off the defense. Whatever SD, Pit and Balt are doing - I'd like to go with that as much as possible.

Bowser
01-14-2011, 01:19 PM
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'Hamas' Jenkins
01-14-2011, 01:21 PM
Yep, especially for the system Crennel runs that emphasizes larger LBs that are stout at the point of attack.

Which is why it's pretty fortunate that we fell ass over teakettle into Hali becoming an elite edge rushing OLB, because no one from the Belichick tree has run that system and ever drafted an edge rusher who was worth a damn.

Parcells hit with McGinest and Ware, but BB has mixed and matched his OLBs, or looked to FA with varying success.

Tribal Warfare
01-14-2011, 02:05 PM
Bullet Bob Hayes way back when would still smoke him. I bet he never ran a sub 9.0 in the 100 meters like Bob did

ChiefaRoo
01-14-2011, 02:07 PM
I heard this Moch kid ran down a Cheetah, bitch slapped it and then took it's freshly killed Gazelle.

milkman
01-14-2011, 02:12 PM
Bullet Bob Hayes way back when would still smoke him. I bet he never ran a sub 9.0 in the 100 meters like Bob did

:doh!:

Chief Chief
01-14-2011, 02:44 PM
I heard this Moch kid ran down a Cheetah, bitch slapped it and then took it's freshly killed Gazelle.

What was Josh McDaniels doing with a dead gazelle in the first place?

bowener
01-14-2011, 05:22 PM
If this kid drops 10 pounds do you think it would make him faster? I realize he probably can't cover for shit, but have him drop his weight to 235, and play one fast ****ing blitzing safety.

edit:

What kind of sucks about the Raiders trading away their 1st round pick is that they won't be able to draft this LBer in the 1st, and instead use their 2nd on him, and save themselves some money and some embarrassment.

Mi_chief_fan
01-14-2011, 07:26 PM
"I think Deon Sanders clocked close to 4.2 or something."

Wow, he's nearly as fast as Deion Sanders.