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Bugeater
03-20-2011, 04:12 PM
who is Slainte?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/member.php?u=7376&vmid=16407#vmessage16407

let me go hunt down that MFer!

I'll neg rep that worthless piece of chit into oblivion! :thumb:
LMAO You don't want to do that. What did he neg rep you for?

Dylan
03-20-2011, 04:15 PM
Ma Fa!! What's wrong with the Hendricks' cars?


smittysbar: "Kazowlowoskiesdjfrj around again" LOL

this... :D

Neg reps, seems to be a habit of his

Param
03-20-2011, 04:17 PM
Bristol sucks now anyway.

Ever since they paved the tracks and I think changed the banking/walls it kinda blows as a track now.

Dylan
03-20-2011, 04:18 PM
Cue kstater...

Bugeater
03-20-2011, 04:24 PM
Ever since they paved the tracks and I think changed the banking/walls it kinda blows as a track now.
Yep, everything that made it great is gone now.

Dylan
03-20-2011, 04:24 PM
Ever since they paved the tracks and I think changed the banking/walls it kinda blows as a track now.

you're right... they ruined Bristol

Al Bundy
03-20-2011, 04:27 PM
I'm strangely fascinated by Slainte and want to participate!

It's not for everyone! It's my go-to.

Just passive-aggressive enough.

What's wrong with that?

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/woman-with-knife.jpg

Dylan
03-20-2011, 04:31 PM
You're as bad as Noswad sometimes. Just don't start as many threads.

That's adorable, kstater. Try using the word "never" in your sentence.

Let's keep it real!

Bugeater
03-20-2011, 04:32 PM
That's adorable, kstater. Try using the word "never!"
IIRC, you've started two.

Dylan
03-20-2011, 04:34 PM
http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/woman-with-knife.jpg

LMAO

I'm in a rare mood! :thumb:

Dylan
03-20-2011, 04:43 PM
Where is Slainte?

Unless he just blew past my sarcasm detectors unnoticed. ... These are the days I regret not owning a rocket launcher.




gotta go The Real Housewives of Miami' on...

Old Dog
03-21-2011, 06:52 AM
Where is Slainte?

Unless he just blew past my sarcasm detectors unnoticed. ... These are the days I regret not owning a rocket launcher.


I had never noticed him until this thread Saturday night. He just seems like a first class prick to me.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=242941&page=3
He hit me 3 or 4 times in it

Old Dog
03-21-2011, 07:13 AM
Standings updated in OP

Dylan
03-23-2011, 08:36 PM
I can't believe Paul Menard sits 5th in the points standings.

2009: You can have your father buy your ride and write DEI a big check, but you can't buy talent. And that's what John Menard's been good at his whole life, is just buying success. He's bought his son a Nextel Cup ride and he's just got enough talent to just be in the way most of the time." --- Tony Stewart, after getting into Paul Menard on pit road in Fall 2007 Charlotte Cup race,

Tony Stewart's sentiment is the same amongst pretty much all NASCAR fans and drivers. I'm no different; just last year I was wondering when NASCAR can get rid of Paul Menard before he gets someone killed out there.


Current Article: Menard's empire continues to grow with success
Menard has his own fan club called "The Paul Menard Empire." Menard has always been a bit of a novelty in NASCAR, known more for his unique sideburns and the fact that he travels with his own sponsor than for his driving abilities. (Menard's car has long been sponsored by Menards, the home-improvement company owned by his father, John).

http://www.nascar.com/news/110321/jmenzer-pmenard-top-five-bristol/index.html

In 2009, Menard Inc. ranked 42nd[1] on Forbes' list of "America's Largest Private Companies."[2] The trade publication Home Channel News estimated 2007 sales at $8 billion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menards

Bugeater
03-23-2011, 08:44 PM
John Menard is a Grade A prick. Fuck him and anyone associated with him.

Dylan
03-23-2011, 08:48 PM
I downloaded Microsoft's new version of its web browser - IE 9. It is a significant improvement over previous versions -- it greatly improved the speed -- It's very fast. And there are no toolbars.

i'm not sure how to create a new tab. the last thing i want to do tonight is watch demos and video tutorials. Help!!!

what is all this? A video library? http://www.beautyoftheweb.com/#/experience/category/all/

Bugeater
03-23-2011, 08:49 PM
IE? Use Firefox FFS.

Dylan
03-23-2011, 08:52 PM
John Menard is a Grade A prick. **** him and anyone associated with him.

LMAO he has fans?


can somebody swing by my apt and help me setup IE 9? Please. .. HELP me - i'm too tired to fuss with it

Demonpenz
03-23-2011, 09:04 PM
alot of success in Nascar is just having a shitload of seat time.

Bugeater
03-23-2011, 09:06 PM
LMAO he has fans?


can somebody swing by my apt and help me setup IE 9? Please. .. HELP me - i'm too tired to fuss with it
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/new/

Do it. DO IT NOW.

Dylan
03-23-2011, 09:18 PM
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/new/

Do it. DO IT NOW.

But, but... Now I have a headache :D

Dylan
03-25-2011, 06:15 PM
They're killing off my Giants in "ChiefsPlanet's Most/Least Hated NFL Teams thread."

Can you help save them? ...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=243020

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-set?.out=jpg&id=IIBHw0su3hGvCrsWT1wfXA&size=l

Dylan
03-25-2011, 09:27 PM
Juan Pablo Montoya wins pole at Fontana

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/50/fullj.e81d88e4d8bb887142f59e47f26bc935/e81d88e4d8bb887142f59e47f26bc935-getty-110542667rr209_auto_club_40.jpg

Montoya wins the Coors Light Pole Award with a lap of 38.992 seconds, 184.653 mph.

Auto Club 400 Preview

The last time Auto Club Speedway hosted a Sprint Cup Series race it was by far the best in the track’s NASCAR history. Last October’s race featured side-by-side racing, four and five-wide packs down the backstretch and great battles not just at the front of but through the entire field.

Now the question becomes what can ACS do for an encore?

The Southern California track has been under seemingly constant pressure since it was first added to the NASCAR schedule to produce both better racing and attendance.

The two-mile track has more often than not generated strung out parades and strung out fields that don’t do much in the way of the excitement department.

That changed last fall for a couple of reasons. The decision to trim the race distance from 500 to 400 miles raised the intensity level dramatically. No longer able to simply make laps and save their machines until the end of the grind, drivers were forced to deal with a much faster-paced race and in turn most were up on the wheel all afternoon.

"A 400-mile race is going to be every bit as exciting, if not more, than a 500-mile race," said Tony Stewart, who went to victory lane in last October’s race. “I thought the racing last year was really good," he said. "The restarts early in the race were out of control. We were five-wide sometimes, and I know because I was one of them that put a bunch of guys five wide."

Source: CBS Sports

Dylan
03-25-2011, 10:03 PM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/ec/fullj.f53cf0453163dfbb47765b7f99e63bff/f53cf0453163dfbb47765b7f99e63bff-getty-110542667rr225_auto_club_40.jpg

Michael McDowell, driver of the #66 HP Racing Toyota

Cool looking helmet!


<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8iQFoRoaKfs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Watch this crash: In 2008 in Texas Motor Speedway, Michael McDowell, who was a rookie got loose in a turn during qualifying and smacked head on in the wall and flipped seven or eight times. Truly a miracle McDowell got out and walked away with no injuries. DW said, "I've never seen anything like that in my life."

Bugeater
03-25-2011, 10:15 PM
Ugh, they're racing at Fontucky this weekend? Worst. Track. Ever.

http://www.themahoganyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/nascar-boring.jpg

Al Bundy
03-25-2011, 10:25 PM
California is a boring track to watch a race on but damn it is one of the best in the nascar games.

Demonpenz
03-25-2011, 10:41 PM
Fontana is a track that is too easy to drive plenty of room if you have a fast car you don't have to be a great job to get in and out of the turns perfect. Darlington on the other hand is maddening

Bugeater
03-25-2011, 10:48 PM
California is a boring track to watch a race on but damn it is one of the best in the nascar games.
Michigan was one of my favorites, but they're very similar. Fast and wide with plenty of room to pass.

Demonpenz
03-25-2011, 10:51 PM
I loved the old atlanta, just a normal big oval with no D shape or dogleg.

Bugeater
03-25-2011, 10:54 PM
I don't even remember the old ATL track.

Demonpenz
03-25-2011, 11:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1mRYYuvOd8

Demonpenz
03-25-2011, 11:29 PM
old atlanta was a big ass oval that I think is like homestead now. Homestead has had like 3 different layouts. One like Indy, then they changed it to one big oval, now it is a banked oval I think.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 08:25 AM
They're killing off my Giants in "ChiefsPlanet's Most/Least Hated NFL Teams thread."

Can you help save them? ...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=243020

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-set?.out=jpg&id=IIBHw0su3hGvCrsWT1wfXA&size=l

where are my nascar buddies?

Al Bundy
03-27-2011, 08:29 AM
I'm right here princess.

Bugeater
03-27-2011, 08:36 AM
Did they kill the Cowboys yet? That's all that really matters.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 08:48 AM
Thank you!

I http://www.underlinfamily.com/guestbook/smileys/heart.gif my boys!!

Dylan
03-27-2011, 08:50 AM
Did they kill the Cowboys yet? That's all that really matters.

I wasn't paying attention to the Cowboys :(


UCFGoldenKnight: Which NFL team do you root for? Silly me thought you were a Chiefs fan.

Bugeater
03-27-2011, 08:55 AM
UCFGoldenKnight: Which NFL team do you root for? Silly me thought you were a Chiefs fan.
Ummm...the avatar should provide you with a clue.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 09:10 AM
Ummm...the avatar should provide you with a clue.

LMAO

The Bucs. ... Oh, OK

Bugeater, please vote for my Giants... TIA

Bugeater
03-27-2011, 09:21 AM
Okay okay...I did it.

Al Bundy
03-27-2011, 09:27 AM
LMAO

The Bucs. ... Oh, OK

Bugeater, please vote for my Giants... TIA

:doh!:

Al Bundy
03-27-2011, 09:28 AM
I wasn't paying attention to the Cowboys :(


UCFGoldenKnight: Which NFL team do you root for? Silly me thought you were a Chiefs fan.

:doh!:

kstater
03-27-2011, 11:27 AM
Indycar went to double file restarts this year.


And, well, let's just say they're having issues with it.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 01:11 PM
"Boogity, Boogity, Boogity! Let's Go Racin' Boys!"

I wish he'd quit that nonsense.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 01:16 PM
Cali Starting Grid
POS DRIVER MANUFACTURER CAR SPEED
1 Juan Pablo Montoya Chevrolet 42 184.653 mph
2 Denny Hamlin Toyota 11 184.270 mph
3 Joey Logano Toyota 20 184.134 mph
4 Regan Smith Chevrolet 78 184.030 mph
5 Tony Stewart Chevrolet 14 183.988 mph
6 David Ragan Ford 6 183.692 mph
7 Jeff Burton Chevrolet 31 183.622 mph
8 Kyle Busch Toyota 18 183.482 mph
9 Ryan Newman Chevrolet 39 183.463 mph
10 Mark Martin Chevrolet 5 183.449 mph
11 Matt Kenseth Ford 17 183.407 mph
12 Jamie McMurray Chevrolet 1 183.243 mph
13 Marcos Ambrose Ford 9 183.127 mph
14 David Reutimann Toyota 00 183.113 mph
15 Paul Menard Chevrolet 27 182.950 mph
16 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet 48 182.931 mph
17 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet 33 182.899 mph
18 Carl Edwards Ford 99 182.797 mph
19 Brian Vickers Toyota 83 182.658 mph
20 AJ Allmendinger Ford 43 182.519 mph
21 Brad Keselowski Dodge 2 182.510 mph
22 Kasey Kahne Toyota 4 182.366 mph
23 Kurt Busch Dodge 22 182.039 mph
24 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet 29 181.910 mph
25 Casey Mears Toyota 13 181.855 mph
26 Martin Truex Jr. Toyota 56 181.809 mph
27 Trevor Bayne Ford 21 181.804 mph
28 Landon Cassill Chevrolet 09 181.694 mph
29 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet 24 181.671 mph
30 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet 88 181.534 mph
31 Dave Blaney Chevrolet 36 180.936 mph
32 Greg Biffle Ford 16 180.786 mph
33 Michael McDowell Toyota 66 180.605 mph
34 Bobby Labonte Toyota 47 180.338 mph
35 Robby Gordon Dodge 7 180.279 mph
36 Travis Kvapil Ford 38 180.014 mph
37 David Gilliland Ford 34 179.699 mph
38 Andy Lally Chevrolet 71 178.958 mph
39 Ken Schrader Ford 32 177.940 mph
40 Joe Nemechek Toyota 87 177.659 mph
41 Todd Bodine Toyota 60 176.557 mph
42 Tony Raines Ford 37 175.653 mph
43 J.J. Yeley Chevrolet 46 N/A

LiveSteam
03-27-2011, 01:19 PM
PING!

Dylan
03-27-2011, 01:22 PM
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH... Kyle and Hamlin almost trade paint on the 1st lap for 3rd pl

yikes - 4 wide!!! This is suppose to be a new track

Oh Lord, Bayne kisses the wall!!!

Dylan
03-27-2011, 01:24 PM
Hamilin for the lead... got it!!

Montoya on his bumper!!

Bugeater
03-27-2011, 01:25 PM
I'm already bored.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 01:26 PM
I'm already bored.

http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Dylan
03-27-2011, 01:28 PM
PING!

pumpkin, can you please vote for the Giants?

TIA & GB :thumb:



http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Dylan
03-27-2011, 01:37 PM
It will be a shame to see how Kyle and Denny out race these drivers today. http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Unless Jeff's clone wins...


Woooo... Kyle takes the lead!

Dylan
03-27-2011, 01:44 PM
Blue jean baby, L.A. lady, seamstress for the band

Hold me closer tiny dancer
Count the headlights on the highway

I love Bud's new commercial

Bugeater
03-27-2011, 01:46 PM
:ZZZ:

LiveSteam
03-27-2011, 01:51 PM
:ZZZ:

turn the radio on to KFAB & listen for a PING!

Bugeater
03-27-2011, 02:05 PM
turn the radio on to KFAB & listen for a PING!
I'd rather watch left turns.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 02:08 PM
:ZZZ:

http://www.dthoi.com/forums/images/smilies/yim/yim_yawn.gif

Dylan
03-27-2011, 02:11 PM
turn the radio on to KFAB & listen for a PING!

LiveStream - I hope Nascar steps in soon to fix this. In the meantime can you please go and vote for the Giants (+2). TIA

Bugeater
03-27-2011, 02:13 PM
It's pretty bad when the most exciting part of a race is when Kyle Busch unsticks a hot dog wrapper from his grill.

Bugeater
03-27-2011, 02:14 PM
CAUTION FOR DEBRIS!

Which means we'll have 2.3 seconds of side by side racing on the restart to look forward to.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 02:39 PM
Even NASCRAP knows the track sucks!

Thanks to Brian France the drunk and failure!

Dylan
03-27-2011, 02:43 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7520406&postcount=347 http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif


where's my nascar buddies? help!!

Dylan
03-27-2011, 03:03 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1217264946/imagejpeg_2_14_bigger.jpg Twitter: Ryan & Krissie Newman's baby

Hard to tell from that photo. but does the baby have a neck?

If she doesn't, that's their baby for sure http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Demonpenz
03-27-2011, 03:22 PM
Vettle won f1 yesterday.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 03:24 PM
Vettle won f1 yesterday.

Where did Lewis Hamilton finish?

should have watched that race instead of this snooze fest.

Demonpenz
03-27-2011, 03:40 PM
I don't know 2nd maybe? it was on at 2 am

Dylan
03-27-2011, 03:48 PM
I don't know 2nd maybe? it was on at 2 am

Lewis Hamilton finished 2nd...

Dylan
03-27-2011, 03:49 PM
watch JimiJo win this race

Come on Kyle!! Kyle for the http://www.e-forwards.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/broom-sweep-animation-marriage-joke-valentine.gif

EVERYBODY wake up -- throw some water on your face -- It's Showtime!!

Dylan
03-27-2011, 03:53 PM
9 to Go!!

Dylan
03-27-2011, 03:55 PM
is Kyle gonna mop the floor with everyone else on the track?

Demonpenz
03-27-2011, 03:56 PM
NA NA NA NA NAPA KNOW HOW NAPA KNOW HOW

Dylan
03-27-2011, 03:57 PM
Oh chit !!! wow... Its the Kyle Jimi show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Harvick in the mix

Dylan
03-27-2011, 03:58 PM
OMG woooooooooooooooooooooo

Jimi is cuttin off everybody left and right

Dylan
03-27-2011, 03:59 PM
wow look at harvick

Al Bundy
03-27-2011, 03:59 PM
Wow.. what a finish.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 04:00 PM
OMFG HARVICK WINS IT!!!

Wow!!! Unbelievable!!

WHAT A FINISH!!!!!

Fruit Ninja
03-27-2011, 04:00 PM
Harvick just came out of nowhere and stole that race. That was FUN to watch.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 04:02 PM
WHERE'S REDNECKRAIDER! Congrats!!

Sr. Nation erupts across the nation, along with the fans in Cali - for their boy Kevin Harvick!!!


Love Harvick's burnouts!

Dylan
03-27-2011, 04:10 PM
Unbelievable how Kevin told JimiJo very nicely to get the hell out of the way, because he was coming through for the win!!!

Demonpenz
03-27-2011, 04:10 PM
DW had it exactly right, you can't turn the car going 205 into that corner, I am sure Jimmy's Tach was going bezerk getting pushed like that

Dylan
03-27-2011, 04:12 PM
Kevin and JimiJo had fresher tires than Kyle.

Kyle's crew chief messed up.

Dylan
03-27-2011, 04:28 PM
Kyle's Interview: "My car slowed down" -- He spoke about his tires.

This is the best race we've seen at Cali in a long time -

Great move at the end by the #29.

Congratulations, RedNeckRaider. Your boy did great!

RNR
03-27-2011, 04:37 PM
Kyle's Interview: "My car slowed down" -- He spoke about his tires.

This is the best race we've seen at Cali in a long time -

Great move at the end by the #29.

Congratulations, RedNeckRaider. Your boy did great!

:rockon:PBJPBJ

Dylan
03-27-2011, 05:01 PM
Kevin Harvick wins at Fontana on final turn pass


http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/assets/110327103019-kevin-harvick-celebrate-homepage-t1-vertical.jpg

FONTANA, Calif. Nowhere man - Kevin Harvick appeared out of thin air to win
the Auto Club 400, passing Jimmie Johnson on the final lap
for his first victory of the season.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/86/fullj.f582d9cbb10dcadf514e6ac1d57c5330/f582d9cbb10dcadf514e6ac1d57c5330-getty-107745395rr092_auto_club_40.jpg

Harvick started to make his move to the outside on Turn 3 and completed the pass before hitting
the final straightaway for his 15th career win. After starting 24th, he led just one of the 200 laps around the 2-mile oval.

RNR
03-27-2011, 05:17 PM
Kevin Harvick wins at Fontana on final turn pass


http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/assets/110327103019-kevin-harvick-celebrate-homepage-t1-vertical.jpg

FONTANA, Calif. Nowhere man - Kevin Harvick appeared out of thin air to win
the Auto Club 400, passing Jimmie Johnson on the final lap
for his first victory of the season.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/86/fullj.f582d9cbb10dcadf514e6ac1d57c5330/f582d9cbb10dcadf514e6ac1d57c5330-getty-107745395rr092_auto_club_40.jpg

Harvick started to make his move to the outside on Turn 3 and completed the pass before hitting
the final straightaway for his 15th career win. After starting 24th, he led just one of the 200 laps around the 2-mile oval.

One of your best posts ever~

Fruit Ninja
03-27-2011, 07:09 PM
no, he's not cheating, there is a reason why this dude was in a nascar race at 16 years old. Dude can flat out drive.

Old Dog
03-28-2011, 07:32 AM
OP updated with current standings
Congrats RNR

Al Bundy
03-28-2011, 07:58 AM
I wish Busch had never gotten out of the 5 car.

RNR
03-28-2011, 10:55 AM
OP updated with current standings
Congrats RNR

Why thank you sir! I enjoyed it quite a bit :thumb:

Dylan
03-28-2011, 04:05 PM
They're killing off my Giants in "ChiefsPlanet's Most/Least Hated NFL Teams thread."

Can you help save them? ...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=243020

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-set?.out=jpg&id=IIBHw0su3hGvCrsWT1wfXA&size=l

help!

smittysbar
03-29-2011, 09:29 PM
It will be a shame to see how Kyle and Denny out race these drivers today. http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Unless Jeff's clone wins...


Woooo... Kyle takes the lead!

Horse-----cart??? :p

Dylan
03-30-2011, 09:58 PM
smittysbar, your boy is doing great - Congrats!

Excerpts: Scene Daily

Whether Edwards re-signs with Roush is not as certain, although as long as he keeps running well, the better the chances of him remaining with the team that he has spent his entire Cup career with.

Edwards has four days a week to ponder his future, while it appears that he already knows what he’ll do to Busch if and when the time comes.
Off the track, Edwards will remain calculated in his job search. He talks a good game about trying to put his decision on hold so it won’t be a distraction to him or his Roush team.

“The biggest thing I don’t want to do is mess anything up by focusing too much on that,” Edwards said. “We all work very hard to be in the exact position we are in right now, to be this fast and come to the race track and have a chance to win.

“I don’t want to mess that up by focusing on the contract right now. We are four races in right now and I don’t want to do anything to mess up this performance.”

But Edwards can’t put a decision on hold for long because it’s not just about negotiating with Roush executives. It’s also about courting a potential new sponsor. Roush officials have been trying to help Aflac sell off some of its races under the current contract, so it makes sense that if Aflac renews, it won’t be for a full season.

So no matter whether Edwards stays at Roush or goes somewhere else, he will need a new sponsor. Those talks need to start now. It would also make sense that the longer Edwards goes unsigned, the more other teams will knock on Aflac’s door to try to lure the sponsorship – and possibly Edwards – away.

As long as Edwards leads the Cup standings and wins races, he holds the cards in the negotiations. With strong performance, he has the leverage to make money demands, whether that’s in base salary or significant incentive clauses.

Edwards’ heart might be with Roush; it’s obvious he has a soft spot for team co-owner Jack Roush. But he knows he must put himself in the best position possible to win races and championships – even if that is with another team. His passion for racing and winning likely will prevail over loyalty.

That leaves possibly a fourth team at Joe Gibbs Racing as the strongest competition. Penske Racing certainly could be a player, but the more Kurt Busch struggles, the less likely it is that Edwards will go there. Moving to Penske already could be a sticky situation considering his history with nemesis Brad Keselowski. The one thing in Penske’s favor is that organization’s ability to package sponsorships with other Roger Penske businesses.

With Kasey Kahne leaving at the end of the season for Hendrick, Red Bull Racing might have the money, but won’t get more than a passing look unless Kahne or Brian Vickers suddenly start rattling off wins.

Hendrick Motorsports doesn’t appear to have an opening for 2011. Stewart-Haas Racing? That just doesn’t seem to be a good fit. Richard Childress Racing could have a spot open if Clint Bowyer surprisingly leaves, but bringing in Edwards and trying to get him to mesh with rival Kevin Harvick would be a challenge considering their history and dislike for each other.

The history between Edwards and Harvick is different than that of Edwards and Busch. Edwards and Harvick got in a scuffle in the Charlotte garage a few years ago and have expressed their disdain for each other again last year. Busch is one of the drivers who didn’t publicly denounce Edwards during his feud with Keselowski last year. While they might get into battles on the track and in the press occasionally, there appears to be a mutual respect between the two and the possibility that they could work together on the same team.

So maybe Busch should hope that Edwards is interested in JGR. If Edwards gets deep into negotiations with Gibbs, he might hesitate to retaliate for fear of angering Busch and hurting his chances to drive for JGR?

But that probably won’t be a factor. When it’s time to wreck Busch, there will be no time for second thoughts. The contract negotiations, though, will be a much more agonizing, deliberate decision for Edwards.

http://www.scenedaily.com/news/articles/sprintcupseries/Pockys_Paddock_Which_will_Carl_Edwards_do_first__retaliate_against_Kyle_Busch_or_sign_a_new_contract .html


"do you really think NASCAR would ever help a Ford? Chevy has more cheaters than any other make and those Toyota motors really suck this year. Why do you think plates came to Nascar? It wasn't safety It's because Chevy drivers were getting smoked week in and week out by Bill Elliott. /NASCRAP FAN

LMAO true!!!


JGR? Engines seem to be breaking down in all three Gibbs teams on a weekly basis. If its not fuel mileage problems its engine problems. Toyota doesn't build JGR engines -- Gibbs engines are built in-house. Given that Red Bull hasn't had engine problems, it may be a good idea to let Toyota engineers take over. Somehow, I doubt ol' Joe Gibbs would want to give up his secrets.

I think JGR cars had engine problems last year -- I could be wrong.

Dylan
04-01-2011, 02:18 PM
Martinsville: Live Final Practice

http://www.nascar.com/races/leaderboard/cup/practice/

Dodge leading the way

Top 5 so far

Dodge
Toyota
Toyota
Toyota
Chevy

Montoya is up

Dylan
04-01-2011, 06:13 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/assets/110401094333-busch-happy-hour-homepage-t1.jpg

chefsos
04-01-2011, 08:47 PM
I'm watching the replay of today's practice, and it looks like they have some Bristol-type tire trouble again.

Al Bundy
04-01-2011, 08:54 PM
Dylan would cream herself if Kyle won that championship.

Dylan
04-02-2011, 08:35 AM
You changed your name...

I've waited a long time for Kyle to mature. And mature, he did... Kyle is very talented and fearless driver.

Love to see Junior hoist the trophy. He's working with Jeff Gordon's crew chief this year, and so far so good.

I would be happy if:

#88 #18 #42 #14 #2

Went all the way!

Dylan
04-02-2011, 08:58 AM
Camping World NEXT RACE: Martinsville - SPEED - Sat. 2 p.m. ET

Qualifying on Speed

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/assets/110402012259-busch-col-homepage-t1.jpg

CA$HCAR is pimping Kyle on the front page of their Web site -- daily... Seems, Brian France the drunk, thinks that Kyle won.
I hope that loser doesn't jinx him.

bugeater, I'll hook you up to live streaming if you want to watch the Truck Series.

Nationwide is off this weekend.

Dylan
04-02-2011, 09:19 AM
RedNeckRaider - your boy is racin' today:

QUALIFYING ORDER
Kroger 250 | Martinsville Speedway
April 02, 2011| Race 4 of 25


57 Norm Benning Chevrolet Norm Benning Racing
2 10 Chase Mattioli* Ford College Complete
3 07 Caleb Roark Chevrolet Boys & Girls Club of Kingsport
4 1 Jeffrey Earnhardt* Chevrolet Fuel Doctor USA
5 66 Justin Marks Chevrolet GoPro
6 93 Shane Sieg Chevrolet S&W Services
7 22 Joey Coulter* Chevrolet Richard Childress Racing / Darrell Gwynn Foundation
8 51 Justin Johnson* Toyota Vision Airlines / Wounded Warrior Project
9 46 Craig Goess* Toyota Greenville Toyota of N.C.
10 62 Brendan Gaughan Toyota South Point Hotel & Casino
11 39 Ryan Sieg Chevrolet S&W Towing
12 81 David Starr Toyota Zachry
13 17 Timothy Peters Toyota Autism Speaks / AutosByNelson.com
14 5 Travis Kvapil Toyota International Trucks / Monaco RV
15 20 Johanna Long* Toyota Panhandle Grading and Paving
16 8 Nelson Piquet Jr.* Chevrolet Qualcomm / Autotrac
17 7 Miguel Paludo* Toyota Stemco / Duroline
18 23 Jason White Chevrolet GunBroker.com
19 30 Todd Bodine Toyota Germain.com
20 4 Ricky Carmichael Chevrolet Monster Energy
21 18 Kyle Busch Toyota Toyota / Fas Mart
22 2 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Tide / Kroger
23 13 Johnny Sauter Chevrolet SafeAuto Ins. Co. / 104 WTQR Country / Curb Records
24 88 Matt Crafton Chevrolet Tarkett / Menards
25 3 Austin Dillon Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / Remington Arms / Tracker
26 234 Billy Keyes Chevrolet BNB Racing
27 29 Parker Kligerman* Dodge Penske Truck Rental
28 15 Dusty Davis* Toyota Vision Airlines / Emerald Coast
29 197 Matt Lofton Toyota Strutmasters.com
30 32 Brad Sweet Chevrolet Great Clips
31 92 Clay Rogers Chevrolet fleetHQ.com / BTS Tire & Wheel Distributors
32 9 Max Papis Toyota GEICO
33 60 Cole Whitt* Chevrolet Red Bull / Van-Go Rentals
34 33 Ron Hornaday Chevrolet Cooked Perfect Meatballs
35 31 James Buescher Chevrolet Wolfpack Rentals
36 77 Justin Lofton Toyota Lofton Cattle

* Denotes Rookie

Dylan
04-02-2011, 12:22 PM
Truck Series on SPEED: Live Streaming

http://www.fromsportcom.com/v-2/2/80/v-228190.html

Dylan
04-02-2011, 12:57 PM
LMAO

Todd Bodine got into the back of Kevin Harvick. Kevin lets him go by -- then pulls right in back of Todd & spins him out... LMAO

Dylan
04-02-2011, 11:00 PM
I'm watching the replay of today's practice, and it looks like they have some Bristol-type tire trouble again.

One thought after watching the race today, Martinsville is the new Bristol. Great racing -- Very exciting.


Dustin Long from the Virginian Pilot had this to say:

Is Sunday’s race set to be an awful affair because of tire issues or might it actually be one of the better races in some time because the track might narrow to one groove and that could lead to a lot of bumping and banging.

Anyway, the talk all weekend has been about tires. Before I get to what is being said, a quick explanation of what’s going on:

# Goodyear brought a new left-side tire and a new right side tire to Martinsville. The left side features a “tougher compound’’ according to Goodyear and the right side features a “softer compound for more grip.’’

# Friday, the track did not rubber up – in other words rubber was not adhering to the track. More rubber on the track equals more grip for drivers. Less rubber and guys are sliding all around. It was causing more tire wear than teams see here. As one crew chief told me, it changed who was good, noting the guys who often are good at Martinsville were loose while those that had struggled in the past were fast.

# Another issue is that the bits of tires that come off and lay on the track (marbles) are covering up the second groove after a while. That narrows the racing groove to one lane. Get those marbles on your tires and it takes a lap or so to get them off and by that time a driver has fallen back. (this is something that has happened in the past and the key is for NASCAR to send out jet dryers to blow those off the high groove during caution periods).

# After the truck race Saturday, the track was still not rubbering up as driver say.



On to what drivers are saying about this issue:

KEVIN HARVICK

(he finished 4th in the truck race)

“The tires are just such pieces of crap,’’ Harvick said after finishing fourth in the truck race. “There’s still no rubber on the race track. It’s put all the teams in a box that isn’t really necessary. I don’t know why we take good tires that we’ve raced here … and change them.’’

Asked what he would tell NASCAR, Harvick said: “You can’t tell them anything. They’re on their own agenda, it seems like.’’



KYLE BUSCH

(he finished 2nd in the truck race)

“There’s no rubber on the race track,’’ Busch said. “I don’t see it getting better (today). Anything could surprise, but I doubt it.’’



TRAVIS KVAPIL

(he finished 20th in the truck race)

“It’s going to be a problem (Sunday) for sure. It’s going to be a fight for the bottom (groove). If you do get slid up there (to high groove) you’re just going to have to hang on and hope for a hole.’’



NASCAR SPRINT CUP SERIES DIRECTOR JOHN DARBY

I talked with he and Robin Pemberton, vice president of competition, and both were comfortable with the tires for Sunday’s race.

Said Darby: “Is it a different tire? Yeah. Let’s race it first and see what happens.’’



DALE EARNHARDT JR.

“It is pretty disappointing. Just hopefully we can figure out what is wrong; why the tires aren’t as good as they should be and get it fixed.

“After 12 laps, everybody was kind of falling off pretty fast. There was no rubber built up and there was a lot of marbles. You couldn’t get out of the bottom groove. You had to run right next to the curb. If you got in the marbles, it would ruin you. Once you got in the marbles, you ruined that set. I mean, there is no way to get them off. We don’t go fast enough here to really grind them off. It was messy. It was just real messy all day.”



JEFF GORDON

“We had our debrief with all of our drivers and crew chiefs and engineers (Friday) and it was kind of comical leaving there,’’ Jeff Gordon said, noting the various opinions expressed.

“All the drivers are talking about, “Man, the cars are so loose, the cars are so loose; can’t get them tight enough, can’t get them tight enough.’ We’re wearing the rear tires out. So all the drivers are wanting the crew chiefs to put soft rear springs in and just do everything to maximize the grip.

“And the crew chiefs are sitting there going, “Yeah, I’ve heard this before,’ and then they drop the green flag and the track lays some rubber and then all of a sudden we’re screaming tight, and can’t get it free enough. And so, it puts them in a very tricky position.’’



DENNY HAMLIN

“We’ve had to change our setups quite a bit (because of the track not taking on rubber). We’ve always had kind of a base that we kind of play around with all of the time. One of the concerning things for us is our setup is way out of the box from that this weekend, so we’re going to see whether it’s better or worse.’’



KURT BUSCH

"It’s going to be a great show on Sunday because these tires are wearing out so fast, nobody has any idea what to expect for the race. It’s going to be a lot of slip-sliding around. There’s going to be a bunch of ping pong balls bouncing around out there.

“The track is not taking the rubber in, something different than what we’ve seen here in the past. Maybe they missed it a little on the chemical in the tires as far as laying down the rubber. What’s happening is the tires are shredding so fast, they aren’t developing heat and we’re chafing the rubber right off the tires.”



RYAN NEWMAN

“From what I was told, they made a minor tweak to the tire and came here and I guess didn’t know the answer of what it was going to do. They speculated. It could change all over again tomorrow. That is the biggest question we all have in our head. What is the track going to do when we have 43 cars out there with the exhausts being down on the race track? Is it going to lay rubber or not?

“If it does, it is going to change a lot of things. I think it will take two different setups to be able to be successful in either of those situations. Whether it rubbers up or whether it doesn’t and it continues to eat tires up throughout a run. The way it looks on paper, there is no way we could do even close to a fuel run tomorrow. But I think the track will change, I just don’t know how much and when that will happen.

http://hamptonroads.com/blogs/dustin-long

Dylan
04-03-2011, 08:26 AM
STARTING LINEUP
Martinsville Speedway
62nd Annual Goody's Fast Relief 500
Sunday, April 03, 2011 @ 01:00 Eastern on FOX

1 1 Jamie McMurray Widia Chevy 96.509 19.621
2 39 Ryan Newman Haas Automation Chevy 96.342 19.655
3 4 Kasey Kahne Red Bull Toyota 96.293 19.665
4 20 Joey Logano The Home Depot Toyota 96.220 19.680
5 11 Denny Hamlin FedEx Ground Toyota 95.995 19.726
6 43 A J Allmendinger Best Buy Ford 95.951 19.735
7 47 Bobby Labonte Lance Toyota 95.903 19.745
8 00 David Reutimann Aaron's Outdoors Toyota 95.854 19.755
9 29 Kevin Harvick Budweiser Chevy 95.825 19.761
10 78 Regan Smith Furniture Row Racing Chevy 95.791 19.768
11 18 Kyle Busch Pedigree Toyota 95.786 19.769
12 5 Mark Martin Quaker State / GoDaddy.com Chevy 95.714 19.784
13 83 Brian Vickers Red Bull Toyota 95.694 19.788
14 6 David Ragan UPS Ford 95.675 19.792
15 33 Clint Bowyer BB&T Chevy 95.651 19.797
16 27 Paul Menard Nibco / Menards Chevy 95.554 19.817
17 48 Jimmie Johnson Lowe's Chevy 95.540 19.820
18 56 Martin Truex Jr. NAPA Auto Parts Toyota 95.477 19.833
19 9 Marcos Ambrose DeWalt Ford 95.468 19.835
20 22 Kurt Busch Shell / Pennzoil Dodge 95.463 19.836
21 24 Jeff Gordon Drive to End Hunger / AARP Chevy 95.429 19.843
22 2 Brad Keselowski Miller Lite Dodge 95.386 19.852
23 99 Carl Edwards Aflac Ford 95.275 19.875
24 17 Matt Kenseth Crown Royal Ford 95.256 19.879
25 21 Trevor Bayne(i) Motorcraft / Quick Lane Ford 95.256 19.879
26 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. AMP Energy / National Guard Chevy 95.184 19.894
27 42 Juan Pablo Montoya Target Chevy 95.118 19.908
28 14 Tony Stewart Office Depot / Mobil 1 Chevy 95.089 19.914
29 36 Dave Blaney All Sport Body Quencher Chevy 95.079 19.916
30 13 Casey Mears GEICO Toyota 95.003 19.932
31 38 Travis Kvapil(i) Long John Silver's Ford 94.955 19.942
32 31 Jeff Burton Caterpillar Chevy 94.671 20.002
33 16 Greg Biffle 3M Ford 94.661 20.004
34 7 Robby Gordon Fast Five / SPEED Energy Dodge 94.548 20.028
35 66 Michael McDowell HP Racing LLC Toyota 94.472 20.044
36 34 David Gilliland Taco Bell Ford 94.369 20.066
37 87 Joe Nemechek(i) AM FM Energy.com Toyota 94.209 20.100
38 09 Landon Cassill(i) Thank A Teacher Today Chevy 94.045 20.135
39 60 Mike Skinner(i) Big Red Toyota 93.877 20.171
40 32 Ken Schrader VAMortgageCenter.com Ford 93.613 20.228
41 37 Tony Raines Front Row Motorsports Ford 93.253 20.306
42 46 JJ Yeley Red Line Chevy 93.253 20.306
43 71 Hermie Sadler(i) Eco-Fuel Saver Chevy 91.744 20.640

Dylan
04-03-2011, 08:47 AM
MARTINSVILLE SPEEDWAY TRACK NEWS

March 2010 Race Winner: #11-Denny Hamlin, 73.180mph, started 19th

October 2010 Race Winner: #11-Denny Hamlin, 71.619mph, started 1st

Track Race Record: Jeff Gordon, Sept 1996, 82.223mph

Oldest Race Winner: Harry Gant, 51 years, 8 months, 12 days, 9/22/1991

Youngest Race Winner: Richard Petty, 22 years, 9 months, 8 days, 4/10/1960

March 2010 Pole Sitter: #29-Kevin Harvick, set by points, canceled by rain, finished 35th

October 2010 Pole Sitter: #11-Denny Hamlin, 97.018mph, finished 1st

Track Qualifying Record: Tony Stewart, October 2005, 98.083mph

Oldest Pole Winner: Morgan Shepherd, 45 years, 6 months, 14 days, 4/26/1987

Youngest Pole Winner: Ricky Rudd, 24 years, 7 months, 14 days, 04/26/1981

Most Wins - Active Driver: Jeff Gordon, 7; Jimmie Johnson, 6

Most Wins - All Time: Richard Petty, 15

Most Poles - Active Driver: Jeff Gordon, 7

Most Poles - All Time: Darrell Waltrip, 8

Most Top 5s: 30 - Richard Petty; Active leader - 23 - Jeff Gordon

Most Top 10s: 37 - Richard Petty; Active leader- 29 - Jeff Gordon

Lead Lap Finishes (all time): Rusty Wallace 29 in 44 races

Lead Lap Finishes (active): Jeff Gordon 28 in 35 races

Laps Led (all time): Cale Yarborough - 3,851 laps

Laps Led (active): Jeff Gordon - 2,944 laps

Most Cautions: 19 - 10/23/2005

Fewest Cautions: 1 - 3 times, most recently 4/25/1971

Most Caution Laps: 125, 10/24/2004

Fewest Caution Laps: 3, 4/25/1971

Most Running at the Finish: 42 - 4/18/1999 and 4/1/2007

Fewest Running at the Finish: 4 - 5/6/1951

Worst Starting Spot to Win: Kurt Busch, Oct 2002, started 36th

Most Lead Changes: 25 - 9/28/1980

Fewest Lead Changes: 1 - 3 times, most recently 4/9/1961

Most Leaders: 14 - 10/15/2001

Fewest Leaders: 2 - 11 times last on 9/26/1976

Most Wins by Manufacturer: 46 - Chevy; 26 - Ford; 10 - Dodge; 5 - Toyota; 40 - Others

Fewest Laps Led by a Race Winner: 4 - John Andretti 4/18/1999

Most Laps Led by a Race Winner: 493 - Fred Lorenzen, 9/27/1964


Races won from starting pos 1: 19 [of 124] 15.323%

Races won from starting pos 2: 15

Races won from starting pos 3: 14

Races won from starting pos 4: 12

Races won from starting pos 5: 5

Races won from starting pos 6: 8

Races won from starting pos 7: 7

Races won from starting pos 8: 2

Races won from starting pos 9: 3

Races won from starting pos 10: 4

Races won from starting pos 11: 2

Races won from starting pos 12: 3

Races won from starting pos 13: 2

Races won from starting pos 14: 5

Races won from starting pos 15: 3

Races won from starting pos 16: 1

Races won from starting pos 17: 4

Races won from starting pos 18: 1

Races won from starting pos 19: 2

Races won from starting pos 20: 3

Races won from starting pos 21: 2

Races won from starting pos 23: 1

Races won from starting pos 24: 1

Races won from starting pos 36: 1

Races won from starting pos unknown: 4

Races won from the top 5: 65 of 124 - 52.419%

Races won from the top 10: 89 of 124 - 71.774%

RNR
04-03-2011, 08:57 AM
LMAO

Todd Bodine got into the back of Kevin Harvick. Kevin lets him go by -- then pulls right in back of Todd & spins him out... LMAO

:thumb: atta boy~

Dylan
04-03-2011, 11:21 AM
:thumb: atta boy~

Priceless :thumb:


Ok... Race is on -- This is gonna be fun!

Ut... Kenseth penalized on the first lap going in to turn 4. Matt cut in front of his teammate.

Pass through penalty

Kyle & Vickers exchanging paint... LOL

Dylan
04-03-2011, 11:32 AM
Ut oh... Kyle, Denny & Jimi may be schooling the others today -- Denny for the lead

45 green flag laps = 4 lead changes

Dylan
04-03-2011, 11:50 AM
Wooooooooo!! Kyle all the way to the front

1st- New Leader - Kyle
2nd- JimiJo
3rd - Denny

Jeff Gordon on the move

where'd ya'll go?

wake up -- throw some water on your face --

it's MARTINSVILLE!

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 12:12 PM
Boogity boogity boogity

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 12:16 PM
Woo Hoo....#33 to the front. Of course he will probably blow it and finish outside of the top 10 by the end of the day.

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 12:16 PM
Ol' Clint out front

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 12:17 PM
Woo Hoo....#33 to the front. Of course he will probably blow it and finish outside of the top 10 by the end of the day.

I don't know, he looks to be fast

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 12:20 PM
He's been pretty lucky so far. He's started in the inside row at every green flag. That's been big today.

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 12:30 PM
caution

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 12:33 PM
That's BS, speeding by someone

fuck you Kyle!

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 12:37 PM
33 and 18 gonna get interesting later in the race

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 12:47 PM
Man the TV coverage this year has sucked. Just today they have missed all of the cautions, missed 2 pit stops, and missed the last restart.

Dylan
04-03-2011, 12:47 PM
Yeah!! here's my NASCAR boys!!

Hey guys!

Dylan
04-03-2011, 12:48 PM
truebigdog, your boy is doing great! http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/images/smilies/thumb.gif

Dylan
04-03-2011, 12:52 PM
OMG what a hit!!!!

Kahne ok? chit

OMG

Truex is out of his car running to see if Kahne is ok! damn

Wow!

RED Flag!

Demonpenz
04-03-2011, 12:52 PM
is Rick Mast winning?

kstater
04-03-2011, 12:52 PM
Looks like his brakes failed

Dylan
04-03-2011, 12:58 PM
looks like truex and kahne got together in the turn.

truex at fault??

not sure

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 12:59 PM
Looks like his brakes failed

either that or a stuck throttle

Dylan
04-03-2011, 12:59 PM
is Rick Mast winning?

LMAO... where is Rick Mast? LMAO

kstater
04-03-2011, 01:00 PM
either that or a stuck throttle

You could hear him come off the throttle on the incar replay.

kstater
04-03-2011, 01:01 PM
Never mind then.

mlyonsd
04-03-2011, 01:02 PM
Ready for a dale jr dominated restart !!!

You're new to NASCAR aren't you?

Dylan
04-03-2011, 01:03 PM
Ready for a dale jr dominated restart !!!

http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Dylan
04-03-2011, 01:07 PM
Boy, that was ugly! Glad they both survived!

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/assets/110403065307-truex-crash-homepage-t1.jpg

Live: Cup Series race at Martinsville

Martin Truex Jr. lost control and slammed into the wall, taking Kasey Kahne with him. The hit was so hard it has halted action to repair the SAFER barrier.

Source: Nascar.com

http://www.nascar.com/

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 01:12 PM
Ready for a dale jr dominated restart !!!

Assuming you're a #88 fan then....OP updated.


FWIW, you oughta shave off the left half of those 8s and back the 33 :)

Demonpenz
04-03-2011, 01:18 PM
I remember one time I was in a life chatroom with dale earnhardt jr on nascar.com and I asked if he thinks he could jack off and cum during a red flag. They booted me

Dylan
04-03-2011, 01:22 PM
Ah, come on DW -- Rick Hendricks owes his success to Robert Gee --who's son-in-law was Dale, Sr.

Gawd damn, get it right!

Dylan
04-03-2011, 01:25 PM
I remember one time I was in a life chatroom with dale earnhardt jr on nascar.com and I asked if he thinks he could jack off and cum during a red flag. They booted me

:facepalm:




"They booted me" LMAO

Dylan
04-03-2011, 01:27 PM
Oh Jesus, Stale bread... involved

WTH happened? lol

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 01:27 PM
47 looks like a compact now

Al Bundy
04-03-2011, 01:28 PM
Ole Kurt ran outta talent.

Al Bundy
04-03-2011, 01:29 PM
I remember one time I was in a life chatroom with dale earnhardt jr on nascar.com and I asked if he thinks he could jack off and cum during a red flag. They booted me

:doh!:

Dylan
04-03-2011, 01:34 PM
Billionaire Menard runs out of talent -- ah, come on Brad Keslksdfuoaidflksdjflk/sd! you caused it

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 01:34 PM
Man this is one way to clear out the field

Kazskdgfkwegflisdhfiewowloski up to the normal shit

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 01:35 PM
Now it's Kezsefouhsdfski's turn to run out of talent.....2 1/2 hours and we still aren't halfway....great googly moogly

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 01:36 PM
Sorry Smitty, I think I mis-spelled Kazskdgfkwegflisdhfiewowloski

Dylan
04-03-2011, 01:37 PM
i think this race is gonna be one big clusterfluk at the end

wonder how many cars will be on the lead lap

bunch up again!

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 01:38 PM
i think this race is gonna be one big clusterfluk at the end

I think it already is Darlin'
On the bright side, plently of time for trips to the fridge for more beers and to the restroom for more room :)

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 01:39 PM
Sorry Smitty, I think I mis-spelled Kazskdgfkwegflisdhfiewowloski

Yes you did the correct way is Kazowsehkslhfslkdjhsdlnsdlndsski

Dylan
04-03-2011, 01:40 PM
I think it already is Darlin'
On the bright side, plently of time for trips to the fridge for more beers and to the restroom for more room :)

LOL... I'm eating potato chips - now, i gotta get up & get diet pepsi.

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 01:41 PM
Tony penalized

Man they are really watching that this year

Dylan
04-03-2011, 01:41 PM
Eh, leave Junior alone, Shrub! or I'll jinx ya.

ya bastage

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 01:42 PM
Don't like the #11 behind Clint

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 01:43 PM
was worried the #11 would put him in the wall to get the lead

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 01:49 PM
Montoya is a bitch, Biff owes him one

Dylan
04-03-2011, 01:54 PM
Ready for a dale jr dominated restart !!!

as a second driver to root for -- you should think about rooting for #11. gotta have more than one...

What's puzzling is Joe Gibbs has been having engine problems for a while -- JGR should let Toyota build their engines, instead of keeping it in-house.

Dylan
04-03-2011, 02:03 PM
Hamlin is faking us out. Watch him zip to the lead.


http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Dylan
04-03-2011, 02:18 PM
Harvick says this caution is a bunch of shit it is whenever they want to throw it LMAO

http://twitter.com/RCR29KHarvick

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 02:19 PM
For once I agree with Harvick

Dylan
04-03-2011, 02:20 PM
bugeater, where are you?

mlyonsd
04-03-2011, 02:21 PM
as a second driver to root for -- you should think about rooting for #11. gotta have more than one...

What's puzzling is Joe Gibbs has been having engine problems for a while -- JGR should let Toyota build their engines, instead of keeping it in-house.

That's like having two favorite NFL teams. Just wrong.:p

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 02:22 PM
Dang it. The penalty on the #1 made Clint start on the outside :(

Dylan
04-03-2011, 02:23 PM
J.C. Biff' gonna get into the freakin marbles on the high line

smittysbar
04-03-2011, 02:32 PM
Best drivers 88#, 48#, 24#,33#,14#,5#

Do Whaaaaaaat?

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 02:33 PM
How can they not black flag the #31 with that chunk of hood stuck up like that? Seems it could easily tear off and fly the fence.

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 03:01 PM
Do Whaaaaaaat?

I assume he's saying "his favorite", not "best". Hell, Jr wouldn't have a ride if not for his name. He gets less out of better equipment more than anyone I've known.

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 03:01 PM
Caution out with 35 to go. That hurts the #11 in a big way.

kstater
04-03-2011, 03:01 PM
That's a damn shame, Gordon is gonna lose 15 spots on that caution.

Buck
04-03-2011, 03:03 PM
SHIT

mlyonsd
04-03-2011, 03:04 PM
48 speeds on pit road.

Dylan
04-03-2011, 03:06 PM
Point is well taken --

For me though, it's not the NFL.

In NASCAR, I have a favorite driver, #88. However, it is hard not to route for the others --since I've had the opportunity to follow these drivers early in their careers before they got their chance to start in Sprint Cup series. I have tremendous respect for their talents. It takes years before I become invested in a driver. But team also plays a role.

Dylan
04-03-2011, 03:07 PM
Go JUNIOR

Gawd, I love Steve LeTarte!!!!!

Dylan
04-03-2011, 03:08 PM
Bump & run Jr

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 03:08 PM
Jr gonna wreck Kyle in a lap or two

Dylan
04-03-2011, 03:09 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Come on Junior!!!

20 laps is like a 100!

Dylan
04-03-2011, 03:10 PM
Jr gonna wreck Kyle in a lap or two

Jr will race clean

he can eff up... I doubt it

Kyle will race clean -- He's matured... finally

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 03:11 PM
Jr will race clean unless he effs up...

I wasn't saying he would do it intentionally, just figured he would.

Dylan
04-03-2011, 03:11 PM
Ma F'in lap traffic!

get out of the way!

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 03:12 PM
Very rarely root for Harvick, but in this case I will

Dylan
04-03-2011, 03:13 PM
I wasn't saying he would do it intentionally, just figured he would.

Jr is a clean racer -- He's a good guy - that's why he has the largest NASCAR fanbase.

Trust me, he's messed up -- but not intentionally.

Dylan
04-03-2011, 03:13 PM
I die!!!

5 to go

LiveSteam
04-03-2011, 03:14 PM
PING!

Dylan
04-03-2011, 03:14 PM
OK now jr can bump & run

Give Harvick credit

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 03:15 PM
Jr is a clean racer -- He's a good guy - that's why he has the largest NASCAR fanbase.

Trust me, he's messed up -- but not intentionally.

The reason he has the largest following is because of his last name.

Dylan
04-03-2011, 03:16 PM
CONGRATULATIONS, REDNECKRAIDER!!!

#29 RAN A GREAT RACE!

GREAT PASS!

mlyonsd
04-03-2011, 03:17 PM
Well that sucked. GD it Jr.

Baby steps I suppose.

Dylan
04-03-2011, 03:18 PM
The reason he has the largest following is because of his last name.

Not true... The majority of Dale Earnhardt, Sr's fanbase roots for Kevin Harvick or Richard Childress Racing.


Don't forget the year Dale died, the #3 cars were painted over to the #29. Kevin drove the #3/#29 cars into the next season.

Fans are funny like that.

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 03:18 PM
Congrats RNR, Two in a row.

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 03:19 PM
Not true... The majority of Dale Earnhardt, Sr's fanbase roots for Kevin Harvick or Richard Childress Racing.

We will have to agree to disagree on that. Some, yes, but not many.

kstater
04-03-2011, 03:23 PM
Harvick virtually guaranteed a chase spot now. No chance 2 other teams win 3 races and still don't make the top 10.

Bugeater
04-03-2011, 03:25 PM
PING!
I see what you did there.

LiveSteam
04-03-2011, 03:26 PM
I see what you did there.

:-)

Dylan
04-03-2011, 04:16 PM
We will have to agree to disagree on that. Some, yes, but not many.

It has been fairly well covered by journalists -- Some of Earnhardt Sr fanbase root for Junior and Tony Stewart. But the majority root for Harvick & RCR.


Quick Google -Excerpts from Harvick on Dale Earnhardt, Sr's Legacy (2010):

“I embraced it zero in the beginning,” Harvick said Thursday. “I wanted to change the color of the car, I wanted new sponsors. If he wore a white suit, I wanted a black suit.

“I wanted zero to do with it. … You had all these fans and all this pressure from the media. I put my guard up immediately and said I don’t want to hear anything about Dale Earnhardt, I don’t want to hear anything about his fans, I don’t care about his fans.”

Now, nearly 10 years after Earnhardt’s death, Harvick has the backing of many of those fans who rooted for the No. 3 car and its legendary driver.

Harvick has embraced that role. RCR has not won a championship since Earnhardt’s last Cup title in 1994. All six titles won by RCR came with Earnhardt behind the wheel.

“It’s impossible to get away from that [legacy],” Harvick said. “It’s not something that, I’ve learned, you really want to get away from. It’s something that is a great part of what RCR has done in this sport. And it’s great to be a part of that now and it’s great to be a part of that team to carry that legacy on.”

“You realize that those people are still out there and still love the sport and still love everything that happens at RCR and have kind of found that hole, I guess, that’s been missing, and that’s been the competitive nature of what used to be the 3 car in the 29 car,” Harvick said. “And it’s very rewarding to know that those people are still out there and still care enough about the sport.”

http://www.scenedaily.com/news/articles/sprintcupseries/Kevin_Harvick_finally_embraces_Dale_Earnhardt_legacy_as_RCR_fans_root_for_him_to_win_Sprint_Cup_titl e.html

Dylan
04-03-2011, 04:36 PM
Harvick edges past Earnhardt for Martinsville win


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MARTINSVILLE, Va. -- Kevin Harvick won his second consecutive race --
to win the Goody's Fast Relief 500 Sprint Cup race Sunday at Martinsville Speedway.

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Kevin Harvick earned his first Martinsville victory, but he had to get past fan favorite Dale Earnhardt Jr.
and in the process may have become the most unpopular man in Virginia.

Old Dog
04-03-2011, 04:45 PM
Standings have been updated in OP

RNR
04-03-2011, 04:47 PM
Jr is a clean racer -- He's a good guy - that's why he has the largest NASCAR fanbase.

Trust me, he's messed up -- but not intentionally.

His dad who was my driver...(I am one of the #3 fans that follows the #29) would have drove hard and put the bumper on the 29 and won the race. Jr showed class and drove Mark Martin old school at the end, and like Martin that gets you 2nd place~

mlyonsd
04-03-2011, 04:54 PM
His dad who was my driver...(I am one of the #3 fans that follows the #29) would have drove hard and put the bumper on the 29 and won the race. Jr showed class and drove Mark Martin old school at the end, and like Martin that gets you 2nd place~This. I mean this is exactly correct. Senior would have come right back at the 29 and tapped him out of the way. No doubt.

Hammond even mentioned in the post race that Jr. should worry less about hurting other's feelings.

I always root for Jr. but he doesn't have the heart of a champion in the sport. It might be because of growing up at the track with his dad and listening to others whine about him but Jr. will never win a championship if he's afraid to go after it if someone in front of you is slower.

threebag02
04-03-2011, 04:55 PM
I miss Dale Sr.

RNR
04-03-2011, 05:32 PM
This. I mean this is exactly correct. Senior would have come right back at the 29 and tapped him out of the way. No doubt.

Hammond even mentioned in the post race that Jr. should worry less about hurting other's feelings.

I always root for Jr. but he doesn't have the heart of a champion in the sport. It might be because of growing up at the track with his dad and listening to others whine about him but Jr. will never win a championship if he's afraid to go after it if someone in front of you is slower.
In this case the 29 was faster but the win was still there for the taking~

Dylan
04-03-2011, 08:58 PM
I have to disagree.

If you remember, in the closing laps, Kevin Harvick had a super fast car. He ran down 5 or 6 cars before he got underneath Junior to make the pass. If Junior would have bumped Harvick and turned him sideways, it would have left the door open for Kyle to pass them. Junior's car was not fast enough to pass Harvick. You can't find speed. I believe Junior made the right decision and raced clean.

It's also worth noting, Junior didn't have a problem being aggressive with Kyle Busch. He used his bumper twice on Kyle to loosen him and make a pass in the closing laps. At that point, Junior had a faster car.

Jimmie Johnson found himself in the same situation in Fontana last week. Kyle Busch dominated the race. But in the end, Harvick had the fastest car. Actually, Johnson was leading, when Harvick bumped him loose, and passed him on the lead. Johnson also made the right call -- instead of wrecking Harvick, he raced him clean.

In case you missed the race on Saturday, Johnny Sauter bumped Kyle Busch, passed him on the last one or two laps of the race. Instead of wrecking Sauter, I'm (finally) happy to report, Busch raced him clean and came in second.

Drivers really want to win the championship. Drivers realize it's about points, staying focused and having patience. Just ask JimiJo... lol

Dylan
04-03-2011, 09:15 PM
This. I mean this is exactly correct. Senior would have come right back at the 29 and tapped him out of the way. No doubt.

Hammond even mentioned in the post race that Jr. should worry less about hurting other's feelings.

I always root for Jr. but he doesn't have the heart of a champion in the sport. It might be because of growing up at the track with his dad and listening to others whine about him but Jr. will never win a championship if he's afraid to go after it if someone in front of you is slower.

In order to win the championship, I feel you're going to need friends on the track.

A lot has changed since 2001.

just my opinion.

Dylan
04-03-2011, 09:23 PM
Thanks, truebigdog.

Standings (Top 20) after Martinsville wins in parenthesis

1 Kyle Busch 219 Leader (1)
2 Carl Edwards 214 -5 (1)
3 Jimmie Johnson 207 -12
4 Kurt Busch 205 -14
5 Kevin Harvick 204 -15 (2)
6 Ryan Newman 203 -16
7 Juan Montoya 201 -18
8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 199 -20
9 Matt Kenseth 195 -24
10 Mark Martin 181 -38
11 Tony Stewart 180 -39
12 Jeff Gordon 170 -49 (1) above line would be in the Chase
13 Paul Menard 170 -49
14 A.J. Allmendinger 168 -51
15 Kasey Kahne 163 -56
16 Clint Bowyer 158 -61
17 Martin Truex Jr. 151 -68
18 David Ragan 147 -72
19 Denny Hamlin 145 -74
20 Greg Biffle 142 -77


Pretty close ... Would you want to risk intentionally taking out a driver?

The smart drivers are point racing right now.

Dylan
04-03-2011, 09:40 PM
You Can't Beat Speed: Harvick Wins at Martinsville

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Closing laps at Martinsville

mlyonsd
04-04-2011, 07:49 AM
In this case the 29 was faster but the win was still there for the taking~

What I meant was Jr. could have easily gotten the 29 out of the gas by nudging him when he did the cross over. Sr. would have, realizing the 29 was faster and it was his only shot to hold on to the win.

RNR
04-04-2011, 09:15 AM
What I meant was Jr. could have easily gotten the 29 out of the gas by nudging him when he did the cross over. Sr. would have, realizing the 29 was faster and it was his only shot to hold on to the win.

Yes he could have and IMO should have. I am pretty sure Harvick would have done it to him had their roles been reversed~

Demonpenz
04-04-2011, 10:30 AM
Bill Elliot wouldn't have, and he had the greatest nes game of all time

Dylan
04-04-2011, 11:43 AM
I have to disagree.

If you remember, in the closing laps, Kevin Harvick had a super fast car. He ran down 5 or 6 cars before he got underneath Junior to make the pass. If Junior would have bumped Harvick and turned him sideways, it would have left the door open for Kyle to pass them. Junior's car was not fast enough to pass Harvick. You can't find speed. I believe Junior made the right decision and raced clean.

It's also worth noting, Junior didn't have a problem being aggressive with Kyle Busch. He used his bumper twice on Kyle to loosen him and make a pass in the closing laps. At that point, Junior had a faster car.

Jimmie Johnson found himself in the same situation in Fontana last week. Kyle Busch dominated the race. But in the end, Harvick had the fastest car. Actually, Johnson was leading, when Harvick bumped him loose, and passed him on the lead. Johnson also made the right call -- instead of wrecking Harvick, he raced him clean.

In case you missed the race on Saturday, Johnny Sauter bumped Kyle Busch, passed him on the last one or two laps of the race. Instead of wrecking Sauter, I'm (finally) happy to report, Busch raced him clean and came in second.

Drivers really want to win the championship. Drivers realize it's about points, staying focused and having patience. Just ask JimiJo... lol

Please read above:

If Junior wanted to win -- He needed to take out Harvick -- not get him loose -- wreck him. Harvick had a faster car. If that's what you call racin' fine, I except that -- I don't.

Why would you risk wrecking another driver and possibly yourself and others to win the race, when Chase points are the goal?

Dale, Sr was dead before the Chase system was put into place. This is why die-hard NASCAR fans HATE the new points system -- Drivers are forced to point race.

Dylan
04-04-2011, 11:48 AM
Bill Elliot wouldn't have, and he had the greatest nes game of all time


:thumb:

philfree
04-04-2011, 12:06 PM
Jrs car lossened up at the end and he just couldn't drive it in deep enough. I'm not sure he could have bumped and run unless he just barrelled Harvick over and that would have wrecked them both.

Philfree:arrow:

Demonpenz
04-04-2011, 12:26 PM
yeah I was comin out of turn 2 everyone checked up and I got in the back of the blue Duece, after that our car was junk, I would like to thank the Bass fishing tyco conaco chevy and the folks over at daves auto part for sponsering us, we will be back next week diggin hard.

RNR
04-04-2011, 02:47 PM
Please read above:

If Junior wanted to win -- He needed to take out Harvick -- not get him loose -- wreck him. Harvick had a faster car. If that's what you call racin' fine, I except that -- I don't.

Why would you risk wrecking another driver and possibly yourself and others to win the race, when Chase points are the goal?

Dale, Sr was dead before the Chase system was put into place. This is why die-hard NASCAR fans HATE the new points system -- Drivers are forced to point race.

As someone else said "unless he just barrelled Harvick over and that would have wrecked them both." and what you are saying I understand. If you watch the tape it was not the first time he had a nose in because you are right it would have put the 29 in the fence. The 2nd time when he went for the cross over he could have got the 29 loose and out of the gas without wrecking him the same dang way he got around the 18 to begin with.

He then could have battled it out with the 18 for the win. When you have not won a race in damn near a 100 races you go for the win there IMO It worked out for me as I pull for the 29 but IMO had his dad or Harvick been in the same exact situation they would have rubbed and ran for the lapped cars. What I don't understand is how doing it to Bush is fine but doing it to Harvick makes him the bad guy some how :spock: He sure as heck could have got the 29 loose and out of the gas without wrecking him...he even said as much in the post race interview~

kstater
04-04-2011, 02:50 PM
The idea that points racing wasn't prominent prior to the chase is pretty fucking ridiculous.

mlyonsd
04-04-2011, 02:51 PM
As someone else said "unless he just barrelled Harvick over and that would have wrecked them both." and what you are saying I understand. If you watch the tape it was not the first time he had a nose in because you are right it would have put the 29 in the fence. The 2nd time when he went for the cross over he could have got the 29 loose and out of the gas without wrecking him the same dang way he got around the 18 to begin with.

He then could have battled it out with the 18 for the win. When you have not won a race in damn near a 100 races you go for the win there IMO It worked out for me as I pull for the 29 but IMO had his dad or Harvick been in the same exact situation they would have rubbed and ran for the lapped cars. What I don't understand is how doing it to Bush is fine but doing it to Harvick makes him the bad guy some how :spock: He sure as heck could have got the 29 loose and out of the gas without wrecking him...he even said as much in the post race interview~

Yup. Sure Harvick probably might have made it back to the 88 before the end of the race but that doesn't mean he could pass him. I know he wouldn't have passed #3 twice. :thumb:

RNR
04-04-2011, 03:05 PM
Yup. Sure Harvick probably might have made it back to the 88 before the end of the race but that doesn't mean he could pass him. I know he wouldn't have passed #3 twice. :thumb:

LMAO I tried to rep you again but got the old "have to spread it around" I hear what Dylan is saying. What is funny to me is this gee golly I want to be liked thinking. Harvick flat out put the 18 in the fence in the last race last year for clowning around and trying to help his team member beat Harvick. He could have got even Sunday but he knew he had it coming last year. I am not saying free for all but I would bet my last dollar if Jr would have got the 29 loose and hung on to win...or even if he didn't win not a single driver including Harvick would have held it against him. Sure right after the race Harvick would have bitched in the heat of the moment. After he cooled off and watched the replay he would have thought good move! On the track you have to be respected and Jr is too nice IMO~

RNR
04-04-2011, 03:07 PM
The idea that points racing wasn't prominent prior to the chase is pretty ****ing ridiculous.

No shit~

RNR
04-04-2011, 05:07 PM
Standings have been updated in OP

I gave rep again, you have and continue to do a outstanding job on this thread. Along with Dylan I would stack this on going effort with any thread ever on ChiefsPlanet. The both of you provide a great place to read and reply about NASCAR. A job well done~

Dylan
04-04-2011, 05:57 PM
As someone else said "unless he just barrelled Harvick over and that would have wrecked them both." and what you are saying I understand. If you watch the tape it was not the first time he had a nose in because you are right it would have put the 29 in the fence. The 2nd time when he went for the cross over he could have got the 29 loose and out of the gas without wrecking him the same dang way he got around the 18 to begin with.

He then could have battled it out with the 18 for the win. When you have not won a race in damn near a 100 races you go for the win there IMO It worked out for me as I pull for the 29 but IMO had his dad or Harvick been in the same exact situation they would have rubbed and ran for the lapped cars. What I don't understand is how doing it to Bush is fine but doing it to Harvick makes him the bad guy some how :spock: He sure as heck could have got the 29 loose and out of the gas without wrecking him...he even said as much in the post race interview~

I respect your opinion. But loose doesn't cut it -- Harvick had the fastest car on the track. And Junior's car was faster than Kyle. Therefore in the crossover, if Junior got Harvick loose and made the pass -- Harvick's super speedy car would of still beat him Junior over the finish line.

I don't care what Junior said during his interview. He's a poor interviewee.

I would also like to point out that Junior is running well this season. He's 8th in points. Junior has a new crew chief - Steve Letarte calling the shots. He is racing in Jeff Gordon's cars. Last year, Gordon's cars were good for the second best driver rating in the Cup series. Plus, they're working in Jimmie Johnson's garage. So why the rush? It's better to finish in 2nd place than finish in 25th place.

I'm curious why you didn't have a problem with Jimmie Johnson the week before, when he chose not to take out Harvick? Johnson was in the nearly identical situation with Harvick at the end of the race in Fontana.

RNR
04-04-2011, 06:01 PM
I respect your opinion. But loose doesn't cut it -- Harvick had the fastest car on the track. But, Junior's was faster than Kyle. Therefore, in the crossover if Junior got Harvick loose and made the pass -- Harvick would of still beat him him over the finish line.

I don't care what Junior said. He's a poor interviewee.

I'm curious why you didn't have a problem with Jimmie Johnson the week before, when he chose not to take out Harvick? Johnson was in the nearly identical situation with Harvick at the end of the race in Fontana.
I would like to point out that Junior is running well this season. He has a new crew chief - Steve Letarte calling the shots. He is racing in Jeff Gordon's cars. Last year, Gordon's cars were good for the second best driver rating in the Cup series. Plus, they're working in Jimmie Johnson's garage. So why the rush?

It's better to finish in 2nd place than finish in 20th place. Just my opinion.
I for one am very happy Jr is running well. And to your question they are two waaaay different tracks. That and JJ has 5 titles and is not in a close to a 100 race drought~

Dylan
04-04-2011, 06:04 PM
RedNeckRaider: The season just began. It ain't over. I'm confident, he'll have more chances of winning a race.

Save your points until you get collected up in someone else's mess.

However, thanks for the support.

RNR
04-04-2011, 06:08 PM
RedNeckRaider: The season just began. It ain't over. I'm confident, he'll have more chances of winning a race.

However, thanks for the support.

Thanks but remember there is a BIG difference between the paperclip and a 200+ mph track...different code~

mlyonsd
04-04-2011, 07:01 PM
I respect your opinion. But loose doesn't cut it -- Harvick had the fastest car on the track. And Junior's car was faster than Kyle. Therefore in the crossover, if Junior got Harvick loose and made the pass -- Harvick's super speedy car would of still beat him Junior over the finish line.


First, I'm an 88 fan. His dad before that.

The Harvick pass was done on lap 497. If Jr. taps him out of the way the chances Harvick could get back to him in a position to do the same thing or pass is slim. Especially since Jr. only gave up the spot because he screwed up all by himself and got loose....the reason Harvick made the pass. It was all on Jr.

I understand you like Earnhardt's honesty and clean racing. Just be advised that will rarely get a win, and never a championship.

You could tell in the post race interview Jr. was seriously upset. Probably at himself.

mlyonsd
04-04-2011, 07:07 PM
LMAO I tried to rep you again but got the old "have to spread it around" I hear what Dylan is saying. What is funny to me is this gee golly I want to be liked thinking. Harvick flat out put the 18 in the fence in the last race last year for clowning around and trying to help his team member beat Harvick. He could have got even Sunday but he knew he had it coming last year. I am not saying free for all but I would bet my last dollar if Jr would have got the 29 loose and hung on to win...or even if he didn't win not a single driver including Harvick would have held it against him. Sure right after the race Harvick would have bitched in the heat of the moment. After he cooled off and watched the replay he would have thought good move! On the track you have to be respected and Jr is too nice IMO~Jr. thinks fans rooting against him is a bad thing. It's fricking stock car racing. Shoving people out of the way is a normal thing.

Dylan
04-04-2011, 07:24 PM
Well guys, You convinced me -- I believe your right. Your points are well taken. Thanks

In that case, Junior needs to work on his confidence he seems to had lost with the last two CC's at Hendricks.

LiveSteam
04-04-2011, 07:26 PM
For you neck car fans
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LiveSteam
04-04-2011, 07:27 PM
O I forgot PING!

Dylan
04-04-2011, 07:31 PM
For you neck car fans
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LiveSteam: Is Starling Merlin in this race?

LiveSteam
04-04-2011, 07:33 PM
LiveSteam: Is Starling Merlin in this race?

I couldn't tell you. What I know about NASCAR is left turns & something to do with prohibition .

Dylan
04-04-2011, 07:44 PM
I couldn't tell you. What I know about NASCAR is left turns & something to do with prohibition .

I'll go into more detail here now and then LMAO:

NASCAR Founder's Grandson Popped for DUI
Posted Oct 8th 2009 4:50PM by TMZ Staff

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) - A grandson of NASCAR founder Bill France was arrested early Thursday on drug charges in Daytona Beach, according to a police report.

J.C. France faces charges of possession of narcotics and driving under the influence. France posted $4,500 bond and was released from Volusia County jail Thursday afternoon.

France, 43, was driving a 2007 green Lamborghini when he was stopped shortly after midnight Thursday. Authorities believe he was racing his half brother, 40-year-old Russell Van Richmond. France failed to stop at a traffic light and swerved on the roadway before coming to a stop in a parking lot.

Richmond, who was driving a 2003 Porsche when he was stopped, reportedly threatened the officer during the arrest.

"No, this is a mistake for you," he told the officer, according to the report. "I'm a France, we own this city."

Authorities continued with the investigation, and Richmond called for their commanding officers.

"You're done," he reportedly told an officer. "Your job is over. This is the biggest mistake ever and your (sic) so done in Daytona."

While conducting a search during the traffic stop, authorities found containers with a "white cakelike substance." The substances gave a presumptive positive reactions for cocaine when they were tested.

Richmond faces two counts of unlawful possession of a controlled substance, driving under the influence and two counts of threatening a police officer. He posted $10,500 bond and was released from custody Thursday.

France is the son of NASCAR board member Jim France and a driver in NASCAR's Grand-Am Series. Richmond is the son of Jim France's ex-wife. The two share a home in Daytona Beach, according to the police report. A telephone number listed for Richmond rang unanswered Thursday evening. A man who answered the phone at a number listed for France said he was not available.

COMMENT

This is the product of several generations of inbreeding.

mlyonsd
04-04-2011, 07:52 PM
Well guys, You convinced me -- I believe your right. Your points are well taken. Thanks

In that case, Junior needs to work on his confidence he seems to had lost with the last two CC's at Hendricks.

It's not his confidence that's the problem. It's his not wanting to be seen as the bad guy. Not a good thing in stock car racing. Never has been. When it becomes the norm we'll have 43 different winners every season.

Believe me I want him to win just as bad as you do. Hendrick is giving him all the tools to win and if he doesn't it's on him. Wish his dad could give him a vision.

Dylan
04-04-2011, 09:26 PM
I'm just getting started with reading information & opinion, made by respected sports journalists that cover NASCAR:

Excerpts from The Charlotte Observer: For Earnhardt, closing out a win can't be easy

It's easy to sit on the couch and list all the things you would have done if you'd been driving Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s car over the final few laps at Martinsville Speedway.

Of course, most of us don't have the slightest idea how to drive a race car, let alone maneuver it around a tricky paperclip-shaped short track with Kevin Harvick bearing down on the bumper.

It's been a long time, though, since he's had to do any defensive driving. Nobody is saying he's forgotten how to protect a lead late in a race, but it's never as easy as it looks on TV, and it certainly wasn't for Earnhardt on Sunday.

Stuck in a 98-race losing streak, in a car that was probably only good for a top-10 finish, he suddenly found himself in position to race for the win. Crew chief Steve Letarte's strategy and some lucky breaks put him right behind Kyle Busch racing for the win late in Sunday's race. Nobody would have been surprised if Earnhardt had run Busch over to knock him out of his way.

But Earnhardt didn't wreck him. He instead patiently worked his way onto Busch's rear bumper, and gave him a little nudge when it was time to take the lead. Was it out of bounds? Absolutely not, and Busch said so himself.

"I was holding him up, so it was good for him," Busch said. "He took the lead. No harm, no foul."

Maybe he should have forced Harvick to move him out of the way. But he didn't, and Harvick, with a faster car, earned it with a solid pass. Then he got back on Harvick's bumper for one last shot at it, and maybe he should have wrecked Harvick to take back the win.

He didn't, though, and his crew chief said that was the right thing to do.

"You can't bump a guy who just ran you down from straightaway back and passed you," Letarte said Monday. "We took it on the chin and understood we were probably a third- or fourth-place car that came home second. And that was all Dale Jr. at the end. I think a lot of people in the sport kind of wrote him off. He hasn't forgotten how to drive, he hasn't lost the desire."

Now Earnhardt will move on this week to Texas, site of his first career win 11 years ago, and where if he doesn't win Saturday night, his losing streak will hit 100 races. But he's got plenty to feel good about right now - he's obviously faster this year, he's eighth in the standings and his 11.2 average finish right now is up from the last two seasons.

And maybe he learned on Sunday that he can get to the front again, and wins might not be that far away. As he reflected, though, on what might have been, he couldn't help but wonder what he could have done differently.

Knowing that there was possibly something that he did that cost him that victory forced him to temper his excitement with the reality.


Read more: http://www.thatsracin.com/2011/04/04/59788/for-earnhardt-closing-out-a-win.html#ixzz1Ic6FXG11

http://www.thatsracin.com/ Few other articles on Harvick & Earnhardt...

Maybe my opinions are not that far off the mark...

Dylan
04-04-2011, 10:04 PM
I'm happy for Harvick: On the virtues of hard work - Camping World Trucks, Nationwide Series & the Sprint Series.


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It took 30 races and a late move past the son of the team's greatest star, but Kevin Harvick finally got Richard Childress Racing a hard-earned Martinsville victory.

Harvick makes another late move, wins again

By Jim Utter - jutter@charlotteobserver.com

MARTINSVILLE, Va. – We’ve seen this before.

In fact, it was just last week. Kevin Harvick battles through adversity and into contention in the final laps and pulls off a stunning win.

While Harvick and his Richard Childress Racing team were celebrating, Earnhardt’s fans were again left to wait. Still, his opportunities for victories appear to grow with each passing week.

Harvick passed Earnhardt cleanly with four of the 500 laps remaining and held on to win Sunday’s Goody’s 500 at Martinsville Speedway.

Last week in Fontana, Calif., Harvick led only the last lap in earning his first Cup win of the season.

He was much more dominant Sunday – he led six.

“Just a great character‑building day for our team,” said Harvick, who earned his first series win at Martinsville.

“I don’t know how many character-building days we can have, but we’ll keep enjoying them as long as we wind up this way.”

Harvick’s team owner, Richard Childress, wanted to see Earnhardt pick up a win as much as anyone – but not at one of his driver’s expense.

“Kevin had to do what he had to do right there at the end and I was proud of him,” Childress said. “It’s just – Dale Junior will win races. He will come back.

“We have been in that situation. We have had a long dry spell, so I know what it meant if he could have won that race.”

Less than two years removed from what Harvick calls his worst season as a driver, he remembers, too. That’s also why he doesn’t take for granted the opportunities he’s had the past two weeks.

“Something that we have only done – I think once before – is win back‑to‑back weeks,” Harvick said.

“To come out this season and win at race tracks that we had not won at before – but we feel like we have been fairly good at the last couple of years – is good for our confidence, to say the least.”

It’s also good for his championship hopes.

He is now fifth in the series standings, and perhaps more importantly, the only driver with more than one win this season. That should bode well in case he needs to utilize NASCAR’s new “wild card” rules to get into the Chase.

“I think when you look at the two wins … I’ll take our chances on making the Chase with the wild card stuff,” Harvick said.

“So here we are, six weeks into the season, and I feel like we can take more chances than we did last year.”


Read more: http://www.thatsracin.com/2011/04/03/59738/harvick-makes-another-late-move.html#ixzz1IcK40IxE

Dylan
04-04-2011, 10:12 PM
I asked LiveSteam: Is Starling Merlin in this race?

God love him, he answered: LMAO

I couldn't tell you. What I know about NASCAR is left turns & something to do with prohibition .

How sweet!

Demonpenz
04-05-2011, 08:22 AM
I forgot to tell you something about the truck race on friday, you know how drivers are now in the habit of when they get spun out they put the hammer down so they can go ahead and flip all the way around to avoid hitting the wall? This one dude tried to do that when he was spun around and floored the gas right into the wall hitting it way harder. Never seen that before.

RNR
04-05-2011, 02:24 PM
I'm just getting started with reading information & opinion, made by respected sports journalists that cover NASCAR:

Excerpts from The Charlotte Observer: For Earnhardt, closing out a win can't be easy

It's easy to sit on the couch and list all the things you would have done if you'd been driving Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s car over the final few laps at Martinsville Speedway.

Of course, most of us don't have the slightest idea how to drive a race car, let alone maneuver it around a tricky paperclip-shaped short track with Kevin Harvick bearing down on the bumper.

It's been a long time, though, since he's had to do any defensive driving. Nobody is saying he's forgotten how to protect a lead late in a race, but it's never as easy as it looks on TV, and it certainly wasn't for Earnhardt on Sunday.

Stuck in a 98-race losing streak, in a car that was probably only good for a top-10 finish, he suddenly found himself in position to race for the win. Crew chief Steve Letarte's strategy and some lucky breaks put him right behind Kyle Busch racing for the win late in Sunday's race. Nobody would have been surprised if Earnhardt had run Busch over to knock him out of his way.

But Earnhardt didn't wreck him. He instead patiently worked his way onto Busch's rear bumper, and gave him a little nudge when it was time to take the lead. Was it out of bounds? Absolutely not, and Busch said so himself.

"I was holding him up, so it was good for him," Busch said. "He took the lead. No harm, no foul."

Maybe he should have forced Harvick to move him out of the way. But he didn't, and Harvick, with a faster car, earned it with a solid pass. Then he got back on Harvick's bumper for one last shot at it, and maybe he should have wrecked Harvick to take back the win.

He didn't, though, and his crew chief said that was the right thing to do.

"You can't bump a guy who just ran you down from straightaway back and passed you," Letarte said Monday. "We took it on the chin and understood we were probably a third- or fourth-place car that came home second. And that was all Dale Jr. at the end. I think a lot of people in the sport kind of wrote him off. He hasn't forgotten how to drive, he hasn't lost the desire."

Now Earnhardt will move on this week to Texas, site of his first career win 11 years ago, and where if he doesn't win Saturday night, his losing streak will hit 100 races. But he's got plenty to feel good about right now - he's obviously faster this year, he's eighth in the standings and his 11.2 average finish right now is up from the last two seasons.

And maybe he learned on Sunday that he can get to the front again, and wins might not be that far away. As he reflected, though, on what might have been, he couldn't help but wonder what he could have done differently.

Knowing that there was possibly something that he did that cost him that victory forced him to temper his excitement with the reality.


Read more: http://www.thatsracin.com/2011/04/04/59788/for-earnhardt-closing-out-a-win.html#ixzz1Ic6FXG11

http://www.thatsracin.com/ Few other articles on Harvick & Earnhardt...

Maybe my opinions are not that far off the mark...

There is some truth there but again what is his crew chief going to say? My guy blew it? he should have bumped and ran? (which in that case 3rd was the worst outcome or a possible win) His crew chief has to back his play and defend it. Jr is showing signs of being a front row guy again, and the last thing he needs is his crew chief throwing him under the bus. Rather people like him or hate him NASCAR is better off with Jr running up front and winning races~

Old Dog
04-05-2011, 04:12 PM
like him or hate him NASCAR is better off with Jr running up front and winning races~

Absolutely. He's also one of those, much like Kyle, that you don't find a whole lot of "middle ground" folks (though I have no real love or hate for either of them). Either you love him or you want to see him 10 laps down (or in the wall).

The #3 was that way as well. My favorite driver back then was the #28 and whoever was the last to put the #3 into the wall until I got to meet him and found out he was a really great guy. I still didn't root FOR him, but I found it really hard to root against him.
RIP Dale

Dylan
04-05-2011, 10:52 PM
There is some truth there but again what is his crew chief going to say? My guy blew it? he should have bumped and ran? (which in that case 3rd was the worst outcome or a possible win) His crew chief has to back his play and defend it. Jr is showing signs of being a front row guy again, and the last thing he needs is his crew chief throwing him under the bus. Rather people like him or hate him NASCAR is better off with Jr running up front and winning races~

RedNeckRaider: Junior was running slower than Harvick. The #29 passed Junior clean. We both know if Harvick was Dale, Sr -- Junior would've hit the wall. Same thing with Kyle. Busch would've normally had a conniption if someone bumped him for the lead. Harvick found his way around Kyle and Junior by racing them clean. If Junior or Kyle had a faster car, they would've battled it out for the lead. But Harvick was faster and that was the difference.

Four fewer laps and Junior would have won. Plain and simple.


And it’s not as if Harvick doesn’t understand what it’s like to be in Dale Earnhardt Jr.’s position.

Just last year, Harvick himself was immersed in a 115-race stretch that spanned almost three full seasons where he failed to win a Cup points-race. A period of time which left him questioning the ability of his team and more importantly himself.

Dylan
04-05-2011, 11:14 PM
Absolutely. He's also one of those, much like Kyle, that you don't find a whole lot of "middle ground" folks (though I have no real love or hate for either of them). Either you love him or you want to see him 10 laps down (or in the wall).

The #3 was that way as well. My favorite driver back then was the #28 and whoever was the last to put the #3 into the wall until I got to meet him and found out he was a really great guy. I still didn't root FOR him, but I found it really hard to root against him.
RIP Dale

"I still didn't root FOR him, but I found it really hard to root against him."
truebigdog: This sentence captures the spirit of a true NASCAR fan.

just my opinion

philfree
04-05-2011, 11:28 PM
The best race game ever is Nascar2003.........Anybody still racin' 2003?


PhilFree:arrow:

Al Bundy
04-06-2011, 06:41 AM
The best race game ever is Nascar2003.........Anybody still racin' 2003?


PhilFree:arrow:

Isn't that the one with Dale JR on the cover? If so then yeah I do, I go the wrong way and take out half the field at Indianapolis.

RNR
04-06-2011, 12:42 PM
RedNeckRaider: Junior was running slower than Harvick. The #29 passed Junior clean. We both know if Harvick was Dale, Sr -- Junior would've hit the wall. Same thing with Kyle. Busch would've normally had a conniption if someone bumped him for the lead. Harvick found his way around Kyle and Junior by racing them clean. If Junior or Kyle had a faster car, they would've battled it out for the lead. But Harvick was faster and that was the difference.

Four fewer laps and Junior would have won. Plain and simple.

I have said the #29 was faster and I agree the #88 could not out run him. I still think he could have rubbed and ran for the lapped cars. 3rd was the worst outcome and a chance at 1st. As far as the in the wall part once again I disagree, nobody needed to hit the wall and I don't think Dale Sr would have put him in the wall in that situation. I think he would have used the same move Jr used to get around the #18 I have watched the end of that race several times and we will just have to agree to disagree on this one :)

Demonpenz
04-06-2011, 01:40 PM
i used to race nascar 2003 doesn't work on my computer anymore

philfree
04-06-2011, 01:47 PM
i used to race nascar 2003 doesn't work on my computer anymore

What did you do wear the disc out?

If so then yeah I do, I go the wrong way and take out half the field at Indianapolis.

I use to boss races and I always enjoyed booting and having peeps banned who did stuff like that.


PhilFree:arrow:

Demonpenz
04-06-2011, 02:04 PM
What did you do wear the disc out?



I use to boss races and I always enjoyed booting and having peeps banned who did stuff like that.


PhilFree:arrow:

yeah the disk was pretty warn out, but I had a boot disk and could play it offline without the disk. I did put tons of hours in it. 6 years ago I raced for money online and made some money back. Fun stuff. Momo Wheel!

Dylan
04-06-2011, 04:07 PM
Isn't that the one with Dale JR on the cover? If so then yeah I do, I go the wrong way and take out half the field at Indianapolis.

to the #88 fans:

i've got this one. don't worry, i've got years of experience.

first i gotta eat dinner. ... http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Dylan
04-06-2011, 04:27 PM
I have said the #29 was faster and I agree the #88 could not out run him. I still think he could have rubbed and ran for the lapped cars. 3rd was the worst outcome and a chance at 1st. As far as the in the wall part once again I disagree, nobody needed to hit the wall and I don't think Dale Sr would have put him in the wall in that situation. I think he would have used the same move Jr used to get around the #18 I have watched the end of that race several times and we will just have to agree to disagree on this one :)

... and pumpkin, Dale Sr would've put Junior in the wall to get around him. Harvick gave him a push to let the 88 know that he had a faster car. But for some reason, you think Junior should've taken Harvick out. Because if Harvick's car remained in one piece, that race would've been red flagged.

Now that you have watched the race several times -- Junior pulled a hell of a crossover on Harvick. His diddy taught him well!

I thought we were going to discuss this: http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Quote:
And it’s not as if Harvick doesn’t understand what it’s like to be in Dale Earnhardt Jr.’s position.

Just last year, Harvick himself was immersed in a 115-race stretch that spanned almost three full seasons where he failed to win a Cup points-race. A period of time which left him questioning the ability of his team and more importantly himself.

RNR
04-07-2011, 04:50 AM
... and pumpkin, Dale Sr would've put Junior in the wall to get around him. Harvick gave him a push to let the 88 know that he had a faster car. But for some reason, you think Junior should've taken Harvick out. Because if Harvick's car remained in one piece, that race would've been red flagged.

Now that you have watched the race several times -- Junior pulled a hell of a crossover on Harvick. His diddy taught him well!

I thought we were going to discuss this: http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Lol not once have I said Jr should have "taken Harvick out" re read what I said. At one point he had a nose in far enough to get him loose. Red flagged...really? Look at that crap Carl Edwards has pulled and there was no flag, and that happened at a super speedway~

Dylan
04-07-2011, 05:04 PM
RedNeckRaider,

But at some point, we all figure out how it works -- Junior led 17/18 laps around the track before Harvick made his winning pass with four to go. What good would've it done to get Harvick loose? Harvick's super fast car would've found his way to the front when it counted the most - when he crossed the checkered flag. You can't beat speed.

And please don't dismiss the Chase. Junior gains more points coming in second than ending up mowing the lawn. NASCAR drivers won't intentionally take another driver because they could loose points.

Please understand there are two types of NASCAR search history - Pre-Chase and Chase.

The Chase ruined NASCAR - It is boring.

Yours truly,

Longtime NASCRAP fan http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Old Dog
04-07-2011, 05:14 PM
Don't make me pull this thread over to seperate you two :)

Dylan
04-07-2011, 05:56 PM
We're watching Kyle Busch and perhaps Carl Edwards mature in front of our eyes so far this season. Anyway, I hope so.

It has taken Busch seven years to understand that to compete at a championship -- you need friends. A Chase driver is up against 11 other drivers instead of 42. You have to learn patience along the way or you dont understand NASCAR's Chase book of history -
During the Chase, drivers are under the scrutiny of the remaining 31 drivers who will help you along the way or completely destroy your day.

Dylan
04-07-2011, 06:00 PM
Don't make me pull this thread over to seperate you two :)

Ah, I'm happy RedNeckRaider takes the time to debate me -- He's a longtime NASCAR fan. And may I add: He's very knowledgeable and can be very persuasive.

He's got a wealth of information wrapped up in his mind. Much more than I have. :thumb:

Bugeater
04-07-2011, 06:31 PM
The Chase ruined NASCAR
Strongly disagree. Sterilized cars, drivers and race tracks ruined NASCAR.

Dylan
04-07-2011, 09:24 PM
Strongly disagree. Sterilized cars, drivers and race tracks ruined NASCAR.

True! I forgot about that...

Dylan
04-07-2011, 09:34 PM
Did You Notice? ... The Real NASCAR Closer

The best late-race bloomer in NASCAR 2011?

The answer will surprise you. The sport’s loop data keeps a statistic marked “closers,” keeping track of how many positions each driver gains in the last 10 percent of each race.

Let’s find out.

2011 Top 5 Closers – Positions Gained In The Last 10 Percent Of Each Race
Juan Pablo Montoya: +31 Spots Gained, 5.2 Average
Kevin Harvick: +22 Spots Gained, 3.7 Avg.
David Gilliland: +20 Spots Gained, 3.3 Avg.
Carl Edwards: +16 Spots Gained, 2.7 Avg.
Brian Vickers: +16 Spots Gained, 2.7 Avg.

Montoya, has been quietly tearing it up even better lately down the stretch.

Here’s a breakdown of how Montoya’s fared in the last ten percent of races:
Daytona – 23rd to sixth (+17)
Phoenix – 23rd to 19th (+4)
Las Vegas – 1st to 3rd (-2)
Bristol – 26th to 24th (+2)
Fontana – 14th to 10th (+4)
Martinsville – 10th to 4th (+6)

Of course, the one that has to stick in his craw is Las Vegas, where Montoya didn’t have the speed of either Carl Edwards or Tony Stewart in the closing stages. But considering last season’s disaster, in which Montoya collected more DNFs (eight) than top-5 finishes (six) a man known to lose his patience has to be thrilled after reeducating himself on how to push the car to the limit. It’s all about balancing aggression enough to finish the race, with Montoya collecting a net gain of 31 points to make the difference between him sitting seventh in the standings and tied for 12th.

“I think we make the most out of it,” he said Friday on how he’s raced different in 2011. “We learn lots here [with his 2010 slump] that you can’t really DNF. We had so many DNF’s and so many wrecks and so many things go wrong; but this year, I think we’re racing a lot smarter.”

Just for comparison’s sake, let’s take a look at Harvick’s second-place numbers:
Daytona – 42nd to 42nd (+/- 0)
Phoenix – 4th to 4th (+/- 0)
Las Vegas – 21st to 17th (+4)
Bristol – 16th to 6th (+10)
Fontana – 6th to 1st (+5)
Martinsville – 4th to 1st (+3)

Not too shabby; note the No. 29 car hasn’t lost a single position in any race over the final 10 percent of laps. For the record, he led this category in 2010, picking up a grand total of 71 positions to equal an average of 2.0 per race.

It’s just this year, Montoya’s been that little bit better, no matter what the commentators might tell you on TV.


http://www.frontstretch.com/tbowles/33445/

RNR
04-08-2011, 09:38 AM
Did You Notice? ... The Real NASCAR Closer

The best late-race bloomer in NASCAR 2011?

The answer will surprise you. The sport’s loop data keeps a statistic marked “closers,” keeping track of how many positions each driver gains in the last 10 percent of each race.

Let’s find out.

2011 Top 5 Closers – Positions Gained In The Last 10 Percent Of Each Race
Juan Pablo Montoya: +31 Spots Gained, 5.2 Average
Kevin Harvick: +22 Spots Gained, 3.7 Avg.
David Gilliland: +20 Spots Gained, 3.3 Avg.
Carl Edwards: +16 Spots Gained, 2.7 Avg.
Brian Vickers: +16 Spots Gained, 2.7 Avg.

Montoya, has been quietly tearing it up even better lately down the stretch.

Here’s a breakdown of how Montoya’s fared in the last ten percent of races:
Daytona – 23rd to sixth (+17)
Phoenix – 23rd to 19th (+4)
Las Vegas – 1st to 3rd (-2)
Bristol – 26th to 24th (+2)
Fontana – 14th to 10th (+4)
Martinsville – 10th to 4th (+6)

Of course, the one that has to stick in his craw is Las Vegas, where Montoya didn’t have the speed of either Carl Edwards or Tony Stewart in the closing stages. But considering last season’s disaster, in which Montoya collected more DNFs (eight) than top-5 finishes (six) a man known to lose his patience has to be thrilled after reeducating himself on how to push the car to the limit. It’s all about balancing aggression enough to finish the race, with Montoya collecting a net gain of 31 points to make the difference between him sitting seventh in the standings and tied for 12th.

“I think we make the most out of it,” he said Friday on how he’s raced different in 2011. “We learn lots here [with his 2010 slump] that you can’t really DNF. We had so many DNF’s and so many wrecks and so many things go wrong; but this year, I think we’re racing a lot smarter.”

Just for comparison’s sake, let’s take a look at Harvick’s second-place numbers:
Daytona – 42nd to 42nd (+/- 0)
Phoenix – 4th to 4th (+/- 0)
Las Vegas – 21st to 17th (+4)
Bristol – 16th to 6th (+10)
Fontana – 6th to 1st (+5)
Martinsville – 4th to 1st (+3)

Not too shabby; note the No. 29 car hasn’t lost a single position in any race over the final 10 percent of laps. For the record, he led this category in 2010, picking up a grand total of 71 positions to equal an average of 2.0 per race.

It’s just this year, Montoya’s been that little bit better, no matter what the commentators might tell you on TV.


http://www.frontstretch.com/tbowles/33445/

Montoya will fade I would bet my last dollar on it~