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Old Dog
01-16-2011, 08:51 AM
Will list favorite drivers in this post as they are submitted. If you have one, let me know and I will include it.


Favorite Drivers
Buck - #48
Bugeater - #14
CaliforniaChiefs #48 #99
Demonpenz - #88
Dannybcaitlyn - #17
factortobe - #88
Gracie Dean - #24, #33
Hydrae - #47
jenksme - #88
kcxiv - #47 #14
kstater - #88
KurtCobain - #4
kyle delexus - #18
R8ers - #18 #11
RedNeckRaider - #29
RubberSponge - #5
Sfeihc - #17 & #2
Sofa King - #88
smittysbar - #99
TrebMaxx - #99 #88
truebigdog - #33
UCFGoldenKnight - #5


CP Fantasy leagues
Yahoo
http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto
Group ID#: 8763
Password: chiefs

ESPN
http://games.espn.go.com/stock-car-challenge/en/frontpage
Public group named "KC Chiefs fans"

RedNeckRaider
01-16-2011, 08:59 AM
One of you pute smart people should post the new paint schemes in this thread. I am only smart enough to post thumbnails~

Bugeater
01-16-2011, 09:05 AM
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RedNeckRaider
01-16-2011, 09:34 AM
Here is a preview I found on youtube~
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Old Dog
01-16-2011, 09:42 AM
Dewalt on the #9 just doesn't look right to me

kstater
01-16-2011, 09:43 AM
http://jayski.com/schemes/2011cup.htm

RedNeckRaider
01-16-2011, 09:48 AM
http://jayski.com/schemes/2011cup.htm

I posted that page on the 2010 thread and had not got around to posting it on this one~

Al Bundy
01-16-2011, 09:51 AM
Put me down as #5 as my favorite car.

Demonpenz
01-16-2011, 10:36 AM
I like Dale Earnhardt Jr is he still #88?

dannybcaitlyn
01-16-2011, 11:24 AM
Dewalt on the #9 just doesn't look right to me

I agree!

Put me down
Dannybcaitlyn - #17

RedNeckRaider
01-16-2011, 05:02 PM
Rep for a dang fine job on the thread! We should have had you runnning this thing all along~

CoMoChief
01-16-2011, 06:25 PM
First in with this:

http://www.themahoganyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/nascar-boring.jpg

Spott
01-16-2011, 06:32 PM
Dewalt on the #9 just doesn't look right to me

I'm glad Dewalt is back to being a sponsor this year. I've always like that Black and Gold color scheme.

Kyle DeLexus
01-16-2011, 08:22 PM
Rep for a dang fine job on the thread! We should have had you runnning this thing all along~

Agreed. I like the setup.

WebGem
01-16-2011, 08:23 PM
NASCAR ROFL

Bugeater
01-16-2011, 08:32 PM
NASCAR ROFL
It's something to do on Sundays after football season ends. Well at least until the weather gets nice.

Dylan
01-16-2011, 10:12 PM
Thanks truebigdog!

My Drivers:

*Dale Earnhardt #88*
Kyle Busch #18
Juan Montoya #42
Tony Stewart #14
Brad Kewelowski #12


In addition to the drivers above, I was fond of Denny Hamlin #12. Hamlin drove for Joe Gibbs Racing in NASCAR Busch Series. As Hamlin made the move to the Cup Series, his mentality every weekend is to rub drivers the wrong way. Anyone who follows NASCAR knows that it’s harder to pass a car than it is to wreck a car. Hamlin intentionally wrecks drivers.

Hamlin is talented. I don't have an issue with his aggressive driving style. I was a huge Earnhardt, Sr. fan. But if Earnhardt was behind you, you'd better have a faster car or else he would move you. Earnhardt's creed was, "lead, follow, or get out of the way."

Hamlin has to reach a higher level of maturity. Surprisingly, I could start to root for him again.

Bugeater
01-16-2011, 10:16 PM
Um, Dylan, you misspelled Keselwos...no...Kezelow...err...Keselewol...ahhh fuck it.

Dylan
01-16-2011, 10:19 PM
I like Dale Earnhardt Jr is he still #88?

#88! :D

http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/57/18/56391857/photos/2011-NASCAR-Nationwide-Paint-Schemes/2011%20GT%20Vodka%20Paint%20Scheme%20for%20Arica%20Almoria%2088%20Chevy%20Nationwide%20Series.jpg

Dylan
01-16-2011, 10:20 PM
Um, Dylan, you misspelled Keselwos...no...Kezelow...err...Keselewol...ahhh **** it.

LMAO

It's like spelling Palamalahoohoo or Rothlekr;poerj'awpmj/;lgkjger

Dylan
01-16-2011, 10:25 PM
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/customavatars/avatar2596_16.gif

are you a seahawks fan? cool. hi, i'm dylan o:-)

Bugeater
01-16-2011, 10:27 PM
I don't have any freaking idea what that logo is. It's not the Seahawks.

Dylan
01-16-2011, 10:48 PM
o.i.c.

Kyle DeLexus
01-16-2011, 11:14 PM
Thanks truebigdog!

My Drivers:

*Dale Earnhardt #88*
Kyle Busch #18
Juan Montoya #42
Tony Stewart #14
Brad Kewelowski #12


In other words, put Dylan down for the field. ROFL

Old Dog
01-17-2011, 09:00 AM
I know a lot of us have "secondary " drivers. It helps when some chugglehead puts your guy in the wall.

RedNeckRaider
01-17-2011, 09:26 AM
I know a lot of us have "secondary " drivers. It helps when some chugglehead puts your guy in the wall.

I pull for all RCR drivers. The reason I follow the 29 is because it is Dale Sr old car and so I have a soft spot for his son also. I was not thrilled with his move to Hendrick and it appears he has run out of talent~

Old Dog
01-17-2011, 09:40 AM
I started to put "least favorite drivers" in the header as well, but there are too many of mine that fall directly in line with favorites of others. Specifically the #88, #24, #48, and often the #29.
Dale Sr was my least favorite of all time. For the same reason as some of the ones above. If he put you in the wall it was a "racing thing". If you put him in the wall it was a travesty and you were reckless.

dannybcaitlyn
01-17-2011, 09:50 AM
I pull for all RCR drivers. The reason I follow the 29 is because it is Dale Sr old car and so I have a soft spot for his son also. I was not thrilled with his move to Hendrick and it appears he has run out of talent~

Well im a huge Matt kenseth fan and the others drivers I like are total opposite of Matt. These two can stir the pot on occasion. So I get a kick out of kyle busch and kevin harvick.

Old Dog
01-18-2011, 06:56 AM
from ESPN:
Report: NASCAR mulls points overhaul

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- NASCAR is considering scrapping the points system it has used since 1975 in favor of a simpler method that awards points per finishing position, The Associated Press has learned.

The overhauling of the system is one of a handful of changes NASCAR is considering implementing before the season begins next month. Series officials have been detailing their ideas in individual meetings with teams, a person who attended one of the briefings told The AP on Monday.

The person spoke to The AP on condition of anonymity because NASCAR has not finalized its upcoming changes.

The sanctioning body wants to go to a scoring system that would award 43 points to the race winner, and one point less for each ensuing position down to one point for the 43rd-place finisher.

NASCAR is also shying away from wholesale changes to its Chase for the Sprint Cup championship format.

NASCAR chairman Brian France floated the idea last July of shaking up the Chase to create more drama to the 10-week series that determines the Cup champion. Among France's suggestions were widening the 12-driver field, instituting elimination rounds, and adding any other drama that could create "Game 7" type moments rivaling those from other professional sports leagues.

But teams have been told NASCAR is leaning toward keeping it a 12-driver field, with one caveat: The top 10 drivers following the 26th race of the season would qualify for the Chase, while the remaining two spots would go to the drivers with the most wins who are not already eligible for the Chase.

NASCAR officials have also told teams they aren't leaning toward adding eliminations.

Preseason testing begins Thursday at Daytona International Speedway, and NASCAR president Mike Helton and vice president of competition Robin Pemberton are scheduled to discuss some of the changes planned for 2011.

But the major announcements aren't scheduled until next week when France makes a presentation during Charlotte Motor Speedway's annual media tour.

France and his top officials found themselves in a precarious position at the end of last season, which was marked by the closest championship race in seven years. France had already publicly toyed with the idea of changing the Chase, which was implemented in 2004 to spice up NASCAR's championship system.

"Right now every sports league, or almost every one, is looking at what they need to do to change their formats a little or a lot, depending on who they are, to make sure their playoffs or their championship runs are what they want them to be," France said two days before the November season finale.

Three drivers went into the season finale eligible to win the championship. It went to Jimmie Johnson, who overcame a 15-point deficit to Denny Hamlin in the final race to win his record fifth consecutive title.

Because the system seemingly worked as the Chase played out last season, sweeping changes did not seem necessary.

The points system, though, apparently is a different matter.

NASCAR legend claims the current system was devised on a napkin over drinks at a Daytona bar in 1974 and implemented the next season. The complicated scoring method gives 175 points to the winner, and decreases in increments of five points and then three points down to 34 points for the last-place finisher.

Five-point bonuses are awarded for leading a lap, and to the driver who leads the most laps.

NASCAR is still debating how to award bonuses under a straight points system, and ideas being considered are for anywhere from one to three points being given to lap leaders and race winners.

RedNeckRaider
01-18-2011, 09:25 AM
JJ loves the chase and it is the reason for his great run. Jeff Gordon has been screwed out a couple times and Harvick would have won the title by close to 300 points last year in the old format. How can there be no reward for leading the points for the last 26 weeks of the season? He started out third in the chase :rolleyes: NASCAR trying to change to get new fans and there was nothing wrong with the original system to begin with~

CaliforniaChief
01-18-2011, 09:29 AM
*shields my head from the Bud bottles*

Put me down as a big #48 fan. Yeah, yeah. I HATED NASCAR until my oldest son got into it (I have no idea how.), and he's a #48 fan so I'm with him. If that's heresy around here, my second favorite driver is the #99.

Old Dog
01-20-2011, 07:52 AM
winter testing on speed.com right now
on the speed channel at 4:00 this afternoon

Old Dog
01-22-2011, 01:42 PM
Possible qualifying change? I like this one.

(from jayski)

Change in Sprint Cup qualifying?
NASCAR is considering a new system that would change the order of qualifying. Instead of drawing for qualifying order as teams have done in previous seasons, the qualifying order would at least in part be determined by speed in the practice prior to qualifying. Teams in the Camping World Truck Series already use the system [a few times in 2010]. "It is a possibility. & We're throwing a bunch of ideas around in the meetings with the teams," NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Director John Darby said Friday. "We want to finish all the meetings, get everybody's input and then finalize some stuff." The idea is to have the faster drivers, the ones who will challenge for the pole, qualify near the end of the session and add drama to the qualifying show. It is possible that the drivers not locked in the field because their teams are outside the top 35 in owner points will still be grouped together at the end of the session.

Dylan
01-22-2011, 06:28 PM
New year will bring several more changes to NASCAR.
- New Car
- New Restrictor Plate
- New Tire Rule
- New Fuel
- New Qualifying Rules
- New Points Rules
- New Points System
- New Chase

Another idea that has been getting a lot of talk is the new points system. It appears that NASCAR will scrap the points system it has used since 1975 in favor of a simpler method that awards points per finishing position. The likely new system would award 43 points to the race winner, and one point less for each ensuing position down to one point for the 43rd-place finisher. Drivers would be awarded bonus points for winning a race. In all honesty, it does not matter to the drivers what the points system is, whether its 180 points to win or 43, they will still race as hard as ever.

http://www.baynews9.com/article/sports/2011/january/199309/NASCAR-Sprint-Cup-Series:-Daytona-Delights

Dylan
01-22-2011, 06:34 PM
WTF Moments in NASCAR 1

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Bugeater
01-22-2011, 08:59 PM
New year will bring several more changes to NASCAR.
- New Car
- New Restrictor Plate
- New Tire Rule
- New Fuel
- New Qualifying Rules
- New Points Rules
- New Points System
- New Chase

And more suck!

kstater
01-22-2011, 09:05 PM
And more suck!

To be fair, there aren't too many major changes:


- New Car (New model "specific" noses, remove the splitter. Good)
- New Restrictor Plate(They change the damn thing every race, no big deal. Smaller plate likely because the new, fast, asphalt=probably more exciting Daytona unless they ride in protest like last year. Good)
- New Tire Rule( Not sure about this)
- New Fuel (Ethanol. No difference)
- New Qualifying Rules (Change the order, no difference unless you actually watch qualifying)
- New Points Rules(No difference. Literally it makes no damn difference whether 1st=43 points or 175 points)

- New Chase (actually be kind of cool if they deliver. 2 guys with most wins outside of top 10=chase._

chefsos
01-22-2011, 10:42 PM
Possible qualifying change? I like this one.

(from jayski)

Change in Sprint Cup qualifying?
NASCAR is considering a new system that would change the order of qualifying. Instead of drawing for qualifying order as teams have done in previous seasons, the qualifying order would at least in part be determined by speed in the practice prior to qualifying. Teams in the Camping World Truck Series already use the system [a few times in 2010]. "It is a possibility. & We're throwing a bunch of ideas around in the meetings with the teams," NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Director John Darby said Friday. "We want to finish all the meetings, get everybody's input and then finalize some stuff." The idea is to have the faster drivers, the ones who will challenge for the pole, qualify near the end of the session and add drama to the qualifying show. It is possible that the drivers not locked in the field because their teams are outside the top 35 in owner points will still be grouped together at the end of the session.Can you say, "sandbagging"? :)

Quite often conditions in a qualifying round favor the guys who go out early in the session. We've all seen it.

Dylan
01-23-2011, 12:09 AM
Brian France for President in 2014 said:Jan 20, 2011

I want to thank all the fans for all the support you have given our sport through the years. Its been one heck of a ride. Tickets are still available for the Daytona 500 starting at $5 on the roof of the dog track a half mile away. Free parking always just be sure to leave your cash and valuables in the car so I can break into it while you're watching the race. Thank You very much.

PS, I will also except a bottle of Scotch for a ticket.

big fan said:Jan 20, 2011 at 7:10 PM
Las Vegas odds are already in favor of JR winning the Daytona 500 because it is the 10th Anniversary of his dads death. Make it happen BRIAN!!! I got a $100 on him already...

Brian France for President in 2014 said:Jan 20, 2011 at 7:21 PM
I've got you covered. We're giving him that special plate again. The one from the July 4th race where I made a cool million off of Helton.

Wikileaks said:Jan 20, 2011 at 8:27 PM
Mr France,

You have my vote too but I would need all the internal documents from your office to Hendrick Motorsports and all the bank transactions for the last 5 years regarding the payoffs from Hendrick Motorsports.

Sincerely,

Julian

The Year: 2051
The Place: Daytona 500

Dale Earnhardt Jr. age 76, is preparing for another Daytona 500. The perennial fan favorite is hoping to finally get it right after another season of frustration. Earnhardt's new crew chief, Chad Knauss Jr, is hoping to change the luck of Earnhardt Jr, who has not won a Viagra Cup race since 2008 in Michigan. Earnhardt's new car owner, Leo Benjamin Gordon, son of Nascar legend Jeff Gordon, is hoping the crew chief change will bring a championship for Earnhardt Jr. Gordon says, "He's been sticking around for a long time and we're confident he's going to get it right".

ASSCAR' crazies are back!!! LMAO

Dylan
01-23-2011, 10:32 AM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/assets/110122081000-gas-cans-t1-horizontal.jpg

Fill 'er up

Sfeihc
01-23-2011, 11:00 AM
For all you old timers. Awesome Bill from Dawsonville will drive the #90 for Pheonix Racing this season in 18 races. This is the first time that Elliott will start the season driving a Chevy. Hell hath frozen over, me thinks!

jenksme
01-23-2011, 12:15 PM
mne is 88!!! Go Junior!!!!

dannybcaitlyn
01-23-2011, 01:53 PM
For all you old timers. Awesome Bill from Dawsonville will drive the #90 for Pheonix Racing this season in 18 races. This is the first time that Elliott will start the season driving a Chevy. Hell hath frozen over, me thinks!

He has a son named Chase that he is grooming into helluva a driver. Already winning big races and don't even have a drivers license yet.

Old Dog
01-24-2011, 11:39 AM
Created a Fantasy league on Yahoo if anyone is interested just for the fun of it.

Info below as well as in the OP

http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto
Group ID#: 8763
Password: Chiefs

Dylan
01-24-2011, 04:03 PM
very cool, truebigdog!



Info below as well as in the OP

http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto
Group ID#: 8763
Password: Chiefs

i'm lost...

Dylan
01-24-2011, 04:14 PM
For all you old timers. Awesome Bill from Dawsonville will drive the #90 for Pheonix Racing this season in 18 races. This is the first time that Elliott will start the season driving a Chevy. Hell hath frozen over, me thinks!

Drivers Nicknames

Current Drivers:
"The Biff" Greg Biffle
“The Buckeye Bullet” Dave Blaney
Kurt Busch - "Ears"
Kyle Busch - "Rowdy," "Shrub"
Dale Earnhardt Jr. - "Junior," "Junebug", "Little 'E'"
"Cousin Carl" Edwards
Jeff Gordon - "Wonder Boy," "The Kid," "The Rainbow Warrior"
Robby "Flash" Gordon
Kevin "Happy" Harvick
Ron Hornaday - "Master of the Restart"
Joey "Sliced Bread" Logano
Mark Martin "Mr. Consistency"
"Front Row Joe" Nemechek
Ryan "Rocketman" Newman
Elliott Sadler - The 'Candyman'
Jimmy Spencer - "Mr. Excitement"
"Big Track Jack" Sprague
Tony "Smoke" Stewart - "The Rushville Rocket"
Kenny Wallace - "Herman the German", “The Hermanator”

Past Drivers:
"Pole or DNQ" Loy Allen Jr
Elzie Wylie "Buck" Baker Sr.
Elzie Wylie "Buddy" Baker Jr. - "The Gentle Giant"
Robert “Red” Byron
Curtis "Crawfish" Crider
Dale Earnhardt - " Intimidator," "The Man In Black," "Ironhead," "One Tough Customer"
Ralph Earnhardt - "Ironheart"
"Million Dollar Bill" Elliott - "Awesome Bill from Dawsonville"
Charles "Red" Farmer
Truman “Fonty” Flock
"Handsome Harry" Gant - "Mr. September", “The Skoal Bandit”
Raymond “Friday” Hassler
"Gentleman Jimmy" Hensley
Ernie "Swervin" Irvan
"Gentleman Ned" Jarrett
Junior Johnson - "The Ronda Road Runner"

Roy "Buckshot" Jones
"Texas Terry" Labonte - "Ice Man", "Iron Man"
Fred Lorenzen - "The Golden Boy", "Fearless Freddie", "Elmhurst Express", "Fastback Freddie"
DeWayne "Tiny" Lund
Clifton “Coo Coo” Marlin
Rusty "Rubberhead" Wallace.
Edwin “Banjo” Matthews
Mike "Magic Shoes" McLaughlin
Everett "Cotton" Owens – “King of the Modifieds”
David Pearson - "The Silver Fox"
Richard Petty - "The King," "King Richard"
“Tiger” Tom Pistone
Glenn "Fireball" Roberts
"Alfalfa Jim" Roper
Ricky "Rooster" Rudd - "Ironman"
Wayman "Hut" Stricklin
Marshall Teague “King of the Beach”
Albert “Speedy” Thompson”
Curtis "Pops" Turner - "The Blond Blizzard of Virginia"
Roy Tyner “The Flying Indian”
Darrell Waltrip - "DW," "Jaws", Darrell Cartrip (in the movie Cars)
"Little Joe" Weatherly - "The Clown Prince of Racing"
Cale Yarborough - "The Timmonsville Flash"
Henry "Smokey" Yunick

Other:
Fans of Boris Said - "Said Heads"
Fans of Dale Jr - "Jr Nation"
"Buschwhackers" - Cup drivers in the Busch Series

Dylan
01-24-2011, 04:16 PM
Owners:
Roger Penske - "The Captain"
Jack Roush - "The Cat in the Hat"
Glen Wood - "Woodchopper"

Tracks:
Bristol Motor Speedway - "Thunder Valley"
Charlotte/Lowe’s Motor Speedway – “The Beast of the Southeast”
Darlington Raceway - "The Lady in Black," "The Track Too Tough To Tame"
Daytona International Speedway - "World Center of Racing"
Dover International Speedway - "The Monster Mile," "White Lightning"
Indianapolis Motor Speedway - "The Brickyard"
Martinsville Speedway - "The "Augusta National" of race tracks, "The Paperclip"
New Hampshire International Speedway - "The Magic Mile"
Phoenix International Speedway - "Jewel of the Desert"
Pocono International Raceway - "The Bermuda Triangle"
Richmond International Speedway - "The Action Track"
Rockingham Motor Speedway - "The Rock", "Markingham"
Sears Point/Infineon's former pit road overflow - "Gilligan's Island"
Texas Motor Speedway - "The Great American Speedway"
Watkins Glen International - "The Glen"

Old Dog
01-25-2011, 07:50 AM
i'm lost...
Where are you lost at? I'll try to help.

Old Dog
01-26-2011, 04:54 PM
from jayski.com
Chase will go to top 10, plus 2 biggest winners: Twelve NASCAR Sprint Cup drivers will make the Chase for the Sprint Cup in 2011 -- the top 10 in points and the two drivers not in the top 10 who have the most race victories in NASCAR's 26-race regular season. NASCAR Chairman and CEO Brian France is expected to confirm that arrangement, along with a points system that gives 43 points to race winners and then one-point increments down to just one point for the last-place finisher. Each driver who leads a lap will get one bonus point, and regular-season race winners are expected to get two or three Chase bonus points for each victory. There will be no knockout rounds in the Chase, as NASCAR had hinted at earlier

KurtCobain
01-26-2011, 04:59 PM
Number FOUR Kasey Kahne is my dude. I also root for Tony Stewart because he's ****ing badass, but I don't pay attention enough to know what his number is now.

Old Dog
01-26-2011, 05:08 PM
Tony is the #14, OP Edited

KurtCobain
01-26-2011, 05:11 PM
Tony is the #14, OP Edited

Not a bad number, who's sponsoring him now?

But yeah, put me down for number 4 and 14. Never been too big on Nascar, just following Kahne with some friends the last few years, but this year I plan to check it out more. I went to Kansas Speedway last year and it was an awesome experience.

Buck
01-26-2011, 05:16 PM
These are some pretty good changes.

Old Dog
01-26-2011, 05:37 PM
New Qualifying Procedure  The qualifying order will be set based upon slowest to fastest practice speeds.
Inclement Weather Qualifying  If bad weather cancels qualifying, the final starting lineup will be determined by practice speeds. The same rule book procedures will be used to determine eligibility to start a race. If weather cancels practice sessions, then the starting lineup will be set by points, per the rule book.

Old Dog
01-26-2011, 05:41 PM
Not a bad number, who's sponsoring him now?

But yeah, put me down for number 4 and 14. Never been too big on Nascar, just following Kahne with some friends the last few years, but this year I plan to check it out more. I went to Kansas Speedway last year and it was an awesome experience.

Yeah, NASCAR is MUCH more interesting live than it is on TV IMO.
The #14's Primary sponsors are Office Depot for 22 races, Burger King for 2, and (unbeknownst to me until I looked it up just now) Mobil1 for 11 races this year.

Spott
01-26-2011, 06:18 PM
from jayski.com
Chase will go to top 10, plus 2 biggest winners: Twelve NASCAR Sprint Cup drivers will make the Chase for the Sprint Cup in 2011 -- the top 10 in points and the two drivers not in the top 10 who have the most race victories in NASCAR's 26-race regular season. NASCAR Chairman and CEO Brian France is expected to confirm that arrangement, along with a points system that gives 43 points to race winners and then one-point increments down to just one point for the last-place finisher. Each driver who leads a lap will get one bonus point, and regular-season race winners are expected to get two or three Chase bonus points for each victory. There will be no knockout rounds in the Chase, as NASCAR had hinted at earlier

That may backfire on Nascar if a driver like Boris Said or Marcos Ambrose win both the road coarses and get into the chase.

big nasty kcnut
01-26-2011, 06:31 PM
wait no love for big dick trickle.

Dylan
01-26-2011, 06:32 PM
Where are you lost at? I'll try to help.


Info below as well as in the OP

http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto
Group ID#: 8763 --
Password: Chiefs

I can't find the screen to enter Group ID# and password.

truebigdog -- What does OP stand for? (please dont laugh...)

TIA

Fruit Ninja
01-26-2011, 06:44 PM
I hope my guy can compete, but i seriously doubt it, but ill always root for Bobby!!!!!!!

I also like Stewart, he's a bad ass like someone said, how can you not like him. lol

Chiefs Pantalones
01-26-2011, 06:51 PM
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Dylan
01-26-2011, 08:07 PM
Daytona 500 is the most exciting track on the NASCAR circuit. It's also of the the world's ten most dangerous racetracks.

2010 Daytona 500: Jamie McMurray Wins -- McMurray held off Dale Jr. to win the Daytona 500. I agree with DW, "He looked like daddy coming through there." Jr moved up 10 positions in one lap -- going from 10th to 2nd. All Jr needed was 1/2 a lap and he would've won.

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Dylan
01-26-2011, 08:13 PM
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/06/340x_daytona_900.jpg

Daytona International Speedway

Fatalities: 28 (Drivers)

Major Incident: The death of Dale Earnhardt on the final lap of the 2001 Daytona 500 is certainly the one of the most legendary. Racing for his second win at the 500, Earnhardt hit the wall at about 160 mph, killing him instantly. It was referred to as Black Sunday by the Sporting Press, a title that it keeps to this day.

Why It's Dangerous: According to the Orlando Sentinel, since its opening in 1959 Daytona International Speedway has claimed 28 drivers. The track is banked at 31 degrees in the corners, and 18 degrees on the start/finish straight.

Racing related deaths at Daytona

February 9, 2004

Racing related deaths at Daytona International Speedway since the track opened in 1959:

1. Marshall Teague, NASCAR stock car practice, Feb. 11, 1959.

2. George Amick, USAC 100-mile race, April 4, 1959.

3. Dr. Bernie Taylor, powerboat race in infield lake, June 14, 1959.

4. Harold Haberling, NASCAR stock car practice, Feb. 21, 1964.

5. Billy Drew Wade, NASCAR stock car tire test, Jan. 5, 1965.

6. Don MacTavish, Sportsman 300 race, Feb. 21, 1969.

7. Wayne Harris Bartz, lightweight motorcycle race, March 12, 1969.

8. Talmadge "Tab" Prince, Twin 125-mile qualifying race, Feb. 19, 1970.

9. Joe "Rusty" Bradley, Daytona 200 race, March 14, 1971.

10. Davd Pearl, Paul Whiteman Trophy Race, July 30, 1971.

11. Friday Hassler, Twin 125-mile NASCAR qualifying race, Feb. 17, 1972.

12. Ricky Knotts, Twin 125-mile NASCAR qualifying race, Feb. 14, 1980.

13. Francis Affleck, ARCA stock car practice, Feb. 7, 1985.

14. Dr. Charles Ogle, stock car testing, injured Dec. 15, 1985, died Dec. 26, 1985.

15. Bruce Jacobi, Twin 125-mile NASCAR qualifying race, injured Feb. 1983, died Feb. 4, 1987.

16. Joe Young, Charlotte-Daytona Dash race, Feb. 13, 1987.

17. James Kolman, kart testing, Dec. 27, 1987.

18. Randy Glenn, motorcycle practice, Feb. 26, 1988.

19. Don Williams, Sportsman 300 race, injured Feb. 1979, died May 21, 1989.

20. Dale Robertson, kart race, Dec. 27, 1989.

21. Julius Johnson, ARCA 200 stock car race, injured Feb. 11, 1990, died Feb. 14, 1990.

22. Joe Booher, Florida 200 Dash race, Feb. 12, 1993.

23. James Adamo, motorcyle race, March 7, 1993.

24. Neil Bonnett, NASCAR stock car practice, Feb. 11, 1994.

25. Rodney Orr, NASCAR stock car practice, Feb. 14, 1994.

26. Michael Himes, IMSA Two-Hour endurance race, Jan. 31, 1997.

27. Dale Earnhardt, NASCAR Daytona 500, Feb. 18, 2001.

28. Roy H. Weaver III, Dash Series race, Feb. 8, 2003


Source: The Orlando Sentinel, Motorsport Memorial

Old Dog
01-27-2011, 07:54 AM
I can't find the screen to enter Group ID# and password.

truebigdog -- What does OP stand for? (please dont laugh...)

TIA

Original Post, Dear there's NO WAY I could laugh at someone not knowing something on the interweb....I'm almost as computer illiterate as they get.

As for the other though, do this:
Click the link
click "sign up now"
Enter your Yahoo ID and Password
Enter info on Create team page and click continue
Join a group
select, "join a private group"
then enter group ID # and Password

Sofa King
01-27-2011, 08:27 AM
Throw me up there for Dale Jr. as well. i really wish he'd stop being such a bitch and win some damn races.

Old Dog
01-27-2011, 11:11 AM
That may backfire on Nascar if a driver like Boris Said or Marcos Ambrose win both the road coarses and get into the chase.

True, but in order to get in via number of wins they would also have to be in the top 20 in points.

Dylan
02-03-2011, 07:22 PM
NASCAR Schedule

Date Race Location Radio TV
2/12/2011 Budweiser Shootout Daytona Int'l Speedway MRN, 7:30 p.m. ET FOX
2/20/2011 Daytona 500 Daytona Int'l Speedway MRN, Noon ET FOX
3/6/2011 Kobalt Tools 400 Las Vegas Motor Speedway PRN FOX
3/20/2011 Food City 500 Bristol Motor Speedway PRN FOX
3/27/2011 Auto Club Speedway Auto Club Speedway MRN, 2 p.m. ET FOX
4/3/2011 Goody's Fast Pain Relief 500 Martinsville Speedway MRN, Noon ET FOX
4/9/2011 Samsung Mobile 500 Texas Motor Speedway PRN FOX
4/17/2011 Aaron's 499 Talladega Superspeedway MRN, Noon ET FOX
4/30/2011 Crown Royal Presents The Your Name Here 400 Richmond Int'l Raceway MRN, 6:30 p.m. ET FOX
5/7/2011 Showtime Southern 500 Darlington Raceway MRN, 6:30 p.m. ET FOX
5/15/2011 Dover 400 Dover Int'l Speedway MRN, Noon ET FOX
5/21/2011 NASCAR Sprint All-Star Race Charlotte Motor Speedway MRN, 6:30 p.m. ET SPEED
5/29/2011 Coca-Cola 600 Charlotte Motor Speedway PRN FOX
6/5/2011 Kansas 400 Kansas Speedway MRN, Noon ET FOX
6/12/2011 Pocono 500 Pocono Raceway MRN, Noon ET FOX
6/19/2011 Heluva Good! Sour Cream Dips 400 Michigan Int'l Speedway MRN, Noon ET FOX
6/26/2011 Toyota/Save Mart 350 Infineon Raceway PRN
7/2/2011 Coke Zero 400 Daytona Int'l Speedway MRN, 6:30 p.m. ET
7/17/2011 LENOX Industrial Tools 301 New Hampshire Motor Speedway PRN
7/31/2011 Brickyard 400 Indianapolis Motor Speedway IMS
8/7/2011 Pennsylvania 500 Pocono Raceway MRN, Noon ET
8/14/2011 Heluva Good! Sour Cream Dips at the Glen Watkins Glen International MRN, Noon ET
8/21/2011 Michigan 400 Michigan Int'l Speedway MRN, Noon ET
8/27/2011 IRWIN Tools Night Race Bristol Motor Speedway PRN
9/4/2011 Atlanta 500 Atlanta Motor Speedway PRN
9/10/2011 One Last Race To Make The Chase Richmond Int'l Raceway MRN, 6:30 p.m. ET
9/18/2011 Chicagoland 400 Chicagoland Speedway MRN, 6:30 p.m. ET
9/25/2011 Sylvania 300 New Hampshire Motor Speedway PRN
10/2/2011 AAA 400 Dover Int'l Speedway MRN, Noon ET
10/9/2011 Kansas 400 Kansas Speedway MRN, Noon ET
10/15/2011 Bank of America 500 Charlotte Motor Speedway PRN
10/23/2011 Talladega 500 Talladega Superspeedway MRN, Noon ET
10/30/2011 TUMS Fast Relief 500 Martinsville Speedway MRN, Noon ET
11/6/2011 Texas 500 Texas Motor Speedway PRN
11/13/2011 Kobalt Tools 500 Phoenix Int'l Raceway MRN, 2:00 p.m. ET
11/20/2011 Ford 400 Homestead-Miami Speedway MRN, Noon ET

Bugeater
02-03-2011, 07:40 PM
19. Don Williams, Sportsman 300 race, injured Feb. 1979, died May 21, 1989.
The track killed him 10 years later?

Old Dog
02-04-2011, 07:13 AM
The track killed him 10 years later?

According to everything I could find they are saying he died due to injuries received in the crash. He was in a vegetative state after the crash.

This wreck actually was caused by a car not seen in this video.

Before this video footage begins, Jack Ingram lost an engine and slowed drastically. #43 Freddie Smith (the car seen in the first ten seconds here) spins and is struck by #50 Joe Fresson. Fresson is the car that comes to a stop further down and nailed by #04 Delma Cowart, resulting in the fiery crash.

Don Williams is in the #68 is the car seen at 0:20 going backwards from the wall.



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KurtCobain
02-04-2011, 05:54 PM
knock 14 off my name please, his blogs piss me off.

Let's go Kasey!

Old Dog
02-05-2011, 11:35 AM
Created a fantasy league on ESPN as well if anyone wants to play their version as well. It's a public group named KC Chiefs fans
http://games.espn.go.com/stock-car-challenge/en/frontpage

RedNeckRaider
02-05-2011, 01:56 PM
Lets do this Daytona thing~

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Old Dog
02-07-2011, 01:19 PM
Speed is airing a reflection on the 10th anniversary of the death of Dale Earnhardt in a one-hour special titled The Day: Remembering Dale Earnhardt Feb. 11 at 6:30.

Thought some #3 fans might be interested

It will run right before the Bud Shootout selection show

Dylan
02-07-2011, 09:02 PM
Wow ... Formula 1 driver Robert Kubica was seriously injured Sunday in a Rally car crash in Italy just a few weeks out of the start of the F1 season. Tough break. Kubica is rising star in Formula 1 series. :(

Guess not anymore!

Please dear God forgive me & please surpress my dark ass nascrap humor -- gotta go & logout! Fast!

http://www.formula1.com/results/driver/2010/815.html


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CNN) -- Formula One driver Robert Kubica has suffered serious injuries after crashing a car during a rally in Italy -- his Lotus Renault team have confirmed.

The 26-year-old Pole lost control of his Skoda Fabia car at the beginning of the Ronde de Andorra rally near the town of Testico, causing the vehicle to leave the road at high speed and hit the wall of a building.

Kubica was taken to the Hospital Santa Corona di Pietra Ligure, with Italian media sources reporting he suffered multiple injuries to his arm and hand.

Confirming the accident, Lotus Renault said in a statement: "Robert Kubica was airlifted to hospital this morning after suffering an accident at high speed while competing in the Ronde di Andora Rally and is currently undergoing medical checks.

"Lotus Renault GP will issue another statement as soon as more information is known about Robert's condition."

Kubica's co-driver, Jakub Gerber, was unhurt in the incident.

Kubica, who has one grand prix victory to his name and finished eighth in last season's Formula One driver's standings, is no stranger to serious accidents during his motorsport career.

He had to undergo surgery to his left arm after an accident while driving in the Formula Three discipline in 2003 and also suffered a spectacular crash in the 2007 Canadian Grand Prix.

The first race of the 2011 Formula One season takes place in Bahrain on March 13.

Dylan
02-07-2011, 10:06 PM
Lets do this Daytona thing~

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RedNeckRaider -- I get the feeling this is a Nationwide race at Daytona. Check out the car in front of Harvick -- Funny. Drama galore -- Sponsorship from Miccosukee Indian Gaming was terminated in all three of NASCAR's series in Feb 2010. The Indian tribe had been sponsoring Kyle Busch's truck & Cup driver Almirola. Miccosukee also had a contract to sponsor a driver in Nationwide full-time. It was crazy -- Teams were left without a sponsor for Daytona and beyond.

I'm mostly sure owner Jim Finch and Phoenix Racing took the "tribe" to court for breach of contract.

Hopefully, it didn't wind up in tribal court.

Dylan
02-07-2011, 10:08 PM
knock 14 off my name please, his blogs piss me off.

Let's go Kasey!

:D

RedNeckRaider
02-08-2011, 09:32 AM
RedNeckRaider -- I get the feeling this is a Nationwide race at Daytona. Check out the car in front of Harvick -- Funny. Drama galore -- Sponsorship from Miccosukee Indian Gaming was terminated in all three of NASCAR's series in Feb 2010. The Indian tribe had been sponsoring Kyle Busch's truck & Cup driver Almirola. Miccosukee also had a contract to sponsor a driver in Nationwide full-time. It was crazy -- Teams were left without a sponsor for Daytona and beyond.

I'm mostly sure owner Jim Finch and Phoenix Racing took the "tribe" to court for breach of contract.

Hopefully, it didn't wind up in tribal court.
Harvick is in his Sprint cup car~

Old Dog
02-08-2011, 09:39 AM
The #09 Miccosukee was driven by Mike Wallace in the '07 Daytona 500.

Chief Chief
02-08-2011, 09:40 AM
vroom vroom

Dylan
02-08-2011, 11:30 AM
Harvick is in his Sprint cup car~

LMAO how obvious!

kstater
02-11-2011, 11:35 AM
Hell's frozen over. Fuel injectors in 2012

Al Bundy
02-11-2011, 07:53 PM
Speed is airing a reflection on the 10th anniversary of the death of Dale Earnhardt in a one-hour special titled The Day: Remembering Dale Earnhardt Feb. 11 at 6:30.

Thought some #3 fans might be interested

It will run right before the Bud Shootout selection show

I watched that special and it was really good.

Dylan
02-11-2011, 07:55 PM
Thanks, truebigdog

Unfortunately I missed it!!!!



NASCRAP Shootout Practice at Daytona 9pm ET

Logano - Best speed so far 203.087 mph


http://www.nascar.com/races/leaderboard/cup/practice/

Dylan
02-11-2011, 08:08 PM
Daytona International Speedway
Budweiser Shootout
February 12, 2011
Sat 8 p.m. FOX

Sprint Cup Series at Daytona - Practice #2

Pos Car Driver Laps Best Speed Last Speed Avg. Speed Best Time Last Time Avg. Time
1 Joey Logano 23 203.087 197.559 194.759 44.32 45.56 46.21
2 Kyle Busch 32 203.082 181.170 194.039 44.32 49.68 46.38
3 Michael Waltrip 9 202.152 192.633 192.164 44.52 46.72 46.84
4 Bobby Labonte 19 201.839 192.711 193.522 44.59 46.70 46.51
5 Greg Biffle 12 200.951 197.824 195.174 44.79 45.50 46.11
6 Denny Hamlin 30 200.947 179.186 193.977 44.79 50.23 46.40
7 Kevin Harvick 10 200.835 195.682 195.514 44.81 45.99 46.03
8 Jeff Gordon 34 200.835 196.524 194.829 44.81 45.80 46.19
9 Carl Edwards 38 200.209 196.412 195.653 44.95 45.82 46.00
10 Matt Kenseth 34 200.000 196.416 195.746 45.00 45.82 45.98
11 Mark Martin 15 199.641 189.729 193.282 45.08 47.44 46.56
12 Kasey Kahne 24 199.641 191.168 193.889 45.08 47.08 46.42
13 Regan Smith 40 199.159 195.878 193.372 45.19 45.95 46.54
14 Kurt Busch 29 199.155 192.485 193.070 45.19 46.76 46.62
15 Jimmie Johnson 18 195.712 190.408 193.906 45.99 47.27 46.41
16 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 18 195.707 190.074 193.879 45.99 47.35 46.42
17 Kevin Conway 5 193.220 189.565 189.310 46.58 47.48 47.54
18 Derrike Cope 3 180.719 180.187 179.477 49.80 49.95 50.15

Demonpenz
02-11-2011, 08:11 PM
you could see Mark Martin second in that video.

chefsos
02-11-2011, 08:19 PM
I'm liking 203+. :)

But it's pretty hard to judge one lap practice speeds at a plate track, what with the draft and all. That said, if you look down that list a little, you'll find Kenseth with the highest average speed. I think that indicates some strength.

Dylan
02-11-2011, 08:41 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5005/5231134531_9a4c267321.jpg

http://www.finallapradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/107789044_JS_9947_F900187A3E8787B3EFB7EF41C1C3807F.jpg

Michael Waltrip's last race behind the wheel will be in the Bud Shootout and the Daytona 500, the 10th anniversary of his first win there and the death of Dale Earnhardt.

Dylan
02-11-2011, 08:53 PM
I'm liking 203+. :)

But it's pretty hard to judge one lap practice speeds at a plate track, what with the draft and all. That said, if you look down that list a little, you'll find Kenseth with the highest average speed. I think that indicates some strength.

New Paved Track: Bud Shootout promises to deliver

By almost all accounts, this will be one wild show. It's the first time the Sprint Cup drivers will compete on the silky smooth new pavement at Daytona International Speedway under actual race conditions.

Will new mean better? Well, that depends on what you consider better. If it's unpredictable, chaotic and dangerous, then yes, it's better.

"The Shootout is going to be crazy," Jeff Burton said. "It's going to be nuts. It's going to be wide-open every lap, every time."

Tony Stewart on the new surface at Daytona: "You literally could hold a full cup of coffee with the lid off and not spill a drop riding around."

"The track is so smooth and has so much grip that there's no telling what people will try," Carl Edwards said. "I'm not going to say you'll have more wrecks, but the possibility to have more is out there."

Daytona is narrower than Talladega with tighter turns, which means the cars need to handle well to race up front. But handling becomes less of an issue with the smoother surface, enabling the drivers to flat-foot it all the way around the 2.5-mile tri-oval.

"We're not sliding around here now," Kurt Busch said. "It's very controllable. It's very similar to Talladega when that track had its repave. But Daytona is only three lanes of traffic, where Talladega is six lanes of traffic."

The problem is that more grip means drivers will take more chances and try to make Daytona four lanes or five lanes wide at times.

And the smoother surface will lead to tighter packs without much separation, an inherently dangerous situation when cars are inches apart at 200 mph.

"My opinion is it will probably increase the chances of wrecking," said Jamie McMurray, the 2010 Daytona 500 winner. "When you run really close together, it increases that possibility.

"What fans don't see in the plate races is that we [almost] wreck about every lap. Something happens every lap that makes you flinch. It makes you think 'I need to take a breath.'"

Tony Stewart thinks drivers will have fewer of those breathtaking moments because the cars are easier to drive on the new pavement.

"The transitions off of Turns 2 and 4 are a little more abrupt than what we have at Talladega," Stewart said. "But as far as the ride, you literally could hold a full cup of coffee with the lid off and not spill a drop riding around."

Only 24 cars in the race won't show all the things fans will see with 43 cars on the track next weekend in the Daytona 500. But drivers will take more chances and experiment in the Shootout to find out what works and what doesn't on the new pavement.

With a purse of more than $1 million on the line, including more than $200,000 for the winner, it's go time without the normal points consequences that can come from risky moves.

A smoother surface should bring the field together, meaning anyone can win.

"This asphalt is the great equalizer," Kurt Busch said. "That's going to make for a wild start to things."

No one knows for sure what will happen Saturday night. That alone makes it worth watching.

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/columns/story?columnist=blount_terry&id=6112575&campaign=rss&source=RPMHeadlines

I hope they work things out without killing each other. http://vgevo.com/site/images/smilies/shy/forshame.gif

chefsos
02-11-2011, 08:59 PM
Coming to a Cup race near you in 2013? Maybe...

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSF5NUjIaQrTIMG6QbvP3fOSKG1ghkL-bnRihZD7iqVwWBWFT9-jg

Ford asks NASCAR to approve Mustang for 2013

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/racing/wires/02/11/Ford.NASCAR.Mustang.ap/index.html#ixzz1DiJJ7wU6http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/racing/wires/02/11/Ford.NASCAR.Mustang.ap/index.html?eref=sircrc

Dylan
02-11-2011, 09:04 PM
"The push remains, though, for manufacturers to have a race car with a strong resemblance to vehicles sold to consumers. Allison said the response was overwhelming last season when the Mustang ran in four second-tier Nationwide Series events as a precursor to its full-time use in that series this year."

"It certainly exceeded all expectations," Allison said. "We knew Mustang's affinity from fans, but we did not anticipate the fans who don't follow NASCAR getting so excited. There is a whole cottage industry of Mustang enthusiasts, a group that typically does not follow NASCAR. But when the car was introduced in NASCAR, it started garnering attention.



chefsos, the Mustang looks good!

chefsos
02-11-2011, 09:07 PM
"The push remains, though, for manufacturers to have a race car with a strong resemblance to vehicles sold to consumers. Allison said the response was overwhelming last season when the Mustang ran in four second-tier Nationwide Series events as a precursor to its full-time use in that series this year."

"It certainly exceeded all expectations," Allison said. "We knew Mustang's affinity from fans, but we did not anticipate the fans who don't follow NASCAR getting so excited. There is a whole cottage industry of Mustang enthusiasts, a group that typically does not follow NASCAR. But when the car was introduced in NASCAR, it started garnering attention.



chefsos, the Mustang looks good! I think that would be frickin' awesome.

TrebMaxx
02-11-2011, 09:41 PM
Thanks, truebigdog

Unfortunately I missed it!!!!



NASCRAP Shootout Practice at Daytona 9pm ET

Logano - Best speed so far 203.087 mph


http://www.nascar.com/races/leaderboard/cup/practice/

They are airing it again tonight in less than an hour. 11:30 CSt.

Fruit Ninja
02-11-2011, 11:00 PM
How the fuck did Bobby Labonte have the 4th fastest lap? He's my boy has been for over 10 years, but he's just been a shell of his former self the last handful of years.

Hopefully his new team has the equipment to be competitive.

chefsos
02-12-2011, 12:35 AM
How the fuck did Bobby Labonte have the 4th fastest lap? He's my boy has been for over 10 years, but he's just been a shell of his former self the last handful of years.

Hopefully his new team has the equipment to be competitive.In the draft, all things are possible.

Dylan
02-12-2011, 12:50 AM
They are airing it again tonight in less than an hour. 11:30 CSt.

Thanks!!



In other news: Nine cars topped 200 mph, with Joey Logano and Joe Gibbs Racing teammate Kyle Busch topping the charts in a two-car breakaway with speeds of 203.087 mph and 203.082 mph.

The speeds had some drivers wondering whether NASCAR would shrink the size of the restrictor plate hole to slow cars as it did after speeds approached 200 mph in the December tire test.

NASCAR officials said they would continue to monitor speeds during Saturday's practice that will include all 49 cars entered in the Feb. 20 Daytona 500.

"I don't know what NASCAR is going to do," said Dale Earnhardt Jr., who led the first practice with a speed of 199.862 mph. "I bet if they put a smaller plate on it we'd still be able to do it with the two-car lockup. The plates, when you're talking about 64ths and 32nds [of an inch], I don't know if the plate can get us out of those speeds with a two-car lockup.

Talladega since it was repaved a few years ago has never been a factor at Daytona. But with the new surface most drivers expect it to be a major factor in the Shootout and 500.

For years, the question has been about whether racing is safe at Daytona and Talladega. No one enjoys watching the car go airborne. Honestly, I don't know how Brian France the drunk, could live with himself if the car ends up in the grandstands and kills 20 people.

We have had wrecks like this ever since the plate -- Drivers run so close together that one mistake can cause a chain reaction and take out half the field. We're lucky to be able to see drivers and cars crossing the finish line intact.


It's a blast to watch. ... #Brian France, the drunk

Dylan
02-12-2011, 12:57 AM
How the **** did Bobby Labonte have the 4th fastest lap? He's my boy has been for over 10 years, but he's just been a shell of his former self the last handful of years.

Hopefully his new team has the equipment to be competitive.

It's one thing to practice laps -- and it's another thing to actually move the car in a real race. :D

Bugeater
02-12-2011, 05:09 AM
Sooo...anyone have any idea what time the race really starts tonight?

Dylan
02-12-2011, 10:16 AM
Practice in on!! #5's up!



http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/assets/110212044946-martin-p1-homepage-t1.jpg

Dylan
02-12-2011, 10:23 AM
RACE LINEUP
Shootout | Daytona International Speedway
Saturday | February 12, 2011 | Exhibition
FOX 8 p.m.

1 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet National Guard / Amp Energy
2 14 Tony Stewart Chevrolet Mobil 1 / Office Depot
3 99 Carl Edwards Ford Scotts EZ Seed
4 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Express
5 4 Kasey Kahne Toyota Red Bull
6 47 Bobby Labonte Toyota Reese Towpower / Highland
7 33 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet Cheerios / Hamburger Helper
8 39 Ryan Newman Chevrolet Wix Filters
9 64 Derrike Cope Toyota Sta-Bil
10 115 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA Auto Parts
11 16 Greg Biffle Ford 3M
12 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet Drive to End Hunger
13 42 Juan Montoya Chevrolet Target
14 1 Jamie McMurray Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / Tracker
15 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet Caterpillar
16 97 Kevin Conway Toyota Extenze
17 22 Kurt Busch Dodge Shell / Pennzoil
18 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Budweiser
19 17 Matt Kenseth Ford Crown Royal Black
20 5 Mark Martin Chevrolet GoDaddy.com
21 18 Kyle Busch Toyota M&M's
22 20 Joey Logano Toyota The Home Depot
23 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's / Kobalt Tools
24 78 Regan Smith Chevrolet Furniture Row Companies

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 10:55 AM
One of the motors on a "jet dryer truck" blew. Hadn't seen that before.
Jamie Mac hit the wall after cutting down a tire. Not a good thing for your primary car. It just scuffed the right side, but they are going to have to go to a backup car.

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 02:37 PM
Odds to win 2011 Sprint Cup Championship
Jimmie Johnson 5/2
Denny Hamlin 6/1
Carl Edwards 6/1
Kevin Harvick 8/1
Kyle Busch 8/1
Jeff Gordon 10/1
Greg Biffle 10/1
Tony Stewart 12/1
Matt Kenseth 12/1
Clint Bowyer 18/1
Kurt Busch 18/1
Mark Martin 20/1
Joey Logano 30/1
Jeff Burton 30/1
Juan Pablo Montoya 30/1
Kasey Kahne 40/1
Jamie McMurray 40/1
Ryan Newman 50/1
Brian Vickers 50/1
David Reutimann 50/1
Dale Earnhardt Jr. 50/1
A.J. Allmendinger 100/1
Martin Truex Jr. 100/1
Paul Menard 100/1
David Ragan 100/1
Brad Keselowski 300/1
Marcos Ambrose 500/1
Field (All Others) 100/1

Sfeihc
02-12-2011, 03:15 PM
The #09 Miccosukee was driven by Mike Wallace in the '07 Daytona 500.

Awesome Bill was 12th in practice today in the #09. If he can't be in the #9 then #09 is the next best thing. First time in his career Elliott starts the season in a Chevy.

Fruit Ninja
02-12-2011, 03:52 PM
It's one thing to practice laps -- and it's another thing to actually move the car in a real race. :D

Didnt matter before, if he was in a race, draft, practice, qualifying his ass was never up in the front. NEVER.

Dylan
02-12-2011, 05:39 PM
Who is going to win the Shootout?

My picks:
Jr
Kyle


Danny Hamlin maybe /nascrap fan LMAO

Bugeater
02-12-2011, 05:47 PM
Who is going to win the Shootout?

My picks:
Jr
Kyle


Danny Hamlin maybe /nascrap fan LMAO
TONY MOTHERFUCKING STEWART!!!!




(since he usually wins the races at Daytona that don't matter)

kstater
02-12-2011, 05:54 PM
I wouldn't pick a Toyota. Getting hot sooner than others when 2 cars get lined up.

GoHuge
02-12-2011, 05:56 PM
I think the championship will obviously be between the 48, 29, 11, 99 but I think (as much as it pains me to say) the 24 team will be back as a serious contender. Obviously the entire field is much more competitive than it was when Petty, Earnhardt, Yarborough, Pearson, DW, and Jeff Gordon were racking up wins. Back then 8-10 drivers could realistically win every weekend. Now it's at least 18-22. The only guy that continues to win at the historic pace as the previous HOF (or will be) drivers is Jimmie Johnson. JFC 5 championships and in that span I think he has won a minimum of 6 races each year......just ridiculous. The best Gordon has done in his career was when he had Ray Evernham. Who do people most compare Evernham to? Alan Gustafson. I don't think anyone disputes that Chad Knaus is the best crew chief in the garage. Just saying the way they think and run a team people say they are almost clones. That 5/25/88 shop has always seemed like the step child at Hendrick, but Gutafson has won with every driver he's crew chiefed for. Kyle Busch, Mark Martin, and even Casey Mears. Gordon is in very good hands.

I think Junior finally gets his shit together as well. Don't think he'll be a championship contender, but think he'll win a race or two and make The Chase. Being in the 48 shop sure as hell won't hurt. Actually I think he or Harvick will win tonight or one of it not both the duels.

Sfeihc
02-12-2011, 05:57 PM
Kenseth

Dylan
02-12-2011, 05:57 PM
Hey, bugeater!!!! :D

Hey guys!!!

Check out all the new paint schemes for the Bud Shootout

http://jayski.com/schemes/2011budshootout.htm

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 05:59 PM
I'm taking the #33 of course, but the #88 wouldn't be a bad guess either. The Hendrick cars have been really strong so far.

Dylan
02-12-2011, 06:01 PM
I'm taking the #33 of course, but the #88 wouldn't be a bad guess either. The Hendrick cars have been really strong so far.


http://www.underlinfamily.com/guestbook/smileys/happy.gif

hey truebigdog!!!!


Turn on FOX!!! Woo Hoo!

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 06:03 PM
My F'in Fox station just went blank on both HD and Standard....grrrrrrrr

kstater
02-12-2011, 06:05 PM
She needs less clothes to be entertaining enough to watch.

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 06:15 PM
found a link to watch it via stream but THIS SUCKS

RedNeckRaider
02-12-2011, 06:19 PM
I am going with the guy driving the bow tie chevy with the bow tie beer logo~

Dylan
02-12-2011, 06:26 PM
My F'in Fox station just went blank on both HD and Standard....grrrrrrrr

we lost sports live streaming!

Bugeater
02-12-2011, 06:26 PM
ONE TO GO!!!!!

kstater
02-12-2011, 06:29 PM
Only have to hear that shit 12 more times this year.

Dylan
02-12-2011, 06:31 PM
RedNeckRaider: Yesterday when Jeff G was drafting with Harvick, the 29 said, he had to run 1/2 throttle instead of wide open or he would leave Jeff in the dust.

Bugeater
02-12-2011, 06:32 PM
Montoya already trying to wreck people...

RedNeckRaider
02-12-2011, 06:32 PM
She needs less clothes to be entertaining enough to watch.

If you are talking about Dancia, she has shown she is a soulless whore and cannot go back to that over sized gocart shit she came from. The only talent she has show is she is willing to sell skin and has the ability to take top five cars several laps down~

Dylan
02-12-2011, 06:33 PM
Junebug!!

Bugeater
02-12-2011, 06:35 PM
These two car breakaways are kinda freaking me out.

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 06:41 PM
we lost sports live streaming!

no we didn't....I'm watching a stream now

quality isn't great, but it's better than a black ******* screen with "Sorry for the interuption of service. We are aware that this station is unavailable and we will have this channel back as quickly as possible"

grrrrrrr

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 06:41 PM
These two car breakaways are kinda freaking me out.

no doubt. The speeds are insane

Dylan
02-12-2011, 06:43 PM
Maryeve Default made her ARCA debut today at Daytona -- I think she finished 28th.

http://pressdog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c53c653ef0147e0c23e53970b-200wi


Milko Dano passed a bunch of cars before being wrecked.

:shake:

Dylan
02-12-2011, 06:45 PM
no we didn't....I'm watching a stream now

quality isn't great, but it's better than a black ******* screen with "Sorry for the interuption of service. We are aware that this station is unavailable and we will have this channel back as quickly as possible"

grrrrrrr

great -- link?

Bugeater
02-12-2011, 06:46 PM
What the fuck is Derrike Cope doing out there?

kstater
02-12-2011, 06:49 PM
What the fuck is Derrike Cope doing out there?

Cashing a check. There's 6 others that qualified that for some reason didn't run. Surprised some of the smaller teams didn't get them to do it.

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 06:49 PM
great -- link?

http://www.soccertvlive.net/watch/50099/1/watch-nascar:-daytona-speedway.html

Spott
02-12-2011, 06:50 PM
Gonna take a little bit to get used to all the new paint schemes. I like that #29 Budweiser car.

Dylan
02-12-2011, 06:51 PM
What the **** is Derrike Cope doing out there?

I don't know -- but this is not racing -- it's horrible -- it's the two by two train

get ready for Stevie Wallace in Cup next week -- Lord have mercy

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 06:52 PM
I'm wondering how well these speeds are going to work with some of the inexperienced folks and/or when they start to get impatient.

kstater
02-12-2011, 06:52 PM
I'm wondering how well these speeds are going to work with some of the inexperienced folks and/or when they start to get impatient.

I suspect we'll see a smaller plate come Thursday.

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 06:56 PM
I suspect we'll see a smaller plate come Thursday.

I'll be really shocked if they get through the rest of tonight without a hell of a wreck

kstater
02-12-2011, 06:59 PM
Did I hear Meyers right?

"Our Dickhead err Dick Bergren."

Spott
02-12-2011, 07:00 PM
I don't know -- but this is not racing -- it's horrible -- it's the two by two train

get ready for Stevie Wallace in Cup next week -- Lord have mercy

I hope it's not like this next weekend when I'm down there. All those cars running in pairs like makes it look like there's half as many cars out there.

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:01 PM
i think Kyle is doing really good moving up from the back to 8th

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 07:05 PM
Woohoo....they got the channel fixed :)

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:05 PM
I hope it's not like this next weekend when I'm down there. All those cars running in pairs like makes it look like there's half as many cars out there.

I'm not sure what they can do on new pavement -- it's takes up to five years for a track to get really good after repaving it -- so they say.

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:09 PM
i got a feeling Childress cars are going to be the cars to beat



the drivers will get racy

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:12 PM
Gawd damnit!!!

MaFa MaFa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

freakin' Gymnist takes out my Junior!! Ma Fa!!

there goes Juan Pablo Escabar! son of a B

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:15 PM
This is what happens when Cousin Carl tries to mix it up with the real racers.



let the beatings begin..... LMAO

RedNeckRaider
02-12-2011, 07:20 PM
Gonna take a little bit to get used to all the new paint schemes. I like that #29 Budweiser car.

Yeah it is cocky looking. I like it much better the the red version~

Al Bundy
02-12-2011, 07:21 PM
Damn Regan Smith caused that one big time.

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:22 PM
OH! it was no talent wheelholder Regan Smith that caused the carnage and took out two of my drivers http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/images/smilies/crazy.gif

now my Jr is standing around in familiar territory... the damn garage!

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:24 PM
i hope everybody crashes, now

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:26 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Mark Martin takes out Kyle!


Jesus K. You would think Martin could draft by now -- he's been racing almost a 100 years Ma Fa!



where'd ya'll go? lol

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 07:26 PM
Your 18 did........sorry

Al Bundy
02-12-2011, 07:28 PM
Martin gone.

Spott
02-12-2011, 07:31 PM
Yeah it is cocky looking. I like it much better the the red version~

I like the red version better too, but that black paint scheme on Harvick's car is much better than that ugly Shell car he's had the past few years.

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:33 PM
wow... look at kyle go

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:34 PM
Your 18 did........sorry

Kidding aside: I think Kyle went too high and Mark did his best to follow him

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:37 PM
Sheesh, I hope JimiJo is not going to win this!

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:39 PM
Toni tries to kill Mikey LMAO

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 07:41 PM
Kidding aside: I think Kyle went too high and Mark did his best to follow him

That's what I thought as well

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 07:43 PM
Cope could end up with a top 10 by doing nothing but riding around

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:43 PM
Ha, Ha! we called it -- DW said, Kyle went too high and Martin clipped him!

Where's my star? http://www.underlinfamily.com/guestbook/smileys/happy.gif

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/assets/110213022821-kybusch-crash-homepage-t1.jpg

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:46 PM
newman can mess up

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:52 PM
denny is a damn good racer...

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 07:52 PM
For any of you that might have missed it, I also set up a fantasy league on ESPN. The info is in the OP

RedNeckRaider
02-12-2011, 07:54 PM
The 31 said he wanted the 33 but I think the 29 would have kept him in front. Gordon does not have the car to win...a waste of a rocket 29 car~

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:57 PM
I like Harvick & Gordon's paint scheme -- the cars look great!

Dylan
02-12-2011, 07:59 PM
For any of you that might have missed it, I also set up a fantasy league on ESPN. The info is in the OP

i have to check it out -- thanks for the reminder

Dylan
02-12-2011, 08:00 PM
lol... denny is blocking like crazy (the #29)

kstater
02-12-2011, 08:03 PM
You gotta DQ Hamlin there. It's clear as day below the line.

Dylan
02-12-2011, 08:06 PM
Wow... Kurt won!

Busch boys can race!

Denny should know better -- but he had no choice unfor. to go down to avoid a wreck

RedNeckRaider
02-12-2011, 08:09 PM
It is clear the 31 and 29 cars had something special tonight but the riff between the two cost both a chance at a win. Burton needs to lose the ego :rolleyes:

Dylan
02-12-2011, 08:10 PM
Good think Kurt didn't follow his brother -- He would have followed him right into the garage

Dylan
02-12-2011, 08:11 PM
i like denny... always have... until he had a riff with jr.

1 1/2 years ago, denny would have put kurt into the wall for the win.

Gracie Dean
02-12-2011, 08:12 PM
24 is my favorite driver but I hope this year someone besides Jimmy wins the title

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 08:12 PM
I think I'm gonna take Thursday afternoon off to watch the Duels.

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 08:13 PM
24 is my favorite driver

listed in the OP

Old Dog
02-12-2011, 08:15 PM
Off to turn my attentions to the Cats....nigth all. Looking forward to the rest of speedweek and hoping the #33 can claim a spot in the front row tomorrow.

Dylan
02-12-2011, 08:17 PM
Sunday 2/13

1:00p FOX Cup Qualifying

Dylan
02-12-2011, 08:18 PM
I think I'm gonna take Thursday afternoon off to watch the Duels.

2 PM EST why?

Dylan
02-12-2011, 08:22 PM
24 is my favorite driver but I hope this year someone besides Jimmy wins the title

Chad Knaus is so good. Knaus mentor, Ray Evernham will consult with Hendrick on performance parts.

The best two cheaters ever! :D

Dylan
02-12-2011, 08:28 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/assets/110213030611-buschwins-homepage-t1.jpg

Kurt Busch wins Bud Shootout at Daytona

Old Dog
02-13-2011, 08:02 AM
2 PM EST why?

I find them the most entertaining races of the week more often than not.

RedNeckRaider
02-13-2011, 08:10 AM
truebigdog has proven he should have always been running this thread along with his trusty sidekick Dylan. I have given both pos rep here before...I am now tempted to give them both neg rep for not stepping up sooner ;)

Bugeater
02-13-2011, 08:12 AM
truebigdog has proven he should have always been running this thread along with his trusty sidekick Dylan. I have given both pos rep here before...I am now tempted to give them both neg rep for not stepping up sooner ;)
Are you declaring rep war? Because if you are, I am totally in on that.

RedNeckRaider
02-13-2011, 08:13 AM
Are you declaring rep war? Because if you are, I am totally in on that.

LMAO the only way I can compete in a rep war is when deface resets it~

Old Dog
02-13-2011, 08:30 AM
I'm not understanding the qualifying order. they say it's supposed to be set on the speeds of the final practice from slowest to fastest (with the top 35 first and then "go or go homers") but according to nascar.com this is the qualifying order and that certainly doesn't fit the above as Martin was fastest in each practice. Anyway, here's the order per nascar.com:


ORDER CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR
1 2 Brad Keselowski Dodge Miller Lite
2 47 Bobby Labonte Toyota Kroger / USO
3 18 Kyle Busch Toyota M&M's
4 17 Matt Kenseth Ford Crown Royal Black
5 33 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet Cheerios / Hamburger Helper
6 5 Mark Martin Chevrolet GoDaddy.com
7 14 Tony Stewart Chevrolet Office Depot / Mobil 1
8 39 Ryan Newman Chevrolet U.S. Army
9 77 Steve Wallace Toyota 5-Hour Energy
10 4 Kasey Kahne Toyota Red Bull
11 71 Andy Lally Chevrolet Adobe Road Winery
12 83 Brian Vickers Toyota Red Bull
13 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Budweiser
14 1 Jamie McMurray Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / Tracker
15 20 Joey Logano Toyota The Home Depot
16 34 David Gilliland Ford Taco Bell
17 27 Paul Menard Chevrolet Peak / Menards
18 42 Juan Montoya Chevrolet Target
19 37 Robert Richardson Jr. Ford North Texas Pipe
20 78 Regan Smith Chevrolet Furniture Row Companies
21 16 Greg Biffle Ford 3M
22 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet Drive to End Hunger
23 9 Marcos Ambrose Toyota Stanley
24 43 A.J. Allmendinger Ford Best Buy
25 6 David Ragan Ford UPS
26 21 Trevor Bayne Ford Motorcraft / Quick Lane Tire & Auto Center
27 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Amp Energy / National Guard
28 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet Caterpillar
29 00 David Reutimann Toyota Aaron's Dream Machine
30 99 Carl Edwards Ford Aflac
31 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's / Kobalt Tools
32 22 Kurt Busch Dodge Shell / Pennzoil
33 7 Robby Gordon Dodge Speed Energy
34 56 Martin Truex Jr. Toyota NAPA Auto Parts
35 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Express
36 157 Norm Benning Chevrolet Norm Benning Racing
37 36 Dave Blaney Chevrolet Tommy Baldwin Racing
38 46 J.J. Yeley Chevrolet Red Line Oil
39 115 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA Auto Parts
40 13 Casey Mears Toyota GEICO
41 87 Joe Nemechek Toyota AM FM Energy
42 09 Bill Elliott Chevrolet Phoenix Construction
43 60 Todd Bodine Toyota Tire Kingdom / Valvoline
44 38 Travis Kvapil Ford Long John Silver's
45 64 Derrike Cope Toyota Sta-Bil
46 66 Michael McDowell Toyota HP Racing LLC
47 97 Kevin Conway Toyota Extenze
48 32 Terry Labonte Ford U.S. Chrome
49 192 Brian Keselowski Dodge K-Automotive Motorsports

kstater
02-13-2011, 09:10 AM
They're not doing the practice speed thing until Phoenix.

Old Dog
02-13-2011, 09:54 AM
Ahhhh, hadn't heard that....Thank You

Old Dog
02-13-2011, 10:13 AM
It's fairly safe to guess that the front row should be occupied by either Hendrick or RCR drivers.
Martin, Gordon, Johnson, Earnhardt, Burton, Bowyer,and Menard were the drivers in the top 10 in both practice sessions.
I'm thinking Martin and Bowyer since they will be the first of that bunch out (6th and 5th respectively) and maybe the track will be a touch cooler.

TrebMaxx
02-13-2011, 11:07 AM
Qualifying has started.

kstater
02-13-2011, 12:13 PM
Gordon will probably at worst be on the front row. Realistically only Burton, JJ, and Junior have a shot at him.

kstater
02-13-2011, 12:31 PM
Awfully tough lap to beat from Junior.

RedNeckRaider
02-13-2011, 12:38 PM
Qualifying matters very little at Daytona but it is still cool to watch~

kstater
02-13-2011, 12:45 PM
JJ is probably the last one with a chance at the pole.

Old Dog
02-13-2011, 12:46 PM
Qualifying matters very little at Daytona but it is still cool to watch~

True for the most part, but I would prefer to see "my driver" start in the front of the duel field rather than the back.

Old Dog
02-13-2011, 12:47 PM
JJ is probably the last one with a chance at the pole.

Looks like Earnhardt/Gordon front row.

Jerm
02-13-2011, 12:47 PM
Got a really good feeling about Junior next week if he can avoid the big one.

He's been on point all week.

kstater
02-13-2011, 12:48 PM
Got the pole by 4 feet.

Old Dog
02-13-2011, 12:55 PM
Got a really good feeling about Junior next week if he can avoid the big one.

He's been on point all week.

I don't think you can tell a whole lot about anything that has happened as yet other than the Chevys in general and Hendrick and RCR cars in particular have more horsepower when running by themselves.

Jerm
02-13-2011, 12:58 PM
I don't think you can tell a whole lot about anything that has happened as yet other than the Chevys in general and Hendrick and RCR cars in particular have more horsepower when running by themselves.

I see what you're saying but he was consistently one of the fastest cars in practice and had a good run going last night until the wreck.

I'll be shocked if the winner next week isn't from HMS or RCR.

RedNeckRaider
02-13-2011, 01:01 PM
True for the most part, but I would prefer to see "my driver" start in the front of the duel field rather than the back.

Yeah but the reality is if a driver has the ponies and starts 25th he has just as good of chance as the pole sitter in the 500~

Old Dog
02-13-2011, 01:14 PM
I agree completely when it comes to next Sunday. All I'm saying is in the duels, you don't want your guy in the back with those that have to race their way in where he's more likely to get caught up in a wreck.
As it sits right now, Clint should start right behind the 88 in the first Duel. The two of them may be able to check out if it stays that way.......and it may also just be the case that I tend to overthink dumb shit that doesn't matter.

kstater
02-13-2011, 01:54 PM
Jr. officially on the pole.

Old Dog
02-13-2011, 01:57 PM
Jr. officially on the pole.

Yeah and he's going to start on the inside of the front row too....oh, wait a minute that's what you meant

Bugeater
02-13-2011, 01:59 PM
Yeah and he's going to start on the inside of the front row too....oh, wait a minute that's what you meant
Yeah, he said Jr, not Jeff Gordon.

RedNeckRaider
02-13-2011, 04:30 PM
I agree completely when it comes to next Sunday. All I'm saying is in the duels, you don't want your guy in the back with those that have to race their way in where he's more likely to get caught up in a wreck.
As it sits right now, Clint should start right behind the 88 in the first Duel. The two of them may be able to check out if it stays that way.......and it may also just be the case that I tend to overthink dumb shit that doesn't matter.

LMAO if given the choice it is always best to be out front. That way you dont get caught up in someone elses fuck up~

Dylan
02-13-2011, 06:58 PM
truebigdog has proven he should have always been running this thread along with his trusty sidekick Dylan. I have given both pos rep here before...I am now tempted to give them both neg rep for not stepping up sooner ;)


Hey! I've lost my rep power ever since one of the mods went on a rep rampage... LMAO

wait a minute, i now have 6 green squares -- lol

Dylan
02-13-2011, 07:11 PM
I don't know -- but this is not racing -- it's horrible -- it's the two by two train

NASCAR orders changes, tries to dodge draft trouble

By Jim Utter - jutter@charlotteobserver.com
Sunday, Feb. 13, 2011

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. - NASCAR wasted little time in making changes to limit the two-car drafts that dominated much of Saturday night's Budweiser Shootout.

Sprint Cup Series crews were issued technical bulletins Sunday afternoon outlining changes. New dimensions for the openings of Cup cars' grilles were specified and the addition of a pressure-relief valve required for the cooling systems.

Both are intended to limit the amount of time cars could hook up and run bumper-to-bumper before engine temperatures get dangerously high.

There could be additional changes before Thursday's pair of qualifying races or Sunday's Daytona 500, NASCAR officials said.

Officials said they would continue to monitor speeds, which some drivers pushed to 206 mph in Saturday night's event.


Read more: http://www.thatsracin.com/2011/02/13/55927/nascar-orders-changes-tries-to.html#ixzz1DtZ8u2fU

Dylan
02-13-2011, 07:25 PM
Gatorade Duel 150 on SPEED Race 1 Starting Lineup
88 27 39 5 14 22 42 9 29 48 09 43 87 17 36 78 4 47 83 97 34 66 46 and 71

Gatorade Duel 150 on SPEED Race 2 Starting Lineup
24 21 33 31 16 6 99 38 00 2 15 1 18 56 20 60 13 77 7 32 37 11 64 and 92



As for Jeff Gordon's concern about who was running 9500 rpms. FOX had graphics last night with several NASCAR drivers over 9000 rpms

chefsos
02-16-2011, 07:45 PM
Gatorade Duel 150 on SPEED Race 1 Starting Lineup
27 39 5 14 22 42 9 29 48 09 43 87 17 36 78 4 47 83 97 34 66 46 71 and...88
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2011/02/ipt/1297892238.jpg?x=310&y=190&xc=1&yc=1&wc=310&hc=190&q=100&sig=5yLyG4QEaqLUattCp4VCdA--

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. – Dale Earnhardt Jr. will not start first in the Daytona 500.

Eighteen minutes into the first practice for Thursday’s Gatorade Duels, Earnhardt got tapped from behind by Martin Truex Jr., sending him into the wall, destroying the No. 88 Chevrolet. With steam shooting from under his hood and his rear bumper dragging on the ground, Earnhardt wheeled his car to the garage where his crew was already unloading his backup car.

Earnhardt, who won the pole on Sunday, will now start at the rear of the field in both the Gatorade Duel and Sunday’s Daytona 500.

“We were coming around [Turns] 3 and 4 and some guys on the inside moved up toward the top lane and me and Jimmie [Johnson] checked up cause we didn’t know if they were coming into our lane and we got run over from behind,” explained Earnhardt. “Same old stuff that always happens here.”

Johnson was unscathed. Truex will also go to a backup car.

When asked what his emotions are after knowing he’ll have to start at the rear of the field, Earnhardt responded, “Get the next [car] ready.”

Rain delayed practice for several hours. When it finally got started, it was the first time on the track for a number of drivers, including Robby Gordon, Michael Waltrip and David Gilliland. Those three were locked in a three-car train, with Gordon leading the way. As they entered Turn 4, Gordon veered up the track and directly in the way of Johnson and Earnhardt, who were traveling some 20 mph faster.

Pinched against the wall with nowhere to go, Johnson had to check up, sparking a pile up behind him.

“It’s a new game,” Johnson said of Daytona, where the two-car draft has emerged as the fastest way to get around the track. “A spotter’s job is far more important and covers a lot more areas than it ever has. Spotting the front, spotting behind, letting you know when a two-car pack is coming.

“I think it was an innocent thing, but you can’t start on the bottom of the race track and then find your way all the way to the top in the corner,” he continued. “That was so avoidable. That didn’t need to happen.”

Said Earnhardt: “We’re all kind of getting the hang of it, but the guys that aren’t … need to be aware that those guys [in a two-car pack] are going to come flying up on them faster than they think. And you’ve just got to keep that in mind and hold your line.”

Earnhardt will roll off pit road first in Sunday’s Daytona 500, but will peal off and make his way to the rear of the field before the drop of the green flag. When he does, the winner of the first Gatorade Duel (or the second-place finisher if Junior wins) will slide into his spot.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AsvwZAmdK4sgtcm8ijiTVT3ov7YF?slug=jh-juniorwreck021611

Dylan
02-17-2011, 10:59 AM
UNREAL!!!!

MA FA!

SOMMA B!

freakin' no talent Truex, Jr!

hope truex gets caught in the BIG BIG one on sunday, that'll leave a mark! coming around the corner like a bat out of hell! Sheesh!

Dylan
02-17-2011, 11:29 AM
Starting at 2 p.m. ET Thursday, SPEED will televise the Gatorade Duel qualifying races from Daytona International Speedway.

What to watch for in Daytona Duels
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla.

What can you expect to see when the green flag drops for both of the 150-mile events?

1. What’s at stake?

When you combine the top 35 owner points rule with the unique qualifying system for the Daytona 500, it means 39 spots are already locked for the running of Sunday’s Great American Race (coverage begins at noon ET on FOX). The four remaining spots will be decided today in the Duels, with the top two non-top 35 points guys racing their way into the field via each race. The drivers battling for the two open spots in Duel 1 are Bill Elliott, Joe Nemechek, Dave Blaney, Kevin Conway, Michael McDowell and J.J. Yeley. In Duel No. 2, Travis Kvapil, Terry Labonte, Michael Waltrip, Todd Bodine, Casey Mears, Derrike Cope and Brian Keselowski will be fighting for the final two transfer spots.

Here’s where it gets a bit tricky, so stay with me. Bill Elliott, Joe Nemechek, Travis Kvapil and Terry Labonte are actually amongst the 39 already locked into the race because of their qualifying speeds or the fact that they can use the past champions provisional (Labonte). However, if any of them “race” their way into the 500, they allow the next fastest drivers from qualifying not already locked into the race to earn a spot (in order of speeds: Waltrip, Blaney, Bodine and Conway). So for example, if Elliott is the first “Go or go homer” in the first Duel race, Waltrip earns a spot in the 500 field regardless of how he performs.

There’s lots of different ways drivers can make the field -- but the surefire way to know they made it is to go all out and race their way in on Thursday.

There will be plenty of jubilation and heartbreak by the end of today’s races.

2. What’s at stake (Pt. 2)

These Duels aren’t just about locking drivers into the race, they are about setting the starting lineup for the Daytona 500 -- and perhaps more important, helping to establish the pit-selection process, which will be the key to victory according to several people in the Sprint Cup garage.

Here’s how this works. For all intents and purposes, the finishing order in the first Duel sets the odd starting positions behind polesitter Dale Earnhardt Jr. (who will drop to the rear of the field after a crash during practice Wednesday forced him to a back-up car). The finishing order in the second Duel will set the even positions behind outside polesitter Jeff Gordon. Once the lineup is set, pit stalls will be selected by teams based on their starting position -- so Junior’s team will get to pick whatever stall they want (presumably the first one at the end of pit road, which is considered the “prime” stall). Gordon’s team will pick second, followed by the winners of Duel race 1, Duel race 2, and so on.

With the elimination of the seventh man on pit stops, along with a new fueling system in place for 2011, pit stops will be absolutely crucial on Sunday. Getting a good pit-stall position could prove to be vital as teams look to gain milliseconds on the competition.

3. Expect the unexpected

In case you missed it, Wednesday was a wild day at Daytona. Polesitter Dale Earnhardt Jr. got into an accident, five-time defending champion Jimmie Johnson had to have an engine change, etc. What kind of calamity will we see when 24 racers strap in and battle for position in each Duel? If the previous six days of Speedweeks is anything to go by, expect the unexpected.

4. Time to go to school

Since teams got down to Daytona last week, NASCAR has made several changes to slow the cars down -- including on the grille opening, the pressure relief valve, and the restrictor plate on the cars. Thursday will be the first time drivers truly get to feel what all the changes create out on the track in race conditions.

5. Down to the wire

If Saturday night’s Budweiser Shootout was any indication -- and plenty of drivers believe it is -- you won’t want to miss the drop of the checkered flag because the finish for each Duel race could get wild. With the two-car tandems in full effect, it’s anybody’s race when it comes down to the end. Will the leader coming out of Turn 4 stay up front? Will drivers wreck each other for the win?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/what-to-watch-for-in-daytona-duels-021711

Old Dog
02-17-2011, 01:42 PM
Results of the first duel:

1) #22-Busch, starts 3rd, moves up to the Daytona 500 pole
2) #78-Smith
3) #29-Harvick
4) #17-Kenseth
5) #4-Kahne
6) #42-Montoya
7) #43-Allmendinger
8) #5-Martin
9) #27-Menard
10) #39-Newman
11) #48-Johnson
12) #14-Stewart
13) #88-Earnhardt Jr. will still start at the rear Daytona 500
14) #83-Vickers
15) #09-Elliott, RACED IN
16) #47-Labonte
17) #46-Yeley, RACED IN
18) #97-Conway, DNQ
19) #87-Nemechek, SPD
20) #36-Blaney, MYB
21) #9-Ambrose
22) #71-Lally, -1
23) #66-McDowell, DNQ
24) #34-Gilliland, 40 laps

RACED IN = made race via transfer spot (2)
DNQ = did not qualify, will miss race
SPD = makes race on speed
MYB = can still make race on speed depending on Duel 2 results

Old Dog
02-17-2011, 01:44 PM
Gatorade Duel 1: #22-Kurt Busch won the Gatorade Duel 1 qualifying race for the Daytona 500 at Daytona International Speedway, his 2nd win at Daytona after winning the Budweiser Shootout. #78-Smith fininished 2nd. With #09-Elliott making the race via one of the two transfer spots, #15-Waltrip is guaranteed to make the Daytona 500 no matter where he finishes in the 2nd Duel as he had the 4th fastest speed in qualifying. If either #38-Kvapil or #15-Waltrip race into the race via the transfer spot, #36-Blaney could make the race by speed



this post and the one above copied and pasted from jayski

Old Dog
02-17-2011, 03:12 PM
and Burton in the #31 wins the second duel by .005 over Clint in the #33.....hell of a finish

Old Dog
02-17-2011, 03:15 PM
it looks like the #24 might have picked up a bit of damage in that last lap wreck as well. I wonder if it will be enough to make them bring out a backup car

Old Dog
02-17-2011, 03:39 PM
Duel #2 results:
1) #31-Burton
2) #33-Bowyer
3) #15-Waltrip, RACED IN
4) #18-Busch
5) #92-Keselowski, RACED IN
6) #1-McMurray
7) #2-Keselowski
8) #11-Hamlin
9) #56-Truex Jr.
10) #99-Edwards
11) #00-Reutimann
12) #24-Gordon
13) #38-Kvapil, SPD
14) #64-Cope, DNQ
15) #16-Biffle
16) #37-Richardson Jr.
17) #7-Gordon
18) #32-TLabonte. Past Champ prov
19) #21-Bayne
20) #6-Ragan
21) #60-Bodine, accident, DNQ
22) #77-Wallace, accident
23) #20-Logano, accident
24) #13-Mears, 3 laps, engine DNQ
RACED IN = made race via transfer spot (2)
DNQ = did not qualify, will miss race
SPD = makes race on speed

Gatorade Duel 2: #31-Jeff Burton won the Gatorade Duel 2 qualifying race for the Daytona 500 at Daytona International Speedway. #33-Bowyer finished 2nd. Upset of the races would be #92-Keselowski teaming with his brother #2-Brad and finishing 5th, qualifying for his first ever Daytona 500. #15-Waltrip finished 3rd and raced in. Three drivers made the field by their qualifying speed: #38-Kvapil, #87-Nemechek and #36-Blaney. Missing the Daytona 500 are #13-Mears, #60-Bodine, #64-Cope, #66-McDowell and #97-Conway.

Dylan
02-17-2011, 04:08 PM
wow... kurt is two for two at daletona --

why couldn't jr have one of those cheatin' engines in his car? huh? LMAO

Dylan
02-17-2011, 04:11 PM
There were two cautions in the race.

The first began on Lap 2 after Tony Stewart turned his Stewart Haas Racing teammate Ryan Newman while the two were racing in a two-car tandem. Newman spun but didn't hit anything.

paging toni stewart. dr. black says, "bring your piss cup to the red trailer - pronto!"

chefsos
02-17-2011, 04:13 PM
I think that it's fucking awesome that Brad Keselowski pushed his brother right into the Daytona 500.

Dylan
02-17-2011, 04:14 PM
He did, chefsos? wow!!! love it!~

chefsos
02-17-2011, 04:18 PM
He did, chefsos? wow!!! love it!~Yup. The 92 was unsponsored, owned by their father Bob, too. Nice little family story, huh?

Dylan
02-17-2011, 04:31 PM
great story -- Brad's pushed his brother to finish 5th? neato

I forgot Brad is driving for Penske this season.

truebigdog, can you please add the #2 to my drivers fav list? #12 is brad's old number -- tia


turn on SPEED!

Old Dog
02-17-2011, 04:37 PM
changed

Dylan
02-17-2011, 04:43 PM
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder if SPEED will replay Thursday's NASCAR Duel races.

Qualifying - On Now (Truck Series - Fri 7:30 ET SPEED)

chefsos
02-17-2011, 04:54 PM
Dylan, I don't think there is a 12 car this year. I'd guess that the old #2 team is with Busch in the 22, and Brad's with his old #12 team in the blue deuce.

EDIT: Oops, never mind. You got it.

Dylan
02-17-2011, 05:10 PM
thanks,


Don't forget: NASCAR Nationwide February 19 Daytona Sat 1:15 p.m. ESPN2



2010 NASCAR Nationwide Official Driver Standings - Includes Driver Points, Starts, Poles, Wins, Top 5, Top 10, Winnings:

http://nationwide.nascar.com/nationwide-series/races/2010/standings-official

Dylan
02-17-2011, 06:13 PM
chefsos, which NASCAR driver or drivers do you root for?

I got a kick out of reading this article:

2011 NASCAR Rootability Rankings (Or How To Pick Your Favorite Driver)

Feb 7, 2011 - There's nothing race fans claim to hate more than being force-fed "favorite drivers" by the media. And if that's true, those people will really despise this story.

But if you already have a favorite, you won't need this helpful guide: Our first ever NASCAR Driver Rootability Rankings. This is for the people who aren't quite sure who to pull for.

Age: Recommending a driver to root for favors those who have many years left in their careers. Because if you're going to invest your passion in a driver, why not pull for a guy who's going to be around for awhile?

Here's a list of the top 35 drivers:

1. CARL EDWARDS: Look, nobody's perfect – and Edwards certainly has his faults (like almost eliminating Brad Keselowski from the planet). But as far as the total likability package, Edwards comes closest. He's always done a backflip after he wins, and now he even goes into the stands for a big ol' group hug.

While the whole Keselowski thing is certainly a black mark on his likability – and Edwards has been accused of being a phony – the driver is most often a genuinely decent person.

It's tough to sift through what's real and what's a public relations stunt these days, but Edwards does many things away from the cameras (like giving all of his race trophies away) that make him an extremely easy person to root for.

2. JOEY LOGANO: Everything is still relatively new and fresh for the 20-year-old Logano, so he's more than willing to do fan-friendly activities, conduct interviews and generally act like a normal person.

He's quick to laugh and smile, appearing as if he's actually having fun (an all-too-rare concept in the NASCAR garage these days). But at the same time, he's beginning to stand up for himself after on-track incidents – and that's a good thing.

3. JAMIE MCMURRAY: Who doesn't like McMurray? There's really nothing bad to say about him, except he's never made the Chase. If you're into the sensitive, prayerful type who stays out of controversy, McMurray is for you. Plus, he actually wins now.

4. CLINT BOWYER: There isn't a whole lot of fluff with Bowyer. He's just a simple guy from Kansas who likes to race and have a good time, and that's really the extent of it. The notable thing about Bowyer is when he's "on," he's extremely personable.

5. DENNY HAMLIN: Here's a guy who wins races and speaks his mind – two traits fans often say they like. On the other hand, he has plenty of detractors who say he speaks his mind too much. So if you don't mind a vocal, opinionated driver, Hamlin might be your man.

6. GREG BIFFLE: For some reason, Biffle doesn't have that many fans in comparison to other top drivers. It's somewhat puzzling. He wins a couple races every year, makes the Chase and says interesting things while avoiding controversy. On top of all that, he's not a jerk. Where's the love for The Biff?

7. BRAD KESELOWSKI: Though he drives too aggressively at times and therefore pisses off many other drivers – and therefore, the fans of many other drivers – Keselowski is a tremendous personality who is only going to become more relevant as the years go on. He's quite likable, but fans wearing Brad K. merchandise need to have thick skin to put up with the dirty looks and glares from the fans of whichever driver got into it with Keselowski last week.

(continued)

Dylan
02-17-2011, 06:18 PM
(Continued: On How to Pick Your Favorite Driver)

List of the top 35 Drivers

8. AJ ALLMENDINGER: Ding-dong – the Allmendinger bandwagon is here, and there's still plenty of room. 'Dinger seems to both live his life and race like one of those bouncy rubber balls: He's excitable and energetic, but occasionally all over the place. The guy has talent, though, and the slimmed-down Richard Petty Motorsports might set the stage for his breakout year.

9. JEFF GORDON: There's one big problem with Gordon – his history. Because of the way he came into the sport as a clean-cut California kid who piled up race wins and championships, Gordon was loudly booed for almost his entire career. But as a veteran who hasn't won much lately, Gordon has taken on an almost underdog quality. Plus, he's as nice of a person as you'll find anywhere – in racing or in life.

10. KASEY KAHNE: Great driver, nice guy. And if you're female, there's no reason not to like him. But what if you're a dude who works at a construction site? Can you really walk around with a Kasey Kahne T-shirt? Somehow, his massive female fan base seems to limit his appeal to men.

11. MARCOS AMBROSE: Damn, if this guy could just win a few races. With contagious enthusiasm for NASCAR and a smile that never seems to wane, Ambrose could be one of the easiest drivers to root for in years. There's just one problem: The Aussie's results are often Down Under the top 20 – except on road courses, where he's clearly the best.

12. DAVID RAGAN: Poor David. A couple years ago it looked like he was going to be a breakout star, and then he fell off the map. Still, he remains unfailingly polite and ultra-courteous – plus, there's a chance he'll be competitive again as long as he stays at Roush Fenway Racing. If you want a friendly Southern boy to root for, Ragan is your guy.

13. BRIAN VICKERS: If you like comeback stories, this one's for you. Vickers nearly died last year after blood clots were discovered in his leg and lungs, then had surgery to repair a hole in his heart. After sitting out most of the season, he's back in 2011 and ready to race again. In addition to his compelling story, though, he's both fan-friendly and capable of making the Chase.

14. MARTIN TRUEX JR.: The Michael Waltrip Racing driver only has one career win in five full seasons, so you might not get to see him drive to Victory Lane very often. But he's a friendly and likable personality, so if you can overlook the lack of performance, he might be worth supporting.

15. KYLE BUSCH: I'm confident the vast majority of NASCAR fans would have Busch ranked last on this list. He is truly reviled by many people because of his sore loser, spoiled brat image. But the guy wins – a lot. And when he's in a good mood, there's something delightfully anti-establishment about his words and actions. So if you want to go against the crowd and pick a guy who's difficult to love, there's no one better than Busch.

Continued:

chefsos
02-17-2011, 06:31 PM
chefsos, which NASCAR driver or drivers do you root for?Haven't had a real favorite since Bobby (and then Davey) Allison. That's a long time ago. I kind of followed Ward Burton for a while, and then McMurray, but I haven't really rooted for any one driver since Davey died.

Dylan
02-17-2011, 06:35 PM
(Continued: On How to Pick Your Favorite Driver)

List of the top 35 Drivers

16. TREVOR BAYNE: If you want to be among the first to pull for this promising rookie, you could reap the rewards down the line. There's few things more satisfying than rooting for a team or athlete before they've achieved anything of note, then tag along for the ride to the top. Bayne is a polite young guy with a load of potential (and is vocal about his religion, for those of you who are into that). He'll drive a partial Cup schedule this season. (** I read that Trevor is planning to drive 17 Cup races for the Wood Brothers this season – though he could drive more if they find sponsorship. He's been recognized throughout the garage as a very talented rookie driver. Carl Edwards, Kevin Harvick among others have reached out to him. I'm not sure -- but I think Trevor drives for Roush Fenway in Nationwide -- I could be wrong)

17. DAVID REUTIMANN: This is a strange case – Reutimann is 40 years old, but still in the early part of his Cup career (he got a late start). Full of self-deprecating humor and having fought hard to reach NASCAR's top level, Reutimann comes across as the ultimate underdog. The only issue is there's no guarantee he'll ever topple the sport's bigger names, and the clock is ticking.

18. JEFF BURTON: There's nothing wrong with being a Jeff Burton fan. He's a future politician and a media favorite who always offers incredible perspective on the sport through his long, detailed answers. But though Burton is capable of winning races and making the Chase (as he did last year), the veteran is 43 years old and probably only has a few years left.

19. RYAN NEWMAN: Do you have a sarcastic sense of humor? If so, you'll certainly identify with Newman. Though the "Rocket Man" missed the Chase last year, he did win a race. Overall, though, Newman can be a bit dry.

20. MATT KENSETH: Just here to race. Same as last week. Same as next week. You can't get excited about Kenseth, because he's not exciting. He's about as neutral as they come. He does win sometimes though, so that's exciting. I guess.

21. DALE EARNHARDT JR.: Dude, everyone roots for Dale Jr. already. He's a great guy, but do you really think he needs any more fans? This is your pick if you want to follow the crowd and join the masses.

22. TONY STEWART: As with Busch, you must be willing to overlook certain negatives to be a Tony Stewart fan. In Stewart's case: 1) He can be a jerk; 2) He might not sign your autograph; 3) He can be a jerk. But when he feels like it, he can also be one of the most engaging, personable drivers in NASCAR. And his peers say he's the most talented. It's up to you whether you can overlook the bad parts.

Dylan
02-17-2011, 06:39 PM
(Continued: On How to Pick Your Favorite Driver)

List of the top 35 Drivers

23. KEVIN HARVICK: The man known as "Happy" can be very difficult to like or very easy to like depending on how he's running, so it was hard to figure out where to put him on this list. The best answer is if you're a tough person wanting to root for a scrappy driver who can win races – despite being as cuddly as a cactus at times – the prickly Harvick is for you.

24. ROBBY GORDON: This is the ultimate against-the-grain pick. With an independent team and an independent mind, the outspoken driver/owner is about as different as they come. In a vanilla garage, Gordon has always been rocky road. But his days of being competitive are seemingly behind him, so rooting for him is a tough sell.


25. REGAN SMITH: Nice guy, but doesn't run up front enough.

26. CASEY MEARS: Nice guy, but doesn't run up front enough.

27. DAVID GILLILAND: Nice guy, but doesn't run up front enough.

28. TRAVIS KVAPIL: Nice guy, but doesn't run up front enough.

29. BOBBY LABONTE: Former Cup champ at tail end of his career has looked disinterested in recent years, but new ride at JTG Daugherty Racing has a chance to restore his enthusiasm.

30. MARK MARTIN: Martin, one of the classiest and most beloved drivers in NASCAR, is only near the bottom of this list for one reason: This might be his last full-time season. So if you're going to invest your fan passion in a driver, try someone who will be around a little longer.

31. KURT BUSCH: Few see the real Kurt Busch, or even know who he is. Publicly, there's the Kurt who appears in interviews with the tight, forced smile and speak-in-circles answers. Then there's the Kurt who is a hard-edged, winning racer but displays a frightening volume of anger on the team radio. We want to like him, but both Kurts are hard to embrace – and we have little indication what he's really like.

32. PAUL MENARD: It's not just because Menard's Cup ride exists due to his billionaire family's money – his quiet personality and lack of on-track success also contribute to this low ranking.

33. BILL ELLIOTT: With a partial schedule in an uncompetitive car, this 16-time winner of the Most Popular Driver award has long been a non-factor. The 55-year-old last recorded a top-10 finish in 2004.

34. JUAN PABLO MONTOYA: He doesn't care whether you like him or not, and thus does little that is likable. His most common response to any questions seems to be a shrug of the shoulders and an "I don't care." Because of that, we don't care, either.

35. JIMMIE JOHNSON: Disclaimer – Johnson is one of the nicest people in NASCAR; he's friendly, funny and extremely down to Earth. But starting to root for Johnson now would make you the ultimate bandwagon fan. The guy has just won five straight championships. He doesn't need your help, nor do the true Johnson fans need a frontrunner in their ranks.

http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2011/2/7/1979867/nascar-what-driver-root-for-2011

Dylan
02-17-2011, 06:47 PM
Haven't had a real favorite since Bobby (and then Davey) Allison. That's a long time ago. I kind of followed Ward Burton for a while, and then McMurray, but I haven't really rooted for any one driver since Davey died.

I know that Davey Allison died when the helicopter he was flying crashed at Talladega -- mid 90's?

I also remember reading that Bobby died at the dreadful Pocono Raceway...

I'll read up on their style of racing. I'm curious.

kstater
02-17-2011, 06:58 PM
I know that Davey Allison died when the helicopter he was flying crashed at Talladega -- mid 90's?

I also remember reading that Bobby died at the dreadful Pocono Raceway...

I'll read up on their style of racing. I'm curious.

Bobby Allison isn't dead.

Dylan
02-17-2011, 07:03 PM
Bobby Allison isn't dead.

:(

chefsos
02-17-2011, 07:16 PM
Davey's brother Clifford died in a race car a year before Davey's own death, about four years after Bobby's nasty crash at Pocono. Wasn't a good time for that family.

Dylan
02-17-2011, 07:21 PM
Davey's brother Clifford died in a race car a year before Davey's own death, about four years after Bobby's nasty crash at Pocono. Wasn't a good time for that family.

Oh ok. Thanks -- Sorry. I'm happy to hear he survived the wreck. It was a pretty bad accident, right?


Bobby Allison Website: Great site: http://www.bobbyallison.com/

chefsos
02-17-2011, 07:32 PM
Oh ok. Thanks -- Sorry. I'm happy to hear he survived the wreck. It was a pretty bad accident, right?


Bobby Allison Website: Great site: http://www.bobbyallison.com/
About as bad as it gets, short of being fatal. T-boned right into the driver's door, and he had massive head injuries that took years of recovery. Car looked like a wrecking ball hit it.

The Daytona 500 he won in '88, when Davey finished right behind him? To this day, he can't remember it. The memory of it's just gone.

Dylan
02-17-2011, 07:33 PM
Bobby Allison's Career Ending Crash @ Pocono

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Dylan
02-17-2011, 08:03 PM
Bobby Allison hits fence and goes airborne at Talladega 1987

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This same type of crash happens at Talladega every year.

http://ovalscreams.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/johnson-hamlin-harvick-wreck.jpg?w=475&h=192

Talladega 2010: 8 Fans injured from flying debris.

Jerm
02-17-2011, 08:42 PM
Really wonder if NASCAR will make any other rule changes before Sunday to limit the two car drafts.

Whatever changes they made didn't do much to curb them today.

chefsos
02-17-2011, 08:53 PM
Really wonder if NASCAR will make any other rule changes before Sunday to limit the two car drafts.

Whatever changes they made didn't do much to curb them today.

It's really weird watching this. There have always been two car breakaways, but the pack invariably ran them down. This year, there is no pack.

Jerm
02-17-2011, 08:59 PM
It's really weird watching this. There have always been two car breakaways, but the pack invariably ran them down. This year, there is no pack.

I really just can't get into it all TBH.

The second duel was better because the cars got more condensed at the end and we saw our typical back and forth racing.

This tag team stuff is just irritating...hopefully the finish wont be anticlimactic.

Dylan
02-18-2011, 05:58 PM
Turn on Speed

Live Truck Series race at Daytona

Speeds 198 mph

Dylan
02-18-2011, 06:00 PM
NASCAR Free Webcast Live --

http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/webcast/truck_racebuddy/speed/index.html

Amazing!

Dylan
02-18-2011, 06:07 PM
Kasey Kahne is spotting for Brad Sweet

51 Aric Almirola Toyota Vision Airlines Vision Aviation Racing Doug George
50 T.J. Bell Chevrolet Liberty Tire Recycling/Pinnacle Rubber Mulch MAKE Motorsports Tom Buzze
57 Norm Benning Chevrolet Norm Benning Racing Norm Benning Racing James Dugger
30 Todd Bodine Toyota Tire Kingdom/Valvoline Germain Racing Mike Hillman Jr.
31 James Buescher Chevrolet Exide Batteries Turner Motorsports Michael Shelton
18 Kyle Busch Toyota Dollar General Kyle Busch Motorsports Eric Phillips
4 Ricky Carmichael Chevrolet Monster Energy Turner Motorsports Mark Rette
10 Jennifer Jo Cobb Ford DriventoHonor/LillysCosmetics.com Jennifer Jo Cobb Racing Steve Kuykendall
22 Joey Coulter* Chevrolet Richard Childress Racing Richard Childress Racing Harold Holly
88 Matt Crafton Chevrolet Herculiner/Menards ThorSport Racing Bud Haefele
173 Rick Crawford Chevrolet Superseal Construction Products/County Building Centers Tagsby Racing Travis Sharpe
102 Jamie Dick Chevrolet VivaAutoGroup.com Motorway Motorsports Corrie Stott
3 Austin Dillon Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops/Tracker Richard Childress Racing Gary Stockman Jr.
1 Jeffrey Earnhardt* Chevrolet Fuel Doctor Platinum Rick Ware Racing Joe Lax
27 Chris Eggleston* Dodge SponsorShorty.com Winfield Motorsports Rob Winfield
28 Grant Enfinger Chevrolet FDNY Racing Jim Rosenblum Racing Dick Rahilly
84 Chris Fontaine Toyota Glenden Enterprises Glenden Enterprises Team Kevin Ingram
62 Brendan Gaughan Toyota South Point Hotel & Casino Germain Racing Bryan Berry
46 Craig Goess* Toyota Greenville Toyota Eddie Sharp Racing Trip Bruce
168 Clay Greenfield Dodge SaveMyFairgrounds.com Alger Motorsports Joey Jones
33 Ron Hornaday Chevrolet Steak-umm Kevin Harvick, Inc. Jeff Hensley
29 Parker Kligerman* Dodge Brad Keselowski Racing Brad Keselowski Racing Jeff Stankiewicz
5 Travis Kvapil Toyota International Trucks/Monaco RV Randy Moss Motorsports Rick Viers
77 Justin Lofton Toyota Lofton Cattle Germain Racing Ryan Fugle
20 Johanna Long* Toyota Panhandle Grading and Paving Panhandle Motorsports Kevin Starland
25 Tayler Malsam Toyota One Eighty/Odd Manor/Iron Horse Jeans Randy Moss Motorsports Dan Stillman
66 Justin Marks Chevrolet GoPro Turn One Racing Doug Wolcott
99 Chad McCumbee Ford College Complete Chase Mattioli Racing Cal Boprey
07 Donnie Neuenberger Chevrolet Lilly Trucking SS Green Light Racing Butch Miller
176 Alli Owens Ford Rue & Ziffra, PA /AXA Financial Ryan Hackett Racing Steve Darne
7 Miguel Paludo* Toyota Stemco/Duroline Red Horse Racing Rick Gay
9 Max Papis Toyota GEICO Germain Racing Randy Goss
17 Timothy Peters Toyota K&N Filters/Crescent Tools Red Horse Racing Butch Hylton
8 Nelson Piquet Jr.* Chevrolet Qualcomm/Nelson Piquet Kevin Harvick, Inc. Chris Carrier
85 Brent Raymer Ford Ford. Drive one. Brent Raymer Racing Josh Raymer
92 Clay Rogers Chevrolet Action Gator Tire/Fleet HQ.com RBR Enterprises Michael Hester
2 Elliott Sadler Chevrolet OneMain Financial Kevin Harvick, Inc. Bruce Cook
13 Johnny Sauter Chevrolet SafeAuto Insurance Co./Curb Records ThorSport Racing Joe Shear Jr.
93 Shane Sieg Chevrolet S&W Towing Sieg Racing Tony Wilson
39 Ryan Sieg Chevrolet S&W Services Sieg Racing Mike Garvey
45 Mike Skinner Toyota Cushman Eddie Sharp Racing Jefferson Hodges
81 David Starr Toyota Zachry SS Green Light Racing Jason Miller
32 Brad Sweet Chevrolet Great Clips Turner Motorsports Trent Owens
15 Michael Waltrip Toyota NASCAR.COM RaceView/Wounded Warrior Project Vision Aviation Racing Doug Howe
23 Jason White Chevrolet GunBroker.com Joe Denette Motorsports Chad Kendrick
60 Cole Whitt* Chevrolet Red Bull Turn One Racing Marcus Richmond

Dylan
02-18-2011, 06:24 PM
I'm going with Kyle Busch & Nelson Piquet Jr, but hope Mike Waltrip does well in his first ever Truck race.

Dale's grandson Jeffrey is driving #1 truck.

Richard Childress grandson Austin Dillon is driving #3 truck

F1 racer Nelson Piquet Jr is driving #8 truck -- Gawd, he's smokin' hot!

http://www.dthoi.com/forums/images/smilies/yim/yim_drooling.gif

http://answers.bettor.com/images/Articles/thumbs/extralarge/2010_10_31-2010_10_31_9_54_52-jpg-37802.jpg


CAUTION, CAUTION IS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

Dylan
02-18-2011, 07:07 PM
THE BIG ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG.... Bodies flying everywhere.

Numerous trucks are gone! LMAO

milkman
02-18-2011, 07:10 PM
Question for NASCAR fan.

If you couldn't watch the Daytona 500, and your only option for coverage was radio, would you listen?

kstater
02-18-2011, 07:11 PM
Question for NASCAR fan.

If you couldn't watch the Daytona 500, and your only option for coverage was radio, would you listen?

I've listened to MRN many times.

Dylan
02-18-2011, 07:14 PM
Question for NASCAR fan.

If you couldn't watch the Daytona 500, and your only option for coverage was radio, would you listen?

No, milkman...

TV is right to highlight these daredevils... j/m/o

It's a visual sport -- Race rage and all...

I love football -- but football is a game -- Racing is about life and death every time a driver steps behind the wheel of a race car. again j/m/o

milkman
02-18-2011, 07:17 PM
I've listened to MRN many times.

MRN?

That a race radio network or something?

kstater
02-18-2011, 07:19 PM
MRN?

That a race radio network or something?

http://www.motorracingnetwork.com/Affiliates/Affiliates.aspx

Dylan
02-18-2011, 07:23 PM
Daytona Int'l Speedway leads in racing related deaths the since the track opened in the late 50's.