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malachi47000
02-01-2011, 10:03 AM
Posted by Josh Alper on February 1, 2011, 11:00 AM EST
Jared Gaither

The one thing that the Ravens would need to know from Jared Gaither is something that he can’t possible tell them when they sit down to talk on Wednesday.

The Ravens need to know if they can count on Gaither to both practice and play in games for them during the 2011 season if they are going to re-sign him. That’s impossible to know in February when Gaither is coming off a year lost to a foot injury that may have resulted from his showing up at camp in poor shape as a result of back problems and unhappiness with the lack of a contract extension.

The injury problems are bad enough, but the questions about his work ethic raised by last summer’s issues have made it hard for the Ravens to put a full level of trust into Gaither. That explains why a Ravens official told Jamison Hensley of the Baltimore Sun that the chances of Gaither returning for another season were “slim.”

If Gaither does leave, the Ravens will have a big hole on the offensive line. Michael Oher was less effective as a left tackle this season than he was as a rookie on the right side, although that move was planned before Gaither’s injury. Marshal Yanda took over on the right and did okay while simultaneously making it clear he was a better fit at guard. The struggles of the offensive line were fingered as a big reason for Baltimore’s offensive slowdown down the stretch of the regular season, which means the team needs to be sure about the direction they take heading into next year.

The labor uncertainty might actually wind up helping the two sides find a common ground as a short offseason would hamper the Ravens’ ability to replace Gaither with a rookie or a free agent from outside the organization. A lack of trust is a lot to overcome, however, and it would be a major stumbling block to any discussion of a long-term contract with the Ravens.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/01/slim-chance-jared-gaither-re-signs-with-ravens/

KCrockaholic
02-01-2011, 10:06 AM
I'd love to have him.

doomy3
02-01-2011, 10:08 AM
Yes please.

Pestilence
02-01-2011, 10:09 AM
Can he play RT or would this be replacing Albert?

DBOSHO
02-01-2011, 10:09 AM
Dibs.

KCrockaholic
02-01-2011, 10:11 AM
Can he play RT or would this be replacing Albert?

RT

DeezNutz
02-01-2011, 10:12 AM
Per the CBA, if this team is not active in FA, going after legit players and not left-over trash, I'm going to be annoyed.

There's no excuse. Enough of a foundation is in place to try to accumulate strategic pieces.

Pestilence
02-01-2011, 10:15 AM
RT

Did he play RT this year with the Ravens? I know they moved Oher over to LT.

BigMeatballDave
02-01-2011, 10:17 AM
Per the CBA, if this team is not active in FA, going after legit players and not left-over trash, I'm going to be annoyed.

There's no excuse. Enough of a foundation is in place to try to accumulate strategic pieces. I will be a little more than annoyed. :)

Count Zarth
02-01-2011, 10:17 AM
Forget this. Chiefs aren't going to pay Cassel, Charles, Bowe AND Gaither. Some team is going to drop a huge contract on Gaither and the Chiefs won't be interested in competing.

DaneMcCloud
02-01-2011, 10:22 AM
Forget this. Chiefs aren't going to pay Cassel, Charles, Bowe AND Gaither. Some team is going to drop a huge contract on Gaither and the Chiefs won't be interested in competing.

Bullshit.

Charles has been paid. Cassel's deal is relatively small considering he just earned his first Pro Bowl berth. There's no way Clark Hunt lets Dwayne Bowe walk.

And finally, Gaither isn't going to command a huge salary. I'd be shocked if he gets in the $3 million per year range. He's a right tackle with issues, although I'd take him.

Count Zarth
02-01-2011, 10:27 AM
There's no way Clark Hunt lets Dwayne Bowe walk.

That's kinda my point...the Chiefs have a lot of people to pay.


And finally, Gaither isn't going to command a huge salary. I'd be shocked if he gets in the $3 million per year range. He's a right tackle with issues, although I'd take him.

Based on what? He has 28 starts in the NFL, all at left tackle if I'm not mistaken.

DeezNutz
02-01-2011, 10:28 AM
That's kinda my point...the Chiefs have a lot of people to pay.


And a lot of money with which to pay them. I expect "team friendly" deals, similar to the one offered Charles, for both Bowe and Flowers.

jspchief
02-01-2011, 10:31 AM
so the only thing more questionable than his injury is his work ethic? Where do I sign up?

DaneMcCloud
02-01-2011, 10:33 AM
Based on what? He has 28 starts in the NFL, all at left tackle if I'm not mistaken.

He played left tackle before Oher was drafted. He was "okay" for a 5th rounder but as soon as he was injured, Oher filled in and played much better in 2009 than Gaither (with O'Neil Cousins on the right).

Their plan was to play Gaither on the right side, until he was injured. He's got a questionable work ethic, which is why he was a fifth rounder and he's probably better suited on the right side than the left.

Some team may be willing to pay him left tackle money, but I doubt it. After missing the entire 2010 season to injury, I'll be surprised if there are teams lining up to pay him the big bucks. Most likely, he'll stay in Baltimore as a right tackle.

CaliforniaChief
02-01-2011, 10:34 AM
And a lot of money with which to pay them. I expect "team friendly" deals, similar to the one offered Charles, for both Bowe and Flowers.

QFT.

The Charles deal was an absolute steal for the Chiefs.

DaneMcCloud
02-01-2011, 10:35 AM
And a lot of money with which to pay them. I expect "team friendly" deals, similar to the one offered Charles, for both Bowe and Flowers.

Exactly.

Clark Hunt has a bevy of young, emerging stars and I'll be shocked if he lets them walk away, especially considering his mantra of building a young team through the draft.

As a matter of fact, this is exactly what we've seen: DJ & Charles both were locked up long term to "friendly" contracts. The word on the street is that salaries will be reduced in the upcoming CBA so the Chiefs are wise to lock their guys up at reasonable rates.

It's good for the team and good for the players.

doomy3
02-01-2011, 10:36 AM
I'd put Gaither at LT, and not think twice about it. IMO, Gaither is a much better LT than Albert.

Then, you can try Albert at RT, or kick him inside to guard.

A line of

Gaither
Albert
?
Asomoah
?

would be awesome.

doomy3
02-01-2011, 10:38 AM
He played left tackle before Oher was drafted. He was "okay" for a 5th rounder but as soon as he was injured, Oher filled in and played much better in 2009 than Gaither (with O'Neil Cousins on the right).

Their plan was to play Gaither on the right side, until he was injured. He's got a questionable work ethic, which is why he was a fifth rounder and he's probably better suited on the right side than the left.

Some team may be willing to pay him left tackle money, but I doubt it. After missing the entire 2010 season to injury, I'll be surprised if there are teams lining up to pay him the big bucks. Most likely, he'll stay in Baltimore as a right tackle.

Most reports out of Baltimore I read this year said that Oher should be moved back to LT next year, because he wasn't as good as Gaither was on the left side.

KCrockaholic
02-01-2011, 10:38 AM
Did he play RT this year with the Ravens? I know they moved Oher over to LT.

They moved him to RT in the pre-season. And he played RT in college.

Pestilence
02-01-2011, 10:39 AM
Most reports out of Baltimore I read this year said that Oher should be moved back to RT next year, because he wasn't as good as Gaither was on the left side.

This is what I've heard.

doomy3
02-01-2011, 10:40 AM
His injuries scare me, but if he is healthy he is a much better LT than Albert is.

DaneMcCloud
02-01-2011, 10:40 AM
I'd put Gaither at LT, and not think twice about it. IMO, Gaither is a much better LT than Albert.

Then, you can try Albert at RT, or kick him inside to guard.

A line of

Gaither
Albert
?
Asomoah
?

would be awesome.

The problem with that is that you have a team that's been excellent at talent evaluation that wants him on the right side.

So, in your scenario, you overpay (because you'll have to overpay to pry him from the Ravens) a guy with a questionable work ethic that's coming off of injury that played next to a Pro Bowler in Ben Grubbs, then move a three year starting left tackle to guard and bring in two other offensive lineman.

That's a recipe for disaster, IMO. Besides the Chiefs needing three new interior starters (in which Asamoah could start at either right or left guard), the Chiefs biggest concern among the offensive line (outside of center, which is a glaring need), IMO, is Bill Muir.

Albert & Richardson have failed to improve and that lies directly with the line coach.

doomy3
02-01-2011, 10:45 AM
The problem with that is that you have a team that's been excellent at talent evaluation that wants him on the right side.

So, in your scenario, you overpay (because you'll have to overpay to pry him from the Ravens) a guy with a questionable work ethic that's coming off of injury that played next to a Pro Bowler in Ben Grubbs, then move a three year starting left tackle to guard and bring in two other offensive lineman.

That's a recipe for disaster, IMO. Besides the Chiefs needing three new interior starters (in which Asamoah could start at either right or left guard), the Chiefs biggest concern among the offensive line (outside of center, which is a glaring need), IMO, is Bill Muir.

Albert & Richardson have failed to improve and that lies directly with the line coach.

I'd bring in 3 linemen in any scenario (center, RT, guard), so I don't look at it as being a recipe for disaster. In this scenario, we upgrade at LT (if he is healthy), we move Albert inside where he could be a Pro Bowl guard, IMO, and we still need to address RT and C, the same as now.

And yes, I agree we should have seen improvement from Albert and Richardson. Some of that blame falls on Muir, but some has to fall on Albert and Richardson too.

KC Tattoo
02-01-2011, 10:45 AM
We don't need a bunch of free agents. Barry Richardson can do a fine job as he is still learning it at RT. This was an improvement learning season and the players are doing that. Yea we had a set back the last two games but can't take away the experience these guys got especially the younger ones.

doomy3
02-01-2011, 10:46 AM
We don't need a bunch of free agents. Barry Richardson can do a fine job as he is still learning it at RT. This was an improvement learning season and the players are doing that. Yea we had a set back the last two games but can't take away the experience these guys got especially the younger ones.

No, we don't "need" to bring in a bunch of free agents, but if you could bring in more talented players that would make your team better, why wouldn't you want to do that?

DeezNutz
02-01-2011, 10:47 AM
We don't need a bunch of free agents. Barry Richardson can do a fine job as he is still learning it at RT. This was an improvement learning season and the players are doing that. Yea we had a set back the last two games but can't take away the experience these guys got especially the younger ones.

I don't necessarily disagree with this, but I think we MUST have serious competition at RT, and, while I think center is a far more pressing need on the line, drafting a RT early wouldn't be the dumbest thing in the world.

It will be really, really tough to fuck up our selection in the first round.

DaneMcCloud
02-01-2011, 10:51 AM
I'd bring in 3 linemen in any scenario (center, RT, guard), so I don't look at it as being a recipe for disaster. In this scenario, we upgrade at LT (if he is healthy), we move Albert inside where he could be a Pro Bowl guard, IMO, and we still need to address RT and C, the same as now.

And yes, I agree we should have seen improvement from Albert and Richardson. Some of that blame falls on Muir, but some has to fall on Albert and Richardson too.

The Chiefs need a center. That is there biggest need, first and foremost, on the offensive line. Next, they need a stronger, more athletic right guard, which they have in Asamoah. Lilja played "okay" but he's better suited for the left side, IMO.

Waters somehow made the Pro Bowl this year but I'd be shocked if he follows up with stellar play in 2011. But at this point in time, he's going to be difficult to replace, unless his play completely falls off a cliff.

After center and right guard, right tackle should be an area the Chiefs look to upgrade. I'm a Richardson fan and he's come a long, long way since being drafted in the 6th round in 2008. But I think that solid competition would be a healthy and good thing for Richardson and IMO, that doesn't come from O'Callaghan.

KC Tattoo
02-01-2011, 10:53 AM
No, we don't "need" to bring in a bunch of free agents, but if you could bring in more talented players that would make your team better, why wouldn't you want to do that?

Because I believe in the draft, works much better & for long term success. We've gone down this road with FA and so far look at how it's gotten us with play offs. They do ok for short term but they also take away from players that need to get on the field to play to get better. I want guys with upcomming skills and become something special for us. I just don't care for FA that much at all. Takes away the growth & development of the guys we draft. JMO. It's what the draft is all about, to build a championship around.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-01-2011, 10:54 AM
I live out in MD this dude is a cancer he wants LT money and when the ravens said no you are playing RT .This dude went out and lost 50 pounds to like 260 and you want this cancer here really?

Count Zarth
02-01-2011, 10:55 AM
Best reason to bring in Gaither - 0 depth at either tackle spot.

But I wouldn't want to give him a big contract...and I think some team will do that because of his experience at LT, and the fact it's hard to find good tackles in FA.

DaneMcCloud
02-01-2011, 10:56 AM
Best reason to bring in Gaither - 0 depth at either tackle spot.

But I wouldn't want to give him a big contract...and I think some team will do that because of his experience at LT, and the fact it's hard to find good tackles in FA.

If you're worried about depth, take a right tackle in the draft that can beat out Richardson, and move Richardson to "swing" tackle.

Don't bring in a overpaid, cancerous piece of shit.

Mr. Laz
02-01-2011, 10:58 AM
Per the CBA, if this team is not active in FA, going after legit players and not left-over trash, I'm going to be annoyed.

There's no excuse. Enough of a foundation is in place to try to accumulate strategic pieces.
you will be annoyed at Pioli?

surely not

Micjones
02-01-2011, 11:07 AM
Not ready to give up on Richardson just yet.
We do need depth along the line, but I'd rather see us draft those linemen.

milkman
02-01-2011, 11:17 AM
Because I believe in the draft, works much better & for long term success. We've gone down this road with FA and so far look at how it's gotten us with play offs. They do ok for short term but they also take away from players that need to get on the field to play to get better. I want guys with upcomming skills and become something special for us. I just don't care for FA that much at all. Takes away the growth & development of the guys we draft. JMO. It's what the draft is all about, to build a championship around.

The problem with our free agent signings in the past is that we've always gone after guys at the end of their careers, or that have had injury issues that allowed us to sign them on teh cheap.

Free agency is another tool, along with the draft, that can be used to build a team.

I wouldn't want Gaither because of his injury history and work ethic, but if the Falcons let Tyson Clabo hit the free agent market, I'd use the resourses at my disposal to make him a Chief.

doomy3
02-01-2011, 11:20 AM
Because I believe in the draft, works much better & for long term success. We've gone down this road with FA and so far look at how it's gotten us with play offs. They do ok for short term but they also take away from players that need to get on the field to play to get better. I want guys with upcomming skills and become something special for us. I just don't care for FA that much at all. Takes away the growth & development of the guys we draft. JMO. It's what the draft is all about, to build a championship around.

Jared Gaither is 24 years old. He has a world of upside and is extremely young, and has competed at a high level in the NFL. I'm not sure what more you could ask for.

DaneMcCloud
02-01-2011, 11:24 AM
Jared Gaither is 24 years old. He has a world of upside and is extremely young, and has competed at a high level in the NFL. I'm not sure what more you could ask for.

1. Dedication
2. Love of the game
3. Great locker room presence

bowener
02-01-2011, 11:27 AM
I live out in MD this dude is a cancer he wants LT money and when the ravens said no you are playing RT .This dude went out and lost 50 pounds to like 260 and you want this cancer here really?

Question:

Is it more likely that he lost 50 pounds because of a foot injury, which kept him from being able to fully work out?

It seems more logical to me that a really bad foot injury is why a large man, 6'9", dropped so much weight, and far less logical that it was an act of defiance against the team that he is trying to get a lot of money from.

CupidStunt
02-01-2011, 11:37 AM
Good player but too rich for the Cheaps. As with every other good FA this year.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-01-2011, 11:56 AM
Question:

Is it more likely that he lost 50 pounds because of a foot injury, which kept him from being able to fully work out?

It seems more logical to me that a really bad foot injury is why a large man, 6'9", dropped so much weight, and far less logical that it was an act of defiance against the team that he is trying to get a lot of money from.

He lost the pounds before camp then he got hurt in camp cause of it.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-01-2011, 11:59 AM
Tuesday, August 03, 2010
Gaither's weight loss may influence starting lineup


While reading through and eventually posting Aaron Wilson’s new pieces here on Ravens24x7.com today, two things jump off the page at me: 1) Aaron’s commentary on Jared Gaither’s weight and; 2) An interesting little blurb about newly acquired CB Doug Dutch.

Gaither is like a walking reality show. He’s dropped down to 311 pounds, 29 below his ’09 playing weight of 340 pounds. That is substantial and not to have consulted with the team before taking the Medifast approach is just flat out irresponsible and/or selfish.

The team has strength and conditioning specialists on staff. If Gaither was genuinely trying to improve his play by re-sculpting his body, why not consult with them if in fact he has the best interests of the team in mind?

Gaither chose not to work out with the team during the offseason. But despite his poor attendance during OTA’s, the team did see him on occasion. Twenty-nine pounds just doesn’t go away between mid June and mid July, does it? Were the Ravens not paying attention?

Aaron’s take on the weight loss is thoughtful. Could Gaither have intentionally dropped the weight so that the Ravens would be forced to play him at left tackle? Left tackles in the NFL are usually more nimble than their counterparts to the right. They are generally asked to control speed rushers while right tackles usually are tasked with battling larger and more physical defensive ends.

Left tackles are paid substantially more money than right tackles – significantly more money (unless of course a club is protecting a left-handed quarterback).

Might Gaither’s agent Drew Rosenhaus have steered his client down Jenny Craig Lane in order to get the bigger pay day next season?

Some might say that conspiracy theorist rhetoric. But given Rosenhaus’ track record of gamesmanship at the bargaining table, the notion can hardly be summarily dismissed.

Speaking of thought, it seems to me that the Ravens didn’t give much of it to the trade of John Beck to the Redskins for CB Doug Dutch. This shakes out for me as trading one warm practice body for another. Dutch arrives today to take away some of the CB reps from the injury depleted secondary and that’s ok I suppose.

But if you are expecting another Ozzie Newsome diamond in the rough with Dutch, don’t hold your breath. You see the Maryland native couldn’t even make the final cut for the Las Vegas Locomotives of the United Football League.
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Pestilence
02-01-2011, 12:02 PM
So did he way 260 or 311?

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-01-2011, 12:04 PM
So did he way 260 or 311?

he went down to 260 during the season cause he didn't play

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-01-2011, 12:06 PM
O yea i forgot to say he was a head case at MARYLAND long list of stuff


Sources: Terps OT Gaither declared academically ineligibleEmail Print Comments2 By Mark Schlabach
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Once-promising Maryland offensive tackle Jared Gaither has been declared academically ineligible for the 2007 season, sources close to the situation said Wednesday.

Gaither, a rising junior from White Plains, Md., was held out of spring drills to concentrate on academics, but didn't meet requirements to play this coming season. He met with Terrapins coach Ralph Friedgen on Tuesday to decide his future and is scheduled to meet with him again later this week.

Gaither has two options: enter the NFL's supplemental draft (he attended Hargrave Military Academy in Virginia in 2004 and two years with the Terps, making him eligible to turn professional) or return to Maryland this fall and attempt to become eligible for the 2008 season.

Sources said they believed Gaither was leaning toward returning to school this fall.

An NFL scout, who was attending former Georgia cornerback Paul Oliver's workout in Athens, Ga., on Wednesday, said Gaither would be the most desirable player available if he enters the supplemental draft. Gaither didn't allow a sack in 11 games as a freshman at Maryland in 2005.

Gaither, who started nine of 13 games in 2006, has tremendous size and athleticism. But the 6-foot-9, 350-pound tackle has been in and out of Friedgen's dog house during his two-plus seasons at Maryland. He quickly fell into academic trouble at Maryland and was suspended by Friedgen for last season's opener against Division I-AA William & Mary.

The Terrapins will have two new starting tackles this coming season. They also lost starting left tackle Stephon Heyer, who struggled during the 2006 season after recovering from a torn ACL that caused him to miss his entire junior season. Senior Scott Burley and junior Dane Randolph were the No. 1 tackles coming out of spring drills.

Randolph, a converted defensive lineman, started four games after unseating Gaither at right tackle late last season. Senior Scott Burley, who started in Gaither's absence against William & Mary in 2006 and has played in 13 games the last three seasons combined, is expected to replace Heyer at left tackle.

Marcellus
02-01-2011, 12:06 PM
Sounds safe to say we don't want him other than maybe a 1 year cheap get your shit together deal.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-01-2011, 12:12 PM
A clue to why Jared Gaither is available
Posted by NBC Sports on April 11, 2010, 11:41 AM EST
There is an obvious red flag to any team that’s interested in Ravens tackle Jared Gaither: Baltimore is willing to move him.

The Ravens know what a quality tackle looks like. The fact they are reportedly eager to deal Gaither for a second-round pick should create doubt in the minds of interested teams.

I’ve wondered why Baltimore was willing to part ways, and got a clue Sunday in the Baltimore Sun. Ken Murray refers to Gaither’s “half-baked work ethic.” (That’s better than wake-n-baked work ethic.)

Gaither has put enough impressive play on film that he’s still among the more likely veterans to get dealt on the draft’s second day.

DaneMcCloud
02-01-2011, 12:15 PM
Sounds safe to say we don't want him other than maybe a 1 year cheap get your shit together deal.

I seriously doubt he fits the "profile".

Marcellus
02-01-2011, 12:24 PM
I seriously doubt he fits the "profile".

Without a doubt. I am sure KC is not interested.

DaneMcCloud
02-01-2011, 12:34 PM
Without a doubt. I am sure KC is not interested.

I hope not. And I mean that seriously.

As much as I disliked Pioli's personnel decisions in his first season, last year's draft and free agency decisions made sense to me from a character and talent standpoint and it's obvious they paid off in 2010.

I'd be shocked if he think the Chiefs at this point in time are ready to allow a malcontent in the locker room.

Pestilence
02-01-2011, 12:36 PM
I hope not. And I mean that seriously.

As much as I disliked Pioli's personnel decisions in his first season, last year's draft and free agency decisions made sense to me from a character and talent standpoint and it's obvious they paid off in 2010.

I'd be shocked if he think the Chiefs at this point in time are ready to allow a malcontent in the locker room.

Exactly why our #1 priority should be signing Ryan Kalil.

KCDC
02-01-2011, 12:52 PM
1. Dedication
2. Love of the game
3. Great locker room presence


Given what Pioli looks for in a player, you can rule out any move for Gaither. Gaither is a "me first" guy that doesn't stay in shape. It's fun to think about that talent (if healthy) on our line, but he's not coming to KC. Best look elesewhere.

Saul Good
02-01-2011, 12:55 PM
A clue to why Jared Gaither is available
Posted by NBC Sports on April 11, 2010, 11:41 AM EST
There is an obvious red flag to any team that’s interested in Ravens tackle Jared Gaither: Baltimore is willing to move him.

The Ravens know what a quality tackle looks like. The fact they are reportedly eager to deal Gaither for a second-round pick should create doubt in the minds of interested teams.

I’ve wondered why Baltimore was willing to part ways, and got a clue Sunday in the Baltimore Sun. Ken Murray refers to Gaither’s “half-baked work ethic.” (That’s better than wake-n-baked work ethic.)

Gaither has put enough impressive play on film that he’s still among the more likely veterans to get dealt on the draft’s second day.

Sounds like they'd love to get a second rounder for him because he's about to leave for nothing.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-01-2011, 12:57 PM
Sounds like they'd love to get a second rounder for him because he's about to leave for nothing.

That was last year lol hes a free agent this year

bowener
02-01-2011, 12:59 PM
he went down to 260 during the season cause he didn't play

Ok, that is far different than 260 in the offseason, man. I'm going to guess that drop in weight still came from being injured. The first 29 pounds was him trying to get down to LT playing weight or something, but if he got down to 260, that is most likely on not being able to work out or anorexia.

edit:

I don't want him as a Chief btw.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-01-2011, 01:00 PM
Ok, that is far different than 260 in the offseason, man. I'm going to guess that drop in weight still came from being injured. The first 29 pounds was him trying to get down to LT playing weight or something, but if he got down to 260, that is most likely on not being able to work out or anorexia.

DUMBASS the ravens told him he not playing LT but he lost the weight anyway to make the ravens play him at lt

Pestilence
02-01-2011, 01:04 PM
DUMBASS the ravens told him he not playing LT but he lost the weight anyway to make the ravens play him at lt

Settle the fuck down n00b.

bowener
02-01-2011, 01:08 PM
DUMBASS the ravens told him he not playing LT but he lost the weight anyway to make the ravens play him at lt

Eat a bag of dicks. I was pointing out that what you originally said was not the case. He dropped down to a normal weight in the offseason for any LT, 311 lbs, [in a hope that he could force the hands of the Ravens to play him at LT or trade him to play LT somewhere else...] I'm not defending the guy, dumbass.

Chiefnj2
02-01-2011, 01:24 PM
Gaither said he worked out to go from 340 to 319 because he felt the lower weight would help him overcome some foot and ankle injuries that had plagued him.

People can say what they want, but for a big guy to legally drop that weight in the offseason is pretty impressive.

Pestilence
02-01-2011, 01:25 PM
Gaither said he worked out to go from 340 to 319 because he felt the lower weight would help him overcome some foot and ankle injuries that had plagued him.

People can say what they want, but for a big guy to legally drop that weight in the offseason is pretty impressive.

Shut it. Haydenchiefs101 said he's a douchebag.

doomy3
02-01-2011, 01:36 PM
Gaither said he worked out to go from 340 to 319 because he felt the lower weight would help him overcome some foot and ankle injuries that had plagued him.

People can say what they want, but for a big guy to legally drop that weight in the offseason is pretty impressive.

And how dare him drop the weight to become faster to become an even better LT when the Ravens wanted to move Oher over there. Gaither should have just surrendered the position, even though he was a better LT than Oher.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-01-2011, 01:43 PM
WOW some people just dont get this guy is a head case .Nothing but problems since his days at maryland. Trust me he is not the right 53.

DeezNutz
02-01-2011, 03:14 PM
Trust me he is not the right 53.

Suddenly I'm more interested.