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Von Dumbass
02-03-2011, 11:27 AM
Bill Muir To Be Named Chiefs Offensive Coordinator

Head Coach Todd Haley said after the thorough search process, it was clear that Muir was the right man for the job

Following an extensive coaching search the Chiefs have named an offensive coordinator.

Opting to promote from within, the Chiefs will name offensive line coach Bill Muir as Kansas City’s offensive coordinator later today. Muir owns a deep coaching history that includes 33 years of NFL experience and championship roots that trace back to the offensive system currently utilized in Kansas City. He is the most tenured member of the Chiefs coaching staff and has previously served in coordinator roles on both sides of the football at the NFL level.

Muir arrived in Kansas City two years ago after seven seasons as Tampa Bay’s offensive coordinator/offensive line coach. The Buccaneers won three division crowns and a Super Bowl XXXVII championship during Muir’s tenure with the team.

Head Coach Todd Haley said after the thorough search process, it was clear that Muir was the right man for the job.

"We are very fortunate to have someone of Bill's caliber take over the role of offensive coordinator,” Haley said. “Bill’s depth of experience, his championship success as a coach and as a coordinator is widely respected around the league, and he will serve our young and veteran players very well and provide critical continuity as we continue to develop on offense.”

Haley and Muir will enter their 10th season working together in 2011 - a relationship first forged with the New York Jets in 1995. The duo, along with current Chiefs assistant head coach Maurice Carthon, were offensive assistants on the Jets team that advanced to the 1998 AFC Championship Game and have extended much of that same offensive philosophy in Kansas City over the past two years.

Muir’s hiring will enable the Chiefs to build upon and continue forward with the offensive foundation developed over Haley’s first two seasons as head coach.

“Coach Muir has been a big part of what we’ve been able to do as an offense, so I’m excited about him taking over the coordinator role," said QB Matt Cassel. "As a quarterback and as an offense, continuity is important, and having someone with Coach Muir’s experience will help us continue to move forward in the right direction.”

Throughout his NFL coaching career, Muir has consistently provided a proven track record of developing offensive talent. That was clear again last season when Kansas City’s offensive line posted a number of significant improvements between years one and two of the program.

The offense improved upon 18 statistical categories in 2010, including increases in points scored (72 more), first downs (63 more), total yards (744 more) and a 29% decrease in sacks allowed (13 fewer).

The Chiefs also led the league in rushing for the first time since 1995, averaging 164.2 yards per game. Jamaal Charles (1,467) and Thomas Jones (896) combined to post the best rushing total (2,363) by NFL teammates in 2010 and the top total in Chiefs history.

Charles would go on to earn AP All-Pro and FedEx Ground NFL Player of the Year honors.

In addition to serving his new role as offensive coordinator, Muir will maintain responsibilities as the Chiefs offensive line coach, working with assistant offensive line coach Pat Perles on the continued development of the group.

Muir’s NFL career began as a scout with Tampa Bay in 1978. He’s served seven different franchises as an offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, assistant head coach and offensive line coach since leaving the collegiate and non-NFL coaching ranks.

The Bill Muir File:

2009-11: Kansas City Chiefs – Offensive Line (2009-10); Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line (2011)

2002-08: Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line

1995-01: New York Jets – Offensive Line

1992-94: Philadelphia Eagles – Offensive Line

1989-91: Indianapolis Colts – Defensive Coordinator (1989-90); Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line (1991)

1985-88: Detroit Lions – Offensive Line

1982-84: New England Patriots – Offensive Line

1978-81: Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Scout (1978); Pro Scout (1979-81)

1976-77: SMU – Offensive Line

1974-75: Houston/Shreveport (WFL) – Offensive Line

1972-73: Idaho State – Defensive Coordinator

1970-71: Rhode Island – Defensive Coordinator

1968-69: Orlando (Continental League) – Offensive Line

1966-67: Delaware Valley – Offensive/Defensive Line

1965: Susquehanna – Offensive/Defensive Line
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Bill-Muir-To-Be-Named-Chiefs-Offensive-Coordinator/d114d2ef-b017-47c4-b080-28315f288152

Sannyasi
02-03-2011, 11:29 AM
Well, fuck

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 11:29 AM
GTFO. :facepalm:

Ebolapox
02-03-2011, 11:30 AM
well, guess he can't fuck over our offensive line any worse.

tomahawk kid
02-03-2011, 11:30 AM
Holy shit.

Here comes the meltdown........

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 11:30 AM
Good Christ.

Something is definitely rotten in the state of Denmark.

Bowser
02-03-2011, 11:31 AM
wat

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 11:31 AM
http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/094/126/original/95ccd92fcbcf0e06c1d97c7750d97eef.gif?1295473637

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 11:31 AM
:facepalm:

beach tribe
02-03-2011, 11:32 AM
Ouch. Didn't they just say he wasn't qualified a lil while back?

DeezNutz
02-03-2011, 11:32 AM
No way.

Fitting that this news would be delivered by a Denver fan.

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 11:32 AM
Look at this guy...

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06r61aD5CxfBb/439x.jpg

http://imageofsport.hosted.photocore.us/image/thumb/250-250/4182963.jpg

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http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/75434368.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921A343B2C87A49D8F573109E5B0FE8569FCA12CB83E3B88316B50C54FEEB94EB3F

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/89728300.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D05FBE77969E94AD4A2C4B3F050FEC8E23B2C1BB7CC48070FBE30A760B0D811297


WOULD YOU TAKE PLAYCALLING ADVICE FROM THAT FACE?

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 11:33 AM
We are so fucked

notorious
02-03-2011, 11:33 AM
Chiefsplanet server is going to be a puddle of melted plastic, silicone, and bullshit after this thread is done with it.

threebag02
02-03-2011, 11:33 AM
JFC

Woodrow Call
02-03-2011, 11:33 AM
http://static.funnyjunk.com/gifs/steve_carell.gif

DeezNutz
02-03-2011, 11:33 AM
This should definitely help Cassel's development.

What a fucking joke.

Bowser
02-03-2011, 11:33 AM
http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/094/126/original/95ccd92fcbcf0e06c1d97c7750d97eef.gif?1295473637

LMAO

The Poz
02-03-2011, 11:33 AM
Gawd, I remember the last time we hired an O-line coach to run the Offense - Solari.

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 11:34 AM
I blame Marc Van Rossen.

leviw
02-03-2011, 11:34 AM
Haley has his "yes" man. Not sure why anyone would be surprised.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 11:34 AM
He'll do the same thing he did in Tampa: coach the OL [poorly] while being the OC [in name only] while the HC calls the plays.

Rudy lost the toss
02-03-2011, 11:34 AM
Well it worked with Solari...

Bowser
02-03-2011, 11:34 AM
Well, if true, I guess this means Haley really did want control of the offense back.

DrRyan
02-03-2011, 11:35 AM
Wow. This is incredibly disappointing news. I guess we should assume that Haley will be the one calling/approving the offensive play calls now.

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 11:35 AM
Haley has his "yes" man. Not sure why anyone would be surprised.

Because we all figured his "Yes" man would at least be some young QB or WR coach. Not some old hack that has done a shit job coaching up our O-line.

suds79
02-03-2011, 11:36 AM
This just in... You're new OC, HC & Play caller, Todd Haley.

What took so long then?

Honestly I don't think just because the O was bad in Todd's first year, doesn't mean he can't run an offense. I think the struggles had more to do with LJ averging 2.3 YPC and bad QB play (now that you could put partly on Todd).

Guess we get to find out this next year.

Discuss Thrower
02-03-2011, 11:36 AM
At least it's not Carthon..?

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 11:36 AM
Haley has his "yes" man. Not sure why anyone would be surprised.

I wouldn't call it surprised as much as disappointed. Todd Haley did a horrible job calling plays in 2009. When combined with his gameday duties, it overwhelmed his ability to make smart game management decisions. I'm not worried about this from a play calling perspective (although Haley's offense does not fit Cassel at all) as much as I am from a game management perspective.

4-8-28. NEVAR FORGET.

chiefsnorth
02-03-2011, 11:36 AM
I was about to throw a huge Internet fit over this, but then I remembered nothing any of us do or say changes anything with the team at all.

Brock
02-03-2011, 11:36 AM
Very unsurprising.

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 11:37 AM
If we don't hit a home run in player personnel this offseason, the cracks that are beginning to form now are going to turn into giant gaping chasms the size of Satan's asshole.

This is the worst assistant coaching hire I can think of in the 18 years I've been following this team. It's worse than GROB, Gunther Redux and Kurt Schottenheimer put together.

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 11:37 AM
Haley has his scapegoat. Not sure why anyone would be surprised.

FYP

Brock
02-03-2011, 11:37 AM
If we don't hit a home run in player personnel this offseason, the cracks that are beginning to form now are going to turn into giant gaping chasms the size of Satan's asshole.

This is the worst assistant coaching hire I can think of in the 18 years I've been following this team. It's worse than GROB, Gunther Redux and Kurt Schottenheimer put together.

It's no worse than Mike Solari. Which was very bad.

Extra Point
02-03-2011, 11:38 AM
I blame Marc Van Rossen.

Wait til he hacks your WIPE account and writes a feel-good story about Muir.

johnny961
02-03-2011, 11:38 AM
We are so ****ed

Exactly. Speculation was Haley wanted a puppet but damn.

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 11:38 AM
It's no worse than Mike Solari. Which was very bad.

This guy is nearly 70 fucking years old.

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 11:38 AM
This just in... You're new OC, HC & Play caller, Todd Haley.


IIRC, people were ok with this IF Haley had a coach putting together the game plan, thus allowing Haley to divide his attention elsewhere and then calling the plays on game day.

Can Muir put together a good game plan? I doubt it. Bill Muir is NOT going to out scheme anyone.

We're fucked. And Cassel will take a step back.

KCUnited
02-03-2011, 11:38 AM
Can someone who follows Flowers on Twitter post his reaction?

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 11:38 AM
At least it's not Carthon..?

Meh. Carthon, Muir, or Roy III would all have about the same input on the offense on gameday. I think this points to a more trouble development, which is Haley's inability to delegate.

Marcellus
02-03-2011, 11:38 AM
If we don't hit a home run in player personnel this offseason, the cracks that are beginning to form now are going to turn into giant gaping chasms the size of Satan's asshole.

This is the worst assistant coaching hire I can think of in the 18 years I've been following this team. It's worse than GROB, Gunther Redux and Kurt Schottenheimer put together.

Hyperbole much?

suds79
02-03-2011, 11:40 AM
Can someone who follows Flowers on Twitter post his reaction?


BFlowers24 Brandon Flowers
“@SeahawkFemme: RT @mortreport: Filed to ESPN. Chiefs to name veteran O-line coach Bill Muir as offensive coordinator.” y'all serious?

DeezNutz
02-03-2011, 11:40 AM
'11 goes tits up, especially from an offensive standpoint, it's entirely possible that Haley signed his own walking papers.

beach tribe
02-03-2011, 11:40 AM
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Iowanian
02-03-2011, 11:41 AM
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 11:41 AM
'11 goes tits up, especially from an offensive standpoint, it's entirely possible that Haley signed his own walking papers.

This. Our offense next year better be in the Top 10 or Haley could have just fucked himself on this one.

Okie_Apparition
02-03-2011, 11:41 AM
So much for all the Egypt coverage on CNN. They expect half those crews to be in front of Arrowhead by noon tomorrow.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 11:41 AM
<del>Silver lining: We were probably headed for a nosedive in '11 with the schedule we had, anyway. Maybe in '12 we'll finally take an honest look at fixing the QB position.</del>

Nevermind. Four OCs in three years. That will be the <del>excuse</del> refrain.

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 11:42 AM
Can someone who follows Flowers on Twitter post his reaction?

I'd rather see Bowe's reaction.

beach tribe
02-03-2011, 11:42 AM
This Cannot be.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 11:42 AM
I don't know whether to laugh, cry or say "I told you so".

While Muir will put together the game plan each week (with serious input from Haley), Haley will likely call the plays on Sunday.

Now, does anyone REALLY believe that Weis didn't leave because of Haley?

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 11:42 AM
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/042009/1239883733_Angry_Video_Game_Nerd.gif

beach tribe
02-03-2011, 11:43 AM
This basically means that Haley is the OC.

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 11:43 AM
This makes Pioli look bad, too.

Your head coach is making galactically moronic decisions. Aren't you his boss? WTF are you doing, bald one?

Brock
02-03-2011, 11:43 AM
This guy is nearly 70 fucking years old.

That's really got nothing to do with nothing.

suds79
02-03-2011, 11:43 AM
This. Our offense next year better be in the Top 10 or Haley could have just ****ed himself on this one.

The man certainly won't be able to walk away thinking "I wish I could have just done it the way I wanted."

He could very well be lining up his own head on the chopping block if this fails.

DMAC
02-03-2011, 11:43 AM
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/042009/1239883733_Angry_Video_Game_Nerd.gif

ROFL

Never ending huh

beach tribe
02-03-2011, 11:43 AM
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Bowser
02-03-2011, 11:43 AM
I don't know whether to laugh, cry or say "I told you so".

While Muir will put together the game plan each week (with serious input from Haley), Haley will likely call the plays on Sunday.

Now, does anyone REALLY believe that Weis didn't leave because of Haley?

Haley really is that big of an ego maniac?

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 11:45 AM
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/042009/1239883733_Angry_Video_Game_Nerd.gif

http://i45.tinypic.com/xnx02f.jpg

beach tribe
02-03-2011, 11:45 AM
Haley really is that big of an ego maniac?

I didn't want to believe it, but....

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 11:45 AM
While Muir will put together the game plan each week

I just hope he doesn't fall asleep in offensive meetings.

To your health, Bill!

http://www.rpromise.com/shopping/site_images/small_photo/65_~ensurvanilla.jpg

Steron
02-03-2011, 11:46 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_c5gWEDWWN1E/TC6V7MUtDqI/AAAAAAAAAaI/shAnsEq8htI/s1600/nuclear-explosion.jpg

Iowanian
02-03-2011, 11:46 AM
The planet reacts to news of the new oc

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/silver_deamon_slayer/GIF/dawalloDoOm.gif

Cave Johnson
02-03-2011, 11:46 AM
Well, f**k.

okiedokieokoye
02-03-2011, 11:46 AM
Am I wrong or doesn't this hire keep Cassel from having to build up his confidence again? He knows the coach, he knows the system. He doesn't have to figure out how to work well with a new coordinator with a different style.

Predarat
02-03-2011, 11:46 AM
Halt the playoff ticket printer right f-ing now!!!!

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 11:46 AM
I don't know whether to laugh, cry or say "I told you so".

While Muir will put together the game plan each week (with serious input from Haley), Haley will likely call the plays on Sunday.

Now, does anyone REALLY believe that Weis didn't leave because of Haley?

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2548/theatermasks.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/i/theatermasks.jpg/)

Laugh now, cry later.

DMAC
02-03-2011, 11:47 AM
I'm leaving forever.

Bane
02-03-2011, 11:47 AM
I guess that means nobody legit was interested in the job eh?
Posted via Mobile Device

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 11:47 AM
Am I wrong or doesn't this hire keep Cassel from having to build up his confidence again?

Cassel is naked in the dark.

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 11:47 AM
Halt the playoff ticket printer right f-ing now!!!!

Send the playoff ticket printer back to the manufacture. We're not going to need it for awhile. Might as well wait for the new model.

Brock
02-03-2011, 11:48 AM
I doubt Haley wanted anyone legit. He had someone legit and ran him off.

Mr. Flopnuts
02-03-2011, 11:48 AM
Wow. Well, glad I went to the playoff game this year. No fucking telling when i'll get a chance to see another one. This is worse than Jimmy fucking Raye.

Baby Lee
02-03-2011, 11:49 AM
I was about to throw a huge Internet fit over this, but then I remembered nothing any of us do or say changes anything with the team at all.

This, plus my metaphysical certainty that this team will never do anything of merit in the playoffs with its current franchise QB.

notorious
02-03-2011, 11:49 AM
http://i54.tinypic.com/2f066jc.png

MOhillbilly
02-03-2011, 11:49 AM
wow. just. wow.

DeezNutz
02-03-2011, 11:49 AM
I doubt Haley wanted anyone legit. He had someone legit and ran him off.

2 someones, even.

Someone get in here and defend Haley. Make a cogent argument to make this disaster seem somewhat rational. And then the rest of us will mock you.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 11:50 AM
Oh

My

God.

I can't believe you fucking Rump Rangergots

Are this worried

About the OC position

Haley has this shit

Covered

Look at what he did in

Arizona.

"Order up"

Fucking

Asshats

Gotta

Go/Hootie.

Bob Dole
02-03-2011, 11:50 AM
Official. http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Bill-Muir-To-Be-Named-Chiefs-Offensive-Coordinator/d114d2ef-b017-47c4-b080-28315f288152

Discuss Thrower
02-03-2011, 11:50 AM
King Carl is cackling and rolling blunts right now /@whitlockjason

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 11:50 AM
Haley really is that big of an ego maniac?

That's what I was told by more than one extremely reliable source.

I think it's all too evident to ignore anymore.

cmh6476
02-03-2011, 11:51 AM
he will only be 69 in october

also he has super bowl experience

and he has additional insight into defensive mindedness being a former D coordinator as well

also im just grasping at straws

:shrug:

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 11:51 AM
Official. http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Bill-Muir-To-Be-Named-Chiefs-Offensive-Coordinator/d114d2ef-b017-47c4-b080-28315f288152

Thanks for taking away any hope i had that Mort was wrong. Asshole.

Stinger
02-03-2011, 11:51 AM
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Royal Fanatic
02-03-2011, 11:51 AM
If we don't hit a home run in player personnel this offseason, the cracks that are beginning to form now are going to turn into giant gaping chasms the size of Satan's asshole.

This is the worst assistant coaching hire I can think of in the 18 years I've been following this team. It's worse than GROB, Gunther Redux and Kurt Schottenheimer put together.
This is not worse than the Greg Robinson hire. Nothing will ever be worse than that.

If he turns the offense into the worst offense in the league, it will be a tie.

Stinger
02-03-2011, 11:52 AM
Official. http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Bill-Muir-To-Be-Named-Chiefs-Offensive-Coordinator/d114d2ef-b017-47c4-b080-28315f288152

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Detoxing
02-03-2011, 11:52 AM
he will only be 69 in october....



also im just grasping at straws

:shrug:

So...you're saying....he might die before the season starts? I like the way you think.....

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 11:52 AM
RIP Chiefs Offense 2010-2011

http://i56.tinypic.com/2qx5lqr.jpg

booyaf2
02-03-2011, 11:53 AM
This years Super Bowl---Packers vs Steelers

Offensive coordinators?

Joe Philbin vs Bruce Arians

Not exactly flashy names in the world of coordinators. We'll be just fine. Cassel will only regress cause he's not playing a cream-puff schedule. Its not like Weis was controlling him with a PS3 controller in 2010

Mr. Flopnuts
02-03-2011, 11:53 AM
Official. http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Bill-Muir-To-Be-Named-Chiefs-Offensive-Coordinator/d114d2ef-b017-47c4-b080-28315f288152

MOTHERFUCK

Reerun_KC
02-03-2011, 11:53 AM
Well this sucks...

Sucks as about as bad as the Shit Claywhit passes off as indepth journalism....

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 11:53 AM
Todd Haley is like a pregnant woman with an addiction to chicory root extract/Dennis Miller.

King_Chief_Fan
02-03-2011, 11:54 AM
It can't be worse than the Solari promotion can it :banghead:

This has to be the end of the end. I predict Haley, Muir and Cassel will be looking for jobs after next season. If not, Pioli should be.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 11:54 AM
He looks like a fucking hunchback in that team photo.

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 11:54 AM
This years Super Bowl---Packers vs Steelers

Offensive coordinators?

Joe Philbin vs Bruce Arians

Not exactly flashy names in the world of coordinators.



You shouldn't post anymore.

doomy3
02-03-2011, 11:55 AM
Yikes.

Royal Fanatic
02-03-2011, 11:55 AM
You guys are ignoring the fact that Haley is a pretty damn good offensive coordinator. Now that he has two years experience as head coach, maybe he CAN do both, since that's obviously what this is about.

johnny961
02-03-2011, 11:55 AM
I don't know whether to laugh, cry or say "I told you so".

While Muir will put together the game plan each week (with serious input from Haley), Haley will likely call the plays on Sunday.

Now, does anyone REALLY believe that Weis didn't leave because of Haley?

This pretty well sums it up. We just went from a guy that could run the entire offense with no input to a guy that will obviously have very little input in the offense at all. Wow.

Baby Lee
02-03-2011, 11:55 AM
This years Super Bowl---Packers vs Steelers

Offensive coordinators?

Joe Philbin vs Bruce Arians

Not exactly flashy names in the world of coordinators. We'll be just fine. Cassel will only regress cause he's not playing a cream-puff schedule. Its not like Weis was controlling him with a PS3 controller in 2010

QBs

Aaron Rogers and Rapelessburger

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 11:55 AM
He looks like a fucking hunchback in that team photo.

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/wC/roger-ebert-jaw-cancer-photo-esquire-0310-lg.jpg

Sofa King
02-03-2011, 11:56 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/67036_o.gif

dtebbe
02-03-2011, 11:56 AM
Muir's new theme song:

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Mr. Flopnuts
02-03-2011, 11:56 AM
I've always liked Haley. If this team smacks of anything close to 09, his fucking ass needs to go. What. In. The. Fuck? I'm really wondering if they just literally couldn't get anyone to take the job.

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 11:56 AM
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/wC/roger-ebert-jaw-cancer-photo-esquire-0310-lg.jpg

Stop it. That's creepy.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 11:56 AM
I've been hinting since before Weis was fired that this was going to happen, yet most people chose to ignore not only the hints, but the signs.

Haley couldn't work with Chan Gailey, nor could he work with Charlie Weis. As I stated earlier, I got a text from an extremely reliable source on December 30th stating that Weis was leaving for the U of F. Pioli wouldn't let him out of his contract to coach for another team, so his only recourse was to go back to the college ranks. He could not work with Haley, who called as many as 15 plays per game and usurped his authority on many occasions.

Personally, I think this move is a disaster for the Chiefs offense but hopefully, I'm wrong.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-03-2011, 11:57 AM
It’s Todd Haley’s offense in Kansas City now
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 3, 2011, 12:51 PM EST
While Kermit didn’t get the gig, the Chiefs found an offensive coordinator that is used to a strong-minded offensive head coach.

Kansas City promoted veteran offensive line coach Bill Muir to offensive coordinator on Thursday. Chris Mortensen had the report first. Muir was in Tampa as a coordinator during Jon Gruden’s run calling plays for the Bucs.

Coach Todd Haley will likely take over the play-calling duties in Kansas City. Muir won’t come to the Chiefs with the same strong offensive voice creating a system like Chan Gailey and Charlie Weis did over the last two years.

The Chiefs made it clear that Muir won’t even give up offensive line duties. So the Chiefs essentially just decided to subtract Weis from the offensive staff rather than make any big chances.

This is Haley’s offense now, sink or swim.

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 11:57 AM
Stop it. That's creepy.

http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/ar/659/372/2010/04/08/40998_0408billmuir.jpg

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 11:57 AM
Filed to ESPN. Chiefs to name veteran O-line coach Bill Muir as offensive coordinator.

https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/33214694516858880



https://twitter.com/kentbabb/status/33220231967145984



https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/33219730940633089

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Brock
02-03-2011, 11:58 AM
You guys are ignoring the fact that Haley is a pretty damn good offensive coordinator. Now that he has two years experience as head coach, maybe he CAN do both, since that's obviously what this is about.

There isn't a whole lot of evidence that Haley is a pretty damn good offensive coordinator.

DeezNutz
02-03-2011, 11:58 AM
You guys are ignoring the fact that Haley is a pretty damn good offensive coordinator.

I agree that he might be.

So let's look for a HC, now that we have the OC locked up.

Discuss Thrower
02-03-2011, 11:59 AM
You guys are ignoring the fact that Haley is a pretty damn good offensive coordinator. Now that he has two years experience as head coach, maybe he CAN do both, since that's obviously what this is about.

I'll probably get flamed for this but whatever, it's worth repeating: Haley was OC of an offense that had Warner at QB and Fitzgerald, Boldin and Breaston at WR, and serving under an offensive minded HC. Whether or not he's a bonafide OC in his own right is pretty debatable.

suds79
02-03-2011, 11:59 AM
Not exactly flashy names in the world of coordinators. We'll be just fine. Cassel will only regress cause he's not playing a cream-puff schedule. Its not like Weis was controlling him with a PS3 controller in 2010

Oh sh!t. Just thought about the Cassel factor. I personally don't think he'll ever be much more than a top 15 QB. I think he can be good but not great. And it takes great to win a SB. But if he regresses, and I would have predicted this if nothing changed next year, now there will be people who can blame it on Haley instead of realizing Cassel just isn't that good thus buying him more time in KC. :banghead:

Royal Fanatic
02-03-2011, 11:59 AM
There isn't a whole lot of evidence that Haley is a pretty damn good offensive coordinator.
Fair enough. Maybe Kurt Warner carried him in Arizona.

I just keep telling myself that everything will be OK. Everything will be OK. :(

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 11:59 AM
"Muir Set on Taking Offense to New Heights in '11"

by Josh Looney

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_mQiOXnshqeU/SvAA9Ql-YiI/AAAAAAAAAMA/wA5HZJ2u_Bo/MomFail.gif

gblowfish
02-03-2011, 12:00 PM
Looks like we're going for it on fourth and one...

Bowser
02-03-2011, 12:00 PM
Looks like we're going for it on fourth and one...

....from our own 22.

cmh6476
02-03-2011, 12:01 PM
all of you saying we need a game manager, lets not forget we have assistant head coach maurice carthon. come on, between the three of carthon, haley and muir we should be able to handle game managing and play-calling, right?

also just more straw grasping

:shrug:

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 12:01 PM
....from our own 22.

http://mooviemart.ie/Catalogue/Image_Files/FromHell.jpg

Easy 6
02-03-2011, 12:03 PM
Gawd, I remember the last time we hired an O-line coach to run the Offense - Solari.

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 12:06 PM
"Bill Muir is a touchdown"--Scott Pioli

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_mQiOXnshqeU/SvACHZBHSYI/AAAAAAAAAMk/jWQK5rPJrB0/Footballdoublefail.gif

Baby Lee
02-03-2011, 12:06 PM
I propose mass leg shaving in protest!!

FringeNC
02-03-2011, 12:06 PM
What difference does it make? Muir is OC in name only. Haley was hired supposedly for his offensive acumen -- he should be OC. I'm guessing Sean Payton's OC has about the same role Bill Muir will.

If the offenses regresses, it'll all be on Haley. He doesn't care. He just wants to win at all costs.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-03-2011, 12:07 PM
Haley was one of the best OC in the game ....Once haley left the cards in 09 with the same players haley had there OFFensive went for 4 overall under haley to 14 and scored 54 less points. DONT JUDGE HALEY AS OC IN 09 lack of players and new system put into place it takes 2 years to get the system into place

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 12:07 PM
What difference does it make? Muir is OC in name only. Haley was hired supposedly for his offensive acumen -- he should be OC. I'm guessing Sean Payton's OC has about the same role Bill Muir will.

If the offenses regresses, it'll all be on Haley. He doesn't care. He just wants to win at all costs.

Save for the cost of handing over the offense to a proven coordinator.

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 12:07 PM
I propose mass leg shaving in protest!!

I just picked three scabs from a dog bite on my left arm.

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 12:08 PM
Haley was one of the best OC in the game ....Once haley left the cards in 09 with the same players haley had there OFFensive went for 4 overall under haley to 14 and scored 54 less points. DONT JUDGE HALEY AS OC IN 09 lack of players and new system put into place it takes 2 years to get the system into place

Fucking Christ man. Try using punctuation.

Rausch
02-03-2011, 12:08 PM
Opting to promote from within, the Chiefs will name offensive line coach Bill Muir as Kansas City’s offensive coordinator later today.

FAIL.

Horrible, top down stupid, insane FAIL...

Woodrow Call
02-03-2011, 12:10 PM
"Bill Muir is a touchdown"--Scott Pioli

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_mQiOXnshqeU/SvACHZBHSYI/AAAAAAAAAMk/jWQK5rPJrB0/Footballdoublefail.gif

LMAO

Predarat
02-03-2011, 12:11 PM
Bill Muir eats at Chick Fil A!

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 12:11 PM
Haley was one of the best OC in the game ....Once haley left the cards in 09 with the same players haley had there OFFensive went for 4 overall under haley to 14 and scored 54 less points. DONT JUDGE HALEY AS OC IN 09 lack of players and new system put into place it takes 2 years to get the system into place

It's evident that you are functionally retarded.

Mr. Flopnuts
02-03-2011, 12:11 PM
Gather 'round and let me tell yuns a story that begins in 1965 at Susquehanna.......

KCUnited
02-03-2011, 12:11 PM
We've gone from Wies' "Erhardt-Perkins" to Bill Muirs' "Dying Breed" offense.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-03-2011, 12:12 PM
****ing Christ man. Try using punctuation.

lol i just saw your real life picture lol short dork .No wounder you so mad

Mr. Flopnuts
02-03-2011, 12:12 PM
Haley was one of the best OC in the game ....Once haley left the cards in 09 with the same players haley had there OFFensive went for 4 overall under haley to 14 and scored 54 less points. DONT JUDGE HALEY AS OC IN 09 lack of players and new system put into place it takes 2 years to get the system into place

The ultimo homer.

Brock
02-03-2011, 12:13 PM
lol i just saw your real life picture lol short dork .No wounder you so mad

You are the Chiefs version of knowmo.

FringeNC
02-03-2011, 12:13 PM
Save for the cost of handing over the offense to a proven coordinator.

Either Haley is a top-notch offensive mind like Martz or Payton, or he's not. I think it's better that we find out sooner, rather than later. Haley just bet his head coaching career that he was. Now it's clear who we can blame if there is failure.

Mr. Flopnuts
02-03-2011, 12:14 PM
We've gone from Wies' "Erhardt-Perkins" to Bill Muirs' "Dying Breed" offense.

I thought it was the sodomized by a 400lb man offense.

KCUnited
02-03-2011, 12:15 PM
I thought it was the sodomized by a 400 year old man offense.

FYP.

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 12:15 PM
lol i just saw your real life picture lol short dork .No wounder you so mad

That's the best you can come up with?

Go sign up for an English class, you fucking moron.

warpaint*
02-03-2011, 12:16 PM
The clock is ticking now. The offense improved this year with a proven OC. Offensive regression next season in light of the promotion of a puppet into that role will put Haley in the crosshairs I would think.

The Bad Guy
02-03-2011, 12:16 PM
Sick. to. my. stomach.

ElGringo
02-03-2011, 12:18 PM
I have always liked Haley as a head coach. That being said, year 3 of his contract, I do believe sink or swim time. Everyone knows Muir will be a puppet in the overall scheme of things, and if the offense regresses and fails, Haley should be fired (or demoted to OC) and the search begins anew.

Dylan
02-03-2011, 12:18 PM
This guy is nearly 70 ****ing years old.

LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-03-2011, 12:18 PM
I thought it was the sodomized by a 400lb man offense.

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/1045398/alberto-del-o.gif

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 12:18 PM
Time for a new avatar.

Dylan
02-03-2011, 12:18 PM
That's the best you can come up with?

Go sign up for an English class, you ****ing moron.

LMAO

Gawd, I love this place

OnTheWarpath58
02-03-2011, 12:18 PM
Welp, I guess if you're looking for a puppet, you might as well promote the weakest coach on staff.

Damn.

warpaint*
02-03-2011, 12:19 PM
Either Haley is a top-notch offensive mind like Martz or Payton, or he's not. I think it's better that we find out sooner, rather than later. Haley just bet his head coaching career that he was. Now it's clear who we can blame if there is failure.

You're right about who to blame if the offense retards next season but I disagree with the sentiment that it's better to find out now. This season they found a formula that worked and punted it. I hope it wasn't a regrettable move but fear it was.

Bowser
02-03-2011, 12:20 PM
What's the over/under on how many coaches they asked to take the job and were told no?

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 12:20 PM
Just imagine, at the end of year three we could have undeniable proof that Scott Pioli:

1. Can't draft.

2. Can't pick a QB.

3. Can't pick a HC.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-03-2011, 12:20 PM
That's the best you can come up with?

Go sign up for an English class, you ****ing moron.

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SHORT MAN COMPLEX

Fish
02-03-2011, 12:20 PM
Hooray.... Bill Solari....

FML...

Frankie
02-03-2011, 12:20 PM
In addition to serving his new role as offensive coordinator, Muir will maintain responsibilities as the Chiefs offensive line coach, working with assistant offensive line coach Pat Perles on the continued development of the group.

That's the part that bothers me the most. If Muir was gonna be the OC why didn't we make a play for Cable for O-line coach?

Also, who is supposed to duplicate and continue Weis's development of Cassel?!

Next year, with a much tougher schedule and no viable OC I'm afraid we might see a dramatic Cassel descent and a poorer record. Hope I'm wrong.

Epic Fail 007
02-03-2011, 12:20 PM
damn everyones so negative.......be a fan and be supportive not whining bitches

The Poz
02-03-2011, 12:21 PM
On a similar note,
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6086565
"The Chiefs still are considering quarterback coach candidates and may be one to two weeks away from making a final decision.
One of the candidates is Chris Palmer, a former NFL head coach and assistant who currently is head coach of the Hartford Colonials of the United Football League."

Fish
02-03-2011, 12:22 PM
We did....

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/482/donegoofed.jpg

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 12:22 PM
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SHORT MAN COMPLEX

I'm 6 foot tall.........genius.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 12:22 PM
What's the over/under on how many coaches they asked to take the job and were told no?

Zero.

To my knowledge, Haley never considered looking outside of his staff.

Take it for what it's worth.

Discuss Thrower
02-03-2011, 12:22 PM
damn everyones so negative.......be a fan and be supportive not whining bitches

Obviously you're not from around here.

King_Chief_Fan
02-03-2011, 12:23 PM
damn everyones so negative.......be a fan and be supportive not whining bitches

hang in there son, you will see how it works around here soon enough

SNR
02-03-2011, 12:23 PM
Get out of me

gblowfish
02-03-2011, 12:24 PM
damn everyones so negative.......be a fan and be supportive not whining bitches

Hey nOOb, hanging around here is like joining the Optimist Club and screaming out in every meeting "THAT'LL NEVER WORK!!!"

Get used to it.

Brock
02-03-2011, 12:25 PM
Hey nOOb, hanging around here is like joining the Optimist Club and screaming out in every meeting "THAT'LL NEVER WORK!!!"

Get used to it.

We tried that once before!

Well, actually, we did.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-03-2011, 12:25 PM
JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
The Kansas City Chiefs named Bill Muir offensive coordinator/offensive line coach on Thursday. Promoted him from within

ChiefsandOsFan @
@JasonLaCanfora just a name its really haleys o

JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora @
@ChiefsandOsFan exactly

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 12:25 PM
On a similar note,
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6086565
"The Chiefs still are considering quarterback coach candidates and may be one to two weeks away from making a final decision.
One of the candidates is Chris Palmer, a former NFL head coach and assistant who currently is head coach of the Hartford Colonials of the United Football League."

I'll be surprised if Nick Sirianni isn't the QB coach in 2011.

Shogun
02-03-2011, 12:25 PM
Jamaal might get more carries?

Baby Lee
02-03-2011, 12:26 PM
I'm afraid we might see a dramatic Cassel descent
Got the circus music cued up.

Can envision Cassel throwing darts to KC Wolf, the beer vendor, cheerleader #7, anyone but a WR.

Bowser
02-03-2011, 12:26 PM
Zero.

To my knowledge, Haley never considered looking outside of his staff.

Take it for what it's worth.

I'll definitely take your word for it, but what the hell took so long to come to a conclusion? Did they pull a Carl Peterson and vacation to Europe?

Gah, this blows.

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 12:26 PM
I hope Muir doesn't stand on the table for a player in the war room this April, they might need to call the paramedics.

Bowser
02-03-2011, 12:27 PM
Jamaal might get more carries?

I like you, Shogun. You're a glass-is-half-full kind of guy.

beach tribe
02-03-2011, 12:27 PM
damn everyones so negative.......be a fan and be supportive not whining bitches

You're a MUCH bigger fan than any of us.


Wake up. This COULD work out, but anyone who thinks that this was a god idea is an idiot. Haley has too much responsibility on him now. People can point to Sean Peyton, and I would say OK, but Brees is another guy who does a lot of the OCing on the field.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-03-2011, 12:27 PM
I hope Muir doesn't stand on the table for a player in the war room this April, they might need to call the paramedics.

You do know crennel is 64

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 12:27 PM
On a similar note,
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6086565
"The Chiefs still are considering quarterback coach candidates and may be one to two weeks away from making a final decision.
One of the candidates is Chris Palmer, a former NFL head coach and assistant who currently is head coach of the Hartford Colonials of the United Football League."

I thought we had a QB coach already? TWO QB coaches wouldn't be a bad idea.

SNR
02-03-2011, 12:28 PM
I'll be surprised if Nick Sirianni isn't the QB coach in 2011.This was the guy I wanted from the beginning. Damn it all if he's young and inexperienced. At least he'd be learning on the job and getting progressively better and better.

This Muir hire is the worst. Even if it is Haley's offense.

Mr. Flopnuts
02-03-2011, 12:28 PM
LMAO That avatar is hilarious, Clay.

The God Hypothesis
02-03-2011, 12:28 PM
Well this sucks...

Sucks as about as bad as the Shit Claywhit passes off as indepth journalism....

ROFLROFLROFL

Not the flashiest of names, and it does make it obvious people don't want to work with/under Haley, but I think his track record in Tampa is at least better than anything Jimmy Raye can conjure up.

**** it.

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 12:29 PM
You do know crennel is 64

And the dude is on his last legs as an NFL coach.

Shogun
02-03-2011, 12:29 PM
I like you, Shogun. You're a glass-is-half-full kind of guy.

I just hope the old farts colostomy bag doesnt explode mid game.

FAX
02-03-2011, 12:30 PM
Placeholder.

FAX

reschief
02-03-2011, 12:30 PM
That's the part that bothers me the most. If Muir was gonna be the OC why didn't we make a play for Cable for O-line coach?

Also, who is supposed to duplicate and continue Weis's development of Cassel?!

Next year, with a much tougher schedule and no viable OC I'm afraid we might see a dramatic Cassel descent and a poorer record. Hope I'm wrong.

Weis: "My first job is to fix the quarterback."

Muir: "My first job is to forward the call made by Haley to the quarterback - hey, it's not an easy job!"

Brock
02-03-2011, 12:30 PM
This was the guy I wanted from the beginning. Damn it all if he's young and inexperienced. At least he'd be learning on the job and getting progressively better and better.

This Muir hire is the worst. Even if it is Haley's offense.

It doesn't make any difference which puppet is having his strings pulled.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 12:31 PM
People can point to Sean Peyton, and I would say OK, but Brees is another guy who does a lot of the OCing on the field.

Sean Payton spent years as a QB coach and offensive coordinator before he was hired by New Orleans. He had a long track record of success, which included the ability to work easily with others.

Haley spent one year as an OC and playcaller before he was hired.

One.

And his reputation for being easy to work with wasn't included on his resume.

FringeNC
02-03-2011, 12:31 PM
You're right about who to blame if the offense retards next season but I disagree with the sentiment that it's better to find out now. This season they found a formula that worked and punted it. I hope it wasn't a regrettable move but fear it was.

We need to know if the reason Haley has a hard time working with OCs is the fact that he is dick, or is it the fact that maybe, just maybe, he is smarter than they are. Haley feuding with an OC is not a good situation. Haley wants to be the boss, and either he will succeed, or be replaced.

By the way, our situation of having a figurehead OC is hardly unique in the NFL. Get a grip.

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 12:31 PM
In three years Bill Muir and Dick Curl will be brothers from another mother around here.

Take it to the bank.

DeezNutz
02-03-2011, 12:32 PM
Placeholder.

FAX

Agreed.

Whom do you believe will be the next HC?

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 12:32 PM
Agreed.

Whom do you believe will be the next HC?

My money's on Charlie Weis

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 12:33 PM
The biggest problem with this hire is that it does NOTHING to improve the Chiefs and actually gives them an opportunity to get worse. A likely opportunity. How the fuck can anyone, the players, other coaches, fans...anyone... see this as a positive?

Otter
02-03-2011, 12:33 PM
Why in the hell did they bring in Charlie Weis if they knew he would only be here a year?

I have no idea what to say about this.

Brock
02-03-2011, 12:33 PM
My money's on Charlie Weis

For real?

HotRoute
02-03-2011, 12:33 PM
Always had a feeling the new OC would come from within

Shogun
02-03-2011, 12:33 PM
Hello Mr Dane Mccloud, Im calling to inquire about the space in your signature for rent? How much

Rausch
02-03-2011, 12:34 PM
What difference does it make? Muir is OC in name only. Haley was hired supposedly for his offensive acumen -- he should be OC.

No, he should be the head fucking coach.

Being offensive minded and heavy handed in that area is Ok.

DV was the same way.

But this "I refuse to work with an OC" bull$#it is tired and stubborn...

Mr_Tomahawk
02-03-2011, 12:34 PM
Both haley and cassel will be gone after next season.

sent from my pony-xpress

Detoxing
02-03-2011, 12:34 PM
Sean Payton spent years as a QB coach and offensive coordinator before he was hired by New Orleans. He had a long track record of success, which included the ability to work easily with others.

Haley spent one year as an OC and playcaller before he was hired.

One.

And his reputation for being easy to work with wasn't included on his resume.

To be fair, he was Dallas' "passing game coordinator".

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 12:34 PM
Why in the hell did they bring in Charlie Weis if they knew he would only be here a year?


Because they have been promoted beyond the level of their competence.

DeezNutz
02-03-2011, 12:35 PM
My money's on Charlie Weis

Imagine the media circus with that...

The Gunther return would look McCluster size in comparison.

KCUnited
02-03-2011, 12:35 PM
"Gadamit! I said toss me some Tums, not toss sweep to Jones!!"

warpaint*
02-03-2011, 12:43 PM
We need to know if the reason Haley has a hard time working with OCs is the fact that he is dick, or is it the fact that maybe, just maybe, he is smarter than they are. Haley feuding with an OC is not a good situation. Haley wants to be the boss, and either he will succeed, or be replaced.

By the way, our situation of having a figurehead OC is hardly unique in the NFL. Get a grip.

Who said it was unique? There are many ways to skin a cat, I never intimated otherwise so I am confused by that comment.

I just don't like the fact they dumped something that bore fruit for something that might or might not. Hopefully it does work obviously.

Brock
02-03-2011, 12:45 PM
We need to know if the reason Haley has a hard time working with OCs is the fact that he is dick, or is it the fact that maybe, just maybe, he is smarter than they are. Haley feuding with an OC is not a good situation. Haley wants to be the boss, and either he will succeed, or be replaced.

By the way, our situation of having a figurehead OC is hardly unique in the NFL. Get a grip.

Haley's smarter than Charlie Weis? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

OnTheWarpath58
02-03-2011, 12:46 PM
The biggest problem with this hire is that it does NOTHING to improve the Chiefs and actually gives them an opportunity to get worse. A likely opportunity. How the fuck can anyone, the players, other coaches, fans...anyone... see this as a positive?


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DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 12:46 PM
To be fair, he was Dallas' "passing game coordinator".

He was also the QB coach and OC under Fassel and called plays for the Giants.

DeezNutz
02-03-2011, 12:48 PM
Todd Haley will be live on 810 around 1:30 PM.

Reerun_KC
02-03-2011, 12:50 PM
He was also the QB coach and OC under Fassel and called plays for the Giants.

should we go ahead and forfeit now? or play the 2011 season if there is one?

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 12:52 PM
Todd Haley will be live on 810 around 1:30 PM.

That should be interesting. :rolleyes:

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 12:52 PM
Todd Haley will be live on 810 around 1:30 PM.

What? Why not interview the new OC?

Chiefs Pantalones
02-03-2011, 12:52 PM
This is really an obvious hire. Haley wants someone he can bully over and give more than just a hand into the gameplan without the OC having any ground to stand on. That's just Haley's personality. I'm ok with it for now, because there are successful coaches doing this. But this could be (I hope it isn't because that would mean we would be sucking again) Haley's first class ticket out of KC. It's a risky hire for Haley. His job is dependent on this hire. You don't have very long or very many assistant coaches to work through before you are fired in the NFL.

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 12:52 PM
What? Why not interview the new OC?

They are.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-03-2011, 12:53 PM
What? Why not interview the new OC?

Because Haley IS the new OC.

Rooster
02-03-2011, 12:53 PM
What? Why not interview the new OC?

It's his nap time.

Reerun_KC
02-03-2011, 12:54 PM
What? Why not interview the new OC?

Wow, your really this dense?

OnTheWarpath58
02-03-2011, 12:54 PM
It's his nap time.

LMAO

Reerun_KC
02-03-2011, 12:55 PM
It's his nap time.

First Dick Curl, Now Bill Muir....



What next? Grandpa Jones from Hee Haw?

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 12:55 PM
This is the kind of shit we've been laughing at the Raiders over for five years now.

JFC.

gblowfish
02-03-2011, 12:57 PM
None of this matters. Season will probably be cancelled due to the lockout.

Deberg_1990
02-03-2011, 12:58 PM
Good hire....Glad its over with.

The Bad Guy
02-03-2011, 12:58 PM
Yeah, this is now officially a problem.

Dayze
02-03-2011, 12:58 PM
it's a damn good thing we have a pro bowl QB. ~

The Bad Guy
02-03-2011, 12:59 PM
This is the kind of shit we've been laughing at the Raiders over for five years now.

JFC.

The situation sucks, but what blows more is reading your reactions.

Get freaking real. We are laughing at the Raiders because of Al's decisions. This is nothing, absolutely nothing like the crazy bs that Al Davis has done.

Count Alex's Losses
02-03-2011, 12:59 PM
Good hire....Glad its over with.

Are you shitting me?

Brock
02-03-2011, 01:00 PM
Good hire....Glad its over with.

LOL

RedThat
02-03-2011, 01:00 PM
The biggest problem with this hire is that it does NOTHING to improve the Chiefs and actually gives them an opportunity to get worse. A likely opportunity. How the **** can anyone, the players, other coaches, fans...anyone... see this as a positive?

This is clearly a puppet move.

That's the way Im interpreting it. This kind of move should imply to anyone that Haley wants more leverage and control in his offense. Besides, at the end of the day, no matter who calls the plays, the head coach always has the final say and approves whether the team should proceed with the call or not. Im thinking that how this whole thing works?

*Also, we don't have the players to run an effective offense anyway? Lets fact it, half of the OL needs to be rebuilt, the Chiefs need another WR, QB position is questionable at this point. Aside from Moeki, Bowe, Charles, I really don't see any "real" glaring positives in this offense. I can't seem to grasp the overreaction in this thread when its clear the offense still has quite a ways to go.

shitgoose
02-03-2011, 01:00 PM
Does this mean we get a new OL coach?

OnTheWarpath58
02-03-2011, 01:01 PM
Good hire....Glad its over with.

http://i51.tinypic.com/24epe1y.gif

FringeNC
02-03-2011, 01:02 PM
Haley's smarter than Charlie Weis? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

He's either going to be better than Weis......or he's not. If he's not, why keep him around? If he's not a very good offensive mind, what exactly does he bring to the table? This guy believes he's an offensive stud and is willing to be his coaching career on it. Why is this a bad thing? If he fails, he'll be gone. Isn't this better than having an OC with questionable authority? (We know Muir has no real authority.)

boogblaster
02-03-2011, 01:03 PM
to da sub .......

siberian khatru
02-03-2011, 01:04 PM
Fine. Whatever. Just so long as Haley's ass is on the line for this. If it works, great. If not ... we know who should be held accountable.

I really hope Pioli has made that clear to him.

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 01:05 PM
Does this mean we get a new OL coach?

No. He'll be OC and still remain the O-line coach.

cmh6476
02-03-2011, 01:06 PM
I want to go on record now and say you nay-sayers are all wrong.

People criticizing Pioli for not being able to draft or find a HC or whatever are all wrong. Pioli will have a long, distinguished career in KC and win at least one Championship.

Todd Haley is the coach of this team, and will be the coach of this team for as long as he wants to be the coach of this team. I'm talking Don Shula tenure, and will win on a consistent basis and get things on the right track here which all of you will eventually begin to appreciate.

The OC issue isn't a big deal. It's guys that know Parcells way, and they will find a competent mix of play-calling and offense management between Haley, Muir and Carthon, and probably a QB coach they bring in.

We are doing things the right way now, and already in year two many of you already seem to want to give up on this team. This was a magical year this year, and it is easy to see the continued progression that should continue in '11 barring a lockout which should be avoided.

You negative nancies need to let it go. I'll be happy to say I told you so in just a few short years when you all realize it's time to eat some crow. F8cking doubters.

:|

GoChiefsTinyPenis
02-03-2011, 01:06 PM
So the Raiders get Al Saunders, and the Chiefs get Al Bundy's grandpa?

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 01:07 PM
He's either going to be better than Weis......or he's not. If he's not, why keep him around? If he's not a very good offensive mind, what exactly does he bring to the table? This guy believes he's an offensive stud and is willing to be his coaching career on it. Why is this a bad thing? If he fails, he'll be gone. Isn't this better than having an OC with questionable authority? (We know Muir has no real authority.)

Even if our offense fails next year.......it will more than likely cost Cassel his job and not Haley. Haley will blame it on not having a QB.

Micjones
02-03-2011, 01:07 PM
Haley is a qualified candidate for Offensive Coordinator.
Too bad, he was hired to be this football team's Head Coach.

With SEVERAL qualified OC candidates available... This proves that Haley's an egomaniac who is incapable of delegating and impossible to get along with.

He just went "all in" that he can do the job as well as or better than Weis.
We're about to find out. If you field a middling offense and we only manage to win 7 games...you're as good as gone.

I can't believe Pioli LET him make such a bad decision.

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 01:08 PM
they will find a competent mix of play-calling and offense management between Haley, Muir and Carthon,

:deevee:

BossChief
02-03-2011, 01:09 PM
Not too thrilled, this was a missed chance at an upgrade

Frankie
02-03-2011, 01:09 PM
This was the guy I wanted from the beginning. Damn it all if he's young and inexperienced. At least he'd be learning on the job and getting progressively better and better.

This Muir hire is the worst. Even if it is Haley's offense.

Muir is old isn't he? I think this is a probably a stop-gap hire for a couple of years while Siriani is being groomed for the OC job and getting some coaching experience. If all goes according to this scenario maybe Muir will retire in a few years and be replaced by Siriani.

Just a speculation on my part, but how plausible do you guys think it could be?

johnny961
02-03-2011, 01:10 PM
Fine. Whatever. Just so long as Haley's ass is on the line for this. If it works, great. If not ... we know who should be held accountable.

I really hope Pioli has made that clear to him.

Agreed. Somebody needs to be held accountable if this bullshit doesn't pan out, namely Haley.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-03-2011, 01:10 PM
Jon Gruden
Sean Payton
Mike McCarthy
Mike Shannhan
Raheem Morris


Are they control freaks? all of them call there own plays

notorious
02-03-2011, 01:11 PM
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Frankie
02-03-2011, 01:11 PM
Placeholder.

FAX

That's what I just said, Mr. FAX. But you, sir, in your infinite wisdom, were way ahead of me.

BigCatDaddy
02-03-2011, 01:11 PM
Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren and John Gruden amongst others did a pretty good job calling plays and beign the HC. I'm not too worried here.

chuxtrux
02-03-2011, 01:12 PM
I would rather have a Haley/Muir combo that is on the same page than Haley and Weiss fighting every week and screwing up the consistency. T I know everybody is going to go crazy over this statement but Muir is actually a pretty good o-line coach and is well respected around the league. The last couple of weeks of the season when they were terrible imo was mainly due to injuries to the tackles more than coaching. I could go into this further, but the bottom line is I am not really that worried about Muir taking over the oc title. The BIGGEST thing I think they need to is hire a superb qb coach. In terms of actual game planning, I don't think Weiss was that great, but his biggest value was being able to work with Cassel. Weiss really is one of the great qb coaches out there. I doubt they will be able to get a guy with Charlie's credentials so hopefully Cassel took good notes this year.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 01:12 PM
I can't believe Pioli LET him make such a bad decision.

It starts and ends with ownership.

When Todd Haley went to Pioli and Hunt in 2009 to hire Clancy Pendergast, Clark Hunt should have said "Fuck off and find someone else".

In 2011, when Todd Haley goes to Scott Pioli and Clark Hunt and states "I'm hiring Bill Muir to be the offensive coordinator", Hunt should have said "Fuck off and find someone far more qualified".

Regardless, if Haley fails, he should be shown the door at the end of the 2011 season. If he succeeds, he'll be worthy of all of the adulation and kudos he receives.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-03-2011, 01:15 PM
http://i56.tinypic.com/a4wwp1.png

That was great

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 01:15 PM
I know everybody is going to go crazy over this statement but Muir is actually a pretty good o-line coach and is well respected around the league.

Then how do you explain Brendan Albert's obvious regression once Muir was hired? How do you explain not only the shit offensive line in 2009, but the decision to start Mike fucking Goff over Wade Smith?

Bill Muir sucks ass as an offensive line coach and only has a job through the "Good Ol' Boy" network.

Fuck him.

dirk digler
02-03-2011, 01:16 PM
JFC. I think it is obvious now no one wanted to work for Haley. What a disappointment to say the least.

OnTheWarpath58
02-03-2011, 01:16 PM
It starts and ends with ownership.

When Todd Haley went to Pioli and Hunt in 2009 to hire Clancy Pendergast, Clark Hunt should have said "Fuck off and find someone else".

In 2011, when Todd Haley goes to Scott Pioli and Clark Hunt and states "I'm hiring Bill Muir to be the offensive coordinator", Hunt should have said "Fuck off and find someone far more qualified".

Regardless, if Haley fails, he should be shown the door at the end of the 2011 season. If he succeeds, he'll be worthy of all of the adulation and kudos he receives.

Like that would ever happen.

Clark refuses to get involved.

He's been saying since before he hired Pioli that his biggest priority was drafting and developing our own franchise QB.

What happened a month or so later?

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 01:16 PM
That was great

Where's Tom Clements, Douchelord?

LMAO

chiefsnorth
02-03-2011, 01:17 PM
Maybe they feel the season is a longshot because of the labor agreement and so they are just going to more or less leave the job vacant for now.

Dicky McElephant
02-03-2011, 01:17 PM
So this means we're taking an OT in the 1st round then......

Fuck.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2011, 01:17 PM
Like that would ever happen.

Clark refuses to get involved.

He's been saying since before he hired Pioli that his biggest priority was drafting and developing our own franchise QB.

What happens a month or so later?

Trust me, I know. Did you get my PM from last week? That pretty much says it all...