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02-25-2011, 11:42 AM

For the second time in as many days, Egyptian armed force stormed the 5th century old St. Bishoy monastery in Wadi el-Natroun, 110 kilometers from Cairo. Live ammunition was fired, wounding two monks and six Coptic monastery workers. Several sources confirmed the army’s use of RPG ammunition. Four people have been arrested including three monks and a Coptic lawyer who was at the monastery investigating yesterday’s army attack.

Monk Aksios Ava Bishoy told activist Nader Shoukry of Freecopts the armed forces stormed the main entrance gate to the monastery in the morning using five tanks, armored vehicles and a bulldozer to demolish the fence built by the monastery last month to protect themselves and the monastery from the lawlessness which prevailed in Egypt during the January 25 Uprising.

“When we tried to address them, the army fired live bullets, wounding Father Feltaows in the leg and Father Barnabas in the abdomen,” said Monk Ava Bishoy. “Six Coptic workers in the monastery were also injured, some with serious injuries to the chest.”

And from AP:

CAIRO (AP) — The deputy to Osama bin Laden issued al-Qaida’s second message since the Egyptian uprising, accusing the nation’s Christian leadership of inciting interfaith tensions and denying that the terror network was behind last month’s bombing of a Coptic church in Alexandria that killed 21 and sparked protests.

The message Friday from Ayman al-Zawahri, the No. 2 leader of the terror network, comes amid renewed Muslim-Christian tension over the slaying of a Coptic priest and a dispute involving a monastery.

As with his first message, delivered Feb. 18, al-Zawahri in his new, 35-minute videotape makes no mention of the protests or Hosni Mubarak’s fall from power. Al-Qaida had advocated for the destruction of Mubarak’s regime — and al-Zawahri, an Egyptian doctor, was part of a failed militant uprising against the former president in the 1990s.

But the pro-democracy tone of the protests, led by secular liberals, contrasted greatly with the Islamic state al-Qaida envisions.

In the latest video, al-Zawahri devoted much of the time to the Muslim-Christian divide. But he denied that his group was behind the Alexandria bombing, according to a transcript by the SITE Intel group, a U.S. group that monitors militant messages.

Ahead of the bombing, extremist Islamic websites affiliated with al-Qaida circulated lists of Coptic churches in Egypt and Europe — including one that was hit on New Year’s — along with instructions on how to attack them.

“To start, I want to explain that al-Qaida has no connection with the explosion that happened in the church in Alexandria,” he said.

“The first among those who are responsible for setting the situation ablaze is the leadership of the Coptic Orthodox Church under the leadership of the one called Pope Shenouda III,” he said.

He blamed the church leader for spreading “belief that the Muslims have occupied Egypt and they must be driven out as they were kicked out of Spain” in the 15th century.

The injured were rushed to the nearby Sadat Hospital, the ones in serious condition were transferred to the Anglo-Egyptian Hospital in Cairo.

Father Hemanot Ava Bishoy said the army fired live ammunition and RPGs continuously for 30 minutes, which hit part of the ancient fence inside the monastery. “The army was shocked to see the monks standing there praying ‘Lord have mercy’ without running away. This is what really upset them,” he said. “As the soldiers were demolishing the gate and the fence they were chanting ‘Allahu Akbar’ and ‘Victory, Victory’.”

From Kashmir:

Srinagar (AsiaNews) — Suspected Islamic militants set fire on Feb. 19 to the School of the Convent of St. Luke, a Protestant educational institution that began its activities about 17 years ago in Srinagar, Kashmir. The damage is estimated at 60 million rupees (958 thousand euro). The attack occurred at about 22.30 local time. Eight rooms, including classrooms, library and computer labs were completely destroyed.

The school’s principal, Grace Paljor, said they are currently compiling an inventory of the damages, which are now calculated for 60 million rupees. She also claims to have been verbally threatened, several times, before the accident, for being Christian. The school has 450 students. At the time of the attack it was closed for the holidays and so there was no harm to people. The school will reopen on 1 March.

“The school administration is used to receiving threatening phone calls from time to time from extremists. They had threatened to set fire to the school, and have carried out their threat. After the Tyndale Biscoe was burned in August of 2010, the extremists have begun to target the Christian schools in the valley. We complained to the Munshi Bagh police station. ” Sources have told AsiaNews that the school has been targeted because of baseless rumours about a conversion.

And we wonder why the Jews feel threatened?

(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) — A senior member of Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood said there is virtually no peace agreement with the Zionist regime following the recent developments in the country, adding that any treaty not approved by the Egyptian nation must be abrogated.

Kamal Halbavi was speaking to Qudsna when asked about the future of several treaties signed by the former Egyptian regime with the Zionist regime.

The Egyptian nation considers as null and void any agreement between the toppled regime and the Zionist regime which has no respect for justice and rights of the Egyptian people.

He said the world was witnessing massive changes. “People worldwide want to see unjust laws scraped. It is no surprise for the Egyptians to want the same,” he said.

Halbavi then touched on the dismantling of Berlin wall, adding that following the dismantling, many previously signed treaties were abrogated.

02-25-2011, 12:23 PM
Let the record show that right from the beginning of all this I predicted a rising of the Muslim empire and a return of the Caliph. We will arm them and create a holy war with those damn Christians in Europe. Control the region/oil and trade and support our dollar globally. It's a shot in the dark but I think we are in a perfect position to take advantage of that situation. I think Gaddafi was spot on saying Obama Bin Laden was behind this.

02-25-2011, 12:33 PM
"Libya’s patchwork of protests had evolved into an increasingly well-armed revolutionary movement."


Radical Islamists will be a huge issue. If they do rise to power across the ME it will push us to the brink I am afraid.

02-25-2011, 12:43 PM
"Osama bin Laden has corrupted your youth!" says HonestChieffan, a spokesman for the Col.

02-25-2011, 01:03 PM
Egypt and Libya are one thing but once this hits Saudi Arabia (and it will)...that'll be the tipping point. It'll be SHTF time here then.

02-25-2011, 01:27 PM
So much for democracy? Fuck democracy. Some variation on this is what the majority would do to the minority in any democracy.

go bo
02-25-2011, 01:50 PM
Egypt and Libya are one thing but once this hits Saudi Arabia (and it will)...that'll be the tipping point. It'll be SHTF time here then.i dunno...

saudi arabia is a different animal from the other countries in the region...

it is largely a very conservative society, baseed on wahabism (sp?), which is virtually an islamist sect...

if sa goes, it will almost certainly be an islamic state that replaces it...

bad news for world oil supplies...

very bad news...

02-25-2011, 03:09 PM
Yup...we'd be looking at $7-10 a gallon for gas if that happens.

I am worried about what's going on right now in the ME but if it hits SA, I'll REALLY be worried.

02-25-2011, 06:18 PM
"Osama bin Laden has corrupted your youth!" says HonestChieffan, a spokesman for the Col.