PDA

View Full Version : Movies and TV R2D2 and Chewbacca - The real brains of the Rebellion


Count Zarth
02-26-2011, 09:15 PM
This is fascinating.

R2 D2

If we accept all the Star Wars films as the same canon, then a lot that happens in the original films has to be reinterpreted in the light of the prequels. As we now know, the rebel Alliance was founded by Yoda, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Bail Organa. What can readily be deduced is that their first recruit, who soon became their top field agent, was R2-D2.

Consider: at the end of RotS, Bail Organan orders 3PO's memory wiped but not R2's. He wouldn't make the distinction casually. Both droids know that Yoda and Obi-Wan are alive and are plotting sedition with the Senator from Alderaan. They know that Amidala survived long enough to have twins and could easily deduce where they went. However, R2 must make an impassioned speech to the effect that he is far more use to them with his mind intact: he has observed Palpatine and Anakin at close quarters for many years, knows much that is useful and is one of the galaxy's top experts at hacking into other people's systems. Also he can lie through his teeth with a straight face. Organa, in immediate need of espionage resources, agrees.

For the next 20 years, as far as 3PO knows, he is the property of Captain Antilles, doing protocol duties on a diplomatic transport. He is vaguely aware of the existence of the princess but doesn't know much about her. Wherever 3PO goes, being as loud and obvious as he always is, his unobtrusive little counterpart goes with him. 3PO is R2's front man. Wherever they land, R2 is passing messages between rebel sympathisers and sizing up governments as potential rebel recruits - both by personal contact and by hacking into their networks. He passes his recommendations on to Organa.

Yoda is out of the picture by this stage, using the Force-infused swamps of Dagobah to hide himself from Vader and the Emperor. Or something. He is meditating on the future and keeping in touch with Obi-Wan via the ghost of Qui-Gon Jin, which as comm systems go has the virtue of being untappable. Obi-Wan, on Tattoine, keeps in touch with Bail Organa and the other Rebel leaders by courier, of which more later.

As Star Wars opens, R2 is rushing the Death Star plans to the Rebellion. R2, not Leia. The plans are always in R2. What Leia puts into him in the early scene is only her own holographic message to Kenobi. Leia's own mission, as she says in the holographic message, is to pick up Obi-Wan and take him to Alderaan - or so she thinks. Actually, her father just wants her to meet Kenobi, which up to this point she never has. There's a reason for that.

Obi-Wan has spent the last 20 years in the Tattoine desert, keeping watch over Luke Skywalker and trying to decide on one of the three available options:

A) If Luke shows no significant access to the Force, then leave him alone in obscurity

B) If Luke shows real Force ability, then consider recruiting him as a Jedi. The rebellion needs Jedi. Now.

But, if Luke shows any signs of turning out like his father, then C) sneak into his house one fine night and chop his head off. With great regret but it'll save a lot of trouble later on.

Knowing this to be the case, Bail Organa (perhaps at the insistence of his wife) has found excuses not to send Leia to Ben for assessment of Jedi potential, largely for fear of option C.

To be fair to all concerned, Leia has shown no overt signs of a link to the Force. Luke on the other hand has. In his home-built hotrod aircraft, with no formal fighter pilot training and no decent instrumentation, Luke can regularly score centre-hits on 2-metre targets in complicated zero-altitude maneouvres. Until he attends the briefing on Yavin, Luke has no way of knowing that hardened combat pilots would consider that nearly impossible. To him it's easy. Obi-Wan, who saw Anakin's performance in the Pod Race, is nervous.

Much of Obi-Wan's behaviour in this film, and Yoda's in the next, can best be understood if they are frankly scared to death of what Luke might become. (Ben is also scared that he himself will make all the same mistakes he made with Anakin.)

Now, with the existence of the rebellion at stake, Bail Organa has finally told Leia to go see Obi-Wan and has sent her along with R2. The original plan would then be for Obi-Wan (with optional Luke and/or Leia in tow) to leave his exile and take the Death Star plans to Yavin, where they can be put to use. R2 (with Leia if Ben doesn't want to take her) would then carry on to Alderaan to maintain the cover story. The original plan does not survive contact with a large Imperial Star Destroyer.

R2 and 3PO bail out in an escape pod, landing in vaguely the right area of Tattoine, where R2's first priority is transport. He arranges to be captured by a group of Jawas and, once on board their transport, he makes a deal with them (possibly using emergency funds stored about his person) to take him where he wants to go. The Jawas refuse to go directly to Kenobi for fear of marauding Sandpeople but they agree to R2's second request : transport to the Skywalker farm. They even get to keep the purchase price if they can sell R2 and 3PO there. The Jawas shake on it and go through with the plan.

Seeing 3PO fail to recognise the farm where he worked for 10 years gives r2 a moment's amusement but, as soon as possible, he gets away and heads for Kenobi. Luke and 3PO follow, which may or may not have been part of the plan.

On first seeing R2, Obi-Wan has a twinkle in his eye and calls him "my little friend". Well, he is. However, when Luke wakes up and says that R2 claimed to be owned by an Obi-Wan Kenobi, he blandly says "I don't seem to remember ever owning a droid." Ben has in fact owned several but the remark is aimed at R2 and translates as "You keep quiet. I'm not about to tell him everything just yet." Obi-Wan thinks fast and tells Luke a version of his past that does not involve a father who became a dark lord of the Sith. He wants to examine Luke a lot more closely before he risks telling him the real truth.

Although the Death Star plans need to get to Yavin as soon as possible, Obi-Wan needs to make one more diversion first. If the Empire knows that Leia is a Rebel leader, then they also know about her father and the whole Organa family may need immediate evacuation. Fortunately, before coming to Tattoine, R2 had already arranged transport, which is waiting at Mos Eisley, under the command of the Rebellion's other chief field agent and espionage asset. Chewbacca.

CHEWBACCA

20 years earlier, Chewbacca was second in command of the defence of his planet. He's there in the tactical conferences and there on the front lines and is a personal friend of Yoda's. When he needed reliable people to join the embryonic Alliance, who else would Yoda turn to but his old friend from Kashykk? Given his background, there is no way that Chewie would spend the crucial years of the rebellion as the second-in-command to (sorry Han) a low-level smuggler. Unless it's his cover. In fact, Chewie is a top-line spy and flies what is in many ways the Rebellion's best ship.

The Millenium Falcon may look like a beat-up old freighter but it can outrun any Imperial ship in normal space or hyperspace, hang in a firefight with a Star Destroyer or outmaneouvre a dozen top-of-the-line TIE fighters. It's a remarkable feat of engineering and must have cost a colossal fortune to build. How does Han come to own a ship like that? He only thinks he does, actually it's Chewie's. Half-way through RotS, we see the Falcon landing at the Senate building on Coruscant. If it's the same ship (which of course it is) then it was the personal transport of one of the senatorial delegations - a much more likely source to commission its design. That delegatino must have later joined the Rebellion and given it the use of the Falcon. In fact, if the delegation is the one from Kashykk, then the ship may have belonged to Chewbacca as early as RotS.

Han is Chewie's front man. It's much better, and safer for him, if he doesn't know what's really going on. Chewie used to work with Lando Calrissian in a similar way but Lando wanted to settle down, so Chewie arranged for him to lose the Falcon in a card game to Han Solo, an even better choice as partner. Han and Chewie's working method is pretty much what we see in the cantina scene: Chewie make the contacts and sets up the deals, then turns them over to Han who haggles over the price and gives the final yea or nay. This lets Chewie wander the seamy underside of the galaxy pretty much at will, making contacts, gathering and passing information with no-one was the wiser, especially not Han.

Chewie persuaded Han to do business with Jabba the Hutt so he could make regular runs to Tattoine, where Chewie could pass messages between Kenobi and Organa. When R2's urgent message came through only days before, the only way for Chewie to get back to Tattoine in time was to make the "mistake" that forced Han to dump his cargo to avoid capture. As a down side, this led to Solo's getting a death mark out on him from Jabba the Hutt. Chewie was a bit upset about the need for that but figured they weren't going to be dealing with Tattoine for much longer.

En route to Alderaan, R2 and Chewie play stop-motion chess. This is the latest in a series of games they've played over the year in the back rooms of space stations and cantinas across the galaxy, but this is the first time they've done it in front of their respective straight men, so they put on a big show.

Then it all goes wrong again. Alderaan is gone and the Falcon is caught and brought aboard the Death Star. Only Han, Luke and 3PO don't know just how much trouble they're in but Obi-Wan has a plan and seems confident (but Jedi always do). Soon afterwards, R2 finds Leia in the detention cells and shouts that they have to rescue her, to which Chewie can only agree. If Vader learns he has a daughter, then they're all in deep trouble, so Chewie does his bit to persuade Han to go along with Luke's plan.

Then, on the verge of escape, Vader himself turns up only yards from both of his children, one of whom is leaking Force all over the place. Obi-Wan stages a distraction by letting himself die and go into the Force while the others escape. At this point, Chewie suddenly realises that he's been left in charge, not only of the Death Star Plans and the survival of the Rebellion but of the secret son and daughter of Darth Vader. With the Organas and Kenobi all dead, only Chewie, R2 and Yoda know who Luke and Leia are. And only Ob-Wan knew where Yoda has been hiding. Chewie is stressed out by the responsibility and R2 (who keeps making crude jokes about the whole affair) is being no help at all.

Chewie's first problem is what is happening between Luke and Leia. With a psychic link they can feel but don't understand, thrown together in a life-or-death escape, they are looking at each other with a sparky intensity that Chewie gradually recognises as Romantic Tension. He's no expert on human relationships but Chewie is fairly sure that that's Wrong, so he does the only thing he can under the circumstances - he throws Han at her. Han is at first not interested but after a while starts to warm to the idea with an intensity that gives Chewie new worries.

When they reach Yavin, Han decides to take the money and run and Chewie decides to go with him. Looked at in cold light, it's for the good of the Rebellion. Even if Yavin is destroyed, there'll be one agent who knows what's going on who can try and put something back together, but he doesn't feel good about it. When Han decides to turn around and join the attack, Chewie is all for it.

Han and Luke get medals but Chewie doesn't. Actually, Leia offers him one but Chewie turns it down. He got one of those things from Yoda about 20 years ago, but there's no way he can tell her that.

As the film ends, the three founders of the Rebellion are all gone. Bail Organa is dead, Yoda is out of contact and Obi-Wan's ghost can only talk to other Jedi. (So that would be Yoda then.) Thus, the field leadership of the rebellion has just been turned over to the daughter of Darth Vader. Chewie is really hoping that someone with an official rank greater than hers will get here real soon before he has to think really seriously about option C.

Keith Martin 2005

KurtCobain
02-26-2011, 09:18 PM
Chewie's first problem is he doesn't have the proper hands to allow him to roll a fat joint.

bowener
02-26-2011, 09:34 PM
This is pretty cool stuff. Nice find.

kysirsoze
02-26-2011, 09:51 PM
This whole thing almost makes the prequels worth it.

Psyko Tek
02-27-2011, 12:45 AM
NO, it doesn't
but it makes sense of them

best reasoning I have heard I'm sure Lucas would say
Yeah that's it
well he would if he gave a shit

kcfanXIII
02-27-2011, 01:42 AM
A couple inaccuracies(Chewie was working in a spice mine i believe and owed solo a life debt, iirc). Buuuuut it is a nice read. I had a huge problem with chewie making an appearance in RotS. I just didn't think he fit in at that point.

Count Zarth
02-27-2011, 02:30 AM
That's EU garbage. This is just based on the movies.

Dallas Chief
02-27-2011, 04:49 AM
Absolutely brilliant. My 7 year old will get a kick out of this. He is gonna be like "WTF Dad?"

Over-Head
02-27-2011, 07:10 AM
Chewie's first problem is he doesn't have the proper hands to allow him to roll a fat joint. THIS

Frazod
02-27-2011, 07:31 AM
The author of this piece is clearly far more clever than Lucas.

vailpass
02-27-2011, 07:34 AM
Where is Triumph the Insult Comic Dog when you need him?

Gadzooks
02-27-2011, 08:55 AM
A couple inaccuracies(Chewie was working in a spice mine i believe and owed solo a life debt, iirc). Buuuuut it is a nice read. I had a huge problem with chewie making an appearance in RotS. I just didn't think he fit in at that point.

Yeah, what about the life debt?!?

mnchiefsguy
02-27-2011, 11:18 AM
Han Solo won the Falcon from Lando Calrissan, which is established as fact in Empire Strikes Back....therefore Chewie could not have owned it in ROTS. A very interesting read though, thanks for posting.

Simply Red
02-27-2011, 11:28 AM
Kenobi was dope.

Simply Red
02-27-2011, 11:29 AM
Han Solo won the Falcon from Lando Calrissan, which is established as fact in Empire Strikes Back....therefore Chewie could not have owned it in ROTS. A very interesting read though, thanks for posting.

Jees, a bigger SW geek than Clay - astounding.

Rausch
02-27-2011, 11:30 AM
I'm pretty sure Chewbacca spent 3 episodes wondering "what the fuck these dumb ass white boys ding?......?

Simply Red
02-27-2011, 11:30 AM
Han Solo won the Falcon from Lando Calrissan, which is established as fact in Empire Strikes Back....therefore Chewie could not have owned it in ROTS. A very interesting read though, thanks for posting.

you have to admit it though, mnchiefsguy, Kenobi was studly, period.

mnchiefsguy
02-27-2011, 11:34 AM
you have to admit it though, mnchiefsguy, Kenobi was studly, period.

Absolutely, Kenobi's wallet say 'Bad-Ass MF' on it. :thumb:

Gadzooks
02-27-2011, 11:36 AM
Han Solo won the Falcon from Lando Calrissan, which is established as fact in Empire Strikes Back....therefore Chewie could not have owned it in ROTS. A very interesting read though, thanks for posting.

"Chewie used to work with Lando Calrissian in a similar way but Lando wanted to settle down, so Chewie arranged for him to lose the Falcon in a card game to Han Solo, an even better choice as partner."
Prior to this Chewie owned the Falcon. It was all a ruse to make Mr. Solo Chewie's C3-PO (front man).

mnchiefsguy
02-27-2011, 11:45 AM
"Chewie used to work with Lando Calrissian in a similar way but Lando wanted to settle down, so Chewie arranged for him to lose the Falcon in a card game to Han Solo, an even better choice as partner."
Prior to this Chewie owned the Falcon. It was all a ruse to make Mr. Solo Chewie's C3-PO (front man).

That does seem to be a little far-fetched. If Chewie owned the Falcon...wouldn't he just let Lando settle down and then go find a new partner?

Valiant
02-27-2011, 12:01 PM
This fan fic discription is better then anything Lucas could create to fill in story(made up albeit).. Hence star wars 1-3..

Gadzooks
02-27-2011, 12:07 PM
That does seem to be a little far-fetched. If Chewie owned the Falcon...wouldn't he just let Lando settle down and then go find a new partner?

I agree, and this is where the whole theory falls apart due to the "Life Debt".
The R2 stuff is pretty solid though.

vailpass
02-27-2011, 02:27 PM
ROFL The loser is strong in these posters.

threebag02
02-27-2011, 03:30 PM
I can't believe nobody has quoted that long ass post yet.

Over-Head
02-27-2011, 04:09 PM
That does seem to be a little far-fetched. If Chewie owned the Falcon...wouldn't he just let Lando settle down and then go find a new partner?

Awsome read...whole life history of the Falcon which was used as a smuggling freighter PRIOR to either Lando or Han owning her. starting with Quip Fargil the man who had originally named the Falcon as it is today.
She was wrecked, and re-built at one point

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_Falcon_(novel)

Over-Head
02-27-2011, 04:14 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Han_Solo_Trilogy

This one actually has the event of the 12 Parsec Kessell run

HolyHandgernade
02-27-2011, 05:04 PM
That does seem to be a little far-fetched. If Chewie owned the Falcon...wouldn't he just let Lando settle down and then go find a new partner?

If Chewie is really to be considered the mastermind puppet master, then I suppose you could see him trying to maintain a profile lower than "space freighter owner". A Wookie who owns his own freighter would be much more conspicuous than a Wookie who was part of a freighter captain's crew since the Empire had supposedly conquered the Wookies and enslaved them.

Simply Red
02-27-2011, 05:08 PM
If Chewie is really to be considered the mastermind puppet master, then I suppose you could see him trying to maintain a profile lower than "space freighter owner". A Wookie who owns his own freighter would be much more conspicuous than a Wookie who was part of a freighter captain's crew since the Empire had supposedly conquered the Wookies and enslaved them.


Chewie could pilot - please believe it!

blaise
02-27-2011, 05:21 PM
But why did Chewie let Han land inside the giant asteroid worm and then get out and walk around?

HolyHandgernade
02-27-2011, 05:30 PM
Chewie could pilot - please believe it!

Fly, yes, but own?

Gadzooks
02-27-2011, 06:14 PM
But why did Chewie let Han land inside the giant asteroid worm and then get out and walk around?

That was a shock to everyone. Even me!

chefsos
02-27-2011, 07:58 PM
Chewie's first problem is what is happening between Luke and Leia. With a psychic link they can feel but don't understand, thrown together in a life-or-death escape, they are looking at each other with a sparky intensity that Chewie gradually recognises as Romantic Tension. He's no expert on human relationships but Chewie is fairly sure that that's Wrong, so he does the only thing he can under the circumstances - he throws Han at her.Haha, can you envision the fucked up, incest-retarded Force that their offspring would command?

kysirsoze
02-27-2011, 08:56 PM
Yeah, what about the life debt?!?

What better way to explain why he would follow Solo without question than a life debt. Might seem far-fetched, but if we're accepting that Chewie is the mastermind this article suggests, then that doesn't seem like it would be beyond his grasp.

Gadzooks
02-27-2011, 09:42 PM
What better way to explain why he would follow Solo without question than a life debt. Might seem far-fetched, but if we're accepting that Chewie is the mastermind this article suggests, then that doesn't seem like it would be beyond his grasp.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HY-03vYYAjA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

88TG88
02-27-2011, 10:23 PM
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/cDGX8WCVfwg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>