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Buck
03-06-2011, 04:21 PM
http://i.imgur.com/zCQiN.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/sajaL.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/PiJJE.jpg

Rams Fan
03-06-2011, 04:25 PM
How many teams from the Big 12 do you think are going to be in the tourney, Buck?

Spott
03-06-2011, 04:27 PM
CU is done!

Buck
03-06-2011, 04:27 PM
How many teams from the Big 12 do you think are going to be in the tourney, Buck?

Kansas, Mizzou, Texas, Texas A&M, Kansas St

Buck
03-06-2011, 04:31 PM
And if anyone has a better idea on how I can organize the OP, I'll do it.

kstater
03-06-2011, 04:50 PM
And if anyone has a better idea on how I can organize the OP, I'll do it.

Get rid of all the shitty, irrelevant conferences.

Buck
03-06-2011, 04:54 PM
Get rid of all the shitty, irrelevant conferences.

According to ESPN that would be everyone except the Big East and Big 10

|Zach|
03-06-2011, 04:55 PM
I dig the thread. Thanks Buck.

Old Dog
03-06-2011, 05:10 PM
According to ESPN that would be everyone except the Big East and Big 10

and ACC...cool thread though

DJay23
03-06-2011, 05:24 PM
I'll chime in. Good thread. It's nice to see it all organized in one place I visit regularly.

Buck
03-06-2011, 05:33 PM
Here is a cool site that keeps track of all the bracket projections on the internet.

I'll put it in the OP too.

http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm

Buck
03-06-2011, 06:03 PM
ESPN 2 Right now is Santa Clara vs St. Mary's

St. Mary's might be a Bubble Burster if they don't win the WCC tourney.

Same goes for Gonzaga tonight, but I'm not 100% sure with either of these teams.

mnchiefsguy
03-06-2011, 06:09 PM
Wow, your link has Missouri State in as a 13 seed. Would be very cool if that were to hold up, but I am not holding my breath. Missouri, K-State both as a 7 is a little surprising, I figured K-State would be at least a six or a five after beating both KU and Texas.

Saulbadguy
03-06-2011, 06:11 PM
Get rid of all the shitty, irrelevant conferences.

Start with the Mountain West.

Pablo
03-06-2011, 06:51 PM
This is a great thread Buck.

I know everyone on this board is anxiously awaiting the announcement of whether KU will be the overall #1 seed or not.

KC_Connection
03-06-2011, 06:51 PM
CU is done!
Don't forget the scrubs at NU.

Pablo
03-06-2011, 06:51 PM
Start with the Mountain West.LMAO

kstater
03-06-2011, 06:55 PM
This is a great thread Buck.

I know everyone on this board is anxiously awaiting the announcement of whether KU will be the overall #1 seed or not.

I'd say OSU pretty much wrapped that up today. But it'll be good for KU. Help motivate them. Keep them under the radar.

Pablo
03-06-2011, 06:57 PM
I'd say OSU pretty much wrapped that up today. But it'll be good for KU. Help motivate them. Keep them under the radar.I just hope they draw a 16 seed from the MWC in the first round.

Somebody to abuse mercilessly.

Like SDSU, for instance.

KC_Connection
03-06-2011, 06:57 PM
I'd say OSU pretty much wrapped that up today. But it'll be good for KU. Help motivate them. Keep them under the radar.
Yeah, the overall #1 is apparently something to avoid.

alnorth
03-06-2011, 07:01 PM
This is a great thread Buck.

I know everyone on this board is anxiously awaiting the announcement of whether KU will be the overall #1 seed or not.

Since tOSU and KU would have no conflict with one another on preferred site, being the overall #1 would be strictly for pride. (Ohio State would want the East, Kansas would want Southwest) Duke and Pitt would also both want East or Southeast before settling on Southwest.

If you get your preferred region, then a #1 is a #1, there's not much difference on the S-curve. Kansas needs to avoid being the last #1 (no one wants to go West), and they need to stay ahead of Texas. If Kansas wins the Big 12 tourney, they are in good shape. If they lose in the championship game to anyone but Texas, they might still be OK. If Kansas fails to reach the championship game, they might go west or fall off the top line.

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2011, 07:03 PM
Kentucky is going to be toast early, I don't think Mizzou will repeat there relative success from last year, and the bandwagon I hopped onto in Missouri State is NIT bound. I really don't have a pressing reason to give a shit about NCAA basketball this month. Yay.

DMAC
03-06-2011, 07:10 PM
No way MO state is NIT bound.

kstater
03-06-2011, 07:11 PM
No way MO state is NIT bound.

Guaranteed to get in. Might not get to host a game though.

BigRedChief
03-06-2011, 07:31 PM
Wow, your link has Missouri State in as a 13 seed. Would be very cool if that were to hold up, but I am not holding my breath. Missouri, K-State both as a 7 is a little surprising, I figured K-State would be at least a six or a five after beating both KU and Texas.I'd like to see it too but no way Mo State is in the big dance, unless its a make up for past rejections.

They will defintely get an NIT invitation.

DaKCMan AP
03-06-2011, 08:05 PM
Hoping Florida gets in the Tampa regional..

KChiefs1
03-06-2011, 09:53 PM
Big 12 Bubble Teams:
Colorado - out
Baylor - out
Nebraska - out

IMHO...One of these has to make a big show in the Big 12 Tournament to get selected.

alnorth
03-06-2011, 10:02 PM
Big 12 Bubble Teams:
Colorado - out
Baylor - out
Nebraska - out

IMHO...One of these has to make a big show in the Big 12 Tournament to get selected.

All three are out unless they win the big 12 tourney. Nebraska may have been close if they had not lost to colorado recently, but now we are a 5-bid league unless someone goes on a fluke 4-game win streak.

WebGem
03-06-2011, 10:09 PM
This selection Sunday is gonna be the best ever

WebGem
03-06-2011, 10:11 PM
Nebraska - out

PBJ

Buehler445
03-06-2011, 10:23 PM
Hoping Florida gets in the Tampa regional..

What kind of seed are they expecting?
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KC_Connection
03-06-2011, 10:24 PM
Big 12 Bubble Teams:
Colorado - out
Baylor - out
Nebraska - out

IMHO...One of these has to make a big show in the Big 12 Tournament to get selected.

Colorado is still in for Lunardi, but I expect losses in conference play for some teams which will take away at-larges.

KC Tattoo
03-06-2011, 10:51 PM
Kansas, Mizzou, Texas, Texas A&M, Kansas St

"By Winning"

Al Bundy
03-06-2011, 11:00 PM
Poor UMKC, another blowout loss in the 1st round of the Summit league tournament. Matt Brown should be fired tomorrow.

|Zach|
03-06-2011, 11:13 PM
I think Missouri is a dreaded 8/9 seed. Gonna be some tough games for them. I would be shocked if the Bears got in. But damn they deserve a spot after all the horse shit that has happened with that program in regards to the tournament.

DaKCMan AP
03-07-2011, 06:27 AM
What kind of seed are they expecting?
Posted via Mobile Device

3 or 4. If they win the SEC tournament I think they'd be a 3 with an outside chance at a 2.

Buck
03-07-2011, 02:03 PM
There aren't any bracket buster games today.

Gonzaga plays St Mary's for the WCC Championship, but regardless of who wins they are either both making it or only one of them. No huge blow to all other teams depending on who wins.

KC_Connection
03-07-2011, 04:50 PM
There aren't any bracket buster games today.

Gonzaga plays St Mary's for the WCC Championship, but regardless of who wins they are either both making it or only one of them. No huge blow to all other teams depending on who wins.

You forgot about VCU/Old Dominion.

If VCU wins, that will take a spot away from the bubble.

Buck
03-07-2011, 04:51 PM
You think Old Dominion is going to get an at large bid?

I guess they could, but I don't see both George Mason and Old Dominion getting At Large bids. One or the other.

KC_Connection
03-07-2011, 04:53 PM
You think Old Dominion is going to get an at large bid?
No question in my mind. As will George Mason.

KC_Connection
03-07-2011, 04:53 PM
ODU is a 8 on that bracket matrix you posted, BTW.

Buck
03-07-2011, 04:54 PM
No question in my mind. As will George Mason.

I just edited my post, but I really doubt the CAA gets 3 bids.

KC_Connection
03-07-2011, 04:58 PM
I just edited my post, but I really doubt the CAA gets 3 bids.
GMU and ODU are better than shitty teams like Colorado and VT so I really don't see the problem.

Buck
03-07-2011, 05:07 PM
I forgot about the extra 4 spots this year.

If it was at 64 I think George Mason or ODU would be out because I can account for 63 other teams and I doubt they'd get the last spot, but these last 4 will probably help them.

Al Bundy
03-07-2011, 06:00 PM
GMU and ODU are better than shitty teams like Colorado and VT so I really don't see the problem.

Exactly. Those 2 teams would beat teams like Colorado and VT like rented mules.

Reerun_KC
03-07-2011, 06:00 PM
Great thread... Who is on tap tonight?:

I havent looked yet...

Al Bundy
03-07-2011, 06:04 PM
Great thread... Who is on tap tonight?:

I havent looked yet...

CAA Championship VCU VS ODU
MAAC Championship St Peters VS Iona
Southern Conference Wofford VS COCharleston
WCC Champ St. Mary's VS Gonzaga

Reerun_KC
03-07-2011, 06:08 PM
Thanks... Will get the TV's on in a few...

chiefsfan987
03-07-2011, 06:29 PM
Exactly. Those 2 teams would beat teams like Colorado and VT like rented mules.

doubtfull. And I also doubt that they would have beaten Texas or won twice against KSU either. IMO Colorado is slightly better than those teams and played a much tougher schedule than the CAL teams. Half the conference finished with an overall losing record. Thats a lot of patsys on those teams schedules.

Old dominion lost to Missouri by 23 points. Colorado beat Missouri at home and lost to Missouri by 16 on the road. I really don't think GMU's resume is very good either. They, like Colorado have some bad losses, (NC State, Dayton) but they don't have anywhere near as good a marquee win as CU does. If Colorado plays KSU one more time in the Big XII tourney and wins again they are for sure in.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-07-2011, 06:33 PM
It would have been interesting had Missouri beaten KSU and Nebraska and gotten at least to the semis of the BXII tourney, and ended up as a 6 hosting and 11 seeded Missouri State.

|Zach|
03-07-2011, 06:40 PM
It would have been interesting had Missouri beaten KSU and Nebraska and gotten at least to the semis of the BXII tourney, and ended up as a 6 hosting and 11 seeded Missouri State.

I like both of them! That would suck.

chiefsfan987
03-07-2011, 06:41 PM
CAA Championship VCU VS ODU
MAAC Championship St Peters VS Iona
Southern Conference Wofford VS COCharleston
WCC Champ St. Mary's VS Gonzaga

can't wait for the St. Marys vs zags game.

Discuss Thrower
03-07-2011, 06:59 PM
ODU choking = starting to nail the coffin that is MSU's slim hopes for an at large bid. (If I'm not mistaken)

Reerun_KC
03-07-2011, 07:00 PM
VCU/ODU what a great game

KC_Connection
03-07-2011, 07:01 PM
St. Peter's is choking.

KC_Connection
03-07-2011, 07:10 PM
ODU is going to pull this out. Colorado is saved for now.

KC_Connection
03-07-2011, 07:12 PM
St. Peter's is in.

Buck
03-07-2011, 07:16 PM
Updated the OP, just got back home, how were the games?

Buck
03-07-2011, 07:17 PM
OH SHIT I MIGHT HAVE GIVEN ODU THIS THING TOO SOON!

Buck
03-07-2011, 08:44 PM
St. Marys 51 - Gonzaga 53
10:00 Left

Buck
03-07-2011, 08:46 PM
Wofford 59 - CofC 53
7:12 left

Buck
03-07-2011, 08:58 PM
Wofford up 5 with 3 min left
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Buck
03-07-2011, 09:09 PM
Looks like Wofford is gonna take it.
Posted via Mobile Device

alnorth
03-07-2011, 09:12 PM
Looks like Gonzaga will win the WCC

Buck
03-07-2011, 09:12 PM
Wofford is in and the Zags are pulling away.
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Buck
03-07-2011, 09:18 PM
I'm giving this game to Gonzaga and I'm going to say St Mary's will get an at large bid.

Buck
03-07-2011, 09:24 PM
The 2 biggest games tomorrow are Butler vs Milwaukee for the Horizon title and Marquette vs Providence.

Butler could get an at large if they don't win and burst a bubble.

Marquette should win but if they don't they might be on the outside looking in as the 11th Big East team.

Marquette might need to even win 2 games in the Big East tourney, but 1 would probably do.

WilliamTheIrish
03-08-2011, 07:37 AM
That Butler game is going to be a good one. I like that squad. Tough as hell.

chiefsfan987
03-08-2011, 07:24 PM
That South Florida / Villanova finish was great haha way to go S. Florida!

Buck
03-09-2011, 06:55 PM
Good news for a lot of teams as both Baylor and Nebraska are pretty much out of the running.

Al Bundy
03-09-2011, 07:54 PM
UCF failed HARD against ECU.

Buck
03-09-2011, 07:58 PM
Man, wasn't UCF like 12 or 13-0 to start the season?

Al Bundy
03-09-2011, 09:32 PM
Man, wasn't UCF like 12 or 13-0 to start the season?

14-0 and totally quit in conference USA.

Old Dog
03-10-2011, 02:04 PM
TCU up by one at the half over the Jimmer Fredettes

DaKCMan AP
03-10-2011, 02:06 PM
It's looking like Florida is locked into the #3 seed in the Tampa region regardless of the SEC Tourney outcome.

Buck
03-10-2011, 02:46 PM
WTF...TCU only down by 5 with 2 min left.
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KC_Connection
03-10-2011, 02:55 PM
WTF...TCU only down by 5 with 2 min left.
Posted via Mobile Device
BYU could lose in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament without Davies.

Buck
03-10-2011, 02:58 PM
BYU is gonna just get out of there with a win.

KC_Connection
03-10-2011, 03:01 PM
LOL, I just noticed TCU was 1-15 in the MWC.

BYU just isn't a good team, anymore.

Buck
03-10-2011, 03:15 PM
I think CU is in now.

Guru
03-10-2011, 03:19 PM
Maybe they will meet KSU again.

KC_Connection
03-10-2011, 04:35 PM
LAST FOUR IN

Michigan State (currently losing to Iowa, trying to get into QF's of B10)
Virginia Tech (play tonight to get into QF's of ACC)
Colorado (in SF's of B12)
Georgia (play Alabama in QF's of SEC)

FIRST FOUR OUT

Alabama (play Georgia in QF's of SEC)
USC (in SF's of Pac 10)
Missouri State (lost in final of MVC)
Washington State (in QF's of Pac 10)

NEXT FOUR OUT

Memphis (in SF's of CUSA)
UTEP (in QF's of CUSA)
Penn State (playing to get into QF's of B10 tonight)
California (lost in QF's of Pac 10)


Colorado and USC are looking pretty good right now.

Al Bundy
03-10-2011, 04:37 PM
Anyone catch that San Jose State game earlier? If you get a chance to watch San Jose State, you should check out a guy named Adrian Oliver.

Buck
03-11-2011, 12:07 PM
#20 Xavier loses to Dayton in the A10 tourney.

One more bubble burst.

3rd&48ers
03-11-2011, 12:12 PM
Carolina almost got their ass kicked by Miami .. down by as many as 18 Carolina came back and their only lead of the game was the game winning shot with 0.2 seconds left in the game....

I think they overlooked them a little

DTLB58
03-11-2011, 12:19 PM
A side note to the games.....All those Reese's Peanut Butter Cup ads around the court at the Big East tourny on espn are driving me crazy for them. Sold and ate. :LOL:

eazyb81
03-11-2011, 12:20 PM
Essentially a play-in game going on in the SEC right now.

Georgia is up 8 on Alabama with 15 to play.

3rd&48ers
03-11-2011, 12:23 PM
Next Game coming on ACC Quarter finals

Boston College Vs Clemson

eazyb81
03-11-2011, 01:00 PM
Essentially a play-in game going on in the SEC right now.

Georgia is up 8 on Alabama with 15 to play.

Bama down 2, has the ball, 19 seconds left.

Buck
03-11-2011, 01:02 PM
Wow Georgia coach calls a time out with 1 second left after they inbounded with 4 seconds and the dude made the shot for Georgia but it doesn't count because the coach called time out.

eazyb81
03-11-2011, 01:04 PM
Wow Georgia coach calls a time out with 1 second left after they inbounded with 4 seconds and the dude made the shot for Georgia but it doesn't count because the coach called time out.

No need to even call TO in that situation. They would have 1 second left anyways.

Dumb.

Buck
03-11-2011, 01:05 PM
Yeah the coach just blew it. The shooter had momentum going into that shot, now they only have .8 sec and no momentum. Stupid call by the coach.

eazyb81
03-11-2011, 01:23 PM
and Georgia loses after the stupid timeout and winning throughout regulation.

3rd&48ers
03-11-2011, 05:08 PM
Dook/ Maryland starting now

Buck
03-11-2011, 07:47 PM
Jimmer has 33 points for BYU and there is still 46 seconds left in the first half. Game is on CBS College Sports if you get it.

Buck
03-11-2011, 08:45 PM
Jimmer has 50 with 3:58 left.

tk13
03-11-2011, 09:01 PM
Penn State knocked off 13th ranked Wisconsin in the Big Ten tourney... not only that, but they won 36-33. Yes that was the real score.

CoMoChief
03-11-2011, 09:11 PM
Penn State knocked off 13th ranked Wisconsin in the Big Ten tourney... not only that, but they won 36-33. Yes that was the real score.
ROFL damn....I had to do a doubletake at that score.

Al Bundy
03-11-2011, 09:45 PM
Florida State, Buzzer beater over VA Tech.

Al Bundy
03-11-2011, 09:49 PM
Call overtturned... Florida State won, refs took it away

Simply Red
03-11-2011, 09:52 PM
what a battle here

Mr. Flopnuts
03-11-2011, 11:39 PM
GO DAWGS!!!! Arizona, it's payback time.

KC_Connection
03-11-2011, 11:45 PM
GO DAWGS!!!! Arizona, it's payback time.
I told you Washington wasn't a bad team.

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 12:15 AM
Lunardi's latest projection:

LAST BYES (avoid First Four games in Dayton)

Richmond (in SF's of A10)
Illinois (L in QF's of B10)
Saint Mary's (L in F's of WCC)
Clemson (in SF's of ACC)

LAST FOUR IN

Virginia Tech (in SF's of ACC)
Colorado (L in SF's of B12)
USC (L in SF's of P10)
Penn State (in SF's of B10)

FIRST FOUR OUT

Alabama (in SF's of SEC)
Boston College (L in QF's of ACC)
Georgia (L in QF's of SEC)
Memphis (in F's of CUSA)

NEXT OUT

UAB (L in QF's of CUSA)
Missouri State (L in F's of MVC)

Mr. Flopnuts
03-12-2011, 01:02 AM
I told you Washington wasn't a bad team.

That you did. I've been fortunate to see about 20 of their games this year in Springtown and they're finally starting to look like the team from the beginning of the season again. The wheels were falling off there for a minute. Shame about Missouri State for me, but I'm a Dawg fan through and through. Beating Arizona tomorrow would be HUGE for this team going into the Dance.

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 01:07 AM
That you did. I've been fortunate to see about 20 of their games this year in Springtown and they're finally starting to look like the team from the beginning of the season again. The wheels were falling off there for a minute. Shame about Missouri State for me, but I'm a Dawg fan through and through. Beating Arizona tomorrow would be HUGE for this team going into the Dance.
Washington is one of the best scoring teams in the NCAA. That will make them dangerous against whoever they play next week. I hope it's not KU in the 2nd round.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-12-2011, 01:11 AM
Washington is one of the best scoring teams in the NCAA. That will make them dangerous against whoever they play next week. I hope it's not KU in the 2nd round.

Me too. I'm hoping we can sneak in high enough to avoid a 1 seed until the sweet 16. We always get to the sweet 16, just once is love to surpass it. It'll be tough this year, but if they get hot like they look now, anything can happen.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 11:39 AM
Interesting question - one team is playing a championship game today. This team's stats are:

record: 21-5
RPI: low 30's
SOS: about 150
record vs RPI top 50: 2-3, and playing against a top-50 today
record vs RPI 51-150: 3-1
record vs RPI 151+: 16-1
no great wins, no terrible losses, 3 good wins, 1 bad loss.
last 10 games: 8-2

If this team loses their championship game, their RPI will finish in the low or mid-30's. Should they get an at-large bid?

alnorth
03-12-2011, 11:47 AM
(highlight to see)

That mystery team above is: Harvard

kstater
03-12-2011, 11:49 AM
Interesting question - one team is playing a championship game today. This team's stats are:

record: 21-5
RPI: low 30's
SOS: about 150
record vs RPI top 50: 2-3, and playing against a top-50 today
record vs RPI 51-150: 3-1
record vs RPI 151+: 16-1
no great wins, no terrible losses, 3 good wins, 1 bad loss.
last 10 games: 8-2

If this team loses their championship game, their RPI will finish in the low or mid-30's. Should they get an at-large bid?

You're talking about Harvard. They're actually 1-4 vs top 50. The only win being against Princeton. Their SOS is closer to 200 than 150. No they don't deserve an at large birth.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 12:14 PM
You're talking about Harvard. They're actually 1-4 vs top 50. The only win being against Princeton. Their SOS is closer to 200 than 150. No they don't deserve an at large birth.

Their SOS is 154, and their RPI is 32. Even Lunardi has begun to idly speculate that they are a dark horse for a surprise at-large. (behind a paywall, cant copy-paste)

By contrast, Alabama has a 78 RPI, 127 SOS, and 4 bad losses but people seem to be thinking long and hard about them.

tk13
03-12-2011, 12:16 PM
WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM IF THE TOURNAMENT WAS 128 TEAMS!!!!11

BigRedChief
03-12-2011, 12:37 PM
Lunardi's latest projection:

LAST BYES (avoid First Four games in Dayton)

Richmond (in SF's of A10)
Illinois (L in QF's of B10)
Saint Mary's (L in F's of WCC)
Clemson (in SF's of ACC)

LAST FOUR IN

Virginia Tech (in SF's of ACC)
Colorado (L in SF's of B12)
USC (L in SF's of P10)
Penn State (in SF's of B10)

FIRST FOUR OUT

Alabama (in SF's of SEC)
Boston College (L in QF's of ACC)
Georgia (L in QF's of SEC)
Memphis (in F's of CUSA)

NEXT OUT

UAB (L in QF's of CUSA)
Missouri State (L in F's of MVC)Doesn't this Lundari guy have a 97% correct pick record since 2000?

Chiefs Pantalones
03-12-2011, 12:47 PM
Wow Ohio State really has no depth. If they get into foul trouble in the big dance they are screwed.

DJay23
03-12-2011, 12:52 PM
Wow Ohio State really has no depth. If they get into foul trouble in the big dance they are screwed.

That's the big chink in their armor.

WilliamTheIrish
03-12-2011, 12:53 PM
O'NEILL SUSPENDED, USC LOSES
By RON GUILD, Sports Editor

http://www.wavenewspapers.com/sports/ONeill-suspended-USC-loses-117854539.html

Head coach Kevin O’Neill’s situation is even more unknown following his suspension stemming from an altercation he and his wife had with an Arizona supporter the night before at the team's downtown hotel.

LMAO

Buck
03-12-2011, 01:06 PM
If UNC wins I might just blow a gasket.

Blankey
03-12-2011, 01:23 PM
Nice chokejob Clemson

Buck
03-12-2011, 03:11 PM
So I missed the SDSU - UNLV game last night and apparently I missed a great game. SDSU vs BYU for the championship today.

Rams Fan
03-12-2011, 03:12 PM
So I missed the SDSU - UNLV game last night and apparently I missed a great game. SDSU vs BYU for the championship today.

Who do you think will win?

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 03:13 PM
SDSU is the better team without BYU having the benefit of Davies.

Buck
03-12-2011, 03:13 PM
Who do you think will win?

Tough call. They don't have Davies and we won't let Jimmer score 80 like he did last night. Depends on if Abouo, Hartsock, and Emery are just draining jumpers like they did last time. To beat SDSU you have to shoot at least high 50s even 60%.

I like SDSU's chances, but I honestly don't know.

DaKCMan AP
03-12-2011, 03:38 PM
Kentucky vs. Florida tomorrow at 1PM EST on ABC for the SEC Championship.

Mr. Laz
03-12-2011, 03:58 PM
princeton just won with a buzzer beater .... huge dogpile and fans stormed court.

somebody is getting smashed all to hell at the bottom of that pile of humanity ROFL

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 03:59 PM
Crazy ending.

WilliamTheIrish
03-12-2011, 04:00 PM
That was outstanding.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 04:06 PM
I think Harvard has a case, they are not a great team but they look about as shakey as a lot of the other questionable barely in/out teams on the bubble.

On the one hand, their RPI looks good. On the other hand, they recently played 2 of the very worst teams in the country twice each and of those 4 games there was only one blowout. The other 3 were single-digit wins.

If you are an ivy league team wanting an invite, you'd better at least blow out the bad teams on your schedule. So, I won't feel too sorry for them if they don't make it, but some of the teams who would take their place don't look much better to me.

|Zach|
03-12-2011, 04:07 PM
Thought it would be cool for a team to go who hasn't been since the dawn of time.

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 04:09 PM
Don't think Harvard has enough quality wins to get in.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 04:18 PM
Don't think Harvard has enough quality wins to get in.

probably, yep. They have 3 mildly nice wins, 1 questionable loss, and thats it. The rest of the schedule is blah.

Quickly scanning the bubble teams people are mentioning, I think Harvard would have a gripe if Alabama got in over them (its nice that they beat Kentucky a while back, but the crimson tide just shouldn't get in. Their schedule wasn't all that hard, and they would completely destroy the record for worst RPI to make it in) but thats about it, most of the other bubble teams have a slightly better resume.

WilliamTheIrish
03-12-2011, 04:25 PM
Don't think Harvard has enough quality wins to get in.

Lots of sentimentality though. I don't expect them to get a bid, but I don't think the committee will easily discount a great sentimental story.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 04:42 PM
Lots of sentimentality though. I don't expect them to get a bid, but I don't think the committee will easily discount a great sentimental story.

crazier things have happened. Didn't some air force team many years back that had no business getting in get inexplicably picked? Not the air force teams that were recently good, but some other air force team that people universally scratched their heads about.

It might take something like that. A low-30 RPI is good, but we usually see a low-30 team get left out about once a year. (though not last year, everyone was picked up to #40, I think)

edit: looked it up, the 2004 Air Force team was an 11-seed and probably got one of the last bids in that tournament. Although they had over 20 wins, they had a pretty bad RPI. Not sure if they had any good wins, but they lost to north carolina in the first round.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 05:06 PM
Lunardi now has Harvard out in his "next 4 out", but he also said he thinks the committee will give them a very hard look. They will probably be in or out depending on the sentimental value of letting a school in that has been out since 1946.

Buck
03-12-2011, 05:10 PM
If anyone finds a stream for the BYU/SDSU game my buddy is stuck at work and he'd like to watch.

Discuss Thrower
03-12-2011, 05:10 PM
Lunardi now has Harvard out in his "next 4 out", but he also said he thinks the committee will give them a very hard look. They will probably be in or out depending on the sentimental value of letting a school in that has been out since 1946.

Missouri State must be one of the most hated schools evar.

|Zach|
03-12-2011, 05:12 PM
Missouri State must be one of the most hated schools evar.

Haha, yea its a bummer they don't get a nod. I wouldnt be pissed if they didnt get in this year but some of those times in the past were maddening. Wish they would have taken care of business in the final.

|Zach|
03-12-2011, 05:13 PM
edit: looked it up, the 2004 Air Force team was an 11-seed and probably got one of the last bids in that tournament. Although they had over 20 wins, they had a pretty bad RPI. Not sure if they had any good wins, but they lost to north carolina in the first round.

Fuck that Air Force team. Fuck them in their fucking asses.

That is the team that stole Missouri State's bid that should not have made it.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 05:27 PM
This year's Missouri State team looks very, very similar to Harvard. The only difference is that Harvard lost a couple fewer games to mediocre teams, so they have an RPI in the low 30's instead of the low-40's.

This year's Missouri State team is probably not deserving, but they are definitely the proud owners of the all-time award for receiving the worst screw job in the history of NCAA selections.

|Zach|
03-12-2011, 05:34 PM
This year's Missouri State team looks very, very similar to Harvard. The only difference is that Harvard lost a couple fewer games to mediocre teams, so they have an RPI in the low 30's instead of the low-40's.

This year's Missouri State team is probably not deserving, but they are definitely the proud owners of the all-time award for receiving the worst screw job in the history of NCAA selections.

Yea I wouldn't see them being left out as a screw job this year. Agreed.

WilliamTheIrish
03-12-2011, 05:48 PM
Lunardi now has Harvard out in his "next 4 out", but he also said he thinks the committee will give them a very hard look. They will probably be in or out depending on the sentimental value of letting a school in that has been out since 1946.

I'm telling ya, sentimentality is going to land them in. If Loonardi has them that close, then he's tickling the balls of Gene Smith while Smith whispers in his ears. It's not like the world doesn't know that Lunardi has access. He's not right "97% of the time" by accident.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 06:04 PM
If I'm in the committee, I'm voting for Harvard. Once you get to the last 3 or 4 at-large bids your dealing with a big pile of mush that doesn't belong there anyway except we got spots to fill. A school hasn't gone in almost 70 years? It would be a cool story that would draw interest? Fine. Penn State, you are out, Harvard took your spot.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 06:06 PM
Ahh cool, San Diego State is taking it to BYU.

Seriously, I don't know why people haven't been picking them for a 2 seed already, this is a solid, solid team. SD State is going to be one of my big picks in my bracket.

WilliamTheIrish
03-12-2011, 06:17 PM
The graphic on the Big XII telecast estimates 6 Big XII teams in. If Harvard is given a sentimental YMCA feel good bid, does that knock out a Big XII squad?

alnorth
03-12-2011, 06:17 PM
Sweet.

Jayhawk fans can now confidently book plane tickets and hotels for Tulsa, and maybe San Antonio. Kansas is the #1 seed in the Southwest.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 06:19 PM
The graphic on the Big XII telecast estimates 6 Big XII teams in. If Harvard is given a sentimental YMCA feel good bid, does that knock out a Big XII squad?

No. Colorado is too far in, if it happens it'll be someone else's bid. Colorado might even be so far in that they might avoid an opening round game.

Colorado does have a questionable RPI in the 60's, but they have 20 wins, 4 excellent wins, 4 good wins, 3 bad losses, and zero terrible losses. Their resume is good for a 10 seed at worst.

WilliamTheIrish
03-12-2011, 06:24 PM
No. Colorado is too far in, if it happens it'll be someone else's bid. Colorado might even be so far in that they might avoid an opening round game.

Colorado does have a questionable RPI in the 60's, but they have 20 wins, 4 excellent wins, 4 good wins, 3 bad losses, and zero terrible losses. Their resume is good for a 10 seed at worst.

In all honesty I meant Mizzou. I know it's pretty much an impossibility but it's a scenario to keep in mind.

Bambi
03-12-2011, 06:25 PM
Time to change the header

Buck
03-12-2011, 06:26 PM
Time to change the header

I'm on it.

Buck
03-12-2011, 06:31 PM
Question, did KU already win the Conference Tourney or do they have another game tomorrow?

alnorth
03-12-2011, 06:31 PM
sweet. San Diego State is ripping BYU apart limb from limb. Stupid mormons, throwing out a fine young man because he had sex, they deserve to lose in the first round.

When those brackets come out, don't let your eyes glaze over when you see San Diego State, that team is going places.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 06:32 PM
Question, did KU already win the Conference Tourney or do they have another game tomorrow?

KU is the big XII tournament champion.

The big 12 wisely moved their game to saturday after getting sick of seeing their champion get no extra credit for winning right before selection sunday.

Bambi
03-12-2011, 06:34 PM
Question, did KU already win the Conference Tourney or do they have another game tomorrow?

I thought they were gonna play like MU or KSU or something because I haven't seen them at all at sprint center.

But someone in the other thread told me today was it.

I don't understand though cause they were picked 5th but they won both season and tourney...weird

Buck
03-12-2011, 06:35 PM
IMO KU > Ohio State.

If it were up to me you guys would probably get the #1 overall.

WilliamTheIrish
03-12-2011, 06:35 PM
UW!

Chiefs Pantalones
03-12-2011, 06:36 PM
HOLY SHIT WHAT A MOVE BY THOMAS OF WASHINGTON!

Mr. Flopnuts
03-12-2011, 06:37 PM
FUCK YEAH! GO DAWGS!!!!

Buck
03-12-2011, 06:37 PM
Did Washington win the Tourney as well? Sorry I'm sort of out of it and my team is on so I'm not really changing the channel.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 06:37 PM
IMO KU > Ohio State.

If it were up to me you guys would probably get the #1 overall.

Its cool either way. The sweet thing about this year is that every other top team wants the east or southeast. No one wants the southwest except Kansas. KU just needs to avoid being the 4th #1 seed, they do that, they are the #1 in their preferred region.

Being the overall #1 is nice for pride, but I'm fine with Ohio State getting that label because then if they don't make the final four, the choke label becomes even more loud and prominent.

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 06:38 PM
Washington is so dangerous. What a dagger shot. Really hope they're higher than a 8/9.

Bambi
03-12-2011, 06:38 PM
nice call gus

And Big 12 gets stuck with brent n bob. freakin hicks

Chiefs Pantalones
03-12-2011, 06:38 PM
**** YEAH! GO DAWGS!!!!

Congrats man!! You deserve it!

Buck
03-12-2011, 06:39 PM
Question, do you think UNC will be a 1 seed if they win tomorrow?

Bambi
03-12-2011, 06:39 PM
I hope college football is taking notes on how to run a sport.

WilliamTheIrish
03-12-2011, 06:39 PM
You don't like B&B? Gus is the best, but B&B are outstanding.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-12-2011, 06:39 PM
Did Washington win the Tourney as well? Sorry I'm sort of out of it and my team is on so I'm not really changing the channel.

Yep. They won it in OT on a fucking dagger by I.T.

Bambi
03-12-2011, 06:39 PM
Question, do you think UNC will be a 1 seed if they win tomorrow?

They're a 2 max.

OSU, KU, PITT, ND are your #1's

Rams Fan
03-12-2011, 06:40 PM
**** YEAH! GO DAWGS!!!!

I really miss Lorenzo Romar right now.

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 06:40 PM
If I'm in the committee, I'm voting for Harvard. Once you get to the last 3 or 4 at-large bids your dealing with a big pile of mush that doesn't belong there anyway except we got spots to fill. A school hasn't gone in almost 70 years? It would be a cool story that would draw interest? Fine. Penn State, you are out, Harvard took your spot.
Penn State is a way better team, though. This run in the B10 is impressive.

Bambi
03-12-2011, 06:42 PM
Its cool either way. The sweet thing about this year is that every other top team wants the east or southeast. No one wants the southwest except Kansas. KU just needs to avoid being the 4th #1 seed, they do that, they are the #1 in their preferred region.

Being the overall #1 is nice for pride, but I'm fine with Ohio State getting that label because then if they don't make the final four, the choke label becomes even more loud and prominent.

I want the west. It's been BYU the whole time as the #2 and they're terrible, like really not good.

Buck
03-12-2011, 06:42 PM
5 Loss Pitt who didn't even win 1 game in the tourney will get a 1? I'm not doubting you but it just doesn't seem right.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-12-2011, 06:42 PM
I really miss Lorenzo Romar right now.

He's awesome. I'm running a 102.6 temp today and this game was the only thing that could get me out of bed. Sooooo worth it. What a game!

Buck
03-12-2011, 06:42 PM
I want the west. It's been BYU the whole time as the #2 and they're terrible, like really not good.

Well SDSU is up 10 on BYU with 5 min left. If they win they should be the 2 in the west and BYU would be a 3 prob.

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 06:42 PM
Duke will get a #1 after they win tomorrow. As they should. The difference between the worst #1 and best #2 is negligible, though.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 06:43 PM
I want the west. It's been BYU the whole time as the #2 and they're terrible, like really not good.

that sounds like a sweet plan until SD State grabs that #2 west spot (#1 is not home protected from #2), and BYU gets shipped out as a 3 or 4.

I want NO PART of the west. Whichever #1 goes west could get screwed over by SD State. I almost have them pencilled in to the final four, depending on how tough that region looks.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-12-2011, 06:45 PM
that sounds like a sweet plan until SD State grabs that #2 west spot (#1 is not home protected from #2), and BYU gets shipped out as a 3 or 4.

I want NO PART of the west.

Do you think they'll give BYU a 2 even if they lose this game?

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 06:47 PM
Do you think they'll give BYU a 2 even if they lose this game?
There's not a chance. BYU isn't even a top 25 team anymore in my mind.

Bambi
03-12-2011, 06:48 PM
True, BYU is gonna lose so no way they're a #2.

Oh well, where-ever

alnorth
03-12-2011, 06:49 PM
Do you think they'll give BYU a 2 even if they lose this game?

Hell no, thats my point. The person I replied to wants the west because they think BYU will be #2 West. I think BYU will be a #3 or 4 somewhere else, and SD State (which, again is a really good team) will be #2 west.

KU going west would be a complete f**king disaster. Fortunately, we took care of business today and wont have to worry about it, the west region is someone else's problem.

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 06:49 PM
I see some combination of OSU/KU taking the first two #1 seeds, then Pitt, ND, Duke, and SDSU taking up the last two #1's and first two #2's.

The last two #2's will probably come out of Louisville, Texas, and UNC.

UNC might change things if they win tomorrow, though, because everyone likes to hype them up even if they aren't that good (and they aren't that good this year).

Bambi
03-12-2011, 06:50 PM
Hell no, thats my point. The person I replied to wants the west because they think BYU will be #2 West. I think BYU will be a #3 or 4 somewhere else, and SD State (which, again is a really good team) will be #2 west.

KU going west would be a complete f**king disaster. Fortunately, we took care of business today and wont have to worry about it, the west region is someone else's problem.

Whats a disaster about it?

I want nothing to do with UNc....really.....nothing

alnorth
03-12-2011, 06:52 PM
Cool quote from the Priceton-Harvard story. The game was played at Yale, which was thought to be a neutral site:

Before the game, Harvard and Princeton students joined in chanting "Yale sucks!"

Awesome. Harvard should get bonus points just for that.

Buck
03-12-2011, 06:53 PM
I see some combination of OSU/KU taking the first two #1 seeds, then Pitt, ND, Duke, and SDSU taking up the last two #1's and first two #2's.

The last two #2's will probably come out of Louisville, Texas, and UNC.

UNC might change things if they win tomorrow, though, because everyone likes to hype them up even if they aren't that good (and they aren't that good this year).

As an SDSU fan, I'd rather have the 2 in the West than the 1 anywhere else....and the committee knows that so it'll make that an easy decision.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-12-2011, 06:55 PM
Hell no, thats my point. The person I replied to wants the west because they think BYU will be #2 West. I think BYU will be a #3 or 4 somewhere else, and SD State (which, again is a really good team) will be #2 west.

KU going west would be a complete f**king disaster. Fortunately, we took care of business today and wont have to worry about it, the west region is someone else's problem.

What seed do you think Washington will get?

Buck
03-12-2011, 06:58 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but if the MWC has 3 teams making it, then all 3 have to be in different regions, right? So BYU or UNLV won't be in the west.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 06:58 PM
What seed do you think Washington will get?

#6, at best. Probably one of the dreaded 8/9 ejection seats of the tournament.

alnorth
03-12-2011, 07:03 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but if the MWC has 3 teams making it, then all 3 have to be in different regions, right? So BYU or UNLV won't be in the west.

not necessarily. The rule is that each team from the same conference must be in seperate halves of a region, until that is no longer possible. (in that case, if a conference gets 9 or more bids like the big east this year, they still must at least keep you separated by quarters of regions so you cant meet until the end of the first weekend) So, it is theoretically possible (but not likely) that 1 team from a conference is placed in one region, 2 from the conference is placed on opposite sides of another region, and none in the other two regions.

As far as the committee is concerned, if you are a #1 or #2, they will seed-protect you until the elite eight games, and for all teams they will conference-protect you up to the sweet-16 games, then there's no guarantee.

Buck
03-12-2011, 09:04 PM
Louisville down 1 to UConn inbounding with 27 sec left with the title on the line.

Buck
03-12-2011, 09:09 PM
Louisville shooting 3 FTs to tie it up with 4 sec left....made first, missed second...needs to miss now

Buck
03-12-2011, 09:11 PM
UConn wins it...they were looking like a 5 seed before the tourney but maybe a 2 or 3 now.

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 10:05 PM
If Boise St. somehow pulls this off, a bubble spot is lost.

KC_Connection
03-12-2011, 10:28 PM
Utah St. wins.

This means that only Dayton winning tomorrow in the A10 could take a spot away.

Here are Lunardi's latest projections (which really can't change much anymore, as only Penn State is left).

LAST BYES (avoid First Four games in Dayton)

Michigan
Michigan State
Colorado
Penn State

LAST FOUR IN

Saint Mary's
Clemson
Virginia Tech
USC

FIRST FOUR OUT

Alabama
Georgia
Boston College
UAB

NEXT OUT

Harvard
Missouri State
VCU

Buck
03-12-2011, 11:45 PM
Jimmer is a sore loser.

Immediately after the game, Leonard told a reporter that Fredette reminded him of BYU's four-game winning streak over the Aztecs the past two seasons. Later, when asked about it during a news conference, Leonard said there was mutual respect and that they told each other that "both teams played hard."

source:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con....1031206002.html

http://i.imgur.com/nXlmx.gif

baitism
03-13-2011, 12:14 AM
Jimmer is sexually frustrated.


FYP

|Zach|
03-13-2011, 12:17 AM
Jimmer is a sore loser.

Immediately after the game, Leonard told a reporter that Fredette reminded him of BYU's four-game winning streak over the Aztecs the past two seasons. Later, when asked about it during a news conference, Leonard said there was mutual respect and that they told each other that "both teams played hard."

source:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con....1031206002.html

http://i.imgur.com/nXlmx.gif

You guys need to bring Wesley Stokes out of retirement.

Buck
03-13-2011, 12:21 AM
You guys need to bring Wesley Stokes out of retirement.

That guy was a scrub.

KC_Connection
03-13-2011, 12:30 AM
Too bad, Jimmer. Next time don't go to an archaic religious school if you want to win a championship.

|Zach|
03-13-2011, 12:56 AM
That guy was a scrub.

Show some god damned respect to the hair assface.

3rd&48ers
03-13-2011, 09:05 AM
Carolina & Dook for the ACC Championship at 1pm

alnorth
03-13-2011, 09:22 AM
Here are Lunardi's latest projections (which really can't change much anymore, as only Penn State is left).

Lunardi always changes his mind on several teams in the last day. He'd probably say that he gave everyone one last serious look, while others might say he's got an inside source.

DJay23
03-13-2011, 10:41 AM
Carolina & Dook for the ACC Championship at 1pm

Cool sig

3rd&48ers
03-13-2011, 10:52 AM
Cool sig

Thanks.... Good Luck to you guys in the Big Dance, hope to play you guys close to the end :thumb:

Buck
03-13-2011, 10:53 AM
What time is the selection show on?

3rd&48ers
03-13-2011, 10:55 AM
What time is the selection show on?

usually 630 or 7 est I think

kstater
03-13-2011, 11:03 AM
What time is the selection show on?

5 CST

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2011, 11:11 AM
Vitale said Duke deserves a 1 seed no matter what. He really loves them huh.

3rd&48ers
03-13-2011, 11:15 AM
Vitale said Duke deserves a 1 seed no matter what. He really loves them huh.

If Carolina is ranked 5 or 6 in the Nation and beats Duke 2 times in a row and wins the Acc Regular season and Tourney and they give Duke a #1 seed that would be wrong...

Personally I do not think my Heels deserve a #1 this year even if they beat Dook again...

3rd&48ers
03-13-2011, 11:36 AM
Heels playing like Dog Squeeze

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2011, 11:39 AM
If Carolina is ranked 5 or 6 in the Nation and beats Duke 2 times in a row and wins the Acc Regular season and Tourney and they give Duke a #1 seed that would be wrong...

Personally I do not think my Heels deserve a #1 this year even if they beat Dook again...

I think you'll get it if they beat them. Do they really have to give two 1 seeds to two Big East teams?

WebGem
03-13-2011, 11:41 AM
I could seriously see Florida winning it all this year

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2011, 11:42 AM
Heels playing like Dog Squeeze

You can score with anyone. A 12 point lead is nothing after the comebacks you've had so far.

3rd&48ers
03-13-2011, 11:43 AM
I think you'll get it if they beat them. Do they really have to give two 1 seeds to two Big East teams?

Carolina does not deserve it, that Freshman point guard is showing why they are called Freshmen lately..

Maybe Sweet 16 for us if we get a good ass beating today, if we win today as lazy as they have looked the last 3 games, we will probably not make it to the sweet 16

BWillie
03-13-2011, 11:45 AM
Vitale said Duke deserves a 1 seed no matter what. He really loves them huh.

I somewhat agree. They are 7-2 over the top 50 RPI teams. For some reason we care about who is playing well now and if they have their star player. I find it terrible wrong to fault a team because a player got hurt, and if they are playing well lately. It should be body of work, and what you have "earned".

With that said, I'd still probably have to give Notre Dame or Pitt the #1 seeds. They just have too many big wins.

luv
03-13-2011, 11:53 AM
Heels playing like Dog Squeeze

Duke playing some good D, too.

3rd&48ers
03-13-2011, 11:53 AM
Carolina 9 Turnovers and shooting about 30%

Jeezus

luv
03-13-2011, 12:07 PM
5 CST

And what channel? CBS?

Al Bundy
03-13-2011, 12:13 PM
Dayton looks awful against Richmond.

PGM
03-13-2011, 12:19 PM
Scouted the mid majors, but waiting to see when the brackets come out as to which one knocks off the Beakers this season ;)

Rams Fan
03-13-2011, 12:29 PM
Dayton looks awful against Richmond.

Dayton's a POS.

Guru
03-13-2011, 12:45 PM
screw you dickie V

3rd&48ers
03-13-2011, 01:05 PM
Carolina got their ass kicked, they deserved it too....

Stewie
03-13-2011, 01:06 PM
Kentucky rolled Florida. They're going to be a scary match-up for anyone.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2011, 01:08 PM
Carolina got their ass kicked, they deserved it too....

I'm sure Vitale rubbed one out to it lol. Duke is Duke. Live by the three, die by the three. inconsistent D. They don't play well enough on D to afford to have a bad shooting day. They play one way and one way only and if someone messes that up, they lose.

doomy3
03-13-2011, 01:10 PM
Right now, Bracketology has KU in the Southwest Region with KU, North Carolina, Kentucky and Louisville as the top 4 seeds in the region. That seems like a brutal region.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2011, 01:11 PM
Right now, Bracketology has KU in the Southwest Region with KU, North Carolina, Kentucky and Louisville as the top 4 seeds in the region. That seems like a brutal region.

If we play like we did yesterday it won't matter. But that is a tough region indeed. We'll have earned the title if we win no doubt.

alnorth
03-13-2011, 01:12 PM
Right now, Bracketology has KU in the Southwest Region with KU, North Carolina, Kentucky and Louisville as the top 4 seeds in the region. That seems like a brutal region.

I wouldn't pay much attention to that. The best we can really expect the experts to do is figure out who is in, which regions the #1's and maybe the #2's will get, and roughly what seed everyone is at +/- 1 or 2 seeds.

Beyond that, it is just too hard to predict exactly who will be in each region, and the experts don't do a good job predicting that.

3rd&48ers
03-13-2011, 01:13 PM
I'm sure Vitale rubbed one out to it lol. Duke is Duke. Live by the three, die by the three. inconsistent D. They don't play well enough on D to afford to have a bad shooting day. They play one way and one way only and if someone messes that up, they lose.

You know, they say a loss never helps but as bad as the Tarheels played the last 3 days, they need some reality slapped back in their heads...

They aren't going far this year with a Fresh at point guard....
Duke will last until a team with a decent inside game meets them.

Guru
03-13-2011, 01:13 PM
Right now, Bracketology has KU in the Southwest Region with KU, North Carolina, Kentucky and Louisville as the top 4 seeds in the region. That seems like a brutal region.

Holy crap. I sure hope he's wrong.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2011, 01:15 PM
I wouldn't pay much attention to that. The best we can really expect the experts to do is figure out who is in, which regions the #1's and maybe the #2's will get, and roughly what seed everyone is at +/- 1 or 2 seeds.

Beyond that, it is just too hard to predict exactly who will be in each region, and the experts don't do a good job predicting that.

How do you think we match up with Kentucky?

Stewie
03-13-2011, 01:17 PM
Dang! The round mound of rebound is getting rounder.

alnorth
03-13-2011, 01:40 PM
How do you think we match up with Kentucky?

honestly not sure, I did not watch a single kentucky game this season.

Usually I watch a lot of basketball and roughly know what most of the top teams look like, but this year I was busy and mailed it in a bit. Saw several KU games, caught a few other odd games that looked interesting (seriously, SD State is a good team, I'll be stunned if they are out in the first weekend), and thats it.

Maybe that will help me in the office pool this year, since of course the ones who win that typically don't know what they are doing. For example, I'm seriously thinking about picking Richmond to the sweet 16 simply because having a spider as a mascot is cool. I have no idea if they are really any good or not.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2011, 02:08 PM
Question...If Ohio State loses are they still the #1 overall seed to the committee?

alnorth
03-13-2011, 02:11 PM
Question...If Ohio State loses are they still the #1 overall seed to the committee?

probably, unless the committee had us overall #1 all along. The reason we moved our championship game to saturday is because our championship game winner wasn't given any credit for the last win. They obviously have to have a plan ready to go for Penn State if they weren't already picked as an at-large, but if Ohio State is the overall #1 now, losing today wont change that.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2011, 02:16 PM
probably, unless the committee had us overall #1 all along. The reason we moved our championship game to saturday is because our championship game winner wasn't given any credit for the last win. They obviously have to have a plan ready to go for Penn State if they weren't already picked as an at-large, but if Ohio State is the overall #1 now, losing today wont change that.

I just don't see how they can be the #1 overall seed regardless of what happens. IMO, our body of work is a lot better. All the talk I've heard from the media is that OSU is the #1 overall seed, but that's the media. I just don't see how they get it after what we have done...but oh well lol

DJay23
03-13-2011, 02:19 PM
I just don't see how they can be the #1 overall seed regardless of what happens. IMO, our body of work is a lot better. All the talk I've heard from the media is that OSU is the #1 overall seed, but that's the media. I just don't see how they get it after what we have done...but oh well lol

KU has really been an afterthought through all of this. They always ask the experts who the number one is and it's always OSU despite the relative similarity in resume to KU. There is at least an argument there, but no one is having it.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2011, 02:43 PM
KU has really been an afterthought through all of this. They always ask the experts who the number one is and it's always OSU despite the relative similarity in resume to KU. There is at least an argument there, but no one is having it.

FWIW, Barkley isn't too high on OSU. He wants them to play a good team he says lol

Dunit35
03-13-2011, 02:53 PM
According to Joe lunardi, KSU should make it to the sweet sixteen as a six seed. Up against michigan state and winner plays BYU or Wofford. JMO

Mr. Plow
03-13-2011, 02:59 PM
According to Joe lunardi, KSU should make it to the sweet sixteen as a six seed. Up against michigan state and winner plays BYU or Wofford. JMO

Did you see that bracket? 1 - ND; 2 - Duke; 3 - BYU; 4 - Wisconsin; 5 - Arizona ; 6- KSU. lol

kstater
03-13-2011, 03:04 PM
So is this the preemptive KU gets the hardest bracket thread?

alnorth
03-13-2011, 03:12 PM
So is this the preemptive KU gets the hardest bracket thread?

This isn't phog.net, I'm a huge KU fan but there have been years where I looked at it and said "sweet, looks easy!" (faceplant in the 2nd round), or "eh, about right, glad we're not in that other bracket", and then years where I thought we got screwed.

Mr. Plow
03-13-2011, 03:14 PM
So is this the preemptive KU gets the hardest bracket thread?

The preemptive whining about the KU fans whining begins.

alnorth
03-13-2011, 03:16 PM
That said, be prepared for people to yell about how easy the southeast is.

BYU can only play in the West or the Southeast, they wont get the West because SD State probably has that locked up, and like them or not, those wacky mormons wont fall past the top 4 seeds so they'll probably be a 3 or 4 in the southeast. Hopefully that bracket gets a monster #2 to balance it out. If Duke does fail to get a 1 seed, I want them to be in the southeast to balance that bracket out.

kstater
03-13-2011, 03:18 PM
The preemptive whining about the KU fans whining begins.

Death taxes and...

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2011, 03:29 PM
Barkley thinks KU is the #1 overall seed. We can have a bad game and still win. OSU can't.

DJay23
03-13-2011, 03:30 PM
FWIW, Barkley isn't too high on OSU. He wants them to play a good team he says lol

Yep, Barkley just said he'd pick KU to win it all right now. Thinks our depth is the biggest advantage we have over Ohio State. He thinks we can play bad and still win.

alnorth
03-13-2011, 03:32 PM
Lunardi is going to release his final bracket soon. Will be interesting to see why he abruptly put someone in/out at the last moment when he had them out/in for weeks. (furtive e-mail sent by a committee member?)

He does that almost every year, and almost every year his confusing last-second switches end up being right.

alnorth
03-13-2011, 03:40 PM
interesting. I think Lunardi basically changed nothing. If he had a source in the past, perhaps they are no longer in the committee.

WilliamTheIrish
03-13-2011, 03:42 PM
Frank gettin CBS face time. Love that man.
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WilliamTheIrish
03-13-2011, 03:44 PM
JFC, the brackets aren't even out yet. Save it for 15 minutes at least.
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KC_Connection
03-13-2011, 03:44 PM
Angry Coach is pretty calm on CBS.

kstater
03-13-2011, 03:44 PM
LMAO Frank telling the media to fuck off.