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The Mad Crapper
03-11-2011, 01:25 PM
Stick a fork in it, we're done. This country is so fucked it's not even funny...

House Leadership Let Obamacare Expansion Pass

Posted by Russ Vought (Profile)

Wednesday, March 9th at 4:31PM EST

62 Comments
Yesterday, House Republican Leadership allowed a bill to come to the floor of the House to expand the scope of an Obamacare program. The bill passed by a vote of 280-138—with 95 Republican votes.

The Veterinary Public Health Amendments Act (HR 525), introduced by Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), would increase the number of veterinarians with public health training via federal subsidies. One of the bill’s provisions expands the Public Health Workforce Loan Repayment Program—a loan program created in Obamacare (Title V, Section 5204)—to include veterinarians in the definition of eligible public health officials.

After Obamacare was enacted, Democrats recognized that the loan program would not cover veterinarians and so they passed legislation late last year to expand its scope. According to an alert sent out by the conservative Republican Study Committee:

In the last Congress, H.R. 2999 attempted to expand eligibility for this loan repayment program to veterinarian public health professionals. The bill passed by voice vote in the early morning hour (1AM) of September 30, 2010, shortly before Members were about to recess to campaign for the November election. The Senate did not act on the bill….

Now, H.R. 2999 has resurfaced this Congress. Its exact text is reflected in H.R. 525 that is scheduled for a vote on the floor….At a time when conservatives are looking for federal programs to terminate, many Members may not want to expand eligibility for a federal health loan forgiveness program to any specialty group, especially for a program that Obamacare ushered in.

Why did 95 Republicans feel the need to expand the scope of Obamacare, even if at the margins? Why did Republican Leadership schedule the bill for a floor vote in the first place? Why are Republicans continuing to vote for these bills that expand government instead of looking to cut it?

http://www.redstate.com/russvought/2011/03/09/house-leadership-let-obamacare-expansion-pass/

Pitt Gorilla
03-11-2011, 01:29 PM
You are free to leave at any time.

patteeu
03-11-2011, 01:29 PM
Perplexing. I'm not ready to say all is lost, but I'd like to hear an explanation.

The Mad Crapper
03-11-2011, 01:36 PM
You are free to leave at any time.

Oh, I will. I have a splendid spread in Brazil.

Perplexing. I'm not ready to say all is lost, but I'd like to hear an explanation.

Pat, come on. They lied "vote for us we'll stop Obamacare". They aint gonna stop shit. They never intended to. This is all bullshit.

Mr. Kotter
03-11-2011, 01:37 PM
You are free to leave at any time.

Maybe he and BEP, and other tea party types, can get a discount on travel once the economy rebounds, and when Obama is re-elected, heh (Even if it will be mostly due to Republicans over-playing their hand and the lack of a serious challenger. Heck, I'd chip in if it included expatriation, and a one-way ticket to Greenland.)

patteeu
03-11-2011, 01:41 PM
Oh, I will. I have a splendid spread in Brazil.



Pat, come on. They lied "vote for us we'll stop Obamacare". They aint gonna stop shit. They never intended to. This is all bullshit.

Who lied? What did they actually say? There's a difference between having no intention or desire to stop something and being unable to stop it. I think it's unreasonable to expect ObamaCare to be completely repealed or even substantially altered before 2012 and even then only if Obama is defeated.

Mr. Kotter
03-11-2011, 01:41 PM
Oh, I will. I have a splendid spread in Brazil...

"Real estate" in Rio has been good for you, eh? :hmmm:

BucEyedPea
03-11-2011, 02:08 PM
Maybe he and BEP, and other tea party types, can get a discount on travel once the economy rebounds, and when Obama is re-elected, heh (Even if it will be mostly due to Republicans over-playing their hand and the lack of a serious challenger. Heck, I'd chip in if it included expatriation, and a one-way ticket to Greenland.)

:thumb:At least you commies are still willing to allow us to leave instead of keeping us in. Or is that planned for later when all the hosts you need for taxing are gone?ROFL

BucEyedPea
03-11-2011, 02:12 PM
"Real estate" in Rio has been good for you, eh? :hmmm:

Nah! He'll get a nice placed next to Giselle and Tom Brady's for when they visit for Carnival.

Modest places like this:

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Amnorix
03-11-2011, 02:12 PM
Why are veterinarians public health officials? :spock:

I'm ok with sponsoring, via subsidies, more public health officials --nurses and doctors, etc. But vets? WTF?

BucEyedPea
03-11-2011, 02:16 PM
Hmmmm?

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BucEyedPea
03-11-2011, 02:18 PM
Pat, come on. They lied "vote for us we'll stop Obamacare". They aint gonna stop shit. They never intended to. This is all bullshit.

It's called RINO love! Or I never met a RINO I didn't love so long as it's not a member of the Democratic party!

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BucEyedPea
03-11-2011, 02:24 PM
Why are veterinarians public health officials? :spock:

I'm ok with sponsoring, via subsidies, more public health officials --nurses and doctors, etc. But vets? WTF?

Because RINO's allowed it. Get it now? :harumph: ;) RINOs need vets for healthcare.

The Mad Crapper
03-11-2011, 02:27 PM
Nah! He'll get a nice placed next to Giselle and Tom Brady's for when they visit for Carnival.

Modest places like this:

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More luxurious places are available too:
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Close, but our living room is bigger. :p

Otter
03-11-2011, 02:53 PM
Anyone know a link as to individual votes? I'd like to know how my R reps voted.

HonestChieffan
03-12-2011, 05:53 PM
Why are veterinarians public health officials? :spock:

I'm ok with sponsoring, via subsidies, more public health officials --nurses and doctors, etc. But vets? WTF?

Many towns health inspectors are vet's.

The Mad Crapper
03-14-2011, 04:24 PM
At the House Rules Committee (on-cam, fed back live), House Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers (R-KY) tells his colleagues that it is impossible to "defund" the $105 billion in mandatory spending that was approved for the health care law that Reps. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) and Steve King (R-IA) are demanding.

BucEyedPea
03-14-2011, 04:27 PM
At the House Rules Committee (on-cam, fed back live), House Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers (R-KY) tells his colleagues that it is impossible to "defund" the $105 billion in mandatory spending that was approved for the health care law that Reps. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) and Steve King (R-IA) are demanding.

I hear he is a Prince of Pork for a Republican.

The Mad Crapper
03-14-2011, 04:35 PM
I hear he is a Prince of Pork for a Republican.

The quid pro quo merry go round continues.

Ugly Duck
03-14-2011, 05:06 PM
OMG! OMG! RINOs allow states to enact innovations to enhance health care! Commies! Socialists! How can they allow states to waive ObamaCare & enact health care reforms? OMG! OMG!

Empowering States to Innovate
Posted by Kathleen Sebelius on March 10, 2011 at 04:31 PM EDT

Just last week, President Obama told the nation’s governors: “If your State can create a plan that covers as many people as affordably and comprehensively as the Affordable Care Act does – without increasing the deficit – you can implement that plan, and we’ll work with you to do it. I’ve said before, I don’t believe that either party holds a monopoly on good ideas. And I will go to bat for whatever works, no matter who or where it comes from.”

If States can reform their health care systems earlier and better to meet the needs of their citizens, then they should have the flexibility to do so. Consistent with the proposed bipartisan “Empowering States to Innovate Act,” sponsored by Senators Ron Wyden, Scott Brown, Mary Landrieu, Ben Nelson, Joe Manchin, and Patrick Leahy, this Administration recognizes that each individual state is a powerful driving force behind their own health care.

Today, the Departments of Health and Human Services and the Treasury proposed rules outlining the steps States may pursue to move forward on their own strategies to ensure that all of their residents can obtain high quality, affordable health care. Specifically, the rules offered today suggest how a State can apply for an Innovation Waiver under the Affordable Care Act and, if approved, report on its progress.

State Innovation Waivers are designed to allow States to implement policies that differ from the new law so long as they:

* Provide coverage that is at least as comprehensive as the coverage offered under the Affordable Care Act.
* Make coverage at least as affordable as it would have been through the Affordable Care Act.
* Provide coverage to at least as many residents as the Affordable Care Act would have provided.
* Do not increase the Federal deficit.

The Innovation Waivers build on the flexibilities provided by the Affordable Care Act by giving States broader ability to innovate while also working to ensure that all Americans, no matter where they live, have access to affordable, quality health insurance. And these rules released today detail the content of the waiver application and how such proposals may be disclosed to the public, monitored, and evaluated. We welcome suggestions on how this process can be improved.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/03/10/empowering-states-innovate

The Mad Crapper
03-16-2011, 06:23 AM
Anyone know a link as to individual votes? I'd like to know how my R reps voted.

You'll love this:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/-204121-1.html