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HonestChieffan
03-20-2011, 06:40 AM
Interesting stuff


http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/uploads/flowchart-to-determine-if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion-e1300206446831-634x882.jpg

BucEyedPea
03-20-2011, 08:05 AM
What if someone just wants to express their opinion?
If so they shouldn't have to do all that.....that's for control freaks.

banyon
03-20-2011, 08:21 AM
Yeah, stuff like "providing evidence for arguments" and "using logic". We shouldn't have to do "all that!!!" :deevee:

Unless, of course, it's the other guys' argument, then BEP is perfectly fine with making such demands (without characterizing it as a "demand for a legal brief"), e.g., :

No it isn't. You're cherry-picking. The part I quoted is what applies. The rest gets read with that in mind because you can't separate a part from the whole.
They have violated their own charter and this is a BAD precedent for sovereignty—including ours.
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dirk please show your sources with a link...it sounds like someone's opinion who wants to go into Libya and is arguing mission creep

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=7502786#post7502786

Wait, Dirk shouldn't have to do "all that"! He should be able to just throw up sh*t against the wall and not have his source or claim challenged, right? Why did BEP demand a "legal brief"?

BucEyedPea
03-20-2011, 08:24 AM
You provide evidence for facts particularly, when they're in dispute.
Opinions are opinions and sometimes people just like to express their opinions sometimes with no intention of debating, parsing or discussing it.
There is nothing essentially wrong with that. In fact it's a right.
An opinion may or may not be based on fact. It is just an opinion. That's what you have confused.

Now get back into your courtroom where you are dealing with jailing or fining people if you're facts are wrong even when a judge renders an opinion.

banyon
03-20-2011, 08:34 AM
1 Day for "fake ignore" to be utilized.

And opinions aren't special. They are subject to scrutiny, as sometimes they are just flat wrong or silly. If you started wandering around here claiming 'We ought to re-institute slavery", should you be able to hide and say 'that's just my opinion, you can't challenge it, waaah!" True, opinions aren't subject to direct factual scrutiny, but most of politics is opinion about how things ought to be done. If it couldn't be discussed, we wouldn't even have a forum.

But typically when you've been challenged and whined about it, it's been about bizarre factual or just flat wrong factual claims like "the UN security council doesn't have the authority to authorize military force", "Lincoln endorsed mass rapings", "There's some weirdo people in Russia living to 150 years old", or misused Reagan quotes about Lebanon.

Mr. Kotter
03-20-2011, 09:24 PM
HCF...a whole lot of Republican and "tea-party" douchebags, subscribe to the posted flow-chart.

Good luck with that; not really.

:rolleyes: