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DJ's left nut
03-23-2011, 08:48 PM
Seems like this deserves its own thread. The news will start coming fast over the next week or two, IMO. Recruiting is a 365-day event and we can't afford to be rudderless for long.

My vote - Cuonzo Martin.

Discuss.

kstater
03-23-2011, 08:49 PM
Doc Sadler

milkman
03-23-2011, 08:49 PM
Phil Matthews.

dirk digler
03-23-2011, 08:51 PM
Norm Stewart

redhed
03-23-2011, 08:51 PM
Tubby Smith

Woodrow Call
03-23-2011, 08:54 PM
Cuonzo Martin

LiveSteam
03-23-2011, 08:55 PM
Doc Sadler

2 more years. :shrug:

chopper
03-23-2011, 08:56 PM
Cuonzo Martin


~

ChiefsCountry
03-23-2011, 08:57 PM
No you guys aren't taking Zo away from us.

BillSelfsTrophycase
03-23-2011, 08:58 PM
Quin Snyder

dirk digler
03-23-2011, 08:58 PM
Jerry Sloan

Predarat
03-23-2011, 09:04 PM
Kermit Davis

Rams Fan
03-23-2011, 09:06 PM
Tony Benford

BillSelfsTrophycase
03-23-2011, 09:07 PM
Didn't Larry Brown say he was interested in getting back into college coaching?

That would be interesting

Al Bundy
03-23-2011, 09:07 PM
You better call Billy Donovan.

dirk digler
03-23-2011, 09:07 PM
Herm Edwards

Saul Good
03-23-2011, 09:10 PM
Mitch Holthus suggested Matt Painter. He said that Purdue is notoriously cheap when it comes to paying coaches.

Short of that, Josh Pastner of Memphis or Brad Stevens of Butler would be great. I wouldn't be against Tim Floyd, either. Also, Bill Self.

milkman
03-23-2011, 09:12 PM
Also, Bill Self.

LMAO

BillSelfsTrophycase
03-23-2011, 09:14 PM
Also, Bill Self.

Great choice, too bad you guys didn't make it in '03 LMAO

Rams Fan
03-23-2011, 09:15 PM
Great choice, too bad you guys didn't make it in '99 LMAO

FYP

Chocolate Hog
03-23-2011, 09:16 PM
Matt Sutherland

TrebMaxx
03-23-2011, 09:18 PM
Kim Anderson

redhed
03-23-2011, 09:18 PM
Travis Ford

dirk digler
03-23-2011, 09:19 PM
Mitch Holthus suggested Matt Painter. He said that Purdue is notoriously cheap when it comes to paying coaches.

Short of that, Josh Pastner of Memphis or Brad Stevens of Butler would be great. I wouldn't be against Tim Floyd, either. Also, Bill Self.

I hope you are just joking about Tim Floyd.

CrazyPhuD
03-23-2011, 09:20 PM
Geno Auriemma

Beerthirty
03-23-2011, 09:25 PM
Matt and Flip Presseys dad.

baitism
03-23-2011, 09:30 PM
Brad Brownell

Ceej
03-23-2011, 09:32 PM
BRUCE PEARRRLLLLLLL.

He'd hang out in the student shit body painted in baby shit brown.


EPIC.

Reerun_KC
03-23-2011, 09:34 PM
Herm Edwards

luv
03-23-2011, 09:40 PM
I feel like I've missed something.

KChiefs1
03-23-2011, 09:52 PM
Brad Stevens

CoMoChief
03-23-2011, 10:07 PM
Brad Stevens

Who's Wichita St' coach? I see MU going the mid-major route.

Rams Fan
03-23-2011, 10:09 PM
Who's Wichita St' coach? I see MU going the mid-major route.

Greg Marshall. Do not want.

CoMoChief
03-23-2011, 10:18 PM
Brad Stevens

Everyone and their mother wants this guy...I don't see this happening.

the Talking Can
03-23-2011, 10:26 PM
Bruce Weber

Saulbadguy
03-23-2011, 10:27 PM
Herb Sendek.

Saulbadguy
03-23-2011, 10:28 PM
Andy Kennedy.

Saulbadguy
03-23-2011, 10:28 PM
Anthony Grant.

Saulbadguy
03-23-2011, 10:29 PM
Jim Les

Saulbadguy
03-23-2011, 10:29 PM
Kelvin Sampson

Stanley Nickels
03-23-2011, 10:31 PM
I'm slowly leaning towards Cuonzo Martin as being a viable candidate. I think he should be a third choice, but wouldn't be upset at the hire. I've been pretty off lately with my opinions of people, though, so who knows.

Saulbadguy
03-23-2011, 10:32 PM
Scott Sutton

Saulbadguy
03-23-2011, 10:34 PM
Reggie Witherspoon

Saulbadguy
03-23-2011, 10:35 PM
Isaiah Thomas

Woodrow Call
03-23-2011, 10:35 PM
Katz's speculation

Dave Rose (BYU)
Cuonzo Martin (MSU)
Chris Mooney (Richmond)

http://espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6249515

Rams Fan
03-23-2011, 10:39 PM
Katz's speculation

Dave Rose (BYU)
Cuonzo Martin (MSU)
Chris Mooney (Richmond)

http://espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6249515

I'd be happy with any of those 3.

No homo.

DMAC
03-23-2011, 10:39 PM
Barry Hinson

Mizzou_8541
03-23-2011, 10:50 PM
Gervino said Scott Sutton was on Mizzou's short list. If we go with him I am swearing off of Mizzou basketball.

Mr. Arrowhead
03-23-2011, 10:51 PM
I dont think Martin leaves Missouri state unless its a big ten school

DJ's left nut
03-23-2011, 10:57 PM
I dont think Martin leaves Missouri state unless its a big ten school

Horseshit.

If any major conference program comes calling, he goes.

At SMS he's always 1 or 2 bad recruiting classes away from being completely irrelevant. He'd be absolutely foolish not to strike when the iron is hot if a major conference school offers him a job.

Rams Fan
03-23-2011, 11:08 PM
Gervino said Scott Sutton was on Mizzou's short list. If we go with him I am swearing off of Mizzou basketball.

He also said Painter and Gregory are candidates, no?

Mizzou_8541
03-23-2011, 11:13 PM
He also said Painter and Gregory are candidates, no?

Correct. But he made it seem like they were behind Sutton.

Rams Fan
03-23-2011, 11:16 PM
Correct. But he made it seem like they were behind Sutton.

If that's the case, shit.

Woodrow Call
03-23-2011, 11:17 PM
Correct. But he made it seem like they were behind Sutton.

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/kurtstillwell/fozziefacepalm.gif

Discuss Thrower
03-24-2011, 12:07 AM
No you guys aren't taking Zo away from us.

Problem with that is he's the lowest paid coach in the MVC... If my sources are correct, which they may well not be.

Stanley Nickels
03-24-2011, 12:09 AM
140K base, compensation up to 300K.


LOL

Trevo_410
03-24-2011, 12:17 AM
if we got the dude from butler, I'd totally jizz in my pants.

no homo:grovel:

Stanley Nickels
03-24-2011, 12:18 AM
if we got the dude from butler, I'd totally jizz in my pants.

no homo:grovel:

Hello, Señor Latetotheparty, Brad Stevens isn't coming here. But I appreciate the gesture.

Trevo_410
03-24-2011, 12:30 AM
Hello, Señor Latetotheparty, Brad Stevens isn't coming here. But I appreciate the gesture.

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Woodrow Call
03-24-2011, 12:40 AM
Dickie V says

@DickieV Dick Vitale
Let me get a little word on on Missouri job - an excellent choice would be Cuonzo Martin of Missouri St.
2 hours ago via Twitter for Android

Ebolapox
03-24-2011, 12:47 AM
eh, 140k in springfield is like 400k most places. if memory serves, we have the lowest cost of living in the country (or damned close)... that said, he'd be a great get for mizzou and is highly underpaid here.

Mosbonian
03-24-2011, 01:02 AM
I'd say hire someone who wants to stay....and then pay him like you do.

Oh....and as for Kim Anderson, no way. I just don't think he has what it takes to coach Div 1

patteeu
03-24-2011, 01:47 AM
Travis Ford

:$2500:

Jewish Rabbi
03-24-2011, 02:27 AM
Dick Vitale

Rudy lost the toss
03-24-2011, 03:49 AM
Melvin Watkins

0-16 was a fluke

OnTheWarpath58
03-24-2011, 07:03 AM
Not a basketball or Mizzou fan in the slightest, but I'm thinking Cuonzo Martin might be the best choice.

It would be a complete overhaul system-wise, so you'd have to be patient, but I think he's the best and most realistic option.

siberian khatru
03-24-2011, 07:13 AM
Not a basketball or Mizzou fan in the slightest, but I'm thinking Cuonzo Martin might be the best choice.

It would be a complete overhaul system-wise, so you'd have to be patient, but I think he's the best and most realistic option.

One point about the system overhaul: That will be much easier to accomplish because a large chunk of the team is leaving after 2012. MU should have close to 10 schollies available in the next 2 years. That gives a new coach a huge opportunity to get all of "his" players in quickly and make a smooth transition.

FishingRod
03-24-2011, 07:42 AM
Snake Plissken.

kepp
03-24-2011, 07:49 AM
Besides the obvious home run that everyone wants but knows we won't get (Stevens), I like the idea of getting Martin.

kepp
03-24-2011, 07:50 AM
Gervino said Scott Sutton was on Mizzou's short list. If we go with him I am swearing off of Mizzou basketball.

Why on earth would he be on our short list? I hope this isn't true, but with our administration, I can see it happening.

eazyb81
03-24-2011, 07:55 AM
Dickie V says

@DickieV Dick Vitale
Let me get a little word on on Missouri job - an excellent choice would be Cuonzo Martin of Missouri St.
2 hours ago via Twitter for Android

Crap, now I don't want Martin.

eazyb81
03-24-2011, 07:56 AM
Why on earth would he be on our short list? I hope this isn't true, but with our administration, I can see it happening.

What exactly do you hate about Sutton?

He's not the sexiest name, but he's had a lot of success at Oral Roberts.

You're not thinking of his brother that fell on his face at OSU are you?

Saulbadguy
03-24-2011, 07:57 AM
What exactly do you hate about Sutton?

He's not the sexiest name, but he's had a lot of success at Oral Roberts.

You're not thinking of his brother that fell on his face at OSU are you?

Scott should bring Sean in as an assistant.

kepp
03-24-2011, 08:13 AM
What exactly do you hate about Sutton?

He's not the sexiest name, but he's had a lot of success at Oral Roberts.

You're not thinking of his brother that fell on his face at OSU are you?

Maybe I am.

duncan_idaho
03-24-2011, 09:15 AM
1a) Brad Stephens (They'll go after him, but he isn't leaving Butler for anything short of Indiana)
1b) Matt Painter (I've heard some weird things about him being unhappy/underpaid at Purdue, but he's probably just trying to get a pay raise)

And then a second tier that includes the unhappy Anthony Grant (Alabama), looking-to-upgrade programs Mark Fox (Georgia), up-and-comer Shaka Smart (VCU), and Gregg Marshall (WSU).

Cuonzo Martin is in the next tier (fallback tier). I think that's the worst Missouri will do, which is OK (but pretty 'meh' to me. Unproven, and doesn't have the rep of comparable unproven guys like Shaka Smart).

Martin and Smart have the most upside, but biggest risk.

siberian khatru
03-24-2011, 09:24 AM
1a) Brad Stephens (They'll go after him, but he isn't leaving Butler for anything short of Indiana)
1b) Matt Painter (I've heard some weird things about him being unhappy/underpaid at Purdue, but he's probably just trying to get a pay raise)

And then a second tier that includes the unhappy Anthony Grant (Alabama), looking-to-upgrade programs Mark Fox (Georgia), up-and-comer Shaka Smart (VCU), and Gregg Marshall (WSU).

Cuonzo Martin is in the next tier (fallback tier). I think that's the worst Missouri will do, which is OK (but pretty 'meh' to me. Unproven, and doesn't have the rep of comparable unproven guys like Shaka Smart).

Martin and Smart have the most upside, but biggest risk.

Why is Grant unhappy? He's been at Bama only 2 years and is well-paid.

Hire him, and you've got to keep an eye on Billy Donovan the whole time.

duncan_idaho
03-24-2011, 09:26 AM
Also, on Martin... If Missouri wants him, it will get him. The Tigers can triple his salary without breaking a sweat, he'd be at a major conference, and he'd have huge upgrades to his facilities and recruiting potential.

SMS is struggling to come up with booster money to raise him into the 750k range. If a major program comes calling, he'll be gone.

gblowfish
03-24-2011, 09:35 AM
If you're going to go with a small school guy, go with Kim Anderson at UCM Warrensburg. He's the "Anderson" they should have hired the first time. He's a Norm Stewart guy and has a bright future as a coach. Martin doesn't have that much experience. He needs about three more years in the Valley to prove himself.

Or how bout hiring Danny Manning from Kansas? That would signal the end of days...

ROYC75
03-24-2011, 09:36 AM
MU is ready for a system restore, Quinn Synder v. 2.

eazyb81
03-24-2011, 10:00 AM
1a) Brad Stephens (They'll go after him, but he isn't leaving Butler for anything short of Indiana)
1b) Matt Painter (I've heard some weird things about him being unhappy/underpaid at Purdue, but he's probably just trying to get a pay raise)

And then a second tier that includes the unhappy Anthony Grant (Alabama), looking-to-upgrade programs Mark Fox (Georgia), up-and-comer Shaka Smart (VCU), and Gregg Marshall (WSU).

Cuonzo Martin is in the next tier (fallback tier). I think that's the worst Missouri will do, which is OK (but pretty 'meh' to me. Unproven, and doesn't have the rep of comparable unproven guys like Shaka Smart).

Martin and Smart have the most upside, but biggest risk.

Grant is already making $1.8MM at Bama and hasn't really done anything there. I'd also prefer to get away from the full press style - it has left a bad taste in my mouth since suitcase mike left.

I think Smart and Martin are in the same tier; I am weary of Smart, a guy no one would be talking about right now if the NCAA didn't gift him a spot in the tourney.

The Gene Keady tree has a very strong track record, which helps reassure me on Martin. Also you'd have to think he would dominate St. Louis recruiting, something Mizzou has never been able to do.

Mile High Mania
03-24-2011, 11:11 AM
Pelphrey is available...

Saulbadguy
03-24-2011, 11:13 AM
To TIGERBOARD!

Mile High Mania
03-24-2011, 11:26 AM
Anyone made a Tiger Blood reference yet?

gblowfish
03-24-2011, 11:42 AM
Anyone made a Tiger Blood reference yet?

Charlie Sheen would make a good coach. He has Tiger Blood...

Reaper16
03-24-2011, 12:43 PM
1a) Brad Stephens (They'll go after him, but he isn't leaving Butler for anything short of Indiana)
1b) Matt Painter (I've heard some weird things about him being unhappy/underpaid at Purdue, but he's probably just trying to get a pay raise)

And then a second tier that includes the unhappy Anthony Grant (Alabama), looking-to-upgrade programs Mark Fox (Georgia), up-and-comer Shaka Smart (VCU), and Gregg Marshall (WSU).

Cuonzo Martin is in the next tier (fallback tier). I think that's the worst Missouri will do, which is OK (but pretty 'meh' to me. Unproven, and doesn't have the rep of comparable unproven guys like Shaka Smart).

Martin and Smart have the most upside, but biggest risk.
This would be news to everyone in Tuscaloosa. Please stop talking out of your ass.

Saulbadguy
03-24-2011, 12:46 PM
In 1987, Grant became an assistant coach and math teacher at Miami Senior High School under Marcos "Shaky" Rodriguez.

Sound familiar? ;)

Ebolapox
03-24-2011, 12:48 PM
steve fisher from sandy eggo state?

Saulbadguy
03-24-2011, 12:48 PM
steve fisher from sandy eggo state?

lol, no

nychief
03-24-2011, 01:06 PM
This would be news to everyone in Tuscaloosa. Please stop talking out of your ass.


There are a lot of things that news to everybody in Tuscaloosa...the moon walk...the end of segregation... internet...

come on give the guy a break.

nychief
03-24-2011, 01:08 PM
steve fisher from sandy eggo state?


no. no. no.

|Zach|
03-24-2011, 01:09 PM
Gordon Bombay.

Saulbadguy
03-24-2011, 01:10 PM
Gordon Bombay.

Sorry dude, this is played out. Been done, many, many a time.

Reaper16
03-24-2011, 01:25 PM
There are a lot of things that news to everybody in Tuscaloosa...the moon walk...the end of segregation... internet...

come on give the guy a break.
I'm on the internet in Tuscaloosa right now. Boom, roasted.

patteeu
03-24-2011, 01:31 PM
I'm on the internet in Tuscaloosa right now. Boom, roasted.

Do you guys use slaves to run your internet down there?

Reaper16
03-24-2011, 01:33 PM
Do you guys use slaves to run your internet down there?
Yes.

kepp
03-24-2011, 02:28 PM
Yes.

Adrian Peterson?

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-24-2011, 02:35 PM
If you're going to go with a small school guy, go with Kim Anderson at UCM Warrensburg. He's the "Anderson" they should have hired the first time. He's a Norm Stewart guy and has a bright future as a coach. Martin doesn't have that much experience. He needs about three more years in the Valley to prove himself.

Or how bout hiring Danny Manning from Kansas? That would signal the end of days...

Anderson is ready in coaching DII, but Martin isn't in coaching DI??

Reaper16
03-24-2011, 02:39 PM
Anderson is ready in coaching DII, but Martin isn't in coaching DI??
I don't understand why gblowfish would limit the coaching search to guys who have been head coach for 6 or more years.

Rams Fan
03-24-2011, 02:40 PM
Some good discussion by Miklasz on 101 ESPN today.

http://www.101espn.com/post/81959_the_bernie_miklasz_show_notes_thursday_32411

Miklasz had Katz some guy from SI on his show talking about the Mizzou job, both said something like don't rule out Dave Rose from BYU.

Buehler445
03-24-2011, 02:46 PM
I seriously didn't know they fired Anderson. What for?
Posted via Mobile Device

Saulbadguy
03-24-2011, 02:49 PM
I seriously didn't know they fired Anderson. What for?
Posted via Mobile Device

:LOL:

Saulbadguy
03-24-2011, 02:49 PM
I don't understand why gblowfish would limit the coaching search to guys who have been head coach for 6 or more years.

"SLTH" - SOLID LONG TERM HIRE!!

Buehler445
03-24-2011, 02:50 PM
:LOL:

Fuck off dude. I've been in Hawaii for a week and a half. Sorry if I'm a little behind on rivals' activities.
Posted via Mobile Device

Rams Fan
03-24-2011, 02:51 PM
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx111/simon123_photo/Wiki.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Anderson_%28basketball%29

LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-24-2011, 03:13 PM
Thanks for the new sig.

Rams Fan
03-24-2011, 03:17 PM
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx111/simon123_photo/Wiki2.jpg

Haha.

Rams Fan
03-24-2011, 03:27 PM
Wiki just deleted that and this:

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx111/simon123_photo/Wiki3.jpg

Buehler445
03-24-2011, 03:42 PM
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx111/simon123_photo/Wiki2.jpg

Haha.

That is some funny shit.
Posted via Mobile Device

sedated
03-24-2011, 04:04 PM
I haven't been paying much attention, did Anderson really get $2.2 million? JFC, talk about playing your cards right. That guy was facing the hot seat, and parlayed it into getting one of the biggest paychecks of any college coach.

It reminds me of the Herm Jets-to-Chiefs situation. The Jets fans hated him and wanted him gone after ruining their franchise, so KingCarl did the smart thing and traded a drat pick for him.

CoMoChief
03-24-2011, 04:06 PM
I haven't been paying much attention, did Anderson really get $2.2 million? JFC, talk about playing your cards right. That guy was facing the hot seat, and parlayed it into getting one of the biggest paychecks of any college coach.

It reminds me of the Herm Jets-to-Chiefs situation. The Jets fans hated him and wanted him gone after ruining their franchise, so KingCarl did the smart thing and traded a drat pick for him.

MA wasn't by any means on the hot seat. The expectations in general for this club are.....finish in top half of the Big12, and make the NCAA dance in the post-season....and every now and then they may win a few games in the conf tourney, or as in 2009 they caught lightning in a bottle and won it.

duncan_idaho
03-24-2011, 04:08 PM
I'm on the internet in Tuscaloosa right now. Boom, roasted.

That wasn't out of my ass. It was based on something I heard from a former colleague of mine.

The Bad Guy
03-24-2011, 04:09 PM
LOL at Brad Stevens coming to Missouri.

If you could get Mooney, that'd be a great hire.

Reaper16
03-24-2011, 05:13 PM
That wasn't out of my ass. It was based on something I heard from a former colleague of mine.
Exactly one person has intimated that Anthony Grant is unhappy in Tuscaloosa: Knoxville, TN radio host Tony Basilio. UT fans are now running with that bullshit.

It's based on nothing. There are exactly zero indications residing in the realm of fact that indicate Anthony Grant is unhappy at Alabama.

Stanley Nickels
03-24-2011, 05:21 PM
Mooney is the absolute, polar-opposite of what we have in terms of talent and fit at Mizzou right now. I doubt he really gets so much as a look. Whether that's a good thing or not remains undecided, but I expect there will be some consideration for the seven seniors, at the very least.

-King-
03-24-2011, 05:33 PM
Anderson fucked on one thing though. He forgot to have a ESPN feature on him when he made The Decision.

siberian khatru
03-24-2011, 05:40 PM
Mooney is the absolute, polar-opposite of what we have in terms of talent and fit at Mizzou right now. I doubt he really gets so much as a look. Whether that's a good thing or not remains undecided, but I expect there will be some consideration for the seven seniors, at the very least.

Why would you base a coach hiring on a group of guys who will be gone after 2012? You get the best coach possible who can recruit, because he will have a bunch of scholarships to give out the next two years to find guys who will fit his system. There's gonna be tremendous roster turnover after next season, leaving only Dixon, Green, Kreklow and MAYBE Flip.

That's actually one of the biggest selling points MU has right now -- not many square pegs to jam into round holes after 2012. A new coach can put his stamp on the program pretty quickly.

It may result in a difficult senior season for those kids, but they should blame Anderson for that, not Alden. Alden has to hire a guy who is best for the program for the next 5-10 years, not for 2011-2012.

Stanley Nickels
03-24-2011, 06:06 PM
I agree. But let's assume you have Coach A and Coach 1-- and I use those terms to fully illustrate a later point-- both available and willing to accept the Missouri job. Let's further assume that you consider these guys relatively similar in your mind, as relates to "future job success", which we'll assume encapsulates recruiting, coaching, and academics.

Coach A has a long-term future at your school, and runs a system/philosophy that's generally similar to what's in place right now.

Coach 1 also would be in for the long-haul. He's equally as talented as Coach A, but believes in a style of basketball that would necessitate a full turnover of roster, even if a large portion of that roster is two years away from being gone.

Given this scenario-- and I don't think I've put so many "hypotheticals" in there to make it unrealistic-- I think you go with Coach A. The last thing Missouri basketball needs (IF it can be helped) is another rebuilding. We were put in a generally favorable position here, with decent talent on the roster and a team full of experienced and well-mannered upperclassmen.

If Mooney's head-and-shoulders above the rest, I'll support his hire just as though it were any other coach. But to say that you simply can't hire to scheme towards a current roster, doesn't always apply. There may be benefits.

Jerm
03-24-2011, 06:23 PM
LOL at Brad Stevens coming to Missouri.

If you could get Mooney, that'd be a great hire.

Do I think Stevens will come to Mizzou? Nope.

Do I think he'd at least listen and possibly consider it? Yeah I do...call me crazy. I'd throw insane money at him, 2.5 mil. and try to sell on him on the fact that he'll still be in the Midwest, he has a fertile recruiting ground, a strong team coming back, and that Indiana won't be open any time soon.

Again it'd be an extremely longshot but it'd be worth a shot.

Realistically, I personally think Mizzou can do a lot worse than Dave Rose.

Rams Fan
03-24-2011, 06:38 PM
Realistically, I personally think Mizzou can do a lot worse than Dave Rose.

I don't have a problem with Rose, but I'd rather have a coach who is in his early to mid 40's. Rose is in his early 50's.

patteeu
03-24-2011, 08:43 PM
Exactly one person has intimated that Anthony Grant is unhappy in Tuscaloosa: Knoxville, TN radio host Tony Basilio. UT fans are now running with that bullshit.

It's based on nothing. There are exactly zero indications residing in the realm of fact that indicate Anthony Grant is unhappy at Alabama.

No one likes being an afterthought basketball coach at a football school, except apparently Rick Barnes.

Reaper16
03-24-2011, 08:43 PM
No one likes being an afterthought basketball coach at a football school, except apparently Rick Barnes.
I didn't say Grant wouldn't take a better job. He's not unhappy though. He's just not.

Jewish Rabbi
03-24-2011, 10:30 PM
Bernie mentioned Ben Jacobsen in his article today... I'd be super happy to get him.

Rams Fan
03-24-2011, 10:32 PM
Bernie mentioned Ben Jacobsen in his article today... I'd be super happy to get him.

I think Bernie's on the Dave Rose/Cuonzo Martin band wagon.

Jewish Rabbi
03-24-2011, 10:34 PM
I think Bernie's on the Dave Rose/Cuonzo Martin band wagon.

He definitely is, Jacobsen was mentioned tho and I haven't heard anyone talk about him.

Rams Fan
03-24-2011, 10:39 PM
He definitely is, Jacobsen was mentioned tho and I haven't heard anyone talk about him.

I've seen him mentioned quite a few times on the PD's Mizzou Forum(not worth linking). Bernie has his own forum there, which I sometimes post in because he usually responds.

Another possibility could be Mick Cronin(sp?), the coach at Cincy.

eazyb81
03-25-2011, 07:02 AM
Bernie mentioned Ben Jacobsen in his article today... I'd be super happy to get him.

He just signed a 10 year contract last year.

I think he's an okay guy to look at, but his pedigree is not that impressive. He was an assistant for nobody coaches at North Dakota and UNI before getting the head UNI job last year.

If he didn't beat ku last year, would anyone know who he is?

kepp
03-25-2011, 07:44 AM
He just signed a 10 year contract last year.

I think he's an okay guy to look at, but his pedigree is not that impressive. He was an assistant for nobody coaches at North Dakota and UNI before getting the head UNI job last year.

If he didn't beat ku last year, would anyone know who he is?

Right. I've read a couple articles where his name was mentioned and the first thing they said was, "we know he can beat Kansas." We can't base our search on that.

Sure-Oz
03-25-2011, 09:12 AM
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/big-12-ad-mizzou-to-hire-coach-at-final-four-29586

Big 12 AD: Mizzou To Hire Coach At Final Four
Posted by Brooks on Mar. 25, 2011, 4:45am

Since I broke the news that Mike Anderson was departing Missouri for Arkansas, I’ve canvassed Big 12 athletic directors, conference officials and coaches about the resulting Mizzou basketball coaching search.

Scott Sutton not a candidate for Missouri Job

(ORU Coach Scott Sutton Will Not Be Considered By Mizzou)

A current Big 12 athletic director told me late Thursday to expect Missouri to move quickly, with a hire likely to come during the Final Four.

A Mizzou athletic department employee informed me Thursday that the school has assembled a search committee headed by athletic director Mike Alden and Executive Associate AD Whit Babcock. The committee is expected to meet early next week to discuss possible candidates. The same Columbia-based source also informed me that Missouri has retained executive search firm Eastman & Beaudine, the same firm that assisted in the hiring of Anderson.

I’m told that no candidates for the job have been contacted, but that Shaka Smart, Cuonzo Martin, David Gregory and Matt Painter are all expected to be considered and may be contacted. Other candidates may also be considered, depending on the level of interest and availability.

A current major college head coach told me today that Scott Sutton, despite multiple reports, will not be under consideration for the job. Yesterday I reported that Sutton had recently interviewed with Bradley and subsequently pulled himself out of the search process for the job.

DeezNutz
03-25-2011, 09:24 AM
Best name, which should count for a lot: Shaka.

eazyb81
03-25-2011, 09:26 AM
Shaka Smart seems like Stan Heath, Jr.

I want no part of that guy.

Sure-Oz
03-25-2011, 09:27 AM
Shaka Smart seems like Stan Heath, Jr.

I want no part of that guy.

Who's your top choice

DeezNutz
03-25-2011, 09:36 AM
Too much is being made in the media about "getting a Missouri guy."

Sure-Oz
03-25-2011, 09:38 AM
Too much is being made in the media about "getting a Missouri guy."

Yeah i dont get why thats so important...

I know they want to recruit better in state, just get the best guy

Sure-Oz
03-25-2011, 09:41 AM
Larry Drew is interested as well hmm

Extra Point
03-25-2011, 09:41 AM
Cuonzo Martin is the best choice. Capel wouldn't be bad, either; he was stuck with a team that he couldn't coach. (That said, Martin vs. Martin would be good for at least one game a year.)

Woodrow Call
03-25-2011, 09:41 AM
My order of preference

1. Painter
2. Martin
3. Gregory
4. Smart

duncan_idaho
03-25-2011, 09:56 AM
Cuonzo Martin is the best choice. Capel wouldn't be bad, either; he was stuck with a team that he couldn't coach. (That said, Martin vs. Martin would be good for at least one game a year.)

Without Blake Griffin on his team, Jeff Capel went: 43-51, 15-33 as a Big 12 coach.

He had double-digit losses in each of his Griffin-less Big 12 seasons.

There's also all the trouble with rules broken under Capel's watch, and the fact that he was not well liked in the state of Texas and really struggled recruiting there. I think he's going to have to go back to a mid-major and prove himself again before he gets another major-conference look.

Matt Painter is the best choice, IMO. If you can get him to leave behind Robbie Hummel, I think Missouri will pay the money to get him. I'll point out that he's finished no worse than second in the Big 10 over the past four years, and he has won coach of the year honors multiple times in that span. What's not to love about that?

DeezNutz
03-25-2011, 10:00 AM
Why would Painter come to Mizzou? Money? What else?

Sure-Oz
03-25-2011, 10:09 AM
Why would Painter come to Mizzou? Money? What else?

Kim English's poetry?

DeezNutz
03-25-2011, 10:14 AM
Kim English's poetry?

If we're going to get a high-quality coach, you're going to have to start Tweeting nicely. This is on you. No pressure.

Sure-Oz
03-25-2011, 10:16 AM
If we're going to get a high-quality coach, you're going to have to start Tweeting nicely. This is on you. No pressure.

I'm pretty sure my tweet to English caused this whole domino effect with Anderson....

I'm sure Kim went sobbing to his office and Mike told him to block me, then Mike blocked him and the team

My tweets are getting nicer, im tryin loll

siberian khatru
03-25-2011, 10:27 AM
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/big-12-ad-mizzou-to-hire-coach-at-final-four-29586


I’m told that no candidates for the job have been contacted, but that Shaka Smart, Cuonzo Martin, David Gregory and Matt Painter are all expected to be considered and may be contacted. Other candidates may also be considered, depending on the level of interest and availability.


I assume he meant BRIAN Gregory of Dayton, not the NBC News guy.

eazyb81
03-25-2011, 10:32 AM
Who's your top choice

Honestly I have no idea.

I am much better at picking out each candidate's flaws then picking which one is the best.

I am pretty underwhelmed by the available pool. Cuonzo Martin is intriguing, but could also be an epic bust.

DeezNutz
03-25-2011, 10:34 AM
I would have a conversation with Pearl. Not saying I'd hire him.

DMAC
03-25-2011, 10:34 AM
Honestly I have no idea.

I am much better at picking out each candidate's flaws then picking which one is the best.

I am pretty underwhelmed by the available pool. Cuonzo Martin is intriguing, but could also be an epic bust.

Mizzou can do so much better than Cuonzo. Not saying he is a bad coach, but really, who the hell knows. And Mizzou can do better than a "who the hell knows" coach.

eazyb81
03-25-2011, 10:36 AM
Why would Painter come to Mizzou? Money? What else?

No idea.

I honestly don't know why we could even trust him if he left his alma mater and a program he was groomed to takeover by his mentor, Gene Keady, for a few bucks more at a similar program.

Al Bundy
03-25-2011, 10:37 AM
Bruce Pearl should be at the very least talked to.

eazyb81
03-25-2011, 10:38 AM
Mizzou can do so much better than Cuonzo. Not saying he is a bad coach, but really, who the hell knows. And Mizzou can do better than a "who the hell knows" coach.

People keep saying this, but I still haven't heard any realistic candidate that is definitely better.

Matt Painter, Jamie Dixon, and Jay Wright are not happening.

However, there could very well be a candidate that no one is even talking about yet.

siberian khatru
03-25-2011, 10:38 AM
Honestly I have no idea.

I am much better at picking out each candidate's flaws then picking which one is the best.

I am pretty underwhelmed by the available pool. Cuonzo Martin is intriguing, but could also be an epic bust.

Hahah, I'm the same way.

And I agree on Cuonzo. Probably the biggest boom/bust guy of the bunch.

I just saw a video of him Dave Matter posted on Twitter, I guess it was him accepting the SMS job at the press conference. He started by thanking his mother and broke down crying. He finally recovered and told a story about how, when he was growing up in E. St. Louis, his mother would take him and his siblings to open houses in Chesterfield, and they'd lie in the beds and she would tell them, basically, You can't have this now, but this is what you can dream about and work toward.

As Matter said, it says nothing about his coaching ability, but from a human standpoint it was quite compelling and moving. The rest of the "thank yous" were pretty impressive too. Cuonzo certainly carries himself well.

DeezNutz
03-25-2011, 10:39 AM
Mizzou can do so much better than Cuonzo. Not saying he is a bad coach, but really, who the hell knows. And Mizzou can do better than a "who the hell knows" coach.

My stance, too. Big time risk with Martin, and I don't think his resume to this point justifies it.

Stevens is a fantasy, obviously, but if you're willing to give Anderson 2, be prepared to go 2-2.5 to get a more legit candidate (after forcing Stevens to turn down 2.5-3).

DeezNutz
03-25-2011, 10:40 AM
Hahah, I'm the same way.

And I agree on Cuonzo. Probably the biggest boom/bust guy of the bunch.

I just saw a video of him Dave Matter posted on Twitter, I guess it was him accepting the SMS job at the press conference. He started by thanking his mother and broke down crying. He finally recovered and told a story about how, when he was growing up in E. St. Louis, his mother would take him and his siblings to open houses in Chesterfield, and they'd lie in the beds and she would tell them, basically, You can't have this now, but this is what you can dream about and work toward.

As Matter said, it says nothing about his coaching ability, but from a human standpoint it was quite compelling and moving. The rest of the "thank yous" were pretty impressive too. Cuonzo certainly carries himself well.

Another reason I will never have an open house.

Sure-Oz
03-25-2011, 10:40 AM
My stance, too. Big time risk with Martin, and I don't think his resume to this point justifies it.

Stevens is a fantasy, obviously, but if you're willing to give Anderson 2, be prepared to go 2-2.5 to get a more legit candidate (after forcing Stevens to turn down 2.5-3).

I'd hope they'd atleast make the offers

the Talking Can
03-25-2011, 10:41 AM
it would be a huge publicity hit


but Pearl is the guy

yeah, he's a bit of a scum bag and dumbass for lying to the NCAA..but he has proven he can recruit top 30 talent...and recruiting is the #1 skill your coach has to have...


if you want to be cut throat about it....

DMAC
03-25-2011, 10:41 AM
Another reason I will never have an open house.

NO SHIT DUDE!

DeezNutz
03-25-2011, 10:42 AM
it would be a huge publicity hit


but Pearl is the guy

yeah, he's a bit of a scum bag and dumbass for lying to the NCAA..but he has proven he can recruit top 30 talent...and recruiting is the #1 skill your coach has to have...


if you want to be cut throat about it....

We prefer "nice guys." It's a state thing, apparently.

siberian khatru
03-25-2011, 10:42 AM
Another reason I will never have an open house.

YOU'RE DENYING THE NEXT CUONZO HIS DREAM!!!!!!!

DeezNutz
03-25-2011, 10:43 AM
YOU'RE DENYING THE NEXT CUONZO HIS DREAM!!!!!!!

Don't touch my shit. Thanks.

eazyb81
03-25-2011, 10:43 AM
Hahah, I'm the same way.

And I agree on Cuonzo. Probably the biggest boom/bust guy of the bunch.

I just saw a video of him Dave Matter posted on Twitter, I guess it was him accepting the SMS job at the press conference. He started by thanking his mother and broke down crying. He finally recovered and told a story about how, when he was growing up in E. St. Louis, his mother would take him and his siblings to open houses in Chesterfield, and they'd lie in the beds and she would tell them, basically, You can't have this now, but this is what you can dream about and work toward.

As Matter said, it says nothing about his coaching ability, but from a human standpoint it was quite compelling and moving. The rest of the "thank yous" were pretty impressive too. Cuonzo certainly carries himself well.

Yeah I saw that too. It was a video of him accepting the MVC coach of the year award a few weeks ago.

Basically the them was to believe in what you can't see right now - a good message to sell to recruits.

He definitely seems like he has the personality and character to be a big-time coach.

If there was any way we could get Gene Keady to leave St. Johns and come to Mizzou as an assistant for Martin, he would probably be my top choice.

the Talking Can
03-25-2011, 10:45 AM
We prefer "nice guys." It's a state thing, apparently.


i get it....I doubt KU would ever take such a 'hot' commodity either...


but if you want to win and win now, you do what Kentucky did and get the guy who recruits his ass off and worries about the NCAA second...

siberian khatru
03-25-2011, 10:46 AM
Yeah I saw that too. It was a video of him accepting the MVC coach of the year award a few weeks ago.



Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.

siberian khatru
03-25-2011, 10:48 AM
i get it....I doubt KU would ever take such a 'hot' commodity either...




I think there's "hot," and then there's "radioactive." I might take a chance on the former, but not the latter.

Sure-Oz
03-25-2011, 10:51 AM
Petro ranting on Mizzou....basically thinks mizzou likes to get their ass kicked not even giving pearl a chance. He feels mizzou wont choose a coach and try to win...i guess he wants pearl bad

eazyb81
03-25-2011, 10:51 AM
I think there's "hot," and then there's "radioactive." I might take a chance on the former, but not the latter.

Agree.

UT is going to get hit with big-time sanctions, and that is the sole reason Pearl was fired.

It seems like people outside TN don't realize this, but Nashville sports radio is saying the UT program is going to get hit with some of the worst sanctions the SEC has seen in awhile. There is talk of postseason probation, definite scholarship reductions, etc. Pearl could even get suspended by the NCAA.

Yeah, he wins, but he isn't going to be coaching at all for awhile.

baitism
03-25-2011, 10:51 AM
#1 priority should be recruiting. If Mizzou could keep even half their in-state talent they would be a perennial top 15 team.

If doing that takes Bruce Pearl, I am all for it. Who else is out there that is known for being able to recruit?

siberian khatru
03-25-2011, 10:52 AM
Pearl could even get suspended by the NCAA.

Yeah, he wins, but he isn't going to be coaching at all for awhile.

That's what I thought. I'm not even sure he's gonna be available to coach next year.

I think he's gonna have to shed his half-life for a year or two before he can be considered viable again.

eazyb81
03-25-2011, 10:56 AM
#1 priority should be recruiting. If Mizzou could keep even half their in-state talent they would be a perennial top 15 team.

If doing that takes Bruce Pearl, I am all for it. Who else is out there that is known for being able to recruit?

This is why I am intrigued by Martin. He is from St. Louis, has spent three years developing in-roads with Missouri high school and AAU coaches, and prior to this he spent 8 years recruiting the midwest for Purdue.

Eric Bossi has said that AAU coaches are ecstatic at the idea of Martin getting hired at Mizzou. If anyone can win back St. Louis, I think Martin has the best shot.

Sure-Oz
03-25-2011, 10:58 AM
This is why I am intrigued by Martin. He is from St. Louis, has spent three years developing in-roads with Missouri high school and AAU coaches, and prior to this he spent 8 years recruiting the midwest for Purdue.

Eric Bossi has said that AAU coaches are ecstatic at the idea of Martin getting hired at Mizzou. If anyone can win back St. Louis, I think Martin has the best shot.

That's why i like him as well, esp since Stevens, Pearl and Painter are not likely

Sure-Oz
03-25-2011, 11:13 AM
Apparently Petro is saying Mizzou may not allow players that have some sort of history. they must have 'nice' kids

Rams Fan
03-25-2011, 11:14 AM
Larry Drew is interested as well hmm

Bernie mentioned him on his show yesterday, but said that Alden would likely hire a coach who has been a HC in college.

chopper
03-25-2011, 11:16 AM
This is why I am intrigued by Martin. He is from St. Louis, has spent three years developing in-roads with Missouri high school and AAU coaches, and prior to this he spent 8 years recruiting the midwest for Purdue.

Eric Bossi has said that AAU coaches are ecstatic at the idea of Martin getting hired at Mizzou. If anyone can win back St. Louis, I think Martin has the best shot.

Agree, plus if we pluck a guy like this and give him his first shot at a big program he might remember that if it goes really well and other schools start calling.
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baitism
03-25-2011, 11:16 AM
This is why I am intrigued by Martin. He is from St. Louis, has spent three years developing in-roads with Missouri high school and AAU coaches, and prior to this he spent 8 years recruiting the midwest for Purdue.

Eric Bossi has said that AAU coaches are ecstatic at the idea of Martin getting hired at Mizzou. If anyone can win back St. Louis, I think Martin has the best shot.

Good to hear that. Mizzou really needs to get STL on lockdown. We hardly get anyone from there now.

Rams Fan
03-25-2011, 11:26 AM
Bernie posted this in his forum on the PD this morning about Painter:

If you read my coaching-list blog, I have some details in there.

Had this on Wednesday early in my show.

Delievered a comprehensive breakdown, backed by research and applicable Painter quotes, on Thursday's show.

Just so everyone knows the basis of this, I don't rely on saloon gossip for this type of information; we try to dig and do reporting; Vahe Gregorian and me have now verified through six independent sources that the interest is there.

Now, whether Painter's motives are pure, I do not know. Two people who have talked to him tell me that his motives are good and that he's not playing contract games; time will tell.

-B

http://interact.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=788414

Swanman
03-25-2011, 12:51 PM
I am jealous of Mizzou right now. I wish Illinois was going through a coaching search. I am tired of Weberball.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-25-2011, 01:23 PM
I can see the upside of Martin. Painter seems like a guy who would just use us for leverage. I don't see the downside in talking to Rose, but it just doesn't seem like there are a lot of home run candidates out there. That said, Bill Self was JAG when he left Tulsa.

eazyb81
03-25-2011, 02:12 PM
Latest from DeArmond:

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/1745

Sounds like the Painter interest has legs. It still is illogical to me why he would honestly make a lateral move for a bit more money.

Maybe he really does hate Purdue's administration.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-25-2011, 02:25 PM
Good that you can transfer the $550 k penalty from Anderson to a potential $750 k buyout for Painter.

A $200k buyout is not bad, and we could pay a better coach the same money we were going to pay Anderson.

Rams Fan
03-25-2011, 02:28 PM
Good that you can transfer the $550 k penalty from Anderson to a potential $750 k buyout for Painter.

A $200k buyout is not bad, and we could pay a better coach the same money we were going to pay Anderson.

I'm not saying that Painter is a bad coach, but he hasn't been past the Sweet 16 yet.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-25-2011, 02:30 PM
I'm not saying that Painter is a bad coach, but he hasn't been past the Sweet 16 yet.

And if it wasn't for Mike Anderson's players going absolutely out of their mind for the first 20 minutes of the Memphis game, he wouldn't have either.

Let's be honest, that half of basketball against Memphis made Anderson over $10 million bucks, and he really didn't have all that much to do with it.

That half was the equivalent of a 10 handicap shooting a 32 on the front 9

Hays
03-25-2011, 02:31 PM
Isn't he from Purdue? why would you ever want to leave your alma mater?

Rams Fan
03-25-2011, 02:32 PM
You know what? Fuck it. Matt Painter or bust.

eazyb81
03-25-2011, 02:33 PM
I'm not saying that Painter is a bad coach, but he hasn't been past the Sweet 16 yet.

I am much more excited about a coach that can build consistent regular season winning teams, than I am a coach that has had one fluke run in the tournament.

Painter has finished 1st or 2nd in the Big Ten four straight years.

Jewish Rabbi
03-25-2011, 02:36 PM
You know what? Fuck it. Matt Painter or bust.

God you're a pussy.

Rams Fan
03-25-2011, 02:37 PM
God you're a pussy.

I never said I didn't want Painter. I just said he hasn't been past the Sweet 16 yet.

YOU WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT?1101214SARCASMLOLWTFMMMBBQ

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-25-2011, 02:41 PM
Painter has shown that he can recruit. Anderson has shown that he is friends with people who give birth to good basketball players.

Painter's teams actually run an offense. Anderson's teams just hope for a layup line in transition.

Given some of the players he has gotten in, I don't think that Matt Painter would have lost out on Brad Beal and Ben McLemore, and potentially Otto Porter as well.

the Talking Can
03-25-2011, 02:46 PM
painter's lost his best player to injury 2 years straight....


they'd probably have an elite 8 if Hummel were healthy


haven't followed them closely, but his kids seem to play hard for him and winning a conference matters...it's proof you can coach

allen_kcCard
03-25-2011, 02:47 PM
Would it be completely outside the realm of reality to wish we could get someone like Martin into the system as a glorified Assistant that is the heir apparant?

It is said he might not be ready to jump from Mo St, but would be a coup as far as recruiting in MO for AAU and such. He has big time MO roots, so if he ends up head coach someday and excells, it stands to reason this would be his destination job and would be hard pressed to leave if everyone come calling.

If we make progress on someone like Painter, or someone that we aren't sure would be ready to stay here for the forseeable future, it would be great to have a guy that we know from within that we can move up and have recruits that want to play for him in the first place, sort of like Huggins and Martin as Kstate.

Hrm...although now that I look at Wiki, it looks like he worked for Painter before at Purdue and left to go to Mo St...so it would be going backwards to go from head coach there to working for him again at MU.

His ties to the state just seem to be a big thing to see lost as far as recruiting.

Jerm
03-25-2011, 03:07 PM
Matt Painter is the most realistic "home run" hire we can make as Stevens isn't coming here....will he leave Purdue, esp. with Hummel coming back next season? I wonder.

Interested to see Richmond tonight, we'll see how much of a viable candidate Mooney is.

Reaper16
03-25-2011, 03:43 PM
Look, an article that rivals that KU=America article in stupidity: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/columns/bill-mcclellan/article_b7a53fda-4213-58ad-b08a-9011431fecde.html

Rams Fan
03-25-2011, 03:45 PM
Look, an article that rivals that KU=America article in stupidity: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/columns/bill-mcclellan/article_b7a53fda-4213-58ad-b08a-9011431fecde.html

:facepalm:

Dude, McClellan writes articles like that as a joke. He did the same thing in the summer when he said the Cardinals should trade Pujols for Zambrano. He's not serious.

Reaper16
03-25-2011, 03:55 PM
:facepalm:

Dude, McClellan writes articles like that as a joke. He did the same thing in the summer when he said the Cardinals should trade Pujols for Zambrano. He's not serious.
I just read that Pujols column. He's not actually a Cubs fan, then?

Rams Fan
03-25-2011, 04:00 PM
I just read that Pujols column. He's not actually a Cubs fan, then?

I don't think he is. He writes articles like those from to time. A lot of people were caught off guard with the Pujols one, though.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-25-2011, 04:14 PM
Patches O'Hoolihan

kepp
03-25-2011, 04:17 PM
Patches O'Hoolihan

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.

Woodrow Call
03-25-2011, 04:21 PM
Update on one the guys on the "list"

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/georgia-tech-source-gregory-offered-hoops-job-29587

Georgia Tech Source: Gregory Offered Hoops Job

Scott Pilgrim
03-25-2011, 04:26 PM
As a SLU fan i pray that Gregory does not leave the A10 god damn he is an awful coach, great recruiter but easily one of the worst game coaches i have every seen

eazyb81
03-25-2011, 04:31 PM
Update on one the guys on the "list"

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/georgia-tech-source-gregory-offered-hoops-job-29587

Georgia Tech Source: Gregory Offered Hoops Job

Thank God. He was near the bottom of my list.

Seems like an extremely mediocre coach.

Woodrow Call
03-25-2011, 06:40 PM
http://blogs.news-leader.com/msu/2011/03/25/martin-says-job-speculation-a-disservice/

Martin says Mizzou job speculation a “disservice”
Posted on March 25, 2011 by Lyndal Scranton

Missouri State’s Cuonzo Martin met with the local media late this afternoon and refuted a Kansas City Star report from earlier today that, citing an unnamed source, the University of Missouri had contacted him about its basketball-coaching vacancy.

“Nobody from Missouri has contacted me, whatsoever,” Martin said. “No search firm has contacted me about Missouri. Bottom line.”

Martin, 61-41 in three seasons at MSU, said it was important to get the correct information out.

“It’s a disservice to Missouri State, our fans, the players on my team and our current recruits,” Martin said.

At the same time, Martin said having his name in the rumor mill is a signal that the Bears’ program is doing things right.

“It’s unfortunate, but is it a good problem to have? Yes, because it means we’re successful,” Martin said.

Martin declined to directly address if other schools with openings — Georgia Tech, Oklahoma, North Carolina State among others — had contacted him. He has not directly been linked to any of those openings so far.

Martin, 39, said considering the so-called “big job isn’t always the best job.”

“I have to do what’s best for my family. This is a great situation for my family,” Martin said of being at MSU. “It’s not a case of X amount of dollars. When I took this job, it wasn’t about the dollars.

“It’s about being successful as a program. It’s about putting yourself in the best place to be successful.”

Martin said part of being successful is getting the Missouri Valley Conference back to being a multi-bid league. He said all league schools need to upgrade their schedule strengths to make that happens.

luv
03-25-2011, 07:04 PM
http://blogs.news-leader.com/msu/2011/03/25/martin-says-job-speculation-a-disservice/

Martin says Mizzou job speculation a “disservice”
Posted on March 25, 2011 by Lyndal Scranton

Missouri State’s Cuonzo Martin met with the local media late this afternoon and refuted a Kansas City Star report from earlier today that, citing an unnamed source, the University of Missouri had contacted him about its basketball-coaching vacancy.

“Nobody from Missouri has contacted me, whatsoever,” Martin said. “No search firm has contacted me about Missouri. Bottom line.”

Martin, 61-41 in three seasons at MSU, said it was important to get the correct information out.

“It’s a disservice to Missouri State, our fans, the players on my team and our current recruits,” Martin said.

At the same time, Martin said having his name in the rumor mill is a signal that the Bears’ program is doing things right.

“It’s unfortunate, but is it a good problem to have? Yes, because it means we’re successful,” Martin said.

Martin declined to directly address if other schools with openings — Georgia Tech, Oklahoma, North Carolina State among others — had contacted him. He has not directly been linked to any of those openings so far.

Martin, 39, said considering the so-called “big job isn’t always the best job.”

“I have to do what’s best for my family. This is a great situation for my family,” Martin said of being at MSU. “It’s not a case of X amount of dollars. When I took this job, it wasn’t about the dollars.

“It’s about being successful as a program. It’s about putting yourself in the best place to be successful.”

Martin said part of being successful is getting the Missouri Valley Conference back to being a multi-bid league. He said all league schools need to upgrade their schedule strengths to make that happens.

http://ozarksfirst.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=428786

(Springfield, MO) -- With his name swirling around college basketball as a hot coaching talent, Missouri State's Cuonzo Martin met with the media Friday.

It wasn't to address that situation, rather it was an opportunity to look back at a magical Bears season that was his best coaching job since arriving in Springfield three years ago.

Cuonzo Martin was able to blend a quartet of seniors with junior Kyle Weems, and freshman Nathan Scheer to take this team to 26 wins.

Missouri State won the valley's regular season championship for the first time ever, and advanced to the second round of the NIT Tournament.

Weems was named the valley's player of the year, while Cuonzo Martin was named coach of the year.

"Winning the valley championship was a great, great achievement for our guys. They did a great job with that. That's something you dream about. It's so hard to do -- to be the last team standing. I think our guys did a tremendous job with staying focus. The things they were able to accomplish I think speaks volumes to our program."

As for his name being mentioned with other coaching jobs being opened in the Midwest, Martin continues to say that neither himself nor his agent have been contacted by the University of Missouri or any other school for that matter.

But it's easy to see why the 39-year-old is high on everyone's candidate list.

In three years at Missouri State, Martin has taken the Bears from last place in the valley to regular season champs.

Last year's team won the CIT National Tournament, while this year's squad advanced to the second round of the NIT.

He says being a hot commodity is flattering.

"This is a good problem to have," he says. "I'm employed by Missouri State. This is where I want to be. I enjoy being here. I think I'd be doing a disservice if I talk about anybody else -- any speculation. That's all it is. No search firm has contacted me about Missouri. Bottom line."

Jerm
03-25-2011, 08:21 PM
Well I'll go ahead and cross Mooney's name off the list....

KCBOSS1
03-25-2011, 09:30 PM
I guess I'm just sitting and enjoying the idea of Anderson signing with Arkansas after listening to all of the CP bull about his moving to Arkansas being a demotion and he would never go to Arkansas....bla, bla, bla. You know, I don't hear many of us from Arkansas bashing Mizzou or Kansas, and in fact, I like both schools fine. But I've heard all kinds of ignorance bashing Arkansas fans, calling us arrogant, inbreds, etc.....just curious about the double standards there.

|Zach|
03-25-2011, 09:43 PM
I guess I'm just sitting and enjoying the idea of Anderson signing with Arkansas after listening to all of the CP bull about his moving to Arkansas being a demotion and he would never go to Arkansas....bla, bla, bla. You know, I don't hear many of us from Arkansas bashing Mizzou or Kansas, and in fact, I like both schools fine. But I've heard all kinds of ignorance bashing Arkansas fans, calling us arrogant, inbreds, etc.....just curious about the double standards there.

Link? Never heard anyone say that.

KCBOSS1
03-25-2011, 09:57 PM
Link? Never heard anyone say that.

Anderson to Arkansas???? Thread on the 24th. Don't get me wrong, I like Mizzou and want them to find a great coach. But there are just tireless Arkansas insults across this board and several Arkansas CP members. Just gets a little old.

KCBOSS1
03-25-2011, 09:58 PM
and the "He would never go to Arkansas" wasn't a quote. Just implied.

the Talking Can
03-25-2011, 10:01 PM
I guess I'm just sitting and enjoying the idea of Anderson signing with Arkansas after listening to all of the CP bull about his moving to Arkansas being a demotion and he would never go to Arkansas....bla, bla, bla. You know, I don't hear many of us from Arkansas bashing Mizzou or Kansas, and in fact, I like both schools fine. But I've heard all kinds of ignorance bashing Arkansas fans, calling us arrogant, inbreds, etc.....just curious about the double standards there.

Arkansas fans are inbred sheep pokers who believed they were going to get Bill Self....they're only slightly less insane than UK fans...

Hogville is proof humanity deserves to be exterminated

Rams Fan
03-25-2011, 10:04 PM
and the "He would never go to Arkansas" wasn't a quote. Just implied.

I don't remember anyone thinking in the past two weeks that Anderson would never go to Arkansas.

Ever think that Mizzou fans are kinda pissed that they lost their coach after he flirted with other teams for three straight seasons and was about to get a raise from Mizzou because of it?

|Zach|
03-25-2011, 10:11 PM
and the "He would never go to Arkansas" wasn't a quote. Just implied.

Nobody said it because nobody thought that.

Feel free to play the Mizzou fans are mean to me and i dont know why card all you want but lets try not to make up bullshit to do it.

milkman
03-25-2011, 10:15 PM
Anderson to Arkansas???? Thread on the 24th. Don't get me wrong, I like Mizzou and want them to find a great coach. But there are just tireless Arkansas insults across this board and several Arkansas CP members. Just gets a little old.

To be fair, no one even knew Arkansans can read.

KChiefs1
03-25-2011, 10:54 PM
Latest from DeArmond:

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/1745

Sounds like the Painter interest has legs. It still is illogical to me why he would honestly make a lateral move for a bit more money.

Maybe he really does hate Purdue's administration.

I just don't understand why Purdue would want to lose a 2 time Big Ten Coach of the Year & a Purdue graduate.

If he is willing to come to Mizzou then it's a no brainer.

mnchiefsguy
03-25-2011, 11:47 PM
I just don't understand why Purdue would want to lose a 2 time Big Ten Coach of the Year & a Purdue graduate.

If he is willing to come to Mizzou then it's a no brainer.

I wasn't onboard with Painter at first, but the more I hear the more I like. He has not had a great tournament record, but he has done some great things in the regular season, and has done so with some major injuries to his team the past couple of years. Plus, since he is a Purdue grad, if we did lure him away, we would not have to worry about him wanting to go "home", since he will have already been there.

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 01:48 AM
Purdue produced legendary UCLA coach John Wooden. It's steeped in basketball-rich Indiana and the Big Ten.

In three of the last four seasons, Boilermakers coach Matt Painter has been named conference coach of the year. And the school is his alma mater.

That combination makes Painter seem an improbable target and an unlikelier hire for Mizzou as it seeks to replace the departed Mike Anderson.

But sources familiar with his thinking have told the Post-Dispatch that Painter, 155-66 with six NCAA Tournament appearances in seven seasons as a head coach, doesn't necessarily equate Purdue to his dream job.

At least two of those sources are well-connected to Mizzou's search committee and have conveyed to it that Painter would listen.

The committee, led by athletics director Mike Alden, is said to have gotten nothing but favorable feedback about Painter as it went about its work two days after Anderson announced he was leaving for Arkansas.

Painter was described as "out of pocket" by a friend, and his agent, Buddy Baker, could not be reached Friday.

But in interviews with college basketball insiders well-acquainted with Painter and his landscape at Purdue, several themes emerged that illuminate why he could be willing to leave if MU should ask.

Not necessarily most significant but most obvious are financial considerations.

By letting it be known it was willing to bump Anderson from $1.55 million a year to around $2 million annually, Mizzou signaled it has the will and means to make a top-tier commitment that would be among the most lucrative 15 salaries in the nation.

Painter, meanwhile, makes $1.3 million a year plus bonuses.

He has been candid about why he negotiated an escape clause effective at the end of Purdue's season that essentially means no buyout. (Damages incurred by leaving simply would be paid off by Painter surrendering bonuses that were to come.)

"Some coaches have had astronomical buyouts, and they go to another job and they're paying it off for three, four, five or six years, and you don't want to be in that kind of position," Painter, 40, told the Lafayette (Ind). Journal & Courier last year when he signed an eight-year extension. "Any time you can put yourself in a position to have a lower buyout, that only makes sense."

If that makes him sound like less than a committed Purdue lifer, there are other reasons he could see Mizzou as more fertile.

Even as Purdue undergoes major renovations, it will have a hard time matching Mizzou's facilities, which are said to have dazzled Painter when he brought his team to Mizzou Arena in December 2007.

Some say Purdue's past makes it a better job.

But while Purdue may have more history than MU, it's not as radically different as some might suppose in any contemporary sense. MU never has reached the Final Four, and Purdue has twice, in 1969 and 1980.

Since the second one, Purdue is 26-22 in NCAA tourney games. In that same span, Mizzou is 17-21.

If that means Missouri would be at best a lateral move for Painter, so be it. But the quality of the job has to be defined not just by its past but its potential.

And according to a budget database compiled on bbstate.com, MU spent slightly more on basketball last year ($5,345,179) than Purdue ($5,171,495) and has visibly better resources.

It's also believed Painter faces more academic hurdles recruiting there than he would at MU, and sources familiar with both schools believed his recruiting reach could extend farther from Columbia than West Lafayette, Ind.

In theory, Painter could retain some of the recruiting inroads he's made there and re-invigorate MU's presence in St. Louis, where Anderson either had little success, little interest or both.

Painter spent six seasons at Southern Illinois Carbondale, which tapped into St. Louis for star players such as Darren Brooks on its way to a 2002 Sweet 16 run.

A year later, Painter guided the Salukis to a 25-5 record in his first year as a head coach before going back to Purdue as coach in waiting for a year as Gene Keady prepared to retire.

The Boilermakers went 7-21, the most losses they'd suffered in a single season in school history, and after a rough first year (9-19) in Keady's seat Painter began the resuscitation with a 13-game improvement and NCAA tourney appearance and was able to usher in a top five recruiting class.

Purdue hasn't looked back since, with Painter twice taking it to the Sweet 16.

Even so, he still coaches for a school whose basketball tradition forever will be in the shadow of Indiana University, where in fact Painter had wanted to go. With Notre Dame back to national prominence and nearby Butler emerging as a deep postseason regular, Purdue is easily lost in the shuffle. Mizzou is the only major basketball power in Missouri.

All of which could be appealing enough to Painter, even if it looks like a reach at first blush.

martin comments

Missouri State coach Cuonzo Martin, the subject of speculation about the Missouri job, issued a statement saying no one from Missouri had contacted him or his agent and adding, "My priorities continue to be with Missouri State and building a championship program here." Martin indicated he would have nothing more to say on the Missouri job.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/article_77f440b7-2749-50f5-a5f0-894237a67bf4.html

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 03:36 AM
Mizzou Fans are mad that Coach A left... Why?. These r the same fans that could not fill the arena.. So why r u bitter ab him leaving about 3 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Keith Ramseys twitter....

jbwm89
03-26-2011, 03:41 AM
Mizzou Fans are mad that Coach A left... Why?. These r the same fans that could not fill the arena.. So why r u bitter ab him leaving about 3 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Keith Ramseys twitter....

Did you see what I sent back on Twitter. That piece of shit still plays rec ball and gets worked. Like mizzou has not had a great homecourt advantage recently

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 03:47 AM
Did you see what I sent back on Twitter. That piece of shit still plays rec ball and gets worked. Like mizzou has not had a great homecourt advantage recently

Yeah i just read it....stupid ass comment and good find on your part. I pretty much stop following guys that aren't on the team. I wonder how his ex-teammates feel about his dumbass comment

jbwm89
03-26-2011, 03:49 AM
Yeah i just read it....stupid ass comment and good find on your part. I pretty much stop following guys that aren't on the team. I wonder how his ex-teammates feel about his dumbass comment


Pretty stupid honestly. Guy is a piece of shit still hanging around campus

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 03:50 AM
Pretty stupid honestly. Guy is a piece of shit still hanging around campus

I'm sleep but im tempted to say shit to him. Rip the fans? really...

Assclown needs to find something better to do than hang out at mizzou

I wonder if he has even paid attention to how it went down this week

jbwm89
03-26-2011, 03:54 AM
I'm sleep but im tempted to say shit to him. Rip the fans? really...

Assclown needs to find something better to do than hang out at mizzou

I wonder if he has even paid attention to how it went down this week

No shit as much as i hate English he is even upset about ma leaving. Where does ramsey get off saying that

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 03:55 AM
No shit as much as i hate English he is even upset about ma leaving. Where does ramsey get off saying that

No idea...

I can't wait to ask him...he probably wants attention since no one gives a shit. He should never say that about the fans

patteeu
03-26-2011, 09:37 AM
Mizzou Fans are mad that Coach A left... Why?. These r the same fans that could not fill the arena.. So why r u bitter ab him leaving about 3 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Keith Ramseys twitter....

If only Coach Anderson could have recruited decent big men, things might have been different.

CoMoChief
03-26-2011, 09:47 AM
If only Coach Anderson could have recruited decent big men, things might have been different.

well there were more problems than just inability to recruit big men.

there was no discipline offensively on that team. WAAAAAY too many horrible decisions and poor shot selection. Nothing more than playground ball. I honestly can't say I've seen MU run a single offensive set the entire season (ok well I'm exaggerating - u get my point).

Remember the first half against KU at Allen? MU made the extra passes, and took good shots, took care of the ball and they were only down a few pts. When they shy away from that kind of discipline, that's where they tend to get their asses kicked in, and that's the coach's fault.

patteeu
03-26-2011, 10:01 AM
well there were more problems than just inability to recruit big men.

there was no discipline offensively on that team. WAAAAAY too many horrible decisions and poor shot selection. Nothing more than playground ball. I honestly can't say I've seen MU run a single offensive set the entire season (ok well I'm exaggerating - u get my point).

Remember the first half against KU at Allen? MU made the extra passes, and took good shots, took care of the ball and they were only down a few pts. When they shy away from that kind of discipline, that's where they tend to get their asses kicked in, and that's the coach's fault.

It was a message specifically tailored to Keith Ramsey.

Here, let me explain. Keith Ramsey tweeted something disparaging to the fans. My statement about the inability to recruit big men, indirectly indicts Keith Ramsey's abilities because he was one of those big men.

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 11:00 AM
http://tinyurl.com/49myhu9

MA live presser

fucking gag

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 11:04 AM
http://tinyurl.com/49myhu9

MA live presser

****ing gag

I almost gagged when they were cheering for him.

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 11:10 AM
Yes, finally someone from KOMU asks a question.

He's dodging the bullet.

Edit: At least he thanked Mizzou. Oh, now they're booing him because he thanked the people of Columbia. **** off people in BWA.

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 11:10 AM
Oh they just asked him 'why no goodbye to the fans at mizzou'.....hes like uhh....what we did was a press release, we had great fans at mizzou (hey dipshit answer the question) "i may have not addressed it personally but through a press release' He pauses again...after the lady reporter asked 'you didnt think you needed to address that personally?' ARK people booed her....

Mike goes on saying they will see me at walmart etc...im glad that chick asked that
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Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 11:12 AM
Yes, finally someone from KOMU asks a question.

He's dodging the bullet.

Edit: At least he thanked Mizzou. Oh, now they're booing him. **** off people in BWA.

You just heard what i posted too?

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 11:14 AM
You just heard what i posted too?

Yeah, he was slow in to responding to the question. I think he answered it, but it wasn't the answer I wanted him to say. He briefly he thanked the administration, the team and when he mentioned City of Columbia, they started booing him.

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 11:17 AM
Yeah, he was slow in to responding to the question. I think he answered it, but it wasn't the answer I wanted him to say. He briefly he thanked the administration, the team and when he mentioned City of Columbia, they started booing him.

I think they more so were booing the person that asked the question...

He's stll a POS, he was forced to say something so uhh ill thank them now that im in arkansas

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 11:18 AM
I think they more so were booing the person that asked the question...

He's stll a POS, he was forced to say something so uhh ill thank them now that im in arkansas

It seemed like they were booing him because he mentioned Columbia...

I agree. He was forced to answer the question and basically dodged it initially.

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 11:35 AM
Apparently this press release doesn't exist

Reaper16
03-26-2011, 11:42 AM
Just getting caught up on this. I haven't seen any press release to the Mizzou fans. Did he just make that shit up? This guy is a complete sham, and I'm sad for the Missouri fanbase that was fooled into thinking he was a good man.

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 11:43 AM
@BeatEmUp_Bug It's funny you rip the fans...did you even pay attention to went on this week? Mike lied to his own players, hid, ran 40 minutes ago via web in reply to BeatEmUp_Bug


@BeatEmUp_Bug couldn't even face the media and dragged mizzou around for the last few years pondering...It's how he left, not that he left. 39 minutes ago via web in reply to BeatEmUp_Bug


@BeatEmUp_Bug mizzou only had one of the best home arena records and you rip the fans? Why didnt you say this when you were still playing? 38 minutes ago via web in reply to BeatEmUp_Bug

BeatEmUp_Bug
@shizzyrocks The arena should be filled no matter who we r playing... #nuffsaid

Ramsey not backing down at all

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 11:47 AM
Just getting caught up on this. I haven't seen any press release to the Mizzou fans. Did he just make that shit up? This guy is a complete sham, and I'm sad for the Missouri fanbase that was fooled into thinking he was a good man.

I think that was what pisses me off the most, i praised him like crazy at what kind of guy he was etc. Made it hard to get pissed at him, he fooled us all...if he handled this the right way i wouldn't be nearly pissed hell maybe not pissed at all

siberian khatru
03-26-2011, 02:19 PM
Just getting caught up on this. I haven't seen any press release to the Mizzou fans. Did he just make that shit up? This guy is a complete sham, and I'm sad for the Missouri fanbase that was fooled into thinking he was a good man.

(Sheepishly raises hand.)

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 02:28 PM
MA JR seems to be getting crap on twitter, which is bs...

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 02:40 PM
MA JR seems to be getting crap on twitter, which is bs...

Any new info on the coaching search on twitter?

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 02:49 PM
Any new info on the coaching search on twitter?

Nothing really, i've heard that they want to get it done by the final four possibly. Painter seems to be one their looking at but i don't think anyones been contacted

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 02:50 PM
Nothing really, i've heard that they want to get it done by the final four possibly. Painter seems to be one their looking at but i don't think anyones been contacted

What coaches are they looking at besides Painter? Martin?

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 02:53 PM
What coaches are they looking at besides Painter? Martin?

I don't think they've even said who they are looking at.

Candidates are likely Painter, Martin, maybe Smart? Unsure really

Stanley Nickels
03-26-2011, 02:55 PM
Ben Jacobsen

duncan_idaho
03-26-2011, 03:23 PM
What coaches are they looking at besides Painter? Martin?

Martin is quite a ways down the list. Fallback option.

Buzz Williams. Kevin Stallings. Shaka Smart. Ben Jacobsen. Mooney. Probably a couple of guys we haven't heard about yet.

Search committee thoughts are that Martin would be a BIG settle, not a win.

eazyb81
03-26-2011, 03:49 PM
Martin is quite a ways down the list. Fallback option.

Buzz Williams. Kevin Stallings. Shaka Smart. Ben Jacobsen. Mooney. Probably a couple of guys we haven't heard about yet.

Search committee thoughts are that Martin would be a BIG settle, not a win.

Where do you get this info?

The only names that have been leaked publicly are Painter and Martin.

I'd easily take Martin over Smart, Jacobsen, and Mooney.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-26-2011, 03:55 PM
The more I get away from it, the happier I am to be rid of 40 Minutes of Bullfuck. I still want Anderson to die, though.

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 04:34 PM
DeArmond is reporting Mizzou has permission to speak w/ Painter.

Fritz88
03-26-2011, 04:39 PM
I don't blame him for leaving. Good luck in finding a coach who can get you 20+ ones every other year. :D

Saul Good
03-26-2011, 04:40 PM
DeArmond is reporting Mizzou has permission to speak w/ Painter.

Did my pants just get shorter?

siberian khatru
03-26-2011, 04:41 PM
The more I get away from it, the happier I am to be rid of 40 Minutes of Bull****. I still want Anderson to die, though.

Yep and yep.

This is a great opportunity for MU to take a big step forward. Alden better not fuck up this hire.

Sure-Oz
03-26-2011, 04:44 PM
UPDATE:

GabeDeArmond
Sources indicate #Mizzou has targeted Purdue coach Matt Painter and made initial inquiries. More at PowerMizzou.com.

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 04:45 PM
UPDATE:

GabeDeArmond
Sources indicate #Mizzou has targeted Purdue coach Matt Painter and made initial inquiries. More at PowerMizzou.com.

Anyone here subscribe at Power Mizzou?

eazyb81
03-26-2011, 04:46 PM
I love the Painter talk, but I will not believe it's actually a possibility until it happens. Why would a guy leave his alma mater and a job he was groomed for? You know Purdue will up his pay or at least meet in the middle of what Mizzou is offering.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Painter and Martin use both Mizzou and Purdue to negotiate off each other. Painter will tell Purdue and Martin what Mizzou is offering him, helping him get a raise at Purdue and Martin negotiate with better info against Mizzou.

siberian khatru
03-26-2011, 04:46 PM
Anyone here subscribe at Power Mizzou?

You can sign up for a free 7-day trial. This might be the right 7 days to do it.