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'Hamas' Jenkins
03-25-2011, 01:21 PM
Deion Sanders: Dez Bryant needs help
<hr width="100%" noshade="noshade" size="1"> By Tim MacMahon
ESPNDallas.com

Deion Sanders (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=49), who stopped mentoring Dez Bryant (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13215) months ago, strongly criticized the Dallas Cowboys (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/dal/dallas-cowboys) receiver in reaction to the criminal trespass warning given to Bryant over the weekend at a Dallas mall. "I'm upset but not surprised whatsoever," Sanders said on The Ben & Skin Show on ESPN 103.3 FM in Dallas. Sanders described Bryant's behavior at NorthPark Center on Saturday as "ignorant." The 2010 first-round pick was issued the warning after an off-duty police officer requested that Bryant and his friends pull up their pants because their underwear was showing and Bryant responded with repeated profanity, according to the police report

Bryant, who was stung by Sanders' comments, is adamant that the only thing he did wrong at the mall is use profanity toward a police officer, whom Bryant claims shoved him into the back as he was escorting him outside. "I feel like the cop was in the wrong here more than anything," Bryant told ESPNDallas.com on Friday. "Don't just make it seem like I went off and had a hot head for no reason. That's the only thing I did wrong -- I used profanity."

Still Sanders said Bryant has issues stemming from his difficult childhood. "He needs help. He needs help," Sanders said. "I told the Cowboys from Day One that he needs help. Matter of fact, they have a team in place to help him. But you cannot tell a grown man what to do." Sanders, who was recently selected into the Pro Football Hall of Fame and serves as a mentor to many NFL players, said he ended his relationship with Bryant over the summer due to the receiver's dishonesty.

"I wish Deion would come to me as a man and talk to me," Bryant told ESPNDallas.com. "I've been reaching out to Deion. I've never done anything wrong to Deion or disrespected him. I've never lied to Deion." The NCAA suspended Bryant in September 2009 for the rest of that season for lying about having lunch with Sanders. No other rules violations were found, but Sanders said it bothered him that he took a lot of the blame for Bryant's lie. However, Sanders said the relationship continued until he became concerned that Bryant could negatively influence children in Sanders' youth program.

Sanders added that he felt like he could not help Bryant. "I don't have a problem with you lying to me. That's one thing," Sanders said. "But when you lie to yourself as a man, you have a serious problem and that's where this kid is. And I can't condone it. I really can't. It tarnishes everything else I'm trying to develop in these kids [in his youth program]. I can't allow you to poison other kids that I'm trying to mentor and take to another level."

Bryant is still banned from the mall, NorthPark Center, for an undetermined length of time, according to officials. However, NorthPark Center officials said they would like to meet with Bryant's attorney, Texas Senator Royce West, to solve the issue. West has been at the state capital, Austin, conducting state business and hasn't been able to speak with NorthPark Center officials. David Wells, an adviser for Bryant, met with NorthPark Center officials on Wednesday. David Margulies, a spokesman for NorthPark Center, said Bryant didn't have his pants sagging but his friend did, confirming what Bryant told ESPNDallas.com. "We would like to have everything resolved," Margulies said. "The attorneys have been playing phone tag if you will." The trespass warning can't be rescinded, but NorthPark Center can allow Bryant to return to the shopping center if he doesn't cause any trouble. It would be up to NorthPark Center security to determine if they want to call police. <cite></cite> Bryant has not returned to the shopping center since Saturday's incident. Meanwhile, Bryant said Sanders has refused to talk to him since he backed out of his marketing deal with Under Armour, a popular shoe and apparel company that also outfits Sanders' youth athletic programs. The deal fell apart, according to Bryant, because he determined during last year's minicamps that the company's cleats weren't the right fit for his feet. Bryant, who wears Nike cleats but does not have a shoe deal, said Sanders has ignored repeated text messages from him since then.

"I never knew the reason for Deion not saying anything to me," Bryant said. "The only thing I can believe is that when I stopped talking to Under Armour, Deion stopped talking to me. I never knew what Prime's problem was. "That's my decision. That has nothing to do with Prime. That made me feel he must be getting something from Under Armour." Sanders praised the effort of Wells, whom Sanders has had a relationship with since playing for the Cowboys in the 1990s. But Sanders made it clear that he has no intention of being involved in Bryant's life again.


"I haven't spoken to the kid," Sanders said. "I have no desire to speak to the kid. In regards to me, I can forgive, but I can't forget. You can't tarnish the other things that I have going on and the other kids. It's sort of like I can't allow something to poison the fruit of many other kids. I can't do it, so I cut off those ties a long time ago." Bryant said he no longer wants a relationship with Sanders, one of his idols as a child growing up in Lufkin, Texas. Bryant just wants a man-to-man conversation with his former mentor to discuss their differences, especially after learning of Sanders' pointed comments Friday.

"It bothers me more than anything," Bryant said. "I've looked up to Deion my whole life. I've never done anything wrong to him. "The only thing I can think of is the Under Armour situation. That's the only thing. He didn't want me to leave Under Armour, but I had to do what's best for me. That's the whole truth."

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 01:26 PM
He acts like he's 14. Glad we didn't draft this knucklehead. At least Bowe pulls up his pants.

Hays
03-25-2011, 01:27 PM
Another kid messed in the head. Has talent but will let his head get in the way.

Frazod
03-25-2011, 01:32 PM
If you're such a complete punk that Deion Sanders can't even deal with you......

Damn.

notorious
03-25-2011, 01:33 PM
Unavoidable implosion.

That kid doesn't stand a chance.

blaise
03-25-2011, 01:38 PM
Bryant just doesn't get it and it doesn't look like he's the type that ever will. To be a grown man and get thrown out of a mall is nothing short of moronic. You should have grown out of that phase at age 14.

Detoxing
03-25-2011, 01:39 PM
Is it Bryant or is it Deion?

Sounds to me like Neon helped get bryant that Nike Contract, Bryant didn't fulfill his obligations and now it looks bad on Deion.

Just pulled that out of my ass, but it's possible.

Detoxing
03-25-2011, 01:41 PM
Bryant just doesn't get it and it doesn't look like he's the type that ever will. To be a grown man and get thrown out of a mall is nothing short of moronic. You should have grown out of that phase at age 14.

In his defense, it was an off duty cop. And he can wear whatever he wants however he wants to wear it.

If some random guy in the mall were to try to tell you how to dress, what would you do?

I'd tell him to fuck off, and make it loud and clear. Most would probably do the same.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-25-2011, 01:42 PM
This is the same dumb sonofabitch who left his cleats at home for his Pro Day. They should rename red flags "Dez Bryants".

"Well, Boom, this kid is a tremendous player, but he does have a number of Dez Bryants."

Cave Johnson
03-25-2011, 01:43 PM
The same Deion who indirectly led to Bryant's Okie State suspension. That guy's a regular Mother Theresa.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-25-2011, 01:44 PM
The same Deion who indirectly led to Bryant's Okie State suspension. That guy's a regular Mother Theresa.

Yeah, in no way was it Bryant lying to the NCAA that got him suspended.

milkman
03-25-2011, 01:46 PM
In his defense, it was an off duty cop. And he can wear whatever he wants however he wants to wear it.

If some random guy in the mall were to try to tell you how to dress, what would you do?

I'd tell him to **** off, and make it loud and clear. Most would probably do the same.

If it's an off duty cop working as mall security, then it's likely that he was wearing a security uniform.

Bryant also states that it while he was being escorted out of the mall that he went on his profanity laced tirade, which means that the off duty cop's identity had been already established.

blaise
03-25-2011, 01:48 PM
In his defense, it was an off duty cop. And he can wear whatever he wants however he wants to wear it.

If some random guy in the mall were to try to tell you how to dress, what would you do?

I'd tell him to **** off, and make it loud and clear. Most would probably do the same.

I wouldn't be hanging out at the mall with a group of dudes, for one thing. And if I was Dez Bryant I would have just left. Otherwise you end up looking like a juvenile ass, just like he did.

notorious
03-25-2011, 01:52 PM
Yeah, in no way was it Bryant lying to the NCAA that got him suspended.

This.

JohninGpt
03-25-2011, 01:52 PM
Bryant just doesn't get it and it doesn't look like he's the type that ever will. To be a grown man and get thrown out of a mall is nothing short of moronic. You should have grown out of that phase at age 14.

A grown man with his ass hanging out of his pants is moronic as well.

notorious
03-25-2011, 01:55 PM
Dez has the athletic ability of a God yet the mental capacity of a 9 year old.

chiefsnorth
03-25-2011, 01:56 PM
I feel bad in a way because with his upbringing he was really behind the 8 ball to start with. But at some point you have to be responsible for your choices

Maybe he was just shopping like any of us, but does it seem weird that a supposedly grown man is cruising a mall with his friends causing trouble with the mall cops? Doesn't seem like a situation a mature player would put himself in... If making it as a star in the NFL doesn't help you grow up then what will?

Detoxing
03-25-2011, 02:00 PM
I wouldn't be hanging out at the mall with a group of dudes, for one thing. And if I was Dez Bryant I would have just left. Otherwise you end up looking like a juvenile ass, just like he did.

Uhm, you've never gone to the mall with your friends? Strange.

I'm still skeptical on how all of this went down.

I'm imagining myself shopping with some friends and some random prick says to me "hey, pull up your pants" (not that I sag, but hypothetical here).

He would likely get a big "go fuck yourself" from me. At which point, words will be had back and forth. Anger would ensue.

Off duty cop or not, if the guy was being a dick initially, I'd be pissed too.

Detoxing
03-25-2011, 02:01 PM
If it's an off duty cop working as mall security, then it's likely that he was wearing a security uniform.

Bryant also states that it while he was being escorted out of the mall that he went on his profanity laced tirade, which means that the off duty cop's identity had been already established.

Ah, ok, that changes things then.

yeah, he shoulda just STFU.

milkman
03-25-2011, 02:02 PM
I feel bad in a way because with his upbringing he was really behind the 8 ball to start with. But at some point you have to be responsible for your choices

Maybe he was just shopping like any of us, but does it seem weird that a supposedly grown man is cruising a mall with his friends causing trouble with the mall cops? Doesn't seem like a situation a mature player would put himself in... If making it as a star in the NFL doesn't help you grow up then what will?

Listening to ESPN Radio, Brant apparently spent thousands of dollars at The Foot Locker and a couple of other stores there over the course of the season.

Mall businesses are not happy that he has been banned (bandt?) for three months.

Frazod
03-25-2011, 02:06 PM
I wonder how many times he asked the cop "DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?????" LMAO

chiefsnorth
03-25-2011, 02:08 PM
Listening to ESPN Radio, Brant apparently spent thousands of dollars at The Foot Locker and a couple of other stores there over the course of the season.

Mall businesses are not happy that he has been banned (bandt?) for three months.

I can see it. He won't be wealthy for long, they better get their taste while they can.

milkman
03-25-2011, 02:10 PM
I wonder how many times he asked the cop "DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?????" LMAO

I was thinking at least we didn't get reports that he said that.

jamesincanada
03-25-2011, 02:10 PM
should have just kept his mouth shut. doesn't help the players cause either

i know one doesn't rep all but it will still stick with people

blaise
03-25-2011, 02:14 PM
Uhm, you've never gone to the mall with your friends? Strange.

I'm still skeptical on how all of this went down.

I'm imagining myself shopping with some friends and some random prick says to me "hey, pull up your pants" (not that I sag, but hypothetical here).

He would likely get a big "go **** yourself" from me. At which point, words will be had back and forth. Anger would ensue.

Off duty cop or not, if the guy was being a dick initially, I'd be pissed too.


No, not after about the age of 17, I haven't gone to the mall with a group of dudes. Seems gay.
And good for him, he told a mall cop to go fuck himself, great victory for him, and now 75% of the people who read the story think he's an ass.

Gadzooks
03-25-2011, 02:26 PM
David Wells, an adviser for Bryant, met with NorthPark Center officials on Wednesday.
There's you problem.
http://www.nydailynews.com/features/thestadium/img/Great_Moments/clemens_6gm07ln4.JPG

Chiefnj2
03-25-2011, 03:03 PM
What an untimely article. Sanders cut off ties with him some time ago.

Dylan
03-25-2011, 04:10 PM
"Meanwhile, Bryant said Sanders has refused to talk to him since he backed out of his marketing deal with Under Armour, a popular shoe and apparel company that also outfits Sanders' youth athletic programs."

Follow the money.

easymobee
03-25-2011, 04:55 PM
Hes an idiot.

Doesn't necessarily mean he cant play football, but doesnt necessarily mean he can read either.

The truly idiotic cant avoid the headlines (lindsey lohan) Dez is good at acting stupid in public.

milkman
03-25-2011, 06:42 PM
Hes an idiot.

Doesn't necessarily mean he cant play football, but doesnt necessarily mean he can read either.

The truly idiotic cant avoid the headlines (lindsey lohan) Dez is good at acting stupid in public.

Acting?

Chocolate Hog
03-25-2011, 06:44 PM
Everyone would excuse his dumbassery if he tried out for a soccer team.

Deberg_1990
03-25-2011, 07:06 PM
They were saying on the local radio down here that Sanders thought Dez was a bad influence around his youth football programs he runs. Apparantly there had been a few instances of bad behavior around them.

I hope this kid turns it around because his talent is without question. Kid had a truly terrible upbringing, but at some point you have to take control of your own actions. No excuses, hes a full grown man now.

KCBOSS1
03-25-2011, 08:16 PM
I just really would like to shop at the mall that would make these knotheads pull their pants up. Honestly, they can't just wear whatever they want. These malls can uphold their standard of indecent exposure.

PunkinDrublic
03-25-2011, 08:33 PM
He's better off not having Deion as a mentor anyway. I think it has more to do with money than Deions fake morality stand. I live about 3 miles from this mall and it's one of those upscale malls that has a Nieman Marcus and upscale stores like that. From local accounts Bryant frequents the mall quite a bit and spends a shitload of money there and this is the one time there's been a problem.

KCBOSS1
03-25-2011, 08:40 PM
Deion's got more money than he could spend in 10 lifetimes. Why would it be about money. This kid's a punk. He's acted like a punk since he entered the league.

Brock
03-25-2011, 08:42 PM
What Deion thinks about anyone is suddenly credible and important? He's a douchebag, always has been.

milkman
03-25-2011, 08:47 PM
What Deion thinks about anyone is suddenly credible and important? He's a douchebag, always has been.

Which begs the question.

What kind of low life scum does one have to be for Dieon Sanders to cut ties?

Mr. Kotter
03-25-2011, 09:07 PM
Which begs the question.

What kind of low life scum does one have to be for Dieon Sanders to cut ties?

Bam....

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morphius
03-25-2011, 09:11 PM
Which begs the question.

What kind of low life scum does one have to be for Dieon Sanders to cut ties?
That's easy, one that cost him some money. Doesn't matter how much he has, he is always going to want more.

crazycoffey
03-25-2011, 09:28 PM
I just really would like to shop at the mall that would make these knotheads pull their pants up. Honestly, they can't just wear whatever they want. These malls can uphold their standard of indecent exposure.


exactly. it's one thing to wear the pants low, as long as the shirt is still tucked, everything's covered. But when you show your underwear and your pants are below your butt checks, well - it's arguable that it's indecent exposure. If the Mall makes that it's line drawn in the sand, then pull up the fucking britches.

Personally I've always thought the "fad" was stupid. But it's also funny, working in law enforcement it's easier to chase after someone in baggy pants than a jogging suit....



Which begs the question.

What kind of low life scum does one have to be for Dieon Sanders to cut ties?


Zing! ROFL

milkman
03-25-2011, 09:31 PM
Personally I've always thought the "fad" was stupid. But it's also funny, working in law enforcement it's easier to chase after someone in baggy pants than a jogging suit....

What about baggy jogging suit?

I ask kids that wear baggy hanging pants when they are going to buy pants that fit?

crazycoffey
03-25-2011, 09:39 PM
What about baggy jogging suit?

I ask kids that wear baggy hanging pants when they are going to buy pants that fit?

I say it looks stupid, and if they are in the military and wearing that crap; well, it's more fun when you can talk like CP in real life...

PunkinDrublic
03-26-2011, 11:56 AM
Dez still has time to mature. Deion is one of the phoniest people in pro sports and will never change. If part of growing up is cutting bad influences out of your life Dez has taken that first step by losing contact with Deion.

scott free
03-27-2011, 12:46 PM
I'd like to know what percentage of guys who wear their pants like that, know what it actually symbolizes.

I bet many would stop if they did.

Chiefaholic
03-27-2011, 12:52 PM
In his defense, it was an off duty cop. And he can wear whatever he wants however he wants to wear it.

If some random guy in the mall were to try to tell you how to dress, what would you do?

I'd tell him to **** off, and make it loud and clear. Most would probably do the same.

You're not one of those dumb SOB's with a size 28 waist and a size 36 pants are you? Get some pants that fit, wear a belt, or keep the damn things pulled up. It isn't a right to walk through a public place with half your ass showing.

milkman
03-27-2011, 12:54 PM
I'd like to know what percentage of guys who wear their pants like that, know what it actually symbolizes.

I bet many would stop if they did.

Stupidity?

scott free
03-27-2011, 12:55 PM
Stupidity?

Among other things.

milkman
03-27-2011, 12:59 PM
Among other things.


Well?

Is it a secret?

Chiefaholic
03-27-2011, 01:03 PM
Everyone would excuse his dumbassery if he tried out for a soccer team.

How are Dez and Chad's actions the same? I might have missed an article on CJ, but I don't recall off the field issues.

Chiefaholic
03-27-2011, 01:09 PM
Among other things.

Other than ignorance, you've got me stumped...:hmmm: The only advantage I gain from these dipshits buying larger sizes is more jeans of my size on the shelf to choose from.

L.A. Chieffan
03-27-2011, 01:28 PM
Bam....

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I SAW OBAMA HES A MUSLEM

scott free
03-27-2011, 01:30 PM
Well?

Is it a secret?

Heh, sorry, i figured most people here knew.

Wearing ones pants so your ass sticks out is the 'ready & willing' signal for prison queens.

Dallas Chief
03-27-2011, 02:05 PM
He's better off not having Deion as a mentor anyway. I think it has more to do with money than Deions fake morality stand. I live about 3 miles from this mall and it's one of those upscale malls that has a Nieman Marcus and upscale stores like that. From local accounts Bryant frequents the mall quite a bit and spends a shitload of money there and this is the one time there's been a problem.

Lakewood Creeper.

Count Zarth
03-27-2011, 02:16 PM
Heh...Deion is another fraudulent Christian.

Chiefnj2
03-27-2011, 02:39 PM
Dez is immature and has issues stemming from a really rough childhood. He's never had a real father figure to look up to.

Deion is supposed to be a good Christian who works with at risk kids as a mentor. What's he do when one of his "kids" messes up? He abandons them. He stops returning calls. He says that their getting in trouble at a mall makes them worse than PacMan Jones who was involved in multiple drug issues and somebody getting shot and paralyzed in a club.

Too bad someone in the media won't call Deion out. Whitlock is probably the only writer with enough balls to do so.

Ebolapox
03-27-2011, 04:35 PM
I feel bad in a way because with his upbringing he was really behind the 8 ball to start with. But at some point you have to be responsible for your choices

Maybe he was just shopping like any of us, but does it seem weird that a supposedly grown man is cruising a mall with his friends causing trouble with the mall cops? Doesn't seem like a situation a mature player would put himself in... If making it as a star in the NFL doesn't help you grow up then what will?

may he turn out like michael irvin and end up WITH the 8 ball (with none of the rings or stats)

Detoxing
03-28-2011, 05:11 PM
http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5558/dez-bryant

Profootballtalk.com reports that Dez Bryant is being sued by a Dallas jeweler for $246,000.
Rafaello & Co claims that they provided Bryant with $267,000 in jewelry, and he only paid $21,000. The bulk of the purchases were reportedly made before and after last April's draft. On February 18, 2010, Bryant dropped $144,000, including $60,000 for a "custom charm." Bryant's five-year rookie contract signed in July, 2010

TEX
03-28-2011, 05:49 PM
Dez Bryant has all the talent in the world, but it comes at a cost. He is very immaturead is not coachable. No way he'd play for me. I coiuld give a $hit about is childhood. Deal with it and grow up.

OnTheWarpath58
03-28-2011, 07:44 PM
NONE of us saw this coming this time last year...

What a huge surprise.

Demonpenz
03-28-2011, 08:05 PM
if dez would only follow simply red's I got an ass thread. He would be saved

PunkinDrublic
03-28-2011, 08:47 PM
Bottom line is this is bad for the Cowboys, and what's bad for the Cowboys is bad for Cowboy fans.