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Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 04:56 PM
And a huge flaming homo.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6256890

n NFL work stoppage has not prevented Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow from finding work.

Tebow will make his commercial debut next week as the first professional athlete to model Jockey underwear since Jim Palmer in 1980, when the former Baltimore Orioles pitcher wore the Jockey Elance brief, according to a spokesman for the company.

Tebow will be wearing Jockey Staycool products and he will be featured in a blitz of magazine ads and television appearances in the coming days.

"People may say it's underwear, but everyone wears underwear -- it's not like I'm doing something risque," Tebow said this week from his home in Denver. "I wouldn't do anything that goes against what I stand for. The whole campaign is very classy."

Tebow shot the Jockey commercial in Los Angeles about a month after the season ended. Since then, he spent most of his time at the Broncos' training facility, until the players were locked out.

"I didn't go on any vacations," Tebow said. "I was at the Broncos' facility up until the night of the lockout. Now that we're locked out, I'm still training, still grinding away. Everyone wants to be there. The owners want to get things resolved for this season, the players want to play this season and most importantly, the fans want us to play this season. We don't want to do anything to hurt the greatest game in America. I hope and pray they'll come to a conclusion soon."

In the interim, Tebow will continue his workouts, his charitable work for his foundation and promoting Jockey. He is scheduled to appear at a Jockey event at Macy's in New York City's Herald Square in May, and he will be appearing in a national advertising campaign starting next week.

If the campaign is anywhere close to being as successful as the one for Palmer was, Tebow's popularity will continue to grow.

"I really take pride in what I endorse and what I attach my name to," Tebow said. "It's my character and what I stand for. Through my marketing company [XV Enterprises], I'm very fortunate to receive numerous endorsement opportunities and I take less than 1 percent of what's offered, which is ultimately only the ones I truly believe in."

Donger
03-25-2011, 04:57 PM
Christians aren't allowed to wear underwear?

Chiefs Pantalones
03-25-2011, 04:58 PM
And a huge flaming homo.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6256890

n NFL work stoppage has not prevented Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow from finding work.

Tebow will make his commercial debut next week as the first professional athlete to model Jockey underwear since Jim Palmer in 1980, when the former Baltimore Orioles pitcher wore the Jockey Elance brief, according to a spokesman for the company.

Tebow will be wearing Jockey Staycool products and he will be featured in a blitz of magazine ads and television appearances in the coming days.

"People may say it's underwear, but everyone wears underwear -- it's not like I'm doing something risque," Tebow said this week from his home in Denver. "I wouldn't do anything that goes against what I stand for. The whole campaign is very classy."

Tebow shot the Jockey commercial in Los Angeles about a month after the season ended. Since then, he spent most of his time at the Broncos' training facility, until the players were locked out.

"I didn't go on any vacations," Tebow said. "I was at the Broncos' facility up until the night of the lockout. Now that we're locked out, I'm still training, still grinding away. Everyone wants to be there. The owners want to get things resolved for this season, the players want to play this season and most importantly, the fans want us to play this season. We don't want to do anything to hurt the greatest game in America. I hope and pray they'll come to a conclusion soon."

In the interim, Tebow will continue his workouts, his charitable work for his foundation and promoting Jockey. He is scheduled to appear at a Jockey event at Macy's in New York City's Herald Square in May, and he will be appearing in a national advertising campaign starting next week.

If the campaign is anywhere close to being as successful as the one for Palmer was, Tebow's popularity will continue to grow.

"I really take pride in what I endorse and what I attach my name to," Tebow said. "It's my character and what I stand for. Through my marketing company [XV Enterprises], I'm very fortunate to receive numerous endorsement opportunities and I take less than 1 percent of what's offered, which is ultimately only the ones I truly believe in."

This doesn't make him not a Christian. nice try though.

Woodrow Call
03-25-2011, 05:01 PM
Sweet, new spank bank material/KnowMo

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 05:01 PM
This doesn't make him not a Christian. nice try though.

You can pretty much do and say whatever you like and claim to be a christian these days.

Tim Tebow showing his crotch bulge for the world is a good example.

He's going to burn in hell.

mikey23545
03-25-2011, 05:19 PM
You can pretty much do and say whatever you like and claim to be a christian these days.

Tim Tebow showing his crotch bulge for the world is a good example.

He's going to burn in hell.

Is you showing your ass another example?

BigMeatballDave
03-25-2011, 05:40 PM
WTF does this have to do with him being a fraud as a Christian or gay?

Fruit Ninja
03-25-2011, 05:44 PM
Epic fail at the title of this thread.

Donger
03-25-2011, 05:45 PM
I think I understand the situation:

1) GoChiefs hears that Tebow does underwear commerical.

2) GoChiefs sees pictures of Tebow in underwear.

3) GoChiefs achieves uncomfortable and embarrassing erection while looking upon said pictures.

4) In anger for being aroused by said pictures, he decides to make a thread about Tebow not being a Christian in order to assuage his guilt.

vailpass
03-25-2011, 05:47 PM
You can pretty much do and say whatever you like and claim to be a christian these days.

Tim Tebow showing his crotch bulge for the world is a good example.

He's going to burn in hell.

Why don't you just get it over with and come out?

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 05:47 PM
The pictures haven't been released yet. I just enjoy nailing this cocksucker after all his holier than thou bullshit.

Saulbadguy
03-25-2011, 05:48 PM
He's not a bad Christian, just a good Bronco.

vailpass
03-25-2011, 05:48 PM
The pictures haven't been released yet. I would just enjoy nailing this one who sucks the penis after all his holier than thou bullshit.

fixy

luv
03-25-2011, 05:53 PM
The pictures haven't been released yet. I just enjoy nailing this cocksucker after all his holier than thou bullshit.

If he really is gay, I'm sure he'll enjoy it, too.

Mr. Laz
03-25-2011, 05:57 PM
isn't running around in your underwear for all the world to see a sexual,immoral thing?

i don't care ... just seems like they hate sex so much that this would be a frowned upon thing.

J Diddy
03-25-2011, 05:57 PM
The pictures haven't been released yet. I just enjoy nailing this one who sucks the penis after all his holier than thou bullshit.

Claywhit looking forward to pictures of a man in his underwear.
Then wanting to nail him.

No news here.

Donger
03-25-2011, 06:02 PM
The pictures haven't been released yet. I just enjoy nailing this one who sucks the penis after all his holier than thou bullshit.

So you got an erection just thinking about him in his underwear? I think that's worse.

Sinner.

Okie_Apparition
03-25-2011, 06:03 PM
He put the girls in the no fly zone?

DaFace
03-25-2011, 06:07 PM
There are far better things to hold against Tebow than an underwear ad.

rockymtnchief
03-25-2011, 06:08 PM
I just enjoy nailing this cocksucker...

Yes, I'm sure you do. :evil:

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 06:09 PM
Don't think I didn't tee that one up on purpose, you bastards...

GordonGekko
03-25-2011, 06:13 PM
The pictures haven't been released yet. I just enjoy nailing this one who sucks the penis after all his holier than thou bullshit.

Honestly, you say this, and I bet if you went up to him and asked him sincerely for some kind of help, and he wasn't super busy or in the middle of a football game, the dude would probably help you in the capacity that he could. Can't say that for 99% of the other people in this world.

CrazyHorse
03-25-2011, 06:15 PM
I think I understand the situation:

1) GoChiefs hears that Tebow does underwear commerical.

2) GoChiefs sees pictures of Tebow in underwear.

3) GoChiefs achieves uncomfortable and embarrassing erection while looking upon said pictures.

4) In anger for being aroused by said pictures, he decides to make a thread about Tebow not being a Christian in order to assuage his guilt.

You couldn't have nailed it any better.

Personally I don't see anything "unholy" about an underwear commercial. How does an athiest say who is going to hell anyway?

This thread is a swing and a miss.

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 06:18 PM
How does an athiest say who is going to hell anyway?


I'm not an atheist.

Donger
03-25-2011, 06:23 PM
So what's un-Christian about him doing an underwear commercial, GoChiefs?

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 06:24 PM
So what's un-Christian about him doing an underwear commercial, GoChiefs?

1. Idolatry
2. Immorality

I expect hollywood slores to wear underwear in public. Tim Tebow was supposedly a cut above the average whore celebrity.

Pants
03-25-2011, 06:25 PM
I think I understand the situation:



3) GoChiefs achieves uncomfortable and embarrassing erection while looking upon said pictures.



Didn't even need Viagra for that one.

Donger
03-25-2011, 06:28 PM
1. Idolatry
2. Immorality

I expect hollywood slores to wear underwear in public. Tim Tebow was supposedly a cut above the average whore celebrity.

I don't believe him doing an underwear commercial violates either of those. Care to explain how?

Mr. Laz
03-25-2011, 06:34 PM
I don't believe him doing an underwear commercial violates either of those. Care to explain how?
lust and hubris

Chiefs Pantalones
03-25-2011, 06:35 PM
He who is without sin cast the first stone.

And it's God's place to judge, not us.

Thread over.

DaFace
03-25-2011, 06:37 PM
I'm not an atheist.

That's good. I'd scold you even more if you you were.

Donger
03-25-2011, 06:39 PM
lust and hubris

And you think that both are somehow linked to Tebow in his underwear making a commercial?

Chocolate Hog
03-25-2011, 06:40 PM
This thread sucks

booger
03-25-2011, 06:43 PM
Honestly, you say this, and I bet if you went up to him and asked him sincerely for some kind of help, and he wasn't super busy or in the middle of a football game, the dude would probably help you in the capacity that he could. Can't say that for 99% of the other people in this world.

claythan doesn't have to ask for help from tebow he can just ask uncle cheney

Mr. Laz
03-25-2011, 06:51 PM
And you think that both are somehow linked to Tebow in his underwear making a commercial?
i just go by what you hear the religious right talk about all the time.

i mean if a girl wearing sexy clothing is a sin then i imagine wearing your underwear is "lustful" too

Pride
In almost every list Pride (Latin, superbia), or hubris, is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and the source of the others. It is identified as a desire to be more important or attractive than others

seems like they fit to me

booger
03-25-2011, 06:53 PM
he's gonna model some for skiing season that match pat bowlens fur coats

Phobia
03-25-2011, 06:56 PM
isn't running around in your underwear for all the world to see a sexual,immoral thing?

i don't care ... just seems like they hate sex so much that this would be a frowned upon thing.

I sure hope not. That would really screw up my mooning and streaking heists.

I'm pretty sure Christians don't hate sex. At least my pastor's wife doesn't.

CrazyHorse
03-25-2011, 06:57 PM
I'm not an atheist.

Sorry if I got the wrong guy. I thought I remembered this bibig thing with you saying there was no God.



My bad. Still don't see the sin in it though

Mr. Laz
03-25-2011, 07:01 PM
Sorry if I got the wrong guy. I thought I remembered this bibig thing with you saying there was no God.

My bad. Still don't see the sin in it though
no ... you're right, he likes to go around saying "the bible is the biggest piece of fiction ever written"

but he'll say anything for attention so what he believes is unknown

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 07:03 PM
no ... you're right, he likes to go around saying "the bible is the biggest piece of fiction ever written"


The bible being a bunch of bullshit doesn't mean there isn't a higher power.

milkman
03-25-2011, 07:04 PM
i just go by what you hear the religious right talk about all the time.

i mean if a girl wearing sexy clothing is a sin then i imagine wearing your underwear is "lustful" too

Pride
In almost every list Pride (Latin, superbia), or hubris, is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and the source of the others. It is identified as a desire to be more important or attractive than others

seems like they fit to me

Don't care what the religious right believes.

As a man of faith, TeBow has to come to terms with God on his own, and if he searches within himself and believes that modeling underwear is not a sin, then he is the only one who has to answer to God when the time comes.

And uderwear isn't any more revealing or sexy than what many athletes, like swimmers and divers, wear when competing.

Edit:
Oh, and modeling underwear doesn't serve to tell us in any way that he wants to be more attractive or important than anyone else.

booger
03-25-2011, 07:04 PM
but he'll say anything for attention so what he believes is unknown

he believes in the teachings of Nick Athan. And Whitlock. And he's a butt pirate that looks like rachel maddow with 5 oclock shadow.

ClevelandBronco
03-25-2011, 07:06 PM
Thanks for the thread, goatse. It beats those columns you used to try to write.

Mr. Laz
03-25-2011, 07:08 PM
The bible being a bunch of bullshit doesn't mean there isn't a higher power.
isn't that what i just said?

you say bible is bullshit but don't really know what you believe

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 07:09 PM
isn't that what i just said?

you say bible is bullshit but don't really know what you believe

I know exactly what I believe.

milkman
03-25-2011, 07:10 PM
isn't that what i just said?

you say bible is bullshit but don't really know what you believe

How did you reach that conclusion?

Mr. Laz
03-25-2011, 07:10 PM
I know exactly what I believe.

We,We,We don't really know what you believe .. not you. Moron.

Of course you know what you believe.



:doh!:

Mr. Laz
03-25-2011, 07:12 PM
How did you reach that conclusion?
reread the posts and i'm sure you can figure it out

milkman
03-25-2011, 07:13 PM
We,We,We don't really know what you believe .. not you. Moron.

Of course you know what you believe.



:doh!:

He's a moron because you didn't make it clear that you meant we don't know what he believes?

milkman
03-25-2011, 07:14 PM
reread the posts and i'm sure you can figure it out

I reread the post.

You're the one who worded your post so poorly that it was easily misunderstood.

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 07:14 PM
We,We,We don't really know what you believe .. not you. Moron.

Of course you know what you believe.



:doh!:

Why is it any of your business?

Phobia
03-25-2011, 07:16 PM
Why is it any of your business?

Well,... uh - you kinda put yourself out there with this thread. If you're going to question the spiritual beliefs of others then you should go on record with how you see it. That's how mature people debate and discuss. But if you just want to snipe for attention, go for it. You'll crack 15 years old maturity one day.

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 07:21 PM
If you're going to question the spiritual beliefs of others then you should go on record with how you see it.

It really doesn't matter what I believe. It only matters what Tim Tebow believes, and everything to date says that he has established himself as a christian man who is so unbelievably pious that he is a professional athlete who is also a virgin. The media has propped him up as the golden boy of christianity.

And then he goes and does this? LMAO

Massive hypocrite. Probably not a virgin either.

milkman
03-25-2011, 07:24 PM
It really doesn't matter what I believe. It only matters what Tim Tebow believes, and everything to date says that he has established himself as a christian man who is so unbelievably pious that he is a professional athlete who is also a virgin. The media has propped him up as the golden boy of christianity.

And then he goes and does this? LMAO

Massive hypocrite. Probably not a virgin either.

You're making a judgement based on your core values.

TeBow is making a decision based on his.

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 07:29 PM
TeBow is making a decision based on his.

Yes, evidently he's not much of a christian, but he sure likes the label.

Phobia
03-25-2011, 07:30 PM
It really doesn't matter what I believe. It only matters what Tim Tebow believes, and everything to date says that he has established himself as a christian man who is so unbelievably pious that he is a professional athlete who is also a virgin. The media has propped him up as the golden boy of christianity.

And then he goes and does this? LMAO

Massive hypocrite. Probably not a virgin either.

No, it really matters because you're judging him so we need to determine with which brush you are painting him. Because I have a different brush. I'm no Tebow fan but I don't think him earning a little walking around money for endorsements of underwear is a terrible thing. Now, if he were endorsing pornography then maybe you would have a point.

milkman
03-25-2011, 07:36 PM
Yes, evidently he's not much of a christian, but he sure likes the label.

You're making a judgement you aren't qualified to make.

Dave Lane
03-25-2011, 07:38 PM
Christians aren't allowed to wear underwear?

I believe Mormons wear magic underwear.

Count Zarth
03-25-2011, 07:39 PM
You're making a judgement you aren't qualified to make.

Once again, this has nothing to do with me.

Tebow's history sets the standard.

Now someone's telling him to strip down for money and he's all googly-eyed about it. I don't really have a problem with it but he should drop the jesus-lover act. It's obviously a bunch of bullshit.

milkman
03-25-2011, 07:40 PM
Once again, this has nothing to do with me.

Tebow's history sets the standard.

Now someone's telling him to strip down for money and he's all googly-eyed about it. I don't really have a problem with it but he should drop the jesus-lover act. It's obviously a bunch of bullshit.

He's covered.

He isn't getting naked and showing his junk.

luv
03-25-2011, 07:43 PM
He's covered.

He isn't getting naked and showing his junk.

He's just jealous that he's not sexy enough to be an underwear model.

Or his lack of bulge.

trndobrd
03-25-2011, 07:45 PM
Are these ads more or less sinful and perverse then the Michael Jordan ads for Fruit of the Loom?

Chief Chief
03-25-2011, 07:46 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6256890

Tebow said..."I'm...still grinding away. Everyone wants to be there."


See that? Solid proof!!

Just Passin' By
03-25-2011, 08:08 PM
Time to take away thread starting privileges for a little while.

Phobia
03-25-2011, 08:39 PM
I don't really have a problem with it but he should drop the jesus-lover act. It's obviously a bunch of bullshit.

No, I think you really do have a problem with it. Otherwise, why start a thread about it?

bowener
03-25-2011, 09:23 PM
Christians aren't allowed to wear underwear?

Only mormons, but only their magic underwear.

The Rick
03-25-2011, 11:17 PM
I guess it depends...to early to tell until we actually see the photos. If it's a Jordan/Haynes type commercial, it's not going to be a big deal...

stevieray
03-25-2011, 11:19 PM
i don't care ... just seems like they hate sex so much that this would be a frowned upon thing.you've obviously never read the Song of Solomon.


...me thinks some people think that when someone misses the mark, it somehow either invalidates them or their belief, when in reality it accomplishes the exact opposite.

salame
03-26-2011, 01:54 AM
do you think he has a huge bulge?

MoreLemonPledge
03-26-2011, 05:27 AM
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQejx_iq1p7gb21KFr66kvKHF7IwQDhQPThEhOLo_IUscYbHAja&t=1

http://images.tzaam.com/full/je.gif

Mile High Mania
03-26-2011, 06:14 AM
I think it would be money well spent and good for him in the long term if a certain someone in this thread were to invest about 6 months of regular weekly visits with a psychiatrist. You've got a laundry list of topics that need to be covered with a professional. You're bi at best, full blown raging "not straight" at worst. And, there's definitely a twisted religion angle from childhood.

Al Bundy
03-26-2011, 08:31 AM
Only problem I have with Tebow is the Gator fanbois who are also Bucs fans seriously want to trade Josh Freeman for Tebow.

jAZ
03-26-2011, 08:43 AM
[B]Tebow will make his commercial debut next week

Fact fail.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uIWYHAiSygc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rausch
03-26-2011, 08:49 AM
No, I think you really do have a problem with it. Otherwise, why start a thread about it?

This.

It's not crotchless panties it's a guy in his underwear.

It's like slamming on some gal in the Sears catalog for modeling a bra...

stevieray
03-26-2011, 09:02 AM
Fact fail.

kind of like your sig.

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 09:24 AM
I think it would be money well spent and good for him in the long term if a certain someone in this thread were to invest about 6 months of regular weekly visits with a psychiatrist. You've got a laundry list of topics that need to be covered with a professional. You're bi at best, full blown raging "not straight" at worst. And, there's definitely a twisted religion angle from childhood.

LMAO

I just love busting on religious hypocrites.

And I'm not gay.

KC Tattoo
03-26-2011, 09:28 AM
I'm a Christian, yet I sin.


I don't think this is a sin in Tebows case, bfd. However he has put on the Bronco uniform, for that he needs to be doused with holy antifreeze.

Rausch
03-26-2011, 09:32 AM
LMAO

I just love busting on religious hypocrites.

And I'm not gay.

And you're definitely not straight.

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 09:36 AM
And you're definitely not straight.

LMAO

I don't like dudes in any way. I'm meeting a girl tonight and have every intention of banging her. Granted that doesn't mean I'm straight, so asexuality is still open. But...GAY? LMAO

Now if you'll excuse me I have some shopping to do before I catch some Opera this afternoon.

Rausch
03-26-2011, 09:40 AM
LMAO

I don't like dudes in any way. I'm meeting a girl tonight and have every intention of banging her. Granted that doesn't mean I'm straight, so asexuality is still open. But...GAY? LMAO

Now if you'll excuse me I have some shopping to do before I catch some Opera this afternoon.

Uh huh.

I get it, you're keeping it on the down low...

Mosbonian
03-26-2011, 09:49 AM
Interesting how some of the catch phrases people use help to identify their multiple login names

stevieray
03-26-2011, 09:50 AM
LMAO

I just love busting on religious hypocrites.


kind of hard to bust on people who readily admit they are flawed, and know that they are going to fail, yet hold themselves accountable to God..

learning comes from adversity, not coasting.

btw, straight guys don't use the term shopping.

Rausch
03-26-2011, 09:53 AM
learning comes from adversity, not coasting.

This.

btw, straight guys don't use the term shopping.

Unless they need a new smoker or the perfect gift for Christmas...

rambleonthruthefog
03-26-2011, 10:54 AM
christians like to f*q!

Phobia
03-26-2011, 11:39 AM
LMAO

I just love busting on religious hypocrites.


You don't say... I observe Christmas and Birthdays. Doesn't mean I'm going to hell but according to your standards I am. So, let's consider the possibility that it's you who is all screwed up. Is that plausible there at 5203 North Thickskull Lane?

Just Passin' By
03-26-2011, 11:42 AM
LMAO

I just love busting on religious hypocrites.

And I'm not gay.

You should probably learn the meaning of the word hypocrite.

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 11:47 AM
You don't say... I observe Christmas and Birthdays. Doesn't mean I'm going to hell but according to your standards I am.

LMAO

I do not subscribe to JW standards, you buffoon. I also don't believe in hell.

MoreLemonPledge
03-26-2011, 11:51 AM
Fact fail.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uIWYHAiSygc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

THEY SAID I COULDN'T PUSH A TIRE

THEY SAID I COULDN'T HAVE THESE CHAINS AROUND MY NECK

THEY SAID I HAD TO WEAR SLEEVES

pr_capone
03-26-2011, 11:54 AM
Him doing ads in his skivvies does not make him a bad christian. There is nothing immoral about this.

There are only 2 rules to live by if you are Christian.

Love God & love your neighbor. Neither commandment is broken by his ad.

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 11:55 AM
Him doing ads in his skivvies does not make him a bad christian. There is nothing immoral about this.

There are only 2 rules to live by if you are Christian.

Love God & love your neighbor. Neither commandment is broken by his ad.

Might as well take a giant shit on the bible then and call it something else.

TEBOW = FRAUD

MoreLemonPledge
03-26-2011, 11:59 AM
Him doing ads in his skivvies does not make him a bad christian. There is nothing immoral about this.

There are only 2 rules to live by if you are Christian.

Love God & love your neighbor. Neither commandment is broken by his ad.

1. YOU shall love, honour, cherish and obey the Lord your God (love, good and truth) with ALL your heart, with ALL your mind, with ALL your soul and with ALL your strength and Him ONLY shall you serve and OBEY, forsaking ALL others.

2. YOU shall NOT create an image or likeness of ANYTHING that is IN HEAVEN, or on earth, or under the sea and YOU shall NOT worship or BUY such things. YOU shall NOT bow down to them or serve them for I the "I AM" your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate (or disobey) Me; and showing mercy unto thousands of them that love (and obey) Me, and KEEP My COMMANDMENTS.

3. Honour your Father in Heaven and KEEP His COMMANDMENTS; LAWS; Statutes; Judgements; Economic Policy; Agricultural Policy and Diet that He gave to YOU and your Mother, the British Nation Israel, His wife (metaphorically), at Mt. Sinai and make Him proud of YOU.

4. YOU shall NOT commit adultery, either physically, individually, or spiritually, nationally or individually but shall be FAITHFUL to God, your word and your spouse, also NOT committing adultery nationally by following the wrong examples of other nations.

5. YOU shall NOT use the Lord's name, unless you are speaking to Him, or about Him, then you will not waste His time or insult Him.

6. Love your neighbour (not physically) as much as, or more than, you love your "Self". Then you will not do wrong, or lie, to anyone - John 15 v 13.
Do NOT desire eagerly, or touch, anything that does not belong to you. It belongs to your neighbour, not you, and YOU must respect HIS property. Your neighbour is the person next to you and the person on the far side of the planet and everyone in between.

7. YOU shall NOT lie, even to your "Self".

8. Remember the Sabbath and KEEP it Holy. It is NOT wrong to do GOOD deeds on the Sabbath. The Sabbath was made for man. Man was not made for the Sabbath.

9. YOU shall NOT steal. Neither shall you make up your own laws to enable you to do so by deceiving people.

10. YOU shall NOT murder - kill illegally.

11. YOU shall love one another as much as I love you and in the same way - spiritually not physically - John 15 v 13. IF you DO this, ALL men will KNOW that you ARE my disciples and are exercising and learning "Self" discipline - Discipleship.

12. Judge no-one, so that you will not be judged, by God, for by whatever judgement you judge another, unjustly, you condemn yourself to the same punishment. Judging is God's job exclusively, as He is always unbiased, impartial, uncorruptible and just. He has given His judgements, in His Law Books given to you at Mt. Sinai, by which He judges those who break His Laws. There are NO other laws on this planet that are LEGAL. God has strictly FORBIDDEN man from making up laws (Deuteronomy 4:2). God's Laws are the same for everyone. God does NOT have separate Laws - one for the rich and another one for the poor.

pr_capone
03-26-2011, 12:01 PM
Might as well take a giant shit on the bible then and call it something else.


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pr_capone
03-26-2011, 12:03 PM
1. YOU shall love, honour, cherish and obey the Lord your God (love, good and truth) with ALL your heart, with ALL your mind, with ALL your soul and with ALL your strength and Him ONLY shall you serve and OBEY, forsaking ALL others.

2. YOU shall NOT create an image or likeness of ANYTHING that is IN HEAVEN, or on earth, or under the sea and YOU shall NOT worship or BUY such things. YOU shall NOT bow down to them or serve them for I the "I AM" your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate (or disobey) Me; and showing mercy unto thousands of them that love (and obey) Me, and KEEP My COMMANDMENTS.

3. Honour your Father in Heaven and KEEP His COMMANDMENTS; LAWS; Statutes; Judgements; Economic Policy; Agricultural Policy and Diet that He gave to YOU and your Mother, the British Nation Israel, His wife (metaphorically), at Mt. Sinai and make Him proud of YOU.

4. YOU shall NOT commit adultery, either physically, individually, or spiritually, nationally or individually but shall be FAITHFUL to God, your word and your spouse, also NOT committing adultery nationally by following the wrong examples of other nations.

5. YOU shall NOT use the Lord's name, unless you are speaking to Him, or about Him, then you will not waste His time or insult Him.

6. Love your neighbour (not physically) as much as, or more than, you love your "Self". Then you will not do wrong, or lie, to anyone - John 15 v 13.
Do NOT desire eagerly, or touch, anything that does not belong to you. It belongs to your neighbour, not you, and YOU must respect HIS property. Your neighbour is the person next to you and the person on the far side of the planet and everyone in between.

7. YOU shall NOT lie, even to your "Self".

8. Remember the Sabbath and KEEP it Holy. It is NOT wrong to do GOOD deeds on the Sabbath. The Sabbath was made for man. Man was not made for the Sabbath.

9. YOU shall NOT steal. Neither shall you make up your own laws to enable you to do so by deceiving people.

10. YOU shall NOT murder - kill illegally.

11. YOU shall love one another as much as I love you and in the same way - spiritually not physically - John 15 v 13. IF you DO this, ALL men will KNOW that you ARE my disciples and are exercising and learning "Self" discipline - Discipleship.

12. Judge no-one, so that you will not be judged, by God, for by whatever judgement you judge another, unjustly, you condemn yourself to the same punishment. Judging is God's job exclusively, as He is always unbiased, impartial, uncorruptible and just. He has given His judgements, in His Law Books given to you at Mt. Sinai, by which He judges those who break His Laws. There are NO other laws on this planet that are LEGAL. God has strictly FORBIDDEN man from making up laws (Deuteronomy 4:2). God's Laws are the same for everyone. God does NOT have separate Laws - one for the rich and another one for the poor.

Every one of the 12 you posted fits in either love god or love your neighbor.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40&version=NIV

Matthew 22:36-40 (New International Version, ©2011)

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

MoreLemonPledge
03-26-2011, 12:05 PM
Every one of the 12 you posted fits in either love god or love your neighbor.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40&version=NIV

Matthew 22:36-40 (New International Version, ©2011)

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

So what about being gay?

And it says that God has forbidden man from making any other laws. So all lawmakers are going to hell?

pr_capone
03-26-2011, 12:11 PM
So what about being gay?

And it says that God has forbidden man from making any other laws. So all lawmakers are going to hell?

I think you are making the mistake of assuming that I'm Christian. Even if you are not, this is answered by #12 in your post.

Judge no-one, so that you will not be judged, by God, for by whatever judgement you judge another, unjustly, you condemn yourself to the same punishment. Judging is God's job exclusively, as He is always unbiased, impartial, uncorruptible and just. He has given His judgements, in His Law Books given to you at Mt. Sinai, by which He judges those who break His Laws. There are NO other laws on this planet that are LEGAL. God has strictly FORBIDDEN man from making up laws (Deuteronomy 4:2). God's Laws are the same for everyone. God does NOT have separate Laws - one for the rich and another one for the poor.

In other words, it is none of my business if someone is gay or not. Makes ZERO difference in my life. If there is an afterlife of some sort then God will sort it out at that time but it is certainly not my place to say whether what they are doing is right or not.

MoreLemonPledge
03-26-2011, 12:20 PM
I think you are making the mistake of assuming that I'm Christian. Even if you are not, this is answered by #12 in your post.



In other words, it is none of my business if someone is gay or not. Makes ZERO difference in my life. If there is an afterlife of some sort then God will sort it out at that time but it is certainly not my place to say whether what they are doing is right or not.

I shouldn't be trying to incite anything, but it amazes me how your typical Christian will spout off "Don't judge, lest you yourself be judged" or some variation thereof, all while shoving their opinions down other peoples' throats.

I'll slowly back out now and return to the Tebow bashing.

http://cheesesteakswithbarkley.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/tebow-tampons.jpg

pr_capone
03-26-2011, 12:25 PM
I shouldn't be trying to incite anything, but it amazes me how your typical Christian will spout off "Don't judge, lest you yourself be judged" or some variation thereof, all while shoving their opinions down other peoples' throats.


I judge you to be an idiot. :D

MoreLemonPledge
03-26-2011, 12:27 PM
I judge you to be an idiot. :D

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Phobia
03-26-2011, 12:59 PM
LMAO

I do not subscribe to JW standards, you buffoon. I also don't believe in hell.

Well, you must. Because you're the only person suggesting the Tebow is a fraud because he's a pitch-man for underwear. That seems like a JW standard or maybe you're just fishing for any old excuse...

pr_capone
03-26-2011, 01:04 PM
That seems like a JW standard

It seems like you are talking out of your ass. You obviously know next to nothing about JW's yet you feel comfortable bringing up their "standards".

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 01:25 PM
Tebow is a fraud because he's a pitch-man for underwear. That seems like a JW standard

It's Tebow's own standard. That's his life. Mr. Holy.

Phobia
03-26-2011, 02:13 PM
It seems like you are talking out of your ass. You obviously know next to nothing about JW's yet you feel comfortable bringing up their "standards".

Okay, it's like this: One person on this site thinks that Tebow is a hypocrite because he's going to sell underwear. That person has a JW past.

Nobody else thinks Tebow is a hypocrite.

How else shall I connect the dots?

I mean, is this person just being a dick? Is he trolling? Surely he wouldn't do any of those things, so it must be that he feels strongly about Tebow's Christianity. Where do you think he got those feelings? His JW upbringing or something else?

I need some help rationalizing this thread in my brain. Since you know what's going on, help me.

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 02:32 PM
it must be that he feels strongly about Tebow's Christianity

I feel very strongly about the bullshit character of Tim Tebow the Holy Asschild the media has presented to everyone and the goody-two-shoes who is a virgin uber-pure soul and giver of all things wonderful in life.

It's a load of crap. Can't wait to see his heathen crotch bulge.

pr_capone
03-26-2011, 02:33 PM
Okay, it's like this: One person on this site thinks that Tebow is a hypocrite because he's going to sell underwear. That person has a JW past.

Nobody else thinks Tebow is a hypocrite.

How else shall I connect the dots?

I mean, is this person just being a dick? Is he trolling? Surely he wouldn't do any of those things, so it must be that he feels strongly about Tebow's Christianity. Where do you think he got those feelings? His JW upbringing or something else?

I need some help rationalizing this thread in my brain. Since you know what's going on, help me.

I have the same past, and I think Clay would agree, I was way more in it than he was. I don't have any problem with Tebow selling skivvies. I'm sure Clay's past experience with the JW's have tainted him against Christianity. It affected mine for a long time. To say that Clay's comments come from some JW standard is just wrong. There is no such standard.

Some people are just extremely against organized religion and relish every opportunity to take a shot. I believe that this is the case with this thread. The added vitriol is because it is Tebow doing the modeling... one of the most famous Christians in the US and a Bronco to boot.

I can see where modeling a piece of clothing that emphasizes your crotch can be perceived as a gray area for a Christian. That said Clay is exaggerating the situation by calling him a hypocrite and a flaming homo.

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 02:34 PM
Who's the giant pussy who edited the thread title?

Mr. Laz
03-26-2011, 02:36 PM
unusual thread title change by the mods


i wonder if it was one of the new mods flexing ROFL

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 02:36 PM
Nobody else thinks Tebow is a hypocrite.


I guarantee you there are people who once looked up to Tim Tebow who are/will be disgusted by this.

But most of his fans probably won't care, because they're worshiping at his altar no matter what.

pr_capone
03-26-2011, 02:37 PM
Who's the giant pussy who edited the thread title?

Who do you think?

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-26-2011, 02:37 PM
There is a definite selling of sexuality in any ad where someone is wearing only underwear. Whether or not you believe that is hypocritical to the standards of the ever-changing Christianity is one thing, but you can't deny that the ad is peddling sex.

Phobia
03-26-2011, 02:38 PM
Who's the giant pussy who edited the thread title?

Wasn't me.

Phobia
03-26-2011, 02:39 PM
There is a definite selling of sexuality in any ad where someone is wearing only underwear. Whether or not you believe that is hypocritical to the standards of the ever-changing Christianity is one thing, but you can't deny that the ad is peddling sex.

Except none of us have seen the ad. Somebody is taking a giant leap of faith.

shirtsleeve
03-26-2011, 02:40 PM
I personally dont care that Tebow is modelling in his underwear. I do, however want to see his gf model in hers. Or without hers, even better.

Just sayin.

Phobia
03-26-2011, 02:41 PM
I personally dont care that Tebow is modelling in his underwear. I do, however want to see his gf model in hers. Or without hers, even better.

Just sayin.

This is an interesting position. You must not be gay.

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 02:42 PM
Except none of us have seen the ad. Somebody is taking a giant leap of faith.

I'll apologize to Tim Tebow if it's a tasteful ad.

I have a feeling it's going to be a low-angled photograph from a blowjob POV with Tebow staring seductively into the lens as sweat drips down his rippling abs and soaks the top of his tight briefs which are barely containing the straining herculean bulge beneath.

Mr. Laz
03-26-2011, 02:43 PM
There is a definite selling of sexuality in any ad where someone is wearing only underwear. Whether or not you believe that is hypocritical to the standards of the ever-changing Christianity is one thing, but you can't deny that the ad is peddling sex.
there is

There is also a certain amount of "look at me" pride in modeling your underwear too imo ... lust and hubris are of the original 7 aren't they?

I would think modeling lingerie of any kind would be frowned upon by the church. I suppose it depends on how strict the church. :shrug:

Mr. Flopnuts
03-26-2011, 02:43 PM
Who's the giant pussy who edited the thread title?

unusual thread title change by the mods


i wonder if it was one of the new mods flexing ROFL

I'm pretty sure it goes without saying, since I have a huge man crush on Claythan, but just in case, it wasn't me.

Phobia
03-26-2011, 02:43 PM
I'll apologize to Tim Tebow if it's a tasteful ad.

I have a feeling it's going to be a low-angled photograph from a blowjob POV with Tebow staring seductively into the lens as sweat drips down his rippling abs and soaks the top of his tight briefs which are barely containing the straining herculean bulge beneath.

This sounds like a whole lot of wishful thinking.

mlyonsd
03-26-2011, 02:44 PM
Jim Palmer. What a slut.

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 02:44 PM
I would think modeling lingerie of any kind would be frowned upon by the church. I suppose it depends on how strict the church. :shrug:

Church of Tebow Commandments:

1. Thou shalt use thy celebrity to rake in mad stacks of cash
2. Thou shalt establish cult of christian personality designed to appeal to a massive demographic

Bacon Cheeseburger
03-26-2011, 02:45 PM
I'm pretty sure it goes without saying, since I have a huge man crush on Claythan, but just in case, it wasn't me.
They taught you that in Mod 101, didn't they?

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-26-2011, 02:46 PM
Except none of us have seen the ad. Somebody is taking a giant leap of faith.

"where someone is wearing only underwear".

Mr. Flopnuts
03-26-2011, 02:46 PM
They taught you that in Mod 101, didn't they?

Of course. :fire: Now where's googlegoogle, so I can change his name back to phuqtardphuqtard.

Mr. Laz
03-26-2011, 02:47 PM
They taught you that in Mod 101, didn't they?Just wait until he starts drinking and modding.

LMAO

shirtsleeve
03-26-2011, 02:47 PM
This is an interesting position. You must not be gay.

Nor am I dead.

http://www.cnqn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/tim-tebow-girlfriend-erin-drewes-pictures.jpg

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 02:47 PM
This sounds like a whole lot of wishful thinking.

Let's be honest here. Tebow's already halfway there.

http://www.gq.com/images/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/feature/090109/tim-tebow/00002f.jpg

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-26-2011, 02:48 PM
If you pose in underwear only, there is a definitive "look at me" aspect. In addition to that, your body is being framed as a model for others to look up to. That's why they call them models, after all. It seems to me that such characteristics could be seen as a nascent idolatry.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-26-2011, 02:49 PM
Just wait until he starts drinking and modding.

LMAO

That was lesson 1. Always moderate while incredibly intoxicated. That way when you claim to have not done something, you'll truly believe it. :evil:

Phobia
03-26-2011, 02:53 PM
Let's be honest here. Tebow's already halfway there.

http://www.gq.com/images/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/feature/090109/tim-tebow/00002f.jpg

Woah. I'm convinced. I had no idea. What a hypocrite.

Just Passin' By
03-26-2011, 02:55 PM
I shouldn't be trying to incite anything, but it amazes me how your typical Christian will spout off "Don't judge, lest you yourself be judged" or some variation thereof, all while shoving their opinions down other peoples' throats.

Christians, and non-Christians, point to parts of the bible and misquote or misinterpret them. The "judge not" is one of the most abused passages. People who know they're doing stupid shit often refer to it as a means of preventing others from being critical of them.

That's not the intent of the passage. The passage you are referring to deals with hypocrisy, as it notes if you read further:

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Christians are actually called upon to judge, frequently, in the bible.


/bible class

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-26-2011, 02:57 PM
Christians, and non-Christians, point to parts of the bible and misquote or misinterpret them. The "judge not" is one of the most abused passages. People who know they're doing stupid shit often refer to it as a means of preventing others from being critical of them.

That's not the intent of the passage. The passage you are referring to deals with hypocrisy, as it notes if you read further:



Christians are actually called upon to judge, frequently, in the bible.


/bible class

From your excerpt, it seems that you should judge only to the extent to which you judge yourself. It deals with hypocrisy in a tangential fashion, but it's more focused on an even application of your judgments.

Essentially, hold yourself up to the standards to which you hold others.

/reading comprehension.

pr_capone
03-26-2011, 03:01 PM
From your excerpt, it seems that you should judge only to the extend to which you judge yourself. It deals with hypocrisy in a tangential fashion, but it's more focused on an even application of your judgments.

Essentially, hold yourself up to the standards to which you hold others.

/reading comprehension.

http://archer.gamebanana.com/img/ico/sprays/boom_headshot.jpg

shirtsleeve
03-26-2011, 03:05 PM
From your excerpt, it seems that you should judge only to the extent to which you judge yourself. It deals with hypocrisy in a tangential fashion, but it's more focused on an even application of your judgments.

Essentially, hold yourself up to the standards to which you hold others./reading comprehension.

Yup.

morphius
03-26-2011, 03:05 PM
unusual thread title change by the mods


i wonder if it was one of the new mods flexing ROFL
It was actually that evil morphius...

Just Passin' By
03-26-2011, 03:06 PM
From your excerpt, it seems that you should judge only to the extend to which you judge yourself. It deals with hypocrisy in a tangential fashion, but it's more focused on an even application of your judgments.

Essentially, hold yourself up to the standards to which you hold others.

/reading comprehension.

The downside of having gone up to FF4 is that Ffvb no longer blocks your posts. That means I'm subject to this sort of stupidity again.

Being told not to judge others for doing what you are doing is being told not to be a hypocrite. If there's a reading comprehension problem here, it's yours.

An upgraded Ffvb can't come fast enough. Even having to read you because others have quoted you is more than anyone should have to deal with.

Donger
03-26-2011, 03:07 PM
I'm pretty sure that Christians have sex. Probably some of them even with the opposite sex.

I still don't see what Tebow making a commercial in his underwear makes him a fraudulent Christian.

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 03:07 PM
It was actually that evil morphius...

Were you the one that changed my name to LittleBoPeep?

Just curious, never found out who did it.

morphius
03-26-2011, 03:08 PM
Were you the one that changed my name to LittleBoPeep?

Just curious, never found out who did it.
Nope, but now that you mention it I almost wish I had ROFL . Without looking it up, I think we can all make a pretty good guess at which new mod might do that...

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 03:10 PM
Nope, but now that you mention it I almost wish I had ROFL . Without looking it up, I think we can all make a pretty good guess at which new mod might do that...

Mr. Flopnuts?

And I remember I was logged out and couldn't log back in. I looked at a thread I posted in and realized someone changed my name.LMAO

pr_capone
03-26-2011, 03:11 PM
The downside of having gone up to FF4 is that Ffvb no longer blocks your posts. That means I'm subject to this sort of stupidity again.

Being told not to judge others for doing what you are doing is being told not to be a hypocrite. If there's a reading comprehension problem here, it's yours.

An upgraded Ffvb can't come fast enough. Even having to read you because others have quoted you is more than anyone should have to deal with.

http://i51.tinypic.com/k4zdqg.png

DaFace
03-26-2011, 03:11 PM
Were you the one that changed my name to LittleBoPeep?

Just curious, never found out who did it.

Ahem...

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 03:12 PM
Ahem...

So it was you? Are you gonna do it during the preseason when the Rams and Chiefs play against each other?

You can change it to Shatty Lite for now. Dude has a pr0n stache.

Mr. Laz
03-26-2011, 03:15 PM
I'm pretty sure that Christians have sex. Probably some of them even with the opposite sex.

I still don't see what Tebow making a commercial in his underwear makes him a fraudulent Christian.
umm ... the "party line" of Christian is that having sex out of wedlock is wrong. In fact, most of sex is considered wrong unless you are married and hide it away behind closed doors.

masturbation is wrong
being too sexy is wrong
i even think that using birth control is wrong (catholic?)

:shrug:

read up and you will probably find out the "why" of this topic

Mr. Laz
03-26-2011, 03:16 PM
It was actually that evil morphius...
is there a non-evil version?


:D

Donger
03-26-2011, 03:17 PM
umm ... the "party line" of Christian is that having sex out of wedlock is wrong. In fact, most of sex is considered wrong unless you are married and hide it away behind closed doors.

masturbation is wrong
being too sexy is wrong
i even think that using birth control is wrong (catholic?)

:shrug:

read up and you will probably find out the "why" of this topic

And is this commercial somehow promoting sex outside of marriage?

Mr. Laz
03-26-2011, 03:20 PM
And is this commercial somehow promoting sex outside of marriage?
lust

i suppose the same way that people were saying that the Glee magazine cover was wrong because it had girls in their underwear.

MoreLemonPledge
03-26-2011, 03:22 PM
So he's probably getting paid a hefty sum of money to flaunt his body. Is that not some form of prostitution?

Donger
03-26-2011, 03:24 PM
lust

i suppose the same way that people were saying that the Glee magazine cover was wrong because it had girls in their underwear.

I think that the goal with this commercial is to sell more underwear. That seems a logical conclusion.

And, if lust does come into play for someone watching the commercial, it's fine for married folk to have lust (and even express it) from what I understand about Christianity.

shirtsleeve
03-26-2011, 03:25 PM
So he's probably getting paid a hefty sum of money to flaunt his body. Is that not some form of prostitution?

Stripper, not prostitute...

SNR
03-26-2011, 03:28 PM
Wasn't Martin Luther a giant sex addict?

Donger
03-26-2011, 03:31 PM
For the Christians here:

Isn't it true that in order to be a Christian, all one must do is acknowledge that they have sinned and that Jesus died for those sins?

That's pretty much it, right?

morphius
03-26-2011, 03:31 PM
is there a non-evil version?


:D
Depends who you ask I suppose, ha!

Phobia
03-26-2011, 03:33 PM
For the Christians here:

Isn't it true that in order to be a Christian, all one must do is acknowledge that they have sinned and that Jesus died for those sins?

That's pretty much it, right?

That plus accepting Him, yes - that's the plan of salvation for many protestant religions. It's quite a bit more tricky in other sects but you get the gist.

pr_capone
03-26-2011, 03:36 PM
Wasn't Martin Luther a giant sex addict?

Yes... so what?

Moses fucked up and claimed he was the one that brought water out of the rock. Pope's have been removed from office. BTK was a Deacon at his church.

History is fraught with examples of Christians who fucked up.

As I understand it... the point of Christianity is not to run around pointing out everyone else's faults but to work on the person that you are, knowing all along that God understands that you are human and are bound to make some mistakes.

Phobia
03-26-2011, 03:41 PM
Yes... so what?

Moses ****ed up and claimed he was the one that brought water out of the rock. Pope's have been removed from office. BTK was a Deacon at his church.

History is fraught with examples of Christians who ****ed up.

As I understand it... the point of Christianity is not to run around pointing out everyone else's faults but to work on the person that you are, knowing all along that God understands that you are human and are bound to make some mistakes.

Very nice. Unfortunately there are a lot of people who don't get that. I know I'm a screwup. I'm human. I'm not perfect - never will be.

luv
03-26-2011, 03:52 PM
For the Christians here:

Isn't it true that in order to be a Christian, all one must do is acknowledge that they have sinned and that Jesus died for those sins?

That's pretty much it, right?

Pretty much. There's some repentance involved, too.

It's one thing for me to say I know I've sinned and know that Jesus died for my sins. It's another thing to be sorry for what I've done and accept the forgiveness.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-26-2011, 03:53 PM
The downside of having gone up to FF4 is that Ffvb no longer blocks your posts. That means I'm subject to this sort of stupidity again.

Being told not to judge others for doing what you are doing is being told not to be a hypocrite. If there's a reading comprehension problem here, it's yours.

An upgraded Ffvb can't come fast enough. Even having to read you because others have quoted you is more than anyone should have to deal with.

Let me rephrase this post:

My vagina is the consistency of 40 grit sandpaper because I don't know the content of the material that I use to make my (incorrect) point.

blaise
03-26-2011, 03:55 PM
I'm going to say that Tebow is a far greater asset to the human race than GoChiefs.

pr_capone
03-26-2011, 03:56 PM
Let me rephrase this post:

My vagina is the consistency of 40 grit sandpaper because I don't know the content of the material that I use to make my (incorrect) point.

ROFLROFLROFL

Mr. Laz
03-26-2011, 03:56 PM
Yes... so what?

Moses ****ed up and claimed he was the one that brought water out of the rock. Pope's have been removed from office. BTK was a Deacon at his church.

History is fraught with examples of Christians who ****ed up.

As I understand it... the point of Christianity is not to run around pointing out everyone else's faults but to work on the person that you are, knowing all along that God understands that you are human and are bound to make some mistakes.
you're correct, but think many people are going by what Christianity currently is in the public domain. Religion mixing in with politics and people running around yelling "sinner" at everyone.

imo this is what spurs the hypocrisy point being brought out.

Hasn't Tebow been publicly "preachy" in the past? Which is not what you described at all.

btw - i'm not trying to offend or fight ... just discussing.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-26-2011, 03:56 PM
They aren't called upon to judge. If they judge, they should make sure that they judge their accused with the same ferocity they judge themselves.

Hypocrisy is a symptom of the disease, which is why I said it was tangential.

luv
03-26-2011, 04:03 PM
you're correct, but think many people are going by what Christianity currently is in the public domain. Religion mixing in with politics and people running around yelling "sinner" at everyone.

imo this is what spurs the hypocrisy point being brought out.

Hasn't Tebow been publicly "preachy" in the past? Which is not what you described at all.

btw - i'm not trying to offend or fight ... just discussing.

Is there anything wrong with Tebow modeling underwear? No.

Is there a high probability that people's perception of him, as a Christian, will be affected by him modeling underwear? Possibly.

If he cares strongly about how people perceive him, as a Christian, should he have done it? Probably not.

See how it's not wrong, as long as it doesn't change his relationship with his God, then I say what he does and his reasons behind doing so are completely his own business.

He's not judging us when he talks about his God, so what gives us the right to judge him?

I am also just throwing stuff out there for discussion.

Bacon Cheeseburger
03-26-2011, 04:04 PM
Depends who you ask I suppose, ha!
I'd answer with a resounding NO.

Phobia
03-26-2011, 04:37 PM
All of this debate and yet, not a single picture or clip of Tebow in underware. Forgive me if I reserve the right to make my mind up at a later date.

Count Zarth
03-26-2011, 04:42 PM
All of this debate and yet, not a single picture or clip of Tebow in underware. Forgive me if I reserve the right to make my mind up at a later date.

I can't wait to see Tebow in some tasteful under garments:

http://nycmagnet.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/long-johns.jpg

Easy 6
03-26-2011, 04:44 PM
As I understand it... the point of Christianity is not to run around pointing out everyone else's faults but to work on the person that you are, knowing all along that God understands that you are human and are bound to make some mistakes.

Nice.

FAX
03-26-2011, 04:55 PM
Wasn't Martin Luther a giant sex addict?

I think you may be thinking of Augustine of Hippo (St. Augustine), Mr. SNR.

He was a great influence on people like John Calvin, Martin Luther, and other Protestant reformists and his views have been reflected throughout church history. In his "Confessions", he goes to great length to relate his sexual sins, for example and winds up postulating that sex was sinful. This, in turn, ultimately led to generations of human lives steeped in guilt and shame.

The West's prudish views of sexuality are dominated by Augustine's dogma. He was a powerful philosopher, to be sure. But personally, I think we would all have been better off if Augustine had just stayed out of the church entirely. He was a little crazy, in my opinion.

FAX

Bwana
03-26-2011, 04:57 PM
That was lesson 1. Always moderate while incredibly intoxicated. That way when you claim to have not done something, you'll truly believe it. :evil:

Heh, Remember Endelt and his mod style? LMAO

rambleonthruthefog
03-26-2011, 05:08 PM
Who's the giant pussy who edited the thread title?

i'm not sure who edited the thread title, but i'm positive of who the giant pussy is. its you, nerd.

Gonzo
03-26-2011, 05:16 PM
Don't we have a sub-forum for threads like this?
If not, we should. Hey fng mods! Make it happen.
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Bwana
03-26-2011, 05:19 PM
Don't we have a sub-forum for threads like this?
If not, we should. Hey fng mods! Make it happen.
Posted via Mobile Device

DC? :evil:

Easy 6
03-26-2011, 05:25 PM
LMAO

New mods are fun.

Gonzo
03-26-2011, 05:42 PM
DC? :evil:
:D

I've always liked you Bwana but now? Now I have a man-crush.
Posted via Mobile Device

Phobia
03-26-2011, 05:46 PM
Oh please. Stop pining all over Bwana. I did it.

Bwana
03-26-2011, 07:13 PM
Oh please. Stop pining all over Bwana. I did it.

Hey, I wasn't going to say a word. LMAO Well played though.

Phobia
03-26-2011, 07:26 PM
I wasn't going to do it but it was by request and technically, it had become a religion thread.

Clay doesn't participate over here because he can't attention whore quite as effectively. I think I'm going to start moving all his threads here.... or better yet, I'll make a Clay subforum. I wonder how much traffic he'd get there. Let's see how good for this site he really is...

Bwana
03-26-2011, 07:32 PM
I wasn't going to do it but it was by request and technically, it had become a religion thread.

Clay doesn't participate over here because he can't attention whore quite as effectively. I think I'm going to start moving all his threads here.... or better yet, I'll make a Clay subforum. I wonder how much traffic he'd get there. Let's see how good for this site he really is...

LMAO

Welcome back.

Donger
03-26-2011, 08:19 PM
I wasn't going to do it but it was by request and technically, it had become a religion thread.

Clay doesn't participate over here because he can't attention whore quite as effectively. I think I'm going to start moving all his threads here.... or better yet, I'll make a Clay subforum. I wonder how much traffic he'd get there. Let's see how good for this site he really is...

LMAO

stevieray
03-26-2011, 08:42 PM
Essentially, hold yourself up to the standards to which you hold others.

/reading comprehension.

incorrect.

Gonzo
03-26-2011, 08:44 PM
I wasn't going to do it but it was by request and technically, it had become a religion thread.

Clay doesn't participate over here because he can't attention whore quite as effectively. I think I'm going to start moving all his threads here.... or better yet, I'll make a Clay subforum. I wonder how much traffic he'd get there. Let's see how good for this site he really is...

ROFL
That would be great. I fully support this idea.
Posted via Mobile Device

Rams Fan
03-26-2011, 09:02 PM
I wasn't going to do it but it was by request and technically, it had become a religion thread.

Clay doesn't participate over here because he can't attention whore quite as effectively. I think I'm going to start moving all his threads here.... or better yet, I'll make a Clay subforum. I wonder how much traffic he'd get there. Let's see how good for this site he really is...

Do it.LMAO

Mr. Flopnuts
03-26-2011, 11:04 PM
I wasn't going to do it but it was by request and technically, it had become a religion thread.

Clay doesn't participate over here because he can't attention whore quite as effectively. I think I'm going to start moving all his threads here.... or better yet, I'll make a Clay subforum. I wonder how much traffic he'd get there. Let's see how good for this site he really is...

LMAO The Claythan Zone.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-27-2011, 12:06 AM
incorrect.

Explain with details from the aforementioned texts, please.

Count Zarth
03-27-2011, 12:34 AM
Clay doesn't participate over here because he can't attention whore quite as effectively.

You're a tard monkey. I post in this forum several times a week and start political threads.

vailpass
03-27-2011, 10:46 AM
You're a tard monkey. I post in this forum several times a week and start political threads.

"The Catholic Church/Christianity triggers my inferiority complex and points up insecurities hammered into me while growing up in the lunatic fringe cult of JW" is hardly a political thread.

Count Zarth
03-27-2011, 11:13 AM
"The Catholic Church/Christianity triggers my inferiority complex and points up insecurities hammered into me while growing up in the lunatic fringe cult of JW" is hardly a political thread.

You, too, are an idiot. Lately I've been posting on Libya and Obama.

vailpass
03-27-2011, 11:16 AM
You, too, are an idiot. Lately I've been posting on Libya and Obama.

Trying to open a second location for the insecure attention whore store?

Count Zarth
03-27-2011, 11:23 AM
No, jackass, I just enjoy discussing current events.

HonestChieffan
03-27-2011, 11:26 AM
This sort of thing needs to stay in the lounge.

Count Zarth
03-27-2011, 11:29 AM
This sort of thing needs to stay in the lounge.

Do not question Phil's judgment. He is never wrong.

Phobia
03-27-2011, 12:13 PM
Do not question Phil's judgment. He is never wrong.

I was wrong when I encouraged you to stay at ChiefsPlanet. I figured you'd grow up in 3 or 4 years. But here we are 8 years later...

HonestChieffan
03-27-2011, 12:16 PM
I was wrong when I encouraged you to stay at ChiefsPlanet. I figured you'd grow up in 3 or 4 years. But here we are 8 years later...


Yea but your Bow hat still rocks.

Count Zarth
03-27-2011, 12:34 PM
I was wrong when I encouraged you to stay at ChiefsPlanet. I figured you'd grow up in 3 or 4 years. But here we are 8 years later...

I'm just following your lead, assclown.

ClevelandBronco
03-27-2011, 12:37 PM
We're laughing at you, goatse, but at least the little attention we're paying is more than you ever got from your parents.

vailpass
03-27-2011, 01:36 PM
We're laughing at you, goatse, but at least the little attention we're paying is more than you ever got from your parents.

Maybe it would start to heal the gaping chasm in his psyche if we all sang him Happy Birthday Merry Christmas Trick or Treat. Dude is a prime example of what JW does to people.

Phobia
03-27-2011, 07:41 PM
Maybe it would start to heal the gaping chasm in his psyche if we all sang him Happy Birthday Merry Christmas Trick or Treat. Dude is a prime example of what JW does to people.

Nah - there's nothing wrong with him. He's awesome. Just ask him.

pr_capone
03-27-2011, 07:46 PM
Maybe it would start to heal the gaping chasm in his psyche if we all sang him Happy Birthday Merry Christmas Trick or Treat. Dude is a prime example of what JW does to people.

That shit is nothing to joke about.

Phobia
03-27-2011, 08:22 PM
That shit is nothing to joke about.

For all intents and purposes, you have adapted. That idiot raiders fan has adapted. It's going on a decade. Clayton has not. He isn't within 5 years of adapting. He may never adapt.

I had a strange religion upbringing handicap too. Which is why I kinda felt bad for Clay for a long time. But he brings a lot of this crap on himself, JW or not.

Donger
03-27-2011, 08:40 PM
GoChiefs is what, 30? Sorry, but I think that a person reaching that age of even moderate intelligence no longer gets to use a bizarre religious upbringing as justification for being a dickhead.

pr_capone
03-27-2011, 08:49 PM
For all intents and purposes, you have adapted. That idiot raiders fan has adapted. It's going on a decade. Clayton has not. He isn't within 5 years of adapting. He may never adapt.

I had a strange religion upbringing handicap too. Which is why I kinda felt bad for Clay for a long time. But he brings a lot of this crap on himself, JW or not.

I agree that he brings most of it on himself. That said, the comment I quoted is akin to taunting someone for being beaten as a kid. Granted, there was no violent or forceful physical violation, but they caused some serious mental damage. This is something that was done to us and we had absolutely zero say in.

It also hit home just a bit. 8 years later and I still can't bring myself to sing happy birthday to someone. I get seriously uncomfortable and will do just about anything to get out of going to a birthday party.

Phobia
03-27-2011, 09:02 PM
I agree that he brings most of it on himself. That said, the comment I quoted is akin to taunting someone for being beaten as a kid. Granted, there was no violent or forceful physical violation, but they caused some serious mental damage. This is something that was done to us and we had absolutely zero say in.

It also hit home just a bit. 8 years later and I still can't bring myself to sing happy birthday to someone. I get seriously uncomfortable and will do just about anything to get out of going to a birthday party.

Fair enough. But you're not a dickhead on this site. You've always treated everybody else with respect.

Count Zarth
03-28-2011, 03:42 AM
Fair enough. But you're not a dickhead on this site. You've always treated everybody else with respect.

More than you can say.

Mile High Mania
03-28-2011, 04:13 AM
You, too, are an idiot. Lately I've been posting on Libya and Obama.

Branching out into more areas in which you have no expertise... that's good. You're kinda like this site's Perez Hilton.

Baby Lee
03-28-2011, 06:14 AM
lust

i suppose the same way that people were saying that the Glee magazine cover was wrong because it had girls in their underwear.

Girls being the operant term, girls who are supposed to be high schoolers.

Not that I think that the cover was 'wrong.'

Baby Lee
03-28-2011, 06:23 AM
Christians, and non-Christians, point to parts of the bible and misquote or misinterpret them. The "judge not" is one of the most abused passages. People who know they're doing stupid shit often refer to it as a means of preventing others from being critical of them.

That's not the intent of the passage. The passage you are referring to deals with hypocrisy, as it notes if you read further:



Christians are actually called upon to judge, frequently, in the bible.


/bible class

Judging isn't exercising Christian prerogative, it's exerting hubris in deciding that they've sufficiently discerned to provide the opinion of God.

Judging others is as big a sin as any other sin.

That is altogether different from providing guidance WHEN ASKED.

"You're a whore, and you're gonna burn in hell" - sin

"You have asked me if your indiscriminate sex acts are sinful, and I submit that my humble reading is that these kinds of acts can interfere with your relationship with God. I would invite you to study xxx and yyy, and then pray regarding the matter." - not sin.

vailpass
03-28-2011, 10:50 AM
That shit is nothing to joke about.

Who's joking? I had a favorite relative sucked into it by marriage, took her 15 years to escape. When she did the things those people did to her, people she thought were her friends, were incredible.
Their reactions served to cement for her that she had done the right thing in escaping and we got our family member back.

RNR
03-28-2011, 10:57 AM
GoChiefs is what, 30? Sorry, but I think that a person reaching that age of even moderate intelligence no longer gets to use a bizarre religious upbringing as justification for being a dickhead.

Could not agree more~

pr_capone
03-28-2011, 11:05 AM
Who's joking? I had a favorite relative sucked into it by marriage, took her 15 years to escape. When she did the things those people did to her, people she thought were her friends, were incredible.
Their reactions served to cement for her that she had done the right thing in escaping and we got our family member back.

Awesome you got your family member back! I had a knee jerk reaction to your singing him happy birthday comment. Like I told Phobia, it has been 8 years since I left and I still can't bring myself to sing happy birthday to someone.

Someone singing it to me would be like snapping a belt around someone who had been beaten as a kid... not helpful. Very much the opposite effect of what your post intended.

Phobia
03-28-2011, 01:21 PM
More than you can say.

I treated you with respect when nobody else would. But you've done nothing to earn it for the past several years. Charity is over, Clay. What have you done for me lately?

vailpass
03-28-2011, 06:37 PM
Awesome you got your family member back! I had a knee jerk reaction to your singing him happy birthday comment. Like I told Phobia, it has been 8 years since I left and I still can't bring myself to sing happy birthday to someone.

Someone singing it to me would be like snapping a belt around someone who had been beaten as a kid... not helpful. Very much the opposite effect of what your post intended.

Sorry if I offended man, I wouldn't do that (to you) on purpose. Best wishes for your journey back.

pr_capone
03-28-2011, 08:24 PM
Sorry if I offended man, I wouldn't do that (to you) on purpose. Best wishes for your journey back.

No offense taken brudda.

Calcountry
03-29-2011, 01:41 PM
I know exactly what I believe.Clay, you are just mad because you are a weak brother, lusting for the flesh, and you blame Tebow for putting that in front of you. The sin is in your heart, not his. Nobody told you to sit there and lust on him.

Von Dumbass
03-31-2011, 02:07 PM
Here is the immoral Jockey add.....

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uorAoIAcpZM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Count Zarth
03-31-2011, 02:30 PM
OK, he's just a huge flaming homo.

ClevelandBronco
03-31-2011, 04:04 PM
Here is the immoral Jockey add.....

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uorAoIAcpZM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Holy shit. Did I see him flash his naked wrists in that ad?

Donger
03-31-2011, 04:07 PM
Here is the immoral Jockey add.....

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uorAoIAcpZM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

LMAO

Count Zarth
03-31-2011, 04:27 PM
Fuck, he's sexy.

Just walkin' round like a big stud...

WhitiE
04-03-2011, 11:44 AM
good call on this one....

vailpass
04-03-2011, 12:10 PM
****, he's sexy.

Just walkin' round like a big stud...

Muttering stupid shit like this has got you to over 104,000 posts on this board alone. Mind boggling in it's pathetisadness.

Calcountry
04-30-2011, 03:11 PM
Muttering stupid shit like this has got you to over 104,000 posts on this board alone. Mind boggling in it's pathetisadness.I know huh? It's as if he is that angry german kid and he can't find escape.

Count Zarth
04-30-2011, 06:10 PM
cool bump