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Direckshun
03-28-2011, 02:46 PM
Question in the thread title.

Bowers, dropping like a rock now due to physicals giving him fits.

Would you draft the guy, even with his injury issues, at 21?

Chocolate Hog
03-28-2011, 02:47 PM
Yes the guy is a beast.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-28-2011, 02:50 PM
If we did, I'd hope that we would move back to a 4-3.

talastan
03-28-2011, 02:50 PM
If he were to clear the physicals, which he would have to if we picked him at 21, I'd be fine with him. Could he play NT?

Chocolate Hog
03-28-2011, 02:51 PM
If we did, I'd hope that we would move back to a 4-3.

Why?

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-28-2011, 02:54 PM
Why?

Because in Crennel's defense he'd be two-gapping, which would disrupt what he's best at.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-28-2011, 02:54 PM
If he were to clear the physicals, which he would have to if we picked him at 21, I'd be fine with him. Could he play NT?

What the fuck?

Chocolate Hog
03-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Because in Crennel's defense he'd be two-gapping, which would disrupt what he's best at.

I'd have him drop 10 pounds and play OLB. Dude is an athletic freak.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-28-2011, 02:59 PM
I'd have him drop 10 pounds and play OLB. Dude is an athletic freak.

6'3 270 is still pretty big for an OLB.

Chocolate Hog
03-28-2011, 03:01 PM
It is. I'd put money on it that Bowers is better in space than Hali though.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-28-2011, 03:04 PM
It is. I'd put money on it that Bowers is better in space than Hali though.

Oh I'm sure that he is, but would you want either one of those guys playing the LOLB in a Crennel defense?

It just seems to make more sense to have both of those guys doing what they do well: kill quarterbacks.

Chocolate Hog
03-28-2011, 03:09 PM
Oh I'm sure that he is, but would you want either one of those guys playing the LOLB in a Crennel defense?

It just seems to make more sense to have both of those guys doing what they do well: kill quarterbacks.

Good point but then we'd have to gut the linebackers where as if we stayed with the 3-4 I'd argue we'd be just a NT away from a dominate defense.

Dicky McElephant
03-28-2011, 03:11 PM
If we did, I'd hope that we would move back to a 4-3.

Fuck.

Hali - Dorsey - Smith - Bowers

:whackit:

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-28-2011, 03:15 PM
Good point but then we'd have to gut the linebackers where as if we stayed with the 3-4 I'd argue we'd be just a NT away from a dominate defense.

No we wouldn't.

4-3:

Hali-Dorsey-Smith/Jackson-Bowers

Johnson-Belcher-Williams

Carr-Berry-Lewis-Flowers

What's so bad about that defense?

You bring Gilberry in as a pass rusher from the 3T slot on third downs, and that team could really get after the QB.

It would never happen, but I see that as a good look.

Chocolate Hog
03-28-2011, 03:25 PM
No we wouldn't.

4-3:

Hali-Dorsey-Smith/Jackson-Bowers

Johnson-Belcher-Williams

Carr-Berry-Lewis-Flowers

What's so bad about that defense?

You bring Gilberry in as a pass rusher from the 3T slot on third downs, and that team could really get after the QB.

It would never happen, but I see that as a good look.

Johnson isn't nearly the kind of player that he is when playing ILB in the 3-4. I don't know how good Belcher would be as a MLB in the 3-4 and Williams is just bleh.

Otter
03-28-2011, 03:46 PM
If we did, I'd hope that we would move back to a 4-3.

Anyone even thinking that's a possibility under Haley/Pioli needs to put in their 'not happen' wish box' along with becoming an astronaut, banging Farah Fawcett and a Chiefs Super Bowl under Marty/Carl.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-28-2011, 03:52 PM
Anyone even thinking that's a possibility under Haley/Pioli needs to put in their 'not happen' wish box' along with becoming an astronaut, banging Farah Fawcett and a Chiefs Super Bowl under Marty/Carl.

No fucking shit, dumbass:


It would never happen, but I see that as a good look.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-28-2011, 03:54 PM
Johnson isn't nearly the kind of player that he is when playing ILB in the 3-4. I don't know how good Belcher would be as a MLB in the 3-4 and Williams is just bleh.

Billay, that's really foolish. DJ always showed the ability to play well in a 4-3, his problem was a lack of desire.

the Talking Can
03-28-2011, 03:56 PM
why in the name of jesus would we want to move Hali back to a 4-3?

he's one of the most disruptive players in the league

Saul Good
03-28-2011, 04:00 PM
Either he's okay physically or he's ruined forever. If he falls to us, it's because he's ruined. I wouldn't touch him if he falls that far.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-28-2011, 04:01 PM
why in the name of jesus would we want to move Hali back to a 4-3?

he's one of the most disruptive players in the league

Because his role would be virtually identical. He's a standup DE in this scheme. I fail to see how the 10% of the time he drops back in coverage would cause a demonstrative decrease in his ability to rush the passer.

Otter
03-28-2011, 04:14 PM
No ****ing shit, dumbass:

Then why you bringing it up cock smooch?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/Metal_Militia666/jsbstash_1957_24433020.jpg

You remind me of a drunk angry frat boy at 2am who struck out all night full of cum and testosterone looking for a fight outside a closed bar.

BossChief
03-28-2011, 04:30 PM
We arent, but even if we did go back o a 4-3 defense... Tyson Jackson and Tamba Hali play the same spot of LDE in that front.

It would also mean that Bowers and Gilberry would be our RDEs. Having Dorsey and Smith manning the inside with Edwards and Torbino (or a rook) backing them up is one hell of an outstanding DL IMO that could stop the run and rush the passer with equal effectiveness...maybe a tad overkill in resources though.

Direckshun
03-28-2011, 04:45 PM
4-3:

Hali-Dorsey-Smith/Jackson-Bowers

Johnson-Belcher-Williams

Carr-Berry-Lewis-Flowers

What's so bad about that defense?

The linebackers.

Von Dumbass
03-28-2011, 05:05 PM
I don't see Bowers being available at your spot when there are at least ten 4-3 teams picking before KC.

Chocolate Hog
03-28-2011, 06:03 PM
Billay, that's really foolish. DJ always showed the ability to play well in a 4-3, his problem was a lack of desire.

Not foolish at all he was a much better ILB fuck thats what he did in college.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-28-2011, 06:22 PM
Not foolish at all he was a much better ILB fuck thats what he did in college.

Then play him at MLB and have Demorrio as your will backer and Belcher as the backup.

SLB is a hell of a lot easier hole to fill than NT in a 3-4, anyway.