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petegz28
03-28-2011, 08:56 PM
Cars will be banned from London and all other cities across Europe under a draconian EU masterplan to cut CO2 emissions by 60 per cent over the next 40 years.

The European Commission on Monday unveiled a "single European transport area" aimed at enforcing "a profound shift in transport patterns for passengers" by 2050.

The plan also envisages an end to cheap holiday flights from Britain to southern Europe with a target that over 50 per cent of all journeys above 186 miles should be by rail.

Top of the EU's list to cut climate change emissions is a target of "zero" for the number of petrol and diesel-driven cars and lorries in the EU's future cities.

Siim Kallas, the EU transport commission, insisted that Brussels directives and new taxation of fuel would be used to force people out of their cars and onto "alternative" means of transport.

"That means no more conventionally fuelled cars in our city centres," he said. "Action will follow, legislation, real action to change behaviour."

The Association of British Drivers rejected the proposal to ban cars as economically disastrous and as a "crazy" restriction on mobility.

"I suggest that he goes and finds himself a space in the local mental asylum," said Hugh Bladon, a spokesman for the BDA.

"If he wants to bring everywhere to a grinding halt and to plunge us into a new dark age, he is on the right track. We have to keep things moving. The man is off his rocker."

Mr Kallas has denied that the EU plan to cut car use by half over the next 20 years, before a total ban in 2050, will limit personal mobility or reduce Europe's economic competitiveness.

"Curbing mobility is not an option, neither is business as usual. We can break the transport system's dependence on oil without sacrificing its efficiency and compromising mobility. It can be win-win," he claimed.

Christopher Monckton, Ukip's transport spokesman said: "The EU must be living in an alternate reality, where they can spend trillions and ban people from their cars.

"This sort of greenwashing grandstanding adds nothing and merely highlights their grandiose ambitions."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8411336/EU-to-ban-cars-from-cities-by-2050.html

petegz28
03-28-2011, 08:56 PM
"I suggest that he goes and finds himself a space in the local mental asylum," said Hugh Bladon, a spokesman for the BDA.

"If he wants to bring everywhere to a grinding halt and to plunge us into a new dark age, he is on the right track. We have to keep things moving. The man is off his rocker."


LMAO ROFL

BucEyedPea
03-28-2011, 09:28 PM
This is coming to America too. Why do you think the left is pushing his speed trains.

AustinChief
03-28-2011, 10:28 PM
I lived in Spain for a year and rented a car ONE time.. and only then because the route I wanted to take didn't have any available trains because it was Setmana Santa. I probably rode in a car less than a dozen times over that year.

I can see this working for a number of cities just fine. That being said, it should NOT be a blanket EU law.. that is just bonkers. I could see an incentive program working though. Some sort of bonus/perk for cities that can reduce automobile traffic by a certain percentage.

If you haven't lived in Europe(or New York City maybe), don't even ATTEMPT to process this... the entire concept of being carless was inconceivable to me until I was over there.

BucEyedPea
03-28-2011, 10:40 PM
I stayed in Europe for a summer. I thought Spain's cities were toxic from the fumes from autos.

AustinChief
03-28-2011, 11:21 PM
I stayed in Europe for a summer. I thought Spain's cities were toxic from the fumes from autos.

Where the hell did you stay? The only cities that I experienced anything close to that were Barcelona and Seville (I skipped Madrid but I'm sure it is worse)... The majority of the cities in Spain are not like that AT ALL.

cdcox
03-28-2011, 11:24 PM
This is coming to America too. Why do you think the left is pushing his speed trains.

You don't use high speed trains inside cities. You use them between cities.

cdcox
03-28-2011, 11:29 PM
If I lived in NY or London, I doubt I would own a car. Too big of a hassle to park and you can easily get anywhere you want to go via public transportation. The public transportation systems in Boston and DC aren't dense enough or extensive for me to consider going without a car, but I'd use public transportation for most of my trips.

Silock
03-29-2011, 12:53 AM
You don't use high speed trains inside cities. You use them between cities.

You get the hell out of here with your logic and sound thinking!!!

ClevelandBronco
03-29-2011, 12:58 AM
Surely the EU will make allowances for the all electric Chevy Volt.

BucEyedPea
03-29-2011, 01:01 AM
Where the hell did you stay? The only cities that I experienced anything close to that were Barcelona and Seville (I skipped Madrid but I'm sure it is worse)... The majority of the cities in Spain are not like that AT ALL.

Barcelona

BucEyedPea
03-29-2011, 01:08 AM
You don't use high speed trains inside cities. You use them between cities.
True. I was thinking that one arrives and leave from a city to get between them.

MagicHef
03-29-2011, 02:35 AM
The ban is only going to be for petrol and diesel cars, correct? Are they envisioning no cars, or simply alternative fuel cars?

mlyonsd
03-29-2011, 06:59 AM
Good for them.

Iowanian
03-29-2011, 02:12 PM
Great. Cheap oil for us.

Hydrae
03-29-2011, 02:26 PM
I lived in Spain for a year and rented a car ONE time.. and only then because the route I wanted to take didn't have any available trains because it was Setmana Santa. I probably rode in a car less than a dozen times over that year.

I can see this working for a number of cities just fine. That being said, it should NOT be a blanket EU law.. that is just bonkers. I could see an incentive program working though. Some sort of bonus/perk for cities that can reduce automobile traffic by a certain percentage.

If you haven't lived in Europe(or New York City maybe), don't even ATTEMPT to process this... the entire concept of being carless was inconceivable to me until I was over there.

I had a friend in the 80's who had moved from NYC to Oregon. He was 30+ years old and had never driven in his life.

healthpellets
03-29-2011, 02:33 PM
Great. Cheap oil for us.

by then? fat chance. oil production will be on a steep decline and with ChIndia having increased their populations by 50%, the world will be a scary place in 40 years.

Douche Baggins
03-30-2011, 06:46 PM
Is Scotland part of the EU?

I lived in Scotland for 11 years and we drove everywhere.

el borracho
03-30-2011, 07:40 PM
This is nearly meaningless considering the accessible oil supply will be long gone by 2050, anyway.