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HonestChieffan
03-31-2011, 06:45 PM
How proud are Kansans with this nutbag?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/52339.html

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Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius says patient outcomes in the United States are like those in “a developing country” – and that they’ll stay that way if the health care reform law is repealed.

“The delivery system changes are what will affect underlying costs, and that impacts everybody,” Sebelius said Thursday. “We pay 2 1/2 times what anybody else pays in the world, and our care outcomes look like we’re in a developing country.”

The United States actually ranks well above developing countries on multiple health indicators, coming in right above the European Union on infant mortality and slightly below Portugal on life expectancy, according to the CIA World Factbook.

petegz28
03-31-2011, 08:20 PM
I'll take our current health system over any other in the world, thank you very much.

trndobrd
03-31-2011, 08:39 PM
She's the same one who believed Missouri roads were scarier than the 9/11 attacks.

Sannyasi
03-31-2011, 11:22 PM
I love how you only posted the part of the article that backed up your position, cutting off the rest of it.

trndobrd
04-01-2011, 08:26 AM
I love how you only posted the part of the article that backed up your position, cutting off the rest of it.

Please highlight the portion of the complete article (below) indicating political hack Kathleen Sebelius did not say health care outcomes in the US are like a developing country, or that health care in the US are similar to a developing country:


Kathleen Sebelius: Health care outcomes in U.S. like 'a developing country'Kathleen Sebelius was critical of how long it takes to get new medical treatments approved.

SARAH KLIFF | 3/31/11 4:47 PM EDT
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius says patient outcomes in the United States are like those in “a developing country” – and that they’ll stay that way if the health care reform law is repealed.

“The delivery system changes are what will affect underlying costs, and that impacts everybody,” Sebelius said Thursday. “We pay 2 1/2 times what anybody else pays in the world, and our care outcomes look like we're in a developing country.”

The United States actually ranks well above developing countries on multiple health indicators, coming in right above the European Union on infant mortality and slightly below Portugal on life expectancy, according to the CIA World Factbook.

The United States does, however, regularly pay much more for common medical procedures than other developed nations. Prices for everything from the delivery of a baby to the replacement of a hip in the United States are more than double the costs in countries like Canada and Germany, according to the International Federation of Health Plans' annual survey of medical costs.

Speaking Thursday at an event sponsored by Bloomberg Government, Sebelius was also critical of how long it takes to get new medical treatments approved in the United States.

“There are alarming statistics, I think, that tax payers should be outraged about,” she said. “It takes about 17 years from the identification of a procedure, to have it fully incorporated into the medical community. But in health care, we say that's OK.”

Sebelius said she’s confident the courts will ultimately uphold the health care reform law President Barack Obama signed last year – and that even if the courts strike down the law’s individual mandate, the rest of it can stand.

Still, as a practical matter, she said health care reform would be in a "precarious" position without the individual mandate.

"I do think it's a precarious notion of not having some kind of individual responsibility," she said. "It's like buying car insurance after you've had the accident, being able to call your insurance company and say ‘by the way, I just had a multi-car collision.’”

Frazod
04-01-2011, 08:28 AM
She's the same one who believed Missouri roads were scarier than the 9/11 attacks.

Apparently you've never driven on I-44 between Rolla and Springfield.

chiefsnorth
04-01-2011, 08:29 AM
Pelosi of the prairie

trndobrd
04-01-2011, 08:33 AM
Apparently you've never driven on I-44 between Rolla and Springfield.


I have, but she was talking about I-70.

vailpass
04-01-2011, 09:56 AM
Worst. Cabinet. Ever.

Pitt Gorilla
04-01-2011, 10:07 PM
She didn't lose to VCU so she has that going for her.Yeah, not Pitt Gorilla. Mine would have been funnier.