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Direckshun
04-05-2011, 09:55 AM
Truly amazing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/world/africa/06ivory.html?_r=1&hp

France in Talks on Surrender of Ivory Coast Strongman
By ADAM NOSSITER and J. DAVID GOODMAN
Published: April 5, 2011

TAKORADI, Ghana — The French government said Tuesday that it was negotiating the surrender of Ivory Coast’s strongman, Laurent Gbagbo, a day after the United Nations and France struck targets at his residence, his offices and two of his military bases in a significant escalation of the international intervention into the political crisis engulfing the nation.

France’s prime minister, François Fillon, told members of Parliament that French representatives were negotiating with two Ivory Coast generals loyal to Mr. Gbagbo as the forces of his rival, Alassane Ouattara, surrounded the presidential palace in Abidjan, the nation’s economic capital. Mr. Gbagbo was in a bunker beneath his residence, a spokesman for Mr. Ouattara’s prime minister, Guillaume Soro, said early Tuesday.

The Associated Press, citing an unidentified senior diplomat, reported that Mr. Ouattara’s forces had taken over the residence. A spokesman for Mr. Ouattara also said that the residence had been overrun, the BBC reported. The fighting was reported to have grown in the hours before dawn, with news reports and witnesses speaking of sustained machine-gun and heavy-weapons fire ringing out over the city, and people pinned down in their homes.

France, which showed a newfound muscularity by championing military strikes against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s forces in Libya, attacked heavy artillery and armored vehicles at Mr. Gbagbo’s residence and presidential offices on Monday, a French military spokesman said.

The United Nations said Monday that it had also carried out helicopter strikes against Mr. Gbagbo’s forces at two of his bases to prevent them from using the kinds of heavy weapons that have been aimed at civilians and United Nations personnel during the crisis.

The international attacks coincided with a renewed assault by local troops loyal to Mr. Ouattara, the man recognized by the United Nations, the African Union and other international bodies as the winner of last year’s presidential election.

With the attacks under way, Mr. Soro, Mr. Ouattara’s prime minister, declared Monday that Mr. Gbagbo’s rule was only hours away from ending.

“Our forces have made significant advances,” he said in a telephone interview. “In a few hours, it will be all over. We came into the city of Abidjan today, and I think it will soon be finished.”

International officials have long called on Mr. Gbagbo to step down, but Secretary General Ban Ki-moon took pains to say that the United Nations was “not a party to the conflict.” He said it had taken action only because forces loyal to Mr. Gbagbo had used “mortars, rocket-propelled grenades and heavy machine guns against the civilian population.”

Mr. Ban also noted that Mr. Gbagbo’s forces had fired on United Nations patrols and attacked the organization’s headquarters in Abidjan “with heavy-caliber sniper fire as well as mortars and rocket-propelled grenades,” wounding four peacekeepers.

France, Ivory Coast’s former colonial ruler, has more than 1,500 troops in the country. In a statement Monday, France said it had joined the operation there at the request of the United Nations, with the intent of “neutralizing heavy weapons that are used against the civilian population and United Nations personnel in Abidjan.”

President Obama said Tuesday that he strongly supported “the role that United Nations peacekeepers are playing as they enforce their mandate to protect civilians, and I welcome the efforts of French forces who are supporting that mission.”

He added that the violence “could have been averted had Laurent Gbagbo respected the results of last year’s presidential election,” and that to prevent further bloodshed Mr. Gbagbo “must stand down immediately, and direct those who are fighting on his behalf to lay down their arms.”

United Nations peacekeepers have traded deadly fire with pro-Gbagbo forces before, but the latest military involvement represented a notable increase in the international effort to force Mr. Gbagbo to step down since losing the election last November.

Still, it also risked bolstering one of Mr. Gbagbo’s most potent propaganda weapons: that he is being singled out by foreign forces, notably the French and the United Nations, in an attack on Ivorian sovereignty. These ideas, repeated nightly for months on state television, have energized thousands of Gbagbo supporters and soldiers, giving them a fervor that they display over and over.

But until now, those statements did not bear any similarity with the reality on the ground.

Mr. Soro dismissed in advance suggestions that the French and United Nations offensive amounted to undue foreign interference. “They have a mandate to protect the civilian population,” he said. “Gbagbo has committed many crimes against the civilian population, so this is absolutely appropriate.”

Die-hard loyalist troops have dug in to protect Mr. Gbagbo, a former university historian who has transformed himself into a hard-line autocrat over the course of a long political career.

On Monday, about 2,000 fighters supporting Mr. Ouattara entered the city in a renewed push to oust him, his spokesmen said.

“This is the final assault,” said the spokesman, Apollinaire Yapi. “I would say this is the general offensive we anticipated. So far, the incursions have been to test Gbagbo’s forces.”

As the fighting intensified during Monday’s assault, residents described an intimidating universe of sustained gunfire and loud booms, and a fourth straight day of being unable to venture out.

Some spoke of running out of food. “We’re lying flat; the gunfire doesn’t stop,” said a resident of the Cocody neighborhood, where Mr. Gbagbo lives, speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals. He was sheltering not only his own five children, but also seven of a relative’s. “It’s very, very tough,” he said.

Mr. Soro said the United Nations and French attacks would curtail the combat: “The election results must be respected. The rule of law must be restored.”

Direckshun
04-05-2011, 09:56 AM
For any idiots in our midst:

http://www.yalibnan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ivory-coast-map.jpg

Rain Man
04-05-2011, 10:20 AM
For any idiots in our midst:



You're incorrect. You're looking at the nation of Cote d'Ivoire.

Warrior5
04-05-2011, 10:26 AM
We should start a pool on which country the UN and France are going to attack next week.

chiefsnorth
04-05-2011, 11:14 AM
They don't have Obama dithering, posturing, and nuancing his way around.

thecoffeeguy
04-05-2011, 12:32 PM
You're incorrect. You're looking at the nation of Cote d'Ivoire.

:thumb:

Chief Faithful
04-05-2011, 12:39 PM
My family just took an Ivorian refugee into our home and the story is very different then what we are reading in the US media. The civil war is mostly over mineral rights.

The French are supporting the candidate that promises France 65% of all mineral rights to the country. The results of the election are in dispute because of interference by France in the election results. Laurent Gbagbo promised the electorate that Ivory Coast would kick out the French and keep 100% of their natural resources. According to my friends in the Ivory Coast the real winner of the election was Laurent Gbagbo and there is only a civil war because of the French interference.

durtyrute
04-05-2011, 09:19 PM
My family just took an Ivorian refugee into our home and the story is very different then what we are reading in the US media. The civil war is mostly over mineral rights.

The French are supporting the candidate that promises France 65% of all mineral rights to the country. The results of the election are in dispute because of interference by France in the election results. Laurent Gbagbo promised the electorate that Ivory Coast would kick out the French and keep 100% of their natural resources. According to my friends in the Ivory Coast the real winner of the election was Laurent Gbagbo and there is only a civil war because of the French interference.

Wait, but the news said....

Rain Man
04-05-2011, 09:24 PM
My family just took an Ivorian refugee into our home and the story is very different then what we are reading in the US media. The civil war is mostly over mineral rights.

The French are supporting the candidate that promises France 65% of all mineral rights to the country. The results of the election are in dispute because of interference by France in the election results. Laurent Gbagbo promised the electorate that Ivory Coast would kick out the French and keep 100% of their natural resources. According to my friends in the Ivory Coast the real winner of the election was Laurent Gbagbo and there is only a civil war because of the French interference.

I'm not sure which is more interesting, the story or the fact that you've got an Ivorian refugee in your home.

Saul Good
04-05-2011, 09:27 PM
I'm not sure which is more interesting, the story or the fact that you've got an Ivorian refugee in your home.

He's actually Nigerian.

Chief Faithful
04-06-2011, 02:06 PM
I'm not sure which is more interesting, the story or the fact that you've got an Ivorian refugee in your home.

My son started dating a girl (Nelly) from the Ivory Coast at Geogia State. When the threat of war came a couple months ago we offered our home for her family. The 15 yr old son (Christian) made it out and is living with us. The mother and oldest son are trapped in country and all bank accounts are frozen so they have no money to escape. If the mother and other son get out they will stay with us until things get resolved. Communication is also restricted so news is sporadic. Last week the consolate officially gave them refugee status so Christian can attend high school and Nelly can get a job without a Green Card.

Last week the French released all inmates from the prisons and the UN gave them weapons. The French were trying to promote anarchy. When it comes to oil the French are very ruthless. Russia and China told the French and UN to stop late last week, which helped for about 24 hours then the French started causing more trouble and the killing restarted. A lot of people are counted as missing.

AndChiefs
04-06-2011, 06:19 PM
My family just took an Ivorian refugee into our home and the story is very different then what we are reading in the US media. The civil war is mostly over mineral rights.

The French are supporting the candidate that promises France 65% of all mineral rights to the country. The results of the election are in dispute because of interference by France in the election results. Laurent Gbagbo promised the electorate that Ivory Coast would kick out the French and keep 100% of their natural resources. According to my friends in the Ivory Coast the real winner of the election was Laurent Gbagbo and there is only a civil war because of the French interference.

The international election commission said that he lost....but you're right...I'm sure your friends had exclusive access to all the cast votes so they know that he won.

I understand you have someone living in your home and that may be their perception of activities. That doesn't mean they're right.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/03/world/africa/03ivory.html

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9e6878ee-ff0b-11df-956b-00144feab49a.html#axzz1In9SEmLU

http://newscastmedia.com/blog/2010/12/03/ivory-coast-election-results-reversed-loser-now-wins/

There's plenty more where that came from. Mr. Gbagbo lost.