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pr_capone
04-10-2011, 12:11 AM
I'm using hotel wifi and for kicks decided to snoop around the network. There are currently 5 computers on this network that are WIDE open. I can snoop through their docs, pics, and pretty much everything else.

How in the hell can people rely so heavily on a machine to keep their private info private and yet not bother to learn how to secure it?

Absolutely shocking.

bowener
04-10-2011, 12:25 AM
Put SFW porn in their photo folders with a kind note explaining why they fail.

BIG_DADDY
04-10-2011, 12:29 AM
Put SFW porn in their photo folders with a kind note explaining why they fail.

LMAO

Otter
04-10-2011, 12:32 AM
I'm using hotel wifi and for kicks decided to snoop around the network. There are currently 5 computers on this network that are WIDE open. I can snoop through their docs, pics, and pretty much everything else.

How in the hell can people rely so heavily on a machine to keep their private info private and yet not bother to learn how to secure it?

Absolutely shocking.

How are you able to access their files? Jump in thru port? Turn into a virtual device?

pr_capone
04-10-2011, 12:37 AM
How are you able to access their files? Jump in thru port? Turn into a virtual device?

Nothing sinister. Just open the network connections and im able to see different computers on the network. No different than looking for another computer on your home network.

veist
04-10-2011, 12:39 AM
I'm guessing they have print and file sharing on and open file shares. There are plenty of programs that will scan an IP range for open SMB shares.

Count Zarth
04-10-2011, 12:39 AM
post dem pics up

invade dat privacy

Otter
04-10-2011, 12:40 AM
Nothing sinister. Just open the network connections and im able to see different computers on the network. No different than looking for another computer on your home network.

Just curious what methods were accessible and how open. That's like leaving the keys in your car.

pr_capone
04-10-2011, 12:43 AM
post dem pics up

invade dat privacy

Yeah... no.

Count Zarth
04-10-2011, 12:45 AM
**** lamer

go back to jehovah then

EDIT: Quit bypassing the word filter... and while you're at it try to be less of an overall douche.

FAX
04-10-2011, 12:47 AM
That's pretty dang interesting and an excellent business opportunity for someone with a working knowledge of personal computer security. Either create a method hotels can use to prevent that problem or, alternatively, make it appear as though one of the other guests hacked your laptop, Mr. pr_capone, and sue the hotel for millions.

FAX

pr_capone
04-10-2011, 12:50 AM
fukin lamer

go back to jehovah then

Not cool.

Count Zarth
04-10-2011, 12:51 AM
cooler than u

POST PICS

pr_capone
04-10-2011, 12:57 AM
cooler than u

POST PICS

No, it is one thing to poke around an open network. To take someone's personal info and air it out is not something I would ever do.

nstygma
04-10-2011, 02:07 AM
you just look through network neighborhood, and open their computer to see if anything is shared?

Jewish Rabbi
04-10-2011, 04:41 AM
you just look through network neighborhood, and open their computer to see if anything is shared?

ROFL Network neighborhood? Are you still on Windows 95? ROFL

Over-Head
04-10-2011, 04:44 AM
fukin lamer

go back to jehovah then This is your brain on drugs :spock:

Garcia Bronco
04-10-2011, 06:54 AM
I'm guessing they have print and file sharing on and open file shares. There are plenty of programs that will scan an IP range for open SMB shares.

This.

And you may think; why would MicroSoft do this? So dipshits can network their machines at home without any education.

Garcia Bronco
04-10-2011, 06:57 AM
That's pretty dang interesting and an excellent business opportunity for someone with a working knowledge of personal computer security. Either create a method hotels can use to prevent that problem or, alternatively, make it appear as though one of the other guests hacked your laptop, Mr. pr_capone, and sue the hotel for millions.

FAX

ahh no. First off, its up to the individual to secure their device. Before you log in you have to agree to their terms of service; meaning some litigus-jackass-momentus has already tried what you are suggesting. :)

Bacon Cheeseburger
04-10-2011, 07:04 AM
This is precisely why I never save anything to my computer, ever. In fact, I never even turn it on, it's just too damn risky.

luv
04-10-2011, 07:31 AM
Weird, when I first glanced t the thread title, I actually read it wrong.

It is amazing how 'little people' know about computer security.

You know you've been on CP too much when you assume a thread is going to be about midgets.

milkman
04-10-2011, 07:53 AM
Guilty.

BigRedChief
04-10-2011, 08:18 AM
If they are so stupid to put a password on their network...they deserve it. But, thats nothing.

Your credit card information from your local retailer is sometimes wide open for the same reason. They run your purchase and send it via WIFI. A guy is sitting out on in the parking lot seeeing who's open and gets the credit card information.

No tech skills needed. A laptop and and a easy google search will tell you how simple it is. For crissakes it was on on 60 mintues. And its still happening,

BigRedChief
04-10-2011, 08:31 AM
That's pretty dang interesting and an excellent business opportunity for someone with a working knowledge of personal computer security. Either create a method hotels can use to prevent that problem or, alternatively, make it appear as though one of the other guests hacked your laptop, Mr. pr_capone, and sue the hotel for millions.

FAXIf you want to purchase or use a companies free bandwidth they are not responsible for security on your pc or laptop. It's settled law.

Bearcat
04-10-2011, 09:25 AM
Like BRC was saying, with as many people who don't secure their WiFi or change the default password on their router, it doesn't surprise me one bit... and I don't know how much information comes with a linksys router these days, but part of that falls on Cisco, Microsoft, etc; because they should educate their customers (then when the customer throws away the instructions with the box, you can blame them ;) ).

Weird, when I first glanced t the thread title, I actually read it wrong.

It is amazing how 'little people' know about computer security.

You know you've been on CP too much when you assume a thread is going to be about midgets.

LMAO

Simplex3
04-10-2011, 09:40 AM
That's pretty dang interesting and an excellent business opportunity for someone with a working knowledge of personal computer security. Either create a method hotels can use to prevent that problem...

It's much simpler than it sounds. All they would have to do is configure the router to drop all non-web traffic. Windows file shares operate on completely different ports.

The problem is that the people setting up the Internet access at hotels are every bit as retarded as the people with wide open shares on their computer.

Marco Polo
04-10-2011, 09:44 AM
Well, how can you secure it then?

Mr. Laz
04-10-2011, 09:46 AM
How are you able to access their files? Jump in thru port? Turn into a virtual device?
if you don't turn have a 3rd party software firewall program and/or have file sharing turned off etc then your computer is a open book

Mr. Laz
04-10-2011, 09:52 AM
Well, how can you secure it then?
imo the easiest way for the average user to secure their computer is a 3rd party firewall and antirvirus programs.

http://www.online-armor.com/
http://www.zonealarm.com/
http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/

http://free.avg.com/us-en/download-avg-anti-virus-free
http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=landing%20page%20free&utm_content=versionfree&utm_campaign=G-%20US%20-%20NAM%20-%20Avast%20-%20PS%20-%20Branded%20-%20Free

all have free versions

Simplex3
04-10-2011, 09:54 AM
imo the easiest way for the average user to secure their computer is a 3rd party firewall program

http://www.online-armor.com/
http://www.zonealarm.com/
http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/

all have free versions

Hell, Windows firewall will even do the trick. At least at that point the attacker has to have some real tools.

Of course the problem with any firewall is that the dumbass is in charge of the configuration. Every time a message pops up "hey, this program is trying to get through the firewall" they'll just click the "allow always" button so they don't have to deal with it ever again.

Mr. Laz
04-10-2011, 09:57 AM
Hell, Windows firewall will even do the trick. At least at that point the attacker has to have some real tools.

Of course the problem with any firewall is that the dumbass is in charge of the configuration. Every time a message pops up "hey, this program is trying to get through the firewall" they'll just click the "allow always" button so they don't have to deal with it ever again.
True, but your overall OS settings can directly effect Windows firewall. A 3rd party app is more likely to require you to change etc settings to open your computer up. Many 3rd party firewalls now have a "learning mode" which will help the inexperience user keep their PC secure.

Simplex3
04-10-2011, 09:59 AM
True, but your overall OS settings can directly effect Windows firewall. A 3rd party app is more likely to require you to change etc settings to open your computer up. Many 3rd party firewalls now have a "learning mode" which will help the inexperience user keep their PC secure.

Good point. I forget that stuff since I never run Windows unless I'm on a client site, and there I figure the security of their machine and network are their problem. I won't do things to try and loosen or circumvent it, but I'm also not in the business of doing extra work.

Mr. Laz
04-10-2011, 10:07 AM
Good point. I forget that stuff since I never run Windows unless I'm on a client site, and there I figure the security of their machine and network are their problem. I won't do things to try and loosen or circumvent it, but I'm also not in the business of doing extra work.
yea ... hell, many programs you install now even ask to change your windows firewall settings. You know most people just start clicking "accept" and don't bother reading what exactly they are accepting.

The Online Armor firewall even comes with a Keylogger monitoring section and a activity status taskbar icon so you can see if a program is using bandwidth and what the IP address it is connecting to.