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BigCatDaddy
06-08-2011, 02:18 PM
Michael Jordan made the NBA a whole lot of money. Stern did well to hang on for the ride.

In before some idiot says Stern fed Jordan titles.

DJ's left nut
06-08-2011, 02:19 PM
Caption this:

http://i56.tinypic.com/9tmur4.jpg

Ha! Anyone with a slight NBA memory doesn't need to caption it, rather they'll contrast it.

Above you have the "Next Jordan"

Below: The real Jordan

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6hvR6fPq-uw/S3nLwCNS4GI/AAAAAAAABnQ/LoHM5G_ApbE/s400/the-shrug.jpg

That's how you shrug. When you've just eviscerated your opponent and all there is left to do is mock them with your awesomeness - that's how you shrug.

Seriously - eat a dick, LeBron James. Fucking tagalong.

Pitt Gorilla
06-08-2011, 02:21 PM
Ha! Anyone with a slight NBA memory doesn't need to caption it, rather they'll contrast it.

Above you have the "Next Jordan"

Below: The real Jordan

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6hvR6fPq-uw/S3nLwCNS4GI/AAAAAAAABnQ/LoHM5G_ApbE/s400/the-shrug.jpg

That's how you shrug. When you've just eviscerated your opponent and all there is left to do is mock them with your awesomeness - that's how you shrug.

Seriously - eat a dick, LeBron James. ****ing tagalong.Wasn't he shrugging to Magic? I can't remember if he was commenting then yet or not, but that's what I have in my memory.

BigCatDaddy
06-08-2011, 02:22 PM
In before some idiot says Stern fed Jordan titles.

I wish I had YouTube here at work. Anybody remember in the playoffs when Reggie ran into Jordan and gave him a 2 handed shove to the ground to get open and hit a game winning shot in the playoffs (Obviously not a flop)? Jordan just got up and walked off the court with no whining to referees or pissed off look on his face. Just a little smile like I owe you one.

That might be one of my favorite Jordan moments oddly enough.

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 02:22 PM
oH MY.


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DJ's left nut
06-08-2011, 02:23 PM
Wasn't he shrugging to Magic? I can't remember if he was commenting then yet or not, but that's what I have in my memory.

Yeah, that's my recollection.

Just Passin' By
06-08-2011, 02:23 PM
Statics never lie - the people that use them do.

6 of one.... note your reliance here on a statistic that's been basically meaningless through 4 games.

If you think its wholly irrelevant that the Heat have shown an ability to put their foot down and blow the Mavs out of the barn whereas the Mavs haven't, more power to ya.

It is wholly irrelevant. It's 2-2, with the series back on serve.

But ultimately that has to be of some concern. When try to walk a tight rope, every additional step is one you'd prefer not take. The Mavs are doing just that with the style of games they're playing and the fact that they couldn't close it out in 5 would be very troubling for me were I a Mavs fan.

Coaches look at everything as being of some concern. If you're the Heat, it would be very troubling for you that you've seemingly blown 2 games. However, styles, as you allude to here, make a big difference. And the fact that the Mavericks couldn't close it out in 5 should have been expected from the beginning, because this wasn't a lopsided matchup like Lakers/Magic.

BigCatDaddy
06-08-2011, 02:24 PM
Wasn't he shrugging to Magic? I can't remember if he was commenting then yet or not, but that's what I have in my memory.

It was Fratello and Marv.

Edit - Magic was a sideline reporter so he could have been in the area.

Pitt Gorilla
06-08-2011, 02:25 PM
It was Fratello and Marv.OH WHAT A MOVE BY STARKS!!!11

vailpass
06-08-2011, 02:26 PM
Michael Jordan made the NBA a whole lot of money. Stern did well to hang on for the ride.

That is understating the situation by a large margin. But you know that.

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 02:30 PM
Below: The real Jordan

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6hvR6fPq-uw/S3nLwCNS4GI/AAAAAAAABnQ/LoHM5G_ApbE/s400/the-shrug.jpg
.

http://i53.tinypic.com/mt2yoy.jpg

Pitt Gorilla
06-08-2011, 02:32 PM
oH MY.


<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0Cbt2UXgB2M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>Good Lord. Marion needs to shut his mouth. I can't imagine running mouth with a J that horrid.

DJ's left nut
06-08-2011, 02:34 PM
http://i53.tinypic.com/mt2yoy.jpg

Better Jordan caption - "Eh - not my problem; I've got 6"

BigCatDaddy
06-08-2011, 02:34 PM
http://i53.tinypic.com/mt2yoy.jpg

Can we somehow include Pippen in that?

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 02:34 PM
His horrid J is falling to the tune of 52 percent this series.

Marion - 15.5 PPG, 6.5 REB
LeFraud - 17.3 PPG, 7.3 REB

Considering Lebron plays 200 minutes a game....that's pathetic.

DJ's left nut
06-08-2011, 02:35 PM
Can we somehow include Pippen in that?

We did; he's the one in the red uniform.

Mr. Arrowhead
06-08-2011, 02:47 PM
Caption this:

http://i56.tinypic.com/9tmur4.jpg
YO Spo, we got a huge problem here, I left my talents in South Beach

Easy 6
06-08-2011, 02:52 PM
Honest question... when are one of Van Gundys partners going to lean over & knock him out cold?

My God, he's an annoying little jackoff, just loves to hear himself yap.

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 03:00 PM
Take 1

http://i54.tinypic.com/a1l8af.jpg

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 03:11 PM
Take 2

http://i52.tinypic.com/hx26ts.jpg

Pitt Gorilla
06-08-2011, 03:28 PM
His horrid J is falling to the tune of 52 percent this series.

Marion - 15.5 PPG, 6.5 REB
LeFraud - 17.3 PPG, 7.3 REB

Considering Lebron plays 200 minutes a game....that's pathetic.Layups/dunks aren't jumpshots.

vailpass
06-08-2011, 03:41 PM
His horrid J is falling to the tune of 52 percent this series.

Marion - 15.5 PPG, 6.5 REB
LeFraud - 17.3 PPG, 7.3 REB

Considering Lebron plays 200 minutes a game....that's pathetic.

You know absolutely nothing about the game. Stats and pictures. You try so hard but it just isn't there.
And the next time anyone plays 200 minutes a game will be the first time.

Rams Fan
06-08-2011, 03:47 PM
Take 2

http://i52.tinypic.com/hx26ts.jpg

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Marion would act like that towards D-Wade even though they were teammates.:rolleyes:

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 04:16 PM
You know absolutely nothing about the game. Stats and pictures. You try so hard but it just isn't there.
And the next time anyone plays 200 minutes a game will be the first time.

No fucking shit, asshole? Have you heard of exaggeration?

Moron.

vailpass
06-08-2011, 04:17 PM
No ****ing shit, asshole? Have you heard of exaggeration?

Moron.

Live by the stat, die by the stat.

KC_Connection
06-08-2011, 04:19 PM
When was the last game Kobe or MJ had when they scored less than 10? Let alone in a playoff game?
The LeBron hate is strong in this thread, especially when the Heat are the ones with two home games left.

If LeBron had taken 20 shots last night instead of 11 and scored an inefficient 20+ PTS (as Kobe does so often), why is that a good thing? Is there something wrong with passing the ball to the players that actually are playing and shooting well?

loochy
06-08-2011, 04:22 PM
The LeBron hate is strong in this thread, especially when the Heat are the ones with two home games left.

If LeBron had taken 20 shots last night instead of 11 and scored an inefficient 20+ PTS (as Kobe does so often), why is that a good thing? Is there something wrong with passing the ball to the players that actually are playing and shooting well?

Duh. It's because we don't like him anyway so we look for something to nail him for.

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 04:25 PM
The LeBron hate is strong in this thread, especially when the Heat are the ones with two home games left.

If LeBron had taken 20 shots last night instead of 11 and scored an inefficient 20+ PTS (as Kobe does so often), why is that a good thing? Is there something wrong with passing the ball to the players that actually are playing and shooting well?

He hung out all night and did jack on offense.

He's awful without the ball in his hands.

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 04:45 PM
LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

http://uploader.ws/upload/201106/19192052.jpg

KC_Connection
06-08-2011, 05:17 PM
He hung out all night and did jack on offense.

He's awful without the ball in his hands.
Even if those claims were true (they aren't at all, really), they are pretty irrelevant.
Being a passive offensive player during a game is better than being a net negative offensive player (which he may have been had he decded to force something that wasn't there and go away from Wade).
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Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 05:20 PM
Even if those claims were true (they aren't at all, really), they are pretty irrelevant.
Being a passive offensive player during a game is better than being a net negative offensive player (which he may have been had he decded to force something that wasn't there and go away from Wade).
Posted via Mobile Device

Please. He played with zero intensity or desire and then he sheepishly said he was "tired" in postgame.

He's a quitter.

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 06:25 PM
Dirk said his fever is gone.

http://www.mavsfastbreak.com/2011/06/08/nba-final-practice-report-060811/

“I was trying to get out of here pretty quick, go home, take a long shower and just go to bed right away and have a good meal,” Nowitzki said when recalling the events of Tuesday night. “Just feel a lot better today. The fever is basically gone. … That’s obviously the main concern. Anything else, the sniffles or the cough, you don’t really care about that. As long as the fever is gone, that’s the main thing that you worry about.

“I didn’t do anything today,” he added. “You know, slept in, basically, and just watched film and walked through some stuff. So, it really hasn’t changed from the other day. I’ll probably come back tonight, get a little sweat for like 30 minutes, at least get the body used to sweating a little bit. And then I’ll be ready tomorrow.”

In other news, Bosh is into ballet.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/multimedia/photo_gallery/1106/finals.game4/images/dirk-nowitzki-3.jpg

Mr. Arrowhead
06-08-2011, 06:32 PM
Please. He played with zero intensity or desire and then he sheepishly said he was "tired" in postgame.

He's a quitter.

and he proved it with Cleveland in the playoffs last year

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 07:53 PM
Donnie Nelson just compared Dirk's performance last night to Willis Reed.

Reed's most famous performance took place on May 8, 1970, during Game 7 of the 1970 NBA Finals against the Los Angeles Lakers in Madison Square Garden. Due to a severe thigh injury, a torn muscle that had previously kept him out of Game 6, he was considered unlikely to play in Game 7. Yet Reed surprised the fans by walking onto the court during warmups, prompting widespread applause.

Starting the game, he scored the Knicks' first two field goals on his first two shot attempts, his only points of the game.[1] Reed's performance inspired the Knicks, as teammate Walt "Clyde" Frazier went on to score 36 points. The Knicks won the game 113–99, giving New York City its first NBA title. The moment Reed walked onto the court was voted the greatest moment in the history of Madison Square Garden

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 08:00 PM
Whitlock compares Carlisle to Bill Belichick. Wow.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/quirky-dallas-coach-rick-carlisle-keeps-mavericks-in-contention-with-game-4-adjustments-060811

If Bill Belichick coached basketball, he would be Rick Carlisle — quirky, aloof, underappreciated and well-traveled.

Belichick and Carlisle are like malt liquor, an acquired taste.

he truth is, Carlisle is probably best suited to be a football coach. The NFL’s military-style leadership model, sleep-in-the-office lifestyle and Xs-and-Os-centric coaching are perfect for Carlisle.

He’s short on people skills and long on X-O. He’s the antithesis of Phil Jackson and Zen.

Lucky for the Dallas Mavericks — they needed an X-and-O fix in the NBA Finals.

With the Mavs trailing 2-1 in their best-of-seven series with the Miami Heat and having been dominated in all three games, Carlisle was forced Tuesday night to empty his coaching playbook. He had no choice. He coached the Mavericks to a series-evening 86-83 victory.

For three games, the Mavs struggled with solving Miami’s defense, slowing Dwyane Wade and finding the right offense-defense balance and rotation.

Things were made worse when Dirk Nowitzki woke up Tuesday morning physically weak with a 101-degree temperature, a sinus infection, a bad cough.

The Mavs were toast. Carlisle was desperate.

He did crazy (stuff). He inserted J.J. Barea into the starting lineup. Barea has been a nightmare in the Finals. He can’t finish at the rim. He can’t knock down open perimeter shots. He left his game in the Western Conference playoffs.

Carlisle went with Barea to change his rotation and rest Shawn Marion. With Barea in the lineup, DeShawn Stevenson would come off the bench and defend Wade or LeBron James.

Carlisle also tied Peja Stojakovic to the bench. Peja left his shot in Los Angeles. The few minutes Carlisle would have wasted on Peja, he gave to Brian Cardinal. Well, at least “The Custodian” didn’t turn the ball over and escort a Heat offensive player to the rim.

The Barea and Cardinal moves didn’t really pan out. That’s fine. Down 2-1 and with Dirk sick, a coach has to try something.

And Carlisle did find minutes for Stevenson. In Dallas’ two victories, Stevenson has played a combined 48 minutes. In Dallas’ two losses, Stevenson has played 29 minutes. Stevenson played 26 minutes Tuesday. He knocked down three 3-pointers. He played solid defense on James and Wade.

Where Carlisle really made his mark Tuesday was in the fourth quarter, when he mixed in some zone defense. The Heat scored only 14 points in the final 12 minutes. The zone slowed Wade’s penetration, and it masked Nowitzki’s exhaustion.

Carlisle coached a masterpiece. He reminded me of one of the reasons I liked Dallas all year and in this Finals series. He’s one of the few coaches — like Jackson, Doc Rivers — who can make a legitimate difference on the final score. Carlisle is worth a few points.

As a lifelong Indiana Pacers fan, I’ve been an admirer of Carlisle for quite some time. I watched him do for Larry Bird what Belichick used to do for Bill Parcells.

Bird had the basketball intellect to “get” Carlisle. In the late 1990s, as an assistant coach for the Pacers, Carlisle coached Bird’s squad all the way to the NBA Finals. When Bird tired of pretending to be a head coach and stepped down, he couldn’t talk Pacers president Donnie Walsh into making Carlisle the next coach.

Walsh chose Isiah Thomas. A year later, the Pistons chose Carlisle. Although Carlisle led the Pistons to back-to-back 50-win seasons and an appearance in the Eastern Conference finals, and won a Coach of the Year award, the Pistons fired him after only two seasons. Based on newspaper reports at the time, most everyone in the Pistons organization hated Carlisle. He was smug and weird.

Detroit replaced Carlisle with Larry Brown.

OK, think about that. The Pacers and the Pistons chose NBA divas — Thomas and Brown — over Carlisle.

Again, Rick Carlisle is an acquired taste.

Larry Bird has it. Shortly after returning to the Pacers as team president, Bird fired Thomas and hired Carlisle.

In his first season, he led the Pacers to 61 victories and the Eastern Conference finals. In his second season, he was the leader of the squad that brawled with the Pistons and their fans inside the Palace. Two years later, with the Pacers struggling on and off the court, Bird had to fire Carlisle in a move driven by public relations.

Bird did Carlisle a favor. Mark Cuban and the Mavericks scooped up Carlisle. This veteran Dallas team is perfect for Carlisle. Nowitzki, Jason Kidd and Jason Terry are three of the smartest players in the league. They get it done with their heads, not great athleticism. They “get” Carlisle. His quirks and his aloofness don’t bother them.

Will Carlisle’s adjustments get Dallas two more victories? Maybe not. But his moves Tuesday night earned Dallas two more opportunities to adjust.

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 08:19 PM
Cavs forums FTW

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq350/itsbouttogetugly/y_050103-N-6020P-206_Two_Naval_Air_crewmen_carry_a_seriously_injured_Indonesian_woman_to_a_waiting_helicopter_for_tra nsportation_to_a_medica.jpg

WhitiE
06-08-2011, 08:24 PM
Cavs forums FTW

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq350/itsbouttogetugly/y_050103-N-6020P-206_Two_Naval_Air_crewmen_carry_a_seriously_injured_Indonesian_woman_to_a_waiting_helicopter_for_tra nsportation_to_a_medica.jpg

lol good shit

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 08:26 PM
Lebron should just come out of his closet.

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-King-
06-08-2011, 08:50 PM
Even if those claims were true (they aren't at all, really), they are pretty irrelevant.
Being a passive offensive player during a game is better than being a net negative offensive player (which he may have been had he decded to force something that wasn't there and go away from Wade).
Posted via Mobile Device

Not really. I'd rather the "best player in the world" play 100 percent and just miss than bitch out and play like shit.

Kobe's 6/24 for 23 points >> LeBrons 3/11 for 8 points.

It's like saying that the guy who doesn't show up for work is better than the guy who does show up but doesn't complete the job right away.

Count Alex's Losses
06-08-2011, 08:53 PM
Oh shit bros, Lebron and Wade had a chat.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AhL_j4DZo4EszHbfTToSrYC8vLYF?slug=ap-nbafinals-heat

DALLAS (AP)—LeBron James(notes) and Dwyane Wade(notes) have rooms across the hall from one another at Miami’s team hotel in Dallas, which was convenient after Game 4 of the NBA finals.

They needed to talk.

And despite all the questions that have arisen after James’ eight-point effort on Tuesday night—the first time in 90 career playoff games where the two-time NBA MVP was held to single digits in scoring—Wade emerged from that late-night strategy session convinced as ever in his superstar Heat teammate.

“Eventually,” Wade said Wednesday, “he’s going to do something amazing, and it’s going to put us over the top.”

Game 5 is James’ next opportunity.

The Heat and Dallas Mavericks are tied at two games apiece in these NBA finals, which resume Thursday night before shifting back to Miami for Game 6 on Sunday and, possibly, a winner-take-all Game 7 on Tuesday night. It’s a best-of-three series now.

“I think it’s that time,” James said. “I think it’s that time that I try to get myself going individually.”

Said Wade: “Sounds good to me.”

What utter clowns. Hey Lebron, what happened to your "attack mode?"

LMAO

Fruit Ninja
06-08-2011, 08:53 PM
lol, one thing about Kobe, is he doesnt give a fuck if he's playing like shit, he will fucking shoot it and do everything in his will. He will go down swinging. He kinda did that once, but i think that was more to prove a point to the FO. It also wasnt in the finals. That game he went 6/23 or whatever, he had a horrible shooting night, but he played a great game defensively and on the boards.

-King-
06-08-2011, 08:59 PM
lol, one thing about Kobe, is he doesnt give a fuck if he's playing like shit, he will fucking shoot it and do everything in his will. He will go down swinging. He kinda did that once, but i think that was more to prove a point to the FO. It also wasnt in the finals. That game he went 6/23 or whatever, he had a horrible shooting night, but he played a great game defensively and on the boards.

Yup. I'll take a guy who'll go down swinging over a quitter any day of the week and twice on game days.

KC_Connection
06-08-2011, 11:26 PM
So it's the whole LeBron is a quitter nonsense again, eh. The hate remains strong in this thread.

DBOSHO
06-08-2011, 11:50 PM
Lfor someone who wants a ring so bad, I figured he'd try to put the team on his back.

DBOSHO
06-08-2011, 11:52 PM
How many posessions will I pass up?

Not one, not two, not three, not four...

SPATCH
06-09-2011, 12:04 AM
So it's the whole LeBron is a quitter nonsense again, eh. The hate remains strong in this thread.

I agree that calling him a quitter is over-the-top... but this kid obviously does not possess the tenacity/ferociousness/killer instinct/unflappable will to win that Michael Jordan had.

Basically, anybody making the audacious claim that he could EVER pass MJ can suck it

-King-
06-09-2011, 02:55 AM
So it's the whole LeBron is a quitter nonsense again, eh. The hate remains strong in this thread.

Explain being the most talented player in the league and scoring 8 points in 48 minutes.

Jim Jones
06-09-2011, 03:18 AM
Oh shit bros, Lebron and Wade had a chat.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AhL_j4DZo4EszHbfTToSrYC8vLYF?slug=ap-nbafinals-heat



What utter clowns. Hey Lebron, what happened to your "attack mode?"

LMAO

"I think it's time"

LMAO

Yes, LeBron. It's game 5 of the NBA Finals. I'm not sure if you thought there was another round after this, but you only have two or three more games left in your season. It would be wise to begin attempting to play well.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 05:59 AM
Oh shit bros, Lebron and Wade had a chat.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AhL_j4DZo4EszHbfTToSrYC8vLYF?slug=ap-nbafinals-heat



What utter clowns. Hey Lebron, what happened to your "attack mode?"

LMAO

You're going to be clowned tonight.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 06:02 AM
So it's the whole LeBron is a quitter nonsense again, eh. The hate remains strong in this thread.

.

Al Bundy
06-09-2011, 06:06 AM
Lebron does need to show up in the 4th quarter tonight, he was non-existent in the last game.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 06:22 AM
Tonight is going to be gooooooooooooood, whether you have a dog in the fight or not.

Thursday night, he laces his signature sneakers, tugs down the jersey he sacrificed to wear, talks to the teammates he helped assemble last summer and then plays the defining game of his career.

No matter what happens.

No matter where this night goes.

When you suddenly look vulnerable, when play small in the biggest moment, when your very DNA is questioned like LeBron James' has been over this radioactive news cycle, you either shape the conversation or become defined by it.

Your move, LeBron.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-hyde-heat-mavs-lebron-james0609-20110608,0,2618903.column

The Bad Guy
06-09-2011, 07:52 AM
LOL the jersey he sacrificed to wear. Yes, LeBron is a modern day Jesus.

The Bad Guy
06-09-2011, 07:53 AM
So it's the whole LeBron is a quitter nonsense again, eh. The hate remains strong in this thread.

Maybe you and Mr. Awesome can find a room.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 08:46 AM
LOL the jersey he sacrificed to wear. Yes, LeBron is a modern day Jesus.

Wade, Bron, Bosh, and Haslem all gave up more $$ than you and I will ever see to play together in Miami. Whether you like the guy or not, or consider it a big or small sacrifice, you can't deny that he did sacrifice guaranteed $$ to play in Miami.

Mr. Arrowhead
06-09-2011, 08:46 AM
So it's the whole LeBron is a quitter nonsense again, eh. The hate remains strong in this thread.

the truth hurts sometimes

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 10:12 AM
Wade, Bron, Bosh, and Haslem all gave up more $$ than you and I will ever see to play together in Miami. Whether you like the guy or not, or consider it a big or small sacrifice, you can't deny that he did sacrifice guaranteed $$ to play in Miami.

When you already have more money than god that's not really a sacrifice. He has made well over $100 million in salary and endorsements since entering the league.

ChiefsCountry
06-09-2011, 10:29 AM
You're going to be clowned tonight.

Heat are going to win tonight.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 10:37 AM
Dirk > Lebron + Wade

Dirk Nowitzki ranked fourth in fourth-quarter scoring in the regular season (7.1 points per game), behind Amar'e Stoudemire, Dwyane Wade and Kevin Durant. But he's No. 1 in the postseason (10.0 per game) and has been off the charts in The Finals.

Nowitzki's 44 fourth-quarter points in this series are more than Wade (30) and LeBron James (nine) have scored combined. Nowitzki is shooting 12-for-24 from the field, 2-for-4 from 3-point range and 18-for-18 from the free throw line in his 48 fourth-quarter minutes. No other player has attempted more than eight fourth-quarter free throws in the series.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 10:39 AM
Hey Miami...we're good enough, we're smart enough and gosh darn it...people like us.

Dallas's Secret Weapon: High Fives

Researchers Say Winning Teams Touch More, so We Studied the Tape; Miami's Chilly Hug Totals

The major plotlines of the NBA Finals to this point have been Dirk Nowitzki's shooting prowess and LeBron James's Game 4 disappearing act.

Nobody, for the time being, is talking about the Dallas Mavericks' total inability to keep their hands off one another.

But if physical contact between teammates has some bearing on the outcome of a basketball game (more on that later), this series—which is deadlocked at 2-2 heading into Thursday's Game 5—may be all but over already.

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-OF916_Touch__NS_20110608215402.jpg

Based on a review of ABC's broadcasts of the first three games of these Finals, The Wall Street Journal logged every moment when two teammates could be seen touching each other on camera, whether it was a high-five, a hug, a chest pat or a butt slap. The results couldn't be more definitive.

The Mavericks, with 250 slaps, hugs, taps or bumps, are almost twice as touchy-feely as the Heat, who had only 134 instances of televised contact. In those three games, the Mavericks were 82% more likely to high five.

The concept of "chemistry" on a sports team has become the stuff of cliché over the years. Nobody seems to have the same definition for what it is, or what produces it. But last fall, three researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, took a serious look at one of the most obvious signs of camaraderie on a team—touching.

The study, which was titled "Tactile Communication, Cooperation and Performance: An Ethological Study of the NBA," was authored by Michael W. Kraus, Cassy Huang and Dacher Keltner. After reviewing broadcasts of games from the 2008-09 season, they concluded that good teams tend to be much more hands-on than bad ones. Teams whose players touched the most often were more cooperative, played better and won more games, they said.

While there's no evidence that an NBA team can touch its way to victory, the two touchiest teams in the study, the Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers, finished the season with two of the NBA's top three records.

"I remember when we started doing the coding, we were watching a Golden State Warriors game," Kraus said. "They were pretty bad that year, and just watching them and their negative body language—I mean, we weren't seeing any touching at all even in the first quarter. We immediately thought, 'This is going to work.'"

No player over the three games collected more high fives than Mavs forward Tyson Chandler (90). He was followed closely by teammates Nowitzki (88), Shawn Marion (69) and Jason Kidd (69). "It's all about positive reinforcement," Mavs reserve Brian Cardinal said. "And we've got a bunch of guys who really get along."

James led the Heat with a mere 41 high fives. But the touchiest Miami player might be veteran forward Juwan Howard, who averaged 38 high fives per 48 minutes, good for the highest rate on the Heat.

The Bad Guy
06-09-2011, 10:44 AM
Wade, Bron, Bosh, and Haslem all gave up more $$ than you and I will ever see to play together in Miami. Whether you like the guy or not, or consider it a big or small sacrifice, you can't deny that he did sacrifice guaranteed $$ to play in Miami.

Well damn, what are his great grandkids's great grandkids going to do that LeBron took one less year and about 2 million a year to play in Miami?

I hope they'll recover.

The Bad Guy
06-09-2011, 10:44 AM
When you already have more money than god that's not really a sacrifice. He has made well over $100 million in salary and endorsements since entering the league.

Exactly. Using the word sacrifice to describe a multi-millionaire is ignorant as hell.

MIAdragon
06-09-2011, 10:49 AM
Wade, Bron, Bosh, and Haslem all gave up more $$ than you and I will ever see to play together in Miami. Whether you like the guy or not, or consider it a big or small sacrifice, you can't deny that he did sacrifice guaranteed $$ to play in Miami.

LMAO

Dicky McElephant
06-09-2011, 10:56 AM
Wade, Bron, Bosh, and Haslem all gave up more $$ than you and I will ever see to play together in Miami. Whether you like the guy or not, or consider it a big or small sacrifice, you can't deny that he did sacrifice guaranteed $$ to play in Miami.

Yeah.....but they're also moving to a state that doesn't collect state taxes. So it's not like they're taking a HUGE paycut.

SPATCH
06-09-2011, 10:56 AM
Wade, Bron, Bosh, and Haslem all gave up more $$ than you and I will ever see to play together in Miami. Whether you like the guy or not, or consider it a big or small sacrifice, you can't deny that he did sacrifice guaranteed $$ to play in Miami.

No shit asswipe.. that's why nobody likes this fucking team. It was all a FUCKING SCHEME that they are together in the first place. A FUCKING SCHEME.

SACRIFICE???? GTFO

loochy
06-09-2011, 10:57 AM
Wade, Bron, Bosh, and Haslem all gave up more $$ than you and I will ever see to play together in Miami. Whether you like the guy or not, or consider it a big or small sacrifice, you can't deny that he did sacrifice guaranteed $$ to play in Miami.

Wow, these men are so noble and so brave. Perhaps we should carve their faces on the side of a mountain in South Dakota.

SPATCH
06-09-2011, 11:00 AM
omg I hate this team sooo fucking much

it was all a seedy-ass scheme. fucking snakes.

vailpass
06-09-2011, 11:14 AM
Wade, Bron, Bosh, and Haslem all gave up more $$ than you and I will ever see to play together in Miami. Whether you like the guy or not, or consider it a big or small sacrifice, you can't deny that he did sacrifice guaranteed $$ to play in Miami.

Take that stupid shit to the Herald because it won't play here.

LeBron didn't sacrifice to go to Miami, he hauled out of Cleveland with his tail between his legs so D-Wade could take him to a championship. It is one of the reasons the country hates him and the Heat.
That's his right but lets at least be honest about it.

DJ's left nut
06-09-2011, 11:46 AM
Simmons, as is generally the case with basketball, gets it right again:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6640925/time-lebrondown-part-ii

The money shot

Of course, the Celtics were always Russell's team. They belonged to him. Everyone knew this, just like the Spurs belonged to Duncan, the Rockets belonged to Hakeem, the Bulls belonged to Jordan, and the Mavericks now belong to Nowitzki. If you watched Games 3 and 4 in person, you knew Miami belonged to Dwyane Wade. That was the hardest thing to shake. We made so much fuss about LeBron these past two years and he's not even the most important dude on his own team.

LeBron is a joke. He's the most talented player on the court every single night and he has absolutely no heart. He's a frontrunner, a floater and a fraud. Simmons points out (as I have numerous times) that James STILL doesn't have a post-up game. You damn Heat fans continue to refuse to even attempt to explain why that's acceptable in favor of just slobbing his knob.

He's a generational talent...that's wasted a ton of it.

I still think the Heat win this thing, maybe even in 6. But if they do, it'll just confirm Wade's greatness, IMO. Wade's a baller and a leader. LeBron James is just another follower.

vailpass
06-09-2011, 11:49 AM
Simmons, as is generally the case with basketball, gets it right again:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6640925/time-lebrondown-part-ii

The money shot



LeBron is a joke. He's the most talented player on the court every single night and he has absolutely no heart. He's a frontrunner, a floater and a fraud. Simmons points out (as I have numerous times) that James STILL doesn't have a post-up game. You damn Heat fans continue to refuse to even attempt to explain why that's acceptable in favor of just slobbing his knob.

He's a generational talent...that's wasted a ton of it.

I still think the Heat win this thing, maybe even in 6. But if they do, it'll just confirm Wade's greatness, IMO. Wade's a baller and a leader. LeBron James is just another follower.

Yep. LeBron/Bosh=Shaq/Zo. Two great supporting players under D-Wade.

-King-
06-09-2011, 11:56 AM
Where's Waldo?

http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Lebron-Waldo.jpg

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 12:05 PM
Simmons, as is generally the case with basketball, gets it right again:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6640925/time-lebrondown-part-ii

The money shot



LeBron is a joke. He's the most talented player on the court every single night and he has absolutely no heart. He's a frontrunner, a floater and a fraud. Simmons points out (as I have numerous times) that James STILL doesn't have a post-up game. You damn Heat fans continue to refuse to even attempt to explain why that's acceptable in favor of just slobbing his knob.

He's a generational talent...that's wasted a ton of it.

I still think the Heat win this thing, maybe even in 6. But if they do, it'll just confirm Wade's greatness, IMO. Wade's a baller and a leader. LeBron James is just another follower.

While I agree with this right now let's wait till the series is over so we can see what Lebron does. For all we know he could put the Mavs away with a 50 pt performance and complete domination.

The Bad Guy
06-09-2011, 12:10 PM
Simmons, as is generally the case with basketball, gets it right again:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6640925/time-lebrondown-part-ii

The money shot



LeBron is a joke. He's the most talented player on the court every single night and he has absolutely no heart. He's a frontrunner, a floater and a fraud. Simmons points out (as I have numerous times) that James STILL doesn't have a post-up game. You damn Heat fans continue to refuse to even attempt to explain why that's acceptable in favor of just slobbing his knob.

He's a generational talent...that's wasted a ton of it.

I still think the Heat win this thing, maybe even in 6. But if they do, it'll just confirm Wade's greatness, IMO. Wade's a baller and a leader. LeBron James is just another follower.

Said the same thing weeks ago and I was laughed at in the Jordan thread because I said how could LeBron be better than Jordan because he's not even the best on his own team.

DJ's left nut
06-09-2011, 12:11 PM
While I agree with this right now let's wait till the series is over so we can see what Lebron does. For all we know he could put the Mavs away with a 50 pt performance and complete domination.

Because he got publicly shamed.

At that point, it won't be because he's a competitor, but because he's concerned about his public image.

I said it last season, I'll say it again - LeBron James is more concerned with his image as someone that hasn't won a championship, than he is with actually winning a championship.

It shouldn't take a public flogging to finally get him to play. 8 years into his career, he is what he is.

DJ's left nut
06-09-2011, 12:12 PM
Said the same thing weeks ago and I was laughed at in the Jordan thread because I said how could LeBron be better than Jordan because he's not even the best on his own team.

I've been saying the same thing for 2 years and generally get laughed at for it.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 12:12 PM
Joey Crawford tonight. 20 FTs for Dirk. ;)

BigCatDaddy
06-09-2011, 12:12 PM
Said the same thing weeks ago and I was laughed at in the Jordan thread because I said how could LeBron be better than Jordan because he's not even the best on his own team.

Anyone comparing James to Jordan is a moran. However, in the Celtics series Wade pretty much stunk it up and James had to carry him. This series is just the other way around so I'm still sticking by opinion that those 2 guys are pretty much even.

DJ's left nut
06-09-2011, 12:15 PM
Joey Crawford tonight. 20 FTs for Dirk. ;)

Shit...Joey Crawford's involved?

Sorry, Mavs fans, but Wade's going for 50 on 35 FT attempts. If Bennett Salvatore is on the floor, the entire Dallas squad may end up fouling out (and Wade will almost assuredly surpass Wilt's 100 pt mark...)

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 12:18 PM
Joey Crawford, not Danny Crawford.

Joey always calls a fair game.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 12:20 PM
Last game Joey Crawford reffed the Mavs won. 24 FTs for the Heat, 21 for Dallas.

vailpass
06-09-2011, 12:20 PM
While I agree with this right now let's wait till the series is over so we can see what Lebron does. For all we know he could put the Mavs away with a 50 pt performance and complete domination.

Wouldn't matter.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 12:21 PM
When you already have more money than god that's not really a sacrifice. He has made well over $100 million in salary and endorsements since entering the league.

Well damn, what are his great grandkids's great grandkids going to do that LeBron took one less year and about 2 million a year to play in Miami?

I hope they'll recover.

Exactly. Using the word sacrifice to describe a multi-millionaire is ignorant as hell.

LMAO

Yeah.....but they're also moving to a state that doesn't collect state taxes. So it's not like they're taking a HUGE paycut.

No shit asswipe.. that's why nobody likes this fucking team. It was all a FUCKING SCHEME that they are together in the first place. A FUCKING SCHEME.

SACRIFICE???? GTFO

Wow, these men are so noble and so brave. Perhaps we should carve their faces on the side of a mountain in South Dakota.

Take that stupid shit to the Herald because it won't play here.

LeBron didn't sacrifice to go to Miami, he hauled out of Cleveland with his tail between his legs so D-Wade could take him to a championship. It is one of the reasons the country hates him and the Heat.
That's his right but lets at least be honest about it.

sac·ri·fice
[sak-ruh-fahys]
noun, verb, -ficed, -fic·ing.

the surrender or destruction of something prized or desirable for the sake of something considered as having a higher or more pressing claim.

The magnitude of the sacrifice doesn't matter. I'm not interested in arguing about that so I don't care whether you consider the sacrifice significant or minute. The FACT is he took less money to play in Miami and he took less than the maximum in Miami so that the Heat could sign Haslem. That, by definition, is sacrifice.

Anyone disagreeing is being stubborn and/or ignorant. Your choice.

vailpass
06-09-2011, 12:23 PM
The magnitude of the sacrifice doesn't matter. I'm not interested in arguing about that so I don't care whether you consider the sacrifice significant or minute. The FACT is he took less money to play in Miami and he took less than the maximum in Miami so that the Heat could sign Haslem. That, by definition, is sacrifice.

Anyone disagreeing is being stubborn and/or ignorant. Your choice.

Sacrifice? Or being willing to do anything not to have to be the alpha-dog?
What you see as strength most of the country sees as weakness.

The Bad Guy
06-09-2011, 12:25 PM
The magnitude of the sacrifice doesn't matter. I'm not interested in arguing about that so I don't care whether you consider the sacrifice significant or minute. The FACT is he took less money to play in Miami and he took less than the maximum in Miami so that the Heat could sign Haslem. That, by definition, is sacrifice.

Anyone disagreeing is being stubborn and/or ignorant. Your choice.

Have you factored in state income taxes or are you going to continue to just be a fanboy?

The fewer years thing are a joke.

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 12:31 PM
Because he got publicly shamed.

At that point, it won't be because he's a competitor, but because he's concerned about his public image.

I said it last season, I'll say it again - LeBron James is more concerned with his image as someone that hasn't won a championship, than he is with actually winning a championship.

It shouldn't take a public flogging to finally get him to play. 8 years into his career, he is what he is.

Wouldn't matter.

I don't know. If Lebron comes out the next 2 games, puts the team on his back and wins the championship you aren't going to think differently of him?

Dicky McElephant
06-09-2011, 12:33 PM
Have you factored in state income taxes or are you going to continue to just be a fanboy?

The fewer years thing are a joke.

This. Saying he took less money is bullshit.

DJ's left nut
06-09-2011, 12:35 PM
I don't know. If Lebron comes out the next 2 games, puts the team on his back and wins the championship you aren't going to think differently of him?

If anything, it would cement the opinion I've had of him all along.

Why does the most talented player in the last decade of NBA ball need to be publicly humiliated before he decides to show?

If anything, it's complete validation of my underlying point - LeBron James should be the most unstoppable force in basketball every night he steps on the floor. Unfortunately, he doesn't want to be.

So now that he's getting mocked, he'll actually play to his talent. He'll show what he's capable of doing when he can be bothered to give a shit.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 12:38 PM
Lebron will score 25 tonight on 10-29 shooting.

Just Passin' By
06-09-2011, 12:49 PM
So it's the whole LeBron is a quitter nonsense again, eh. The hate remains strong in this thread.

Well, he certainly quit last year, so I'm not sure what your point is. Calling James a quitter is certainly not nonsense, though.

vailpass
06-09-2011, 01:04 PM
I don't know. If Lebron comes out the next 2 games, puts the team on his back and wins the championship you aren't going to think differently of him?

Not for me, not even a little bit. Inconsistent play=lack of heart and that's all I need to know.

vailpass
06-09-2011, 01:09 PM
If anything, it would cement the opinion I've had of him all along.

Why does the most talented player in the last decade of NBA ball need to be publicly humiliated before he decides to show?

If anything, it's complete validation of my underlying point - LeBron James should be the most unstoppable force in basketball every night he steps on the floor. Unfortunately, he doesn't want to be.

So now that he's getting mocked, he'll actually play to his talent. He'll show what he's capable of doing when he can be bothered to give a shit.

I saw a chicago Bulls IMAX film at the Museum of Air and Space in DC about ten years ago. They followed the Bulls for one of their championship seasons. They asked MJ how he could consistently deliver dominant performances, night in and night out, even in games that didn't matter.

Mike said "Every game I play there is at least one fan who came to see me play and has never seen me play before. On nights when a game isn't crucial I think of that fan, waiting for me to be excellent, and that's all the motivation I need."

I've never forgotten that. Therein lies the heart of a champion, who creates ways to motivate himself to consistent excellence. Something leBron never had and never will.

Dicky McElephant
06-09-2011, 01:09 PM
I saw a chicago Bulls IMAX film at the Museum of Air and Space in DC about ten years ago. They followed the Bulls for one of their championship seasons. They asked MJ how he could consistently deliver dominant performances, night in and night out, even in games that didn't matter.

Mike said "Every game I play there is at least one fan who came to see me play and has never seen me play before. On nights when a game isn't crucial I think of that fan, waiting for me to be excellent, and that's all the motivation I need."

I've never forgotten that. Therein lies the heart of a champion, who creates ways to motivate himself to consistent excellence. Something leBron never had and never will.

And that's why he will always be the greatest.

loochy
06-09-2011, 01:16 PM
This has been a great series...but there is only one thing that would make it greater: THIS INTRO MUSIC

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UooitEU6AtE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SNR
06-09-2011, 01:17 PM
And that's why he will always be the greatest.Eh, I get the Jordan > Lebron thing. But there are people who refuse to accept the fact that some player might come along some day who will be better than Jordan. And that's just stupid.

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 01:19 PM
If anything, it would cement the opinion I've had of him all along.

Why does the most talented player in the last decade of NBA ball need to be publicly humiliated before he decides to show?

If anything, it's complete validation of my underlying point - LeBron James should be the most unstoppable force in basketball every night he steps on the floor. Unfortunately, he doesn't want to be.

So now that he's getting mocked, he'll actually play to his talent. He'll show what he's capable of doing when he can be bothered to give a shit.

I think those are fair questions but at the same time Lebron isn't having a great series but Wade didn't have one against Chicago while Lebron did. Shit happens but we still have 2-3 games to go and let's see which Lebron decides to show up.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 01:19 PM
Have you factored in state income taxes or are you going to continue to just be a fanboy?

The fewer years thing are a joke.

This. Saying he took less money is bullshit.

The state income tax argument is only relevant in terms of Cleveland $$ vs Miami $$. He took less than the maximum contract in Miami so that they could resign Haslem. Therefore, by definition, he sacrificed.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 01:20 PM
I think those are fair questions but at the same time Lebron isn't having a great series but Wade didn't have one against Chicago while Lebron did. Hence the reason why they teamed up so if one is off that night the other could carry the load.

Bron carried the team against Chicago. Wade is carrying them against Dallas.

DJ's left nut
06-09-2011, 01:32 PM
I think those are fair questions but at the same time Lebron isn't having a great series but Wade didn't have one against Chicago while Lebron did. Shit happens but we still have 2-3 games to go and let's see which Lebron decides to show up.

Dwayne Wade doesn't have a track record of floating through games. Dwayne Wade isn't the most insanely dominant physical specimen on the floor every night.

Wade has legitimate hurdles to greatness (he's smaller than most, he's lighter than most). James really doesn't. He's the biggest, fastest, strongest guy on the court almost every time he takes it. At the very least, he has the best combination of those assets.

When he doesn't perform, it's due to lack of effort - that's it. There's no legitimate reason for it. Even if his shot isn't falling, he can drive the lane to get fouls called. Or if he'd work on his !@#$ing game in the offseason, he could back guys down and get easy chip ins (that's an effort issue in its own right). He can do these things when he's 'off' that nobody else can do.

Instead he checks out. Instead he bitches out.

Instead he takes his talents to South Beach.

He's a fraud.

Bowser
06-09-2011, 01:33 PM
What's the over/under on Heat free throws tonight?

Dicky McElephant
06-09-2011, 01:34 PM
The state income tax argument is only relevant in terms of Cleveland $$ vs Miami $$. He took less than the maximum contract in Miami so that they could resign Haslem. Therefore, by definition, he sacrificed.

:rolleyes:

JASONSAUTO
06-09-2011, 01:42 PM
:rolleyes:

why rolling your eyes? its the truth.


all other factors aside he could have made more money.

loochy
06-09-2011, 01:44 PM
why rolling your eyes? its the truth.


all other factors aside he could have made more money.

:rolleyes:

JASONSAUTO
06-09-2011, 01:45 PM
:rolleyes:

another?

why?

could he have made more money or not?


if the answer is yes he sacrificed something.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 01:50 PM
This has been a great series...but there is only one thing that would make it greater: THIS INTRO MUSIC

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UooitEU6AtE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

After Dirk wins it all, I'm using this awesome music in a video.

The Bad Guy
06-09-2011, 01:50 PM
The state income tax argument is only relevant in terms of Cleveland $$ vs Miami $$. He took less than the maximum contract in Miami so that they could resign Haslem. Therefore, by definition, he sacrificed.

This Easter, I'm celebrating LeBron.

Crush
06-09-2011, 01:52 PM
Apparently, LeBron took less money for our sins.

Saul Good
06-09-2011, 01:53 PM
I think those are fair questions but at the same time Lebron isn't having a great series but Wade didn't have one against Chicago while Lebron did. Shit happens but we still have 2-3 games to go and let's see which Lebron decides to show up.

Did anyone ever wonder "which Jordan is going to show up in the Finals tonight"?

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 02:00 PM
Game 4 Dwayne Wade Mockumentary. TAKE DAT WIT CHEW!

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/m4cbGLhmuyY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

vailpass
06-09-2011, 02:07 PM
This Easter, I'm celebrating LeBron.

Apparently, LeBron took less money for our sins.

LMAO

DBOSHO
06-09-2011, 02:07 PM
Over/under lebrons free throw attempts?

I got at least 20

DJ's left nut
06-09-2011, 02:14 PM
Over/under lebrons free throw attempts?

I got at least 20

Game 6 in Miami will be painful

DBOSHO
06-09-2011, 02:15 PM
Dwayne Wade doesn't have a track record of floating through games. Dwayne Wade isn't the most insanely dominant physical specimen on the floor every night.

Wade has legitimate hurdles to greatness (he's smaller than most, he's lighter than most). James really doesn't. He's the biggest, fastest, strongest guy on the court almost every time he takes it. At the very least, he has the best combination of those assets.

When he doesn't perform, it's due to lack of effort - that's it. There's no legitimate reason for it. Even if his shot isn't falling, he can drive the lane to get fouls called. Or if he'd work on his !@#$ing game in the offseason, he could back guys down and get easy chip ins (that's an effort issue in its own right). He can do these things when he's 'off' that nobody else can do.

Instead he checks out. Instead he bitches out.

Instead he takes his talents to South Beach.

He's a fraud.

LeFraud!

QuikSsurfer
06-09-2011, 02:22 PM
This Easter, I'm celebrating LeBron.

ROFL

Just Passin' By
06-09-2011, 02:22 PM
The state income tax argument is only relevant in terms of Cleveland $$ vs Miami $$. He took less than the maximum contract in Miami so that they could resign Haslem. Therefore, by definition, he sacrificed.

James was a sign and trade who'll be avoiding income tax and getting more endorsements. He didn't sacrifice a penny.

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 02:30 PM
Did anyone ever wonder "which Jordan is going to show up in the Finals tonight"?

Not that I recall but I am not one of those people that compared Lebron to MJ. To me there is no comparison.

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 02:33 PM
Dwayne Wade doesn't have a track record of floating through games. Dwayne Wade isn't the most insanely dominant physical specimen on the floor every night.

Wade has legitimate hurdles to greatness (he's smaller than most, he's lighter than most). James really doesn't. He's the biggest, fastest, strongest guy on the court almost every time he takes it. At the very least, he has the best combination of those assets.

When he doesn't perform, it's due to lack of effort - that's it. There's no legitimate reason for it. Even if his shot isn't falling, he can drive the lane to get fouls called. Or if he'd work on his !@#$ing game in the offseason, he could back guys down and get easy chip ins (that's an effort issue in its own right). He can do these things when he's 'off' that nobody else can do.

Instead he checks out. Instead he bitches out.

Instead he takes his talents to South Beach.

He's a fraud.

Fair enough and I am not really disagreeing with you as it stands now. Up to this series Lebron had earned some of his respect back in my eyes because he had been playing like a man on a mission. Especially the way he thoroughly dominated my favorite team.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 02:34 PM
"After this year of scolding and moral posturing, we have arrived at a final scene: Dirk Nowitzki — a simple man from vague origins — walks alone into battle against three mercenaries whose heedless and reckless pursuit of personal gain has unhinged the American Way. Everyone our hero has trusted and loved has either betrayed him (Jason Terry) or has died (Jason Kidd, Peja Stojakovic). And although the journey has long since lost its direction, the people's hero pushes on, not because there is value in pushing on for pushing on's sake, but because the audience demands its fill of blood and vengeance."

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6642375/dirk-vs-heat

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 03:02 PM
James was a sign and trade who'll be avoiding income tax and getting more endorsements. He didn't sacrifice a penny.

You're wrong.

He could have signed a bigger contract IN MIAMI. He didn't. Therefore, he sacrificed. Whether you believe it's a large or small sacrifice is inconsequential. It's still a sacrifice.

JASONSAUTO
06-09-2011, 03:03 PM
James was a sign and trade who'll be avoiding income tax and getting more endorsements. He didn't sacrifice a penny.

lol

but he COULD have made more money from the heat.

vailpass
06-09-2011, 03:06 PM
You're wrong.

He could have signed a bigger contract IN MIAMI. He didn't. Therefore, he sacrificed. Whether you believe it's a large or small sacrifice is inconsequential. It's still a sacrifice.

Which makes absolutely ZERO difference as to whether leBron is a douche bag. He didn't sacrifice, he surrenedered. He didn't come to lead Miami to a ring, he came to let Wade lead him to a ring.
You aren't going to convince anyone to like LeBron, and if you weren't a Heat fan you wouldn't like him either because he is NOT awesome.

JASONSAUTO
06-09-2011, 03:11 PM
Which makes absolutely ZERO difference as to whether leBron is a douche bag. He didn't sacrifice, he surrenedered. He didn't come to lead Miami to a ring, he came to let Wade lead him to a ring.
You aren't going to convince anyone to like LeBron, and if you weren't a Heat fan you wouldn't like him either because he is NOT awesome.

lol

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 03:15 PM
You're wrong.

He could have signed a bigger contract IN MIAMI. He didn't. Therefore, he sacrificed. Whether you believe it's a large or small sacrifice is inconsequential. It's still a sacrifice.

I don't know about that...

Miami could only sign him or Bosh to a five-year, $96 million contract.

The sign and trade contract for Lebron was 6 years, $110 million

Just Passin' By
06-09-2011, 03:21 PM
You're wrong.

He could have signed a bigger contract IN MIAMI. He didn't. Therefore, he sacrificed. Whether you believe it's a large or small sacrifice is inconsequential. It's still a sacrifice.

You're essentially trying to argue that taking $95 dollars instead of $100, after saying you'll accept $80, is a sacrifice.

He was going to sign for less from the beginning, so he proclaimed. Instead, he got the sign and trade, which allowed him more money. Taking a smidge off of that after getting the bump is not a sacrifice in any real sense of the word. It's the fat guy agreeing to only eat 6 hamburgers instead of 7 after initially promising only to eat 4.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 03:26 PM
I don't know about that...

Miami could only sign him or Bosh to a five-year, $96 million contract.

The sign and trade contract for Lebron was 6 years, $110 million

The sign and trade could have been more. It wasn't a maximum contract.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 03:28 PM
Which makes absolutely ZERO difference as to whether leBron is a douche bag. He didn't sacrifice, he surrenedered. He didn't come to lead Miami to a ring, he came to let Wade lead him to a ring.
You aren't going to convince anyone to like LeBron, and if you weren't a Heat fan you wouldn't like him either because he is NOT awesome.

I'm not trying to convince anyone to like Lebron. I could give a crap whether anyone likes him or not. I'm not even trying to convince anyone that he made a significant sacrifice. I'm just saying whether you think it was big or minuscule, it was still a sacrifice. He took less money than he could have.

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 03:28 PM
Maybe you and Mr. Awesome can find a room.
Except I'm cheering for Dirk and the Mavs. The amount of ridiculous hatred for LeBron James is a bit much, though. Basically, right now people are hating on him not because he's played poorly (he's played well on both ends), but because he's not performing like Michael Jordan in the NBA Finals...a pretty tough guy to measure up to.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 03:32 PM
People are hating him because he's a giant flopping bitch who thinks he's entitled to a title and now that he's failing miserably people are enjoying it. Immensely.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 03:37 PM
Lebron's teams lose the next game after he disappears.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/317866704.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1307652297&Signature=0PWfZCisRoxR4TPAf2TasSzsszI%3D

Bowser
06-09-2011, 03:40 PM
For the record, I fully expect a Heat win. Probably by 10 points or so. Don't necessarily like saying that, just the way I feel.

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 03:41 PM
The sign and trade could have been more. It wasn't a maximum contract.

Then to say he sacrificed is silly since he would have "sacrificed" for any team that he might have picked except for the Cavs.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 03:49 PM
Then to say he sacrificed is silly since he would have "sacrificed" for any team that he might have picked except for the Cavs.

Not true. He was expected to sign for the max. sign and trade. It was after DWade called he and Bosh that they all agreed to take less than the max. so that they could resign Haslem (who also took less $$ than he was offered by Dallas).

Dwyane Wade, LeBron James and Chris Bosh each gave up a portion of money from their contracts to keep Haslem in Miami.
“If those guys don’t make that sacrifice, then I’m probably playing for Dallas right now,” Haslem said.


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/07/2254395/udonis-haslem-happy-he-chose-heat.html#ixzz1OoWvldLx

LeBron James (FSY), Dwyane Wade (FSY) and Chris Bosh (FSY) all took less money in their Heat deals last week to allow Miami the flexibility to sign certain players, and Haslem — Wade's teammate for all seven of their pro seasons — was at the top of their collective wish list.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/heat/2010-07-12-udonis-haslem-contract_N.htm

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 03:59 PM
Has everyone already forgotten LeBron's complete domination of Boston and Chicago a few weeks ago? Or have we chosen to just ignore those series in favor of the odd narrative that Wade is somehow a superior player and leader?

Los Pollos Hermanos
06-09-2011, 04:02 PM
LeBron knows that winning championships will earn him more money in endorsements in the long run then not winning. He took the easy route to winning them.

Los Pollos Hermanos
06-09-2011, 04:03 PM
Has everyone already forgotten LeBron's complete domination of Boston and Chicago a few weeks ago? Or have we chosen to just ignore those series in favor of the odd narrative that Wade is somehow a superior player and leader?

Wade is a superior leader. I didn't know that was even in question.

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 04:05 PM
Wade is a superior leader. I didn't know that was even in question.
You'll have to remind me when Wade won 60+ games by himself with a band of misfits headed by Mo Williams.

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 04:11 PM
Not true. He was expected to sign for the max. sign and trade. It was after DWade called he and Bosh that they all agreed to take less than the max. so that they could resign Haslem (who also took less $$ than he was offered by Dallas).

Originally the Cavs weren't going to do the sign and trade so Lebron was going to sign for 5 years \$96 million. That is the max he could have signed with any team except for the Cavs. He even said that in an interview.

As the Heat's own free agent, Wade is eligible for a six-year, $125 million contract. As free agents signing from outside teams, James and Bosh would be eligible for five-year, $96 million contracts. However talks were ongoing Thursday with the Toronto Raptors to try to place Bosh in a sign-and-trade deal, therefore allowing the power forward to also qualify for the $125 million over six years.

James said he took the shorter, five-year deal.

"I'm not getting a max deal," he said. "I'm taking one less year and I'm getting a lot less being in Miami."

vailpass
06-09-2011, 04:13 PM
I'm not trying to convince anyone to like Lebron. I could give a crap whether anyone likes him or not. I'm not even trying to convince anyone that he made a significant sacrifice. I'm just saying whether you think it was big or minuscule, it was still a sacrifice. He took less money than he could have.

Fair enough.

Los Pollos Hermanos
06-09-2011, 04:15 PM
You'll have to remind me when Wade won 60+ games by himself with a band of misfits headed by Mo Williams.

In '06 he won an NBA championship with an over-the-hill Shaq and an 83 year old Gary Payton.

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 04:15 PM
Has everyone already forgotten LeBron's complete domination of Boston and Chicago a few weeks ago? Or have we chosen to just ignore those series in favor of the odd narrative that Wade is somehow a superior player and leader?

I hadn't. I mentioned that earlier.

But there is no doubt at least in my mind this is Wade's team.

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 04:17 PM
In '06 he won an NBA championship with an over-the-hill Shaq and an 83 year old Gary Payton.

Shaq was over-the-hill in 2011, not 2006.
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vailpass
06-09-2011, 04:23 PM
Has everyone already forgotten LeBron's complete domination of Boston and Chicago a few weeks ago? Or have we chosen to just ignore those series in favor of the odd narrative that Wade is somehow a superior player and leader?

Was that you who responded to the MJ stats I posted by saying that LeBron's were about the same?

okcchief
06-09-2011, 04:24 PM
Wade, Bron, Bosh, and Haslem all gave up more $$ than you and I will ever see to play together in Miami. Whether you like the guy or not, or consider it a big or small sacrifice, you can't deny that he did sacrifice guaranteed $$ to play in Miami.

I'm sorry but that's a bunch of shit. It is true with Haslem but the rest didn't give up much. If it was ALL about winning like they say they would have taken the minimums and built and unbeatable team. They gave up a few million which is a lot to you and shit to them. With the marketing deals Lebron and Wade have they don't need a NBA salary. It's not ALL about winning with them.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 04:26 PM
Has everyone already forgotten LeBron's complete domination of Boston and Chicago a few weeks ago? Or have we chosen to just ignore those series in favor of the odd narrative that Wade is somehow a superior player and leader?

As a Cavs fan told me the other day, Lebron doesn't have a problem dominating inferior opponents. That's when he's at his best.

When faced with a challenge, he is a coward.

FD
06-09-2011, 04:27 PM
I hadn't. I mentioned that earlier.

But there is no doubt at least in my mind this is Wade's team.

"He makes the decisions for our team. Whether he wants to shoot or whether he wants to pass. … He's a great player. He's 6-8, he can see over the defense and he's a great passer. … Normally I was the guy here in Miami. At the end of games I always had the ball in my hand. So it took me time to get comfortable with that and get comfortable with saying, 'All right, LeBron, you take it.' … Yesterday, Coach called a play in the huddle for LeBron. He wound up saying, 'No, I want D-Wade to have it right here.'" -Dwyane Wade, after game 4

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 04:28 PM
Was that you who responded to the MJ stats I posted by saying that LeBron's were about the same?
Sounds like something I'd do. You know who also didn't win a title for the first 6 years of his career?
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Pasta Giant Meatball
06-09-2011, 04:29 PM
In '06 he won an NBA championship with an over-the-hill Shaq and an 83 year old Gary Payton.

That's a bit revisionist. Shaq had a pretty good season that year.

loochy
06-09-2011, 04:29 PM
"He makes the decisions for our team. Whether he wants to shoot or whether he wants to pass. … He's a great player. He's 6-8, he can see over the defense and he's a great passer. … Normally I was the guy here in Miami. At the end of games I always had the ball in my hand. So it took me time to get comfortable with that and get comfortable with saying, 'All right, LeBron, you take it.' … Yesterday, Coach called a play in the huddle for LeBron. He wound up saying, 'No, I want D-Wade to have it right here.'" -Dwyane Wade, after game 4

LMAO and i bet he wants that play back too after wade missed a free throw and then fumbled the ball away

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 04:30 PM
As a Cavs fan told me the other day, Lebron doesn't have a problem dominating inferior opponents. That's when he's at his best.

When faced with a challenge, he is a coward.
You seem to be suggesting that Boston and Chicago aren't challenges.
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vailpass
06-09-2011, 04:31 PM
Sounds like something I'd do. You know who also didn't win a title for the first 6 years of his career?
Posted via Mobile Device

LMAO

ChiefsCountry
06-09-2011, 04:31 PM
You seem to be suggesting that Boston and Chicago aren't challenges.
Posted via Mobile Device

Celtics have been the best team the Heat have played in the playoffs.

loochy
06-09-2011, 04:32 PM
Sounds like something I'd do. You know who also didn't win a title for the first 6 years of his career?
Posted via Mobile Device

Keith Van Horn.

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 04:54 PM
"He makes the decisions for our team. Whether he wants to shoot or whether he wants to pass. … He's a great player. He's 6-8, he can see over the defense and he's a great passer. … Normally I was the guy here in Miami. At the end of games I always had the ball in my hand. So it took me time to get comfortable with that and get comfortable with saying, 'All right, LeBron, you take it.' … Yesterday, Coach called a play in the huddle for LeBron. He wound up saying, 'No, I want D-Wade to have it right here.'" -Dwyane Wade, after game 4

That is Wade being nice. You can tell on the floor who is the boss and who is not.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 05:10 PM
LeBron "surfed the net to read articles about himself to get motivated."

Assclown LMAO

Los Pollos Hermanos
06-09-2011, 05:15 PM
“Everyone is injured at this time; I’m not going to get into the fun-loving story of him being sick,” Wade said. “Once you show up on the court, you show up on the court. Everyone is equal. He’s a great player without all the dramatics of the stories that’s been going on.”

Says the guy who was taken from the court in a wheelchair after injuring his shoulder.

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/200702220938.jpg

vailpass
06-09-2011, 05:16 PM
Keith Van Horn.

LMAO

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-09-2011, 05:27 PM
LeBron "surfed the net to read articles about himself to get motivated."

Assclown LMAO

Reporter: Lebron, what motivated you to play this well tonight?

Lebron: I stopped by ChiefsPlanet to get my daily updates on politics, sports, dating advice, and of course poop threads. Saw my boy Red 5 bad mouthin me and it set me off.\

Red 5: FUUUUUUUU

Los Pollos Hermanos
06-09-2011, 05:48 PM
I hope the Mavs fuck LeBron harder then Delante fucked his mama.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 05:52 PM
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/5171/yestheydid.jpg

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 06:04 PM
Lebron is going to kill tonight. Can't wait!

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 06:08 PM
Lebron is going to kill tonight.

I'm sorry that he will ruin your evening.

chiefzilla1501
06-09-2011, 06:14 PM
People are hating him because he's a giant flopping bitch who thinks he's entitled to a title and now that he's failing miserably people are enjoying it. Immensely.


He's a giant flopping bitch
He thinks he's entitled to a title
For the second straight year, he has noticeably given up on games--stood by the 3-point line and didn't play any kind of defense
He's actually been compared to MJ. Seriously, what the fuck
He dicked over loyal fans and decided that an egotistic announcement of his decision was more important than telling his teammates or the owner who coddled him his entire career
See above point... choosing your ego over your team is the ultimate sports sin
Because he actually carries an entourage who get treated better than his own teammates
Because he asked his owner in Cleveland to build a practice facility that was convenient for him
Because his dick is so far up ESPN's ass that they actually retracted a story about him a few weeks after "the decision" because it cast him in a bad light
Because he ditched a loyal city of diehard NBA fans for a Hollywood city where fans can't even show up to the game on time, and (minus LeBron) don't even care enough about the team to show up to a playoff game
Because he cries on 99% of fouls called against him and not called against him. In an annoying pouty face. Even when the contact was blatant and obvious.
Because he treats meaningless dunks like he just won the lottery
Because he is such a little brat that Cleveland had to coddle him. And his pouting made Spoelstra's job more difficult than it had to be.
Because he refuses to acknowledge how much he dicked over Cleveland by stalling on signing an extension and not announcing until the very last minute that he was leaving (leaving Cleveland with a shitload of cap space, but no opportunity to get any marquee free agents). And then despite that, he pretends that he wishes the Cavs well.
Because a free agent colluding with superstars to build a superpower is everything that is wrong with basketball
Because he took the easy way out and decided to "fix" a championship instead of being determined to finish what he started


But of course, haters just want to hate. For no good reason.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 06:16 PM
http://i51.tinypic.com/6p59wk.jpg

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 06:20 PM
Bosh loves cock.

http://i54.tinypic.com/14t55rk.jpg

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 06:51 PM
Lebron is such an outstanding defender.

http://i53.tinypic.com/vd0ok5.jpg

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 07:06 PM
Sure I am that this day - now we are the masters of our fate; that the task which has been set us is not above our strength; that its pangs and toils are not beyond our endurance. As long as we have faith in our cause and an unconquerable will-power, salvation will not be denied us. In the words of the Psalmist, 'He shall not be afraid of evil tidings; his heart is fixed, trusting in the Lord.' Not all the tidings will be evil.

What kind of a people do they think we are? Is it possible they do not realise that we shall never cease to persevere against them until they have been taught a lesson which they and the world will never forget?

Here we are together facing a group of mighty foes who seek our ruin; here we are together defending all that to free men is dear.

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 07:39 PM
Lebron is such an outstanding defender.

http://i53.tinypic.com/vd0ok5.jpg
Does Dirk even play defense?

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 07:53 PM
Does Dirk even play defense?

http://i55.tinypic.com/21o4jfq.jpg

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 07:55 PM
IT'S TIME BITCHES

THE BASKETBALL TERMINATOR IS COMING

http://i55.tinypic.com/x5qxs2.jpg

kstater
06-09-2011, 07:57 PM
Time for my yearly tradition of not watching a single minute of NBA until it matters to begin.

Arsonist
06-09-2011, 07:58 PM
Game time hope labron puts up another huge 8 points!

Arsonist
06-09-2011, 08:01 PM
Time for my yearly tradition of not watching a single minute of NBA until it matters to begin.

So 5mins left in the 4th?!?

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 08:04 PM
Time for Greatness.

http://www.nba.com/heat/photos/hpg1011_james4_mediaday_100927.jpg

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 08:05 PM
Dakcman shouldn't you use Wade's picture instead? :D

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:06 PM
Labron and Wade mocked Dirk's fever. Assholes. 1:13

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Cppinwc1PzY?hd=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 08:09 PM
Why is Mike Bibby even playing in this game?

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:10 PM
Airball Lebron? LMAO

Arsonist
06-09-2011, 08:11 PM
Both teams look like shit atm

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 08:12 PM
Bosh needs to make those.

Arsonist
06-09-2011, 08:12 PM
Kidd 2 steals 5 pts so far!

kstater
06-09-2011, 08:13 PM
Brilliant play by LeBron there. Leave Kidd alone for the 3 to cherry pick a dunk.

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 08:13 PM
You would think Dallas would learn to get back quickly on D

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 08:13 PM
LMAO Marion schools Bron

Arsonist
06-09-2011, 08:13 PM
Labron just got schooled haha

-King-
06-09-2011, 08:13 PM
Dirk is hot
LeBron is cherry picking
Marion is still making LeBron his bitch

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:14 PM
Miami's defense is a sieve and James can't hit shit.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:16 PM
Hey lebitch:

http://i56.tinypic.com/2ag6ee8.jpg

-King-
06-09-2011, 08:23 PM
Has Chandler ever made both of his FTs?

kstater
06-09-2011, 08:23 PM
Guess you need to bolt yourself to the floor to get that call.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:23 PM
LOL fucking awful call.

Al Bundy
06-09-2011, 08:24 PM
Charge.... ohh wait Wade flopped to the side and got the call.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:25 PM
THE JANITOR CLEANS IT UP BITCHES

-King-
06-09-2011, 08:26 PM
Isn't that a blocking foul? WTF? That should have been an and 1 for Terry.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:27 PM
James, Bosh, Wade: 4-12

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:29 PM
HAHAHAHA....that's what you get for making fun of Dirk, Wade.

kstater
06-09-2011, 08:29 PM
LeBron's crutch leaves the court.

Mr. Arrowhead
06-09-2011, 08:29 PM
D Soft

Arsonist
06-09-2011, 08:29 PM
lol wade hurts himself flopping

-King-
06-09-2011, 08:29 PM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/4/6/c2ec84c7-8b5c-4f2e-b6ee-06c607efdccf.jpg

WhitiE
06-09-2011, 08:30 PM
any way I can watch something other than the weather? Live feeds anywhere?

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 08:30 PM
so sad

And Chalmers gets bitched out by Lebron.

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 08:31 PM
I wonder if Mike Miller will actually show his basketball skill at some point this season.

-King-
06-09-2011, 08:33 PM
LeBron passing up the shot with the shot clock going down.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:33 PM
lol, Chalmers is making more plays than James

Arsonist
06-09-2011, 08:34 PM
Labron is playing like he's in way over his head

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 08:35 PM
Chandler playing very good tonight

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 08:36 PM
Chalmers is a muthafucking buzzer BEAST

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 08:36 PM
MARIO

Sure-Oz
06-09-2011, 08:36 PM
Brian Cardinal needs to stay on the bench

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:36 PM
What the FUCK

God dammit.

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 08:36 PM
LMAO

-King-
06-09-2011, 08:36 PM
Oh shit Chalmers

Al Bundy
06-09-2011, 08:36 PM
Haha

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 08:36 PM
Dallas shooting 67% and still down 1 at the end of the 1st. LMAO

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 08:36 PM
Brian Cardinal needs to stay on the bench
Yeah...he was there for a reason for the entire playoffs.

kstater
06-09-2011, 08:37 PM
Just throwing up prayers with those miracle 3's.

Mr. Arrowhead
06-09-2011, 08:37 PM
if chalmers would realize every shot was a buzzer shot, he would be a NBA all star

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 08:37 PM
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/NCAA+Basketball+Tournament+Championship+Game+-C5Var9OsMFl.jpg

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:37 PM
Dallas shooting 67% and still down 1 at the end of the 1st. LMAO

Gotta keep Juwan Howard and Mario Chalmers hot. :#

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:38 PM
Lebron has 2 points. LMAO

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 08:41 PM
LMAO Another crazy 3 made

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 08:41 PM
Lebron has 2 points. LMAO
4 points with 5 rebounds and 3 assists.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:41 PM
Terry holy fuck

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 08:41 PM
Damn, Bosh is such a pussy. They need Wade.

WhitiE
06-09-2011, 08:42 PM
!!!!!

Sure-Oz
06-09-2011, 08:42 PM
can anyone on dallas hit a FT

-King-
06-09-2011, 08:43 PM
I dont trust Barea at all.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:45 PM
If Wade can't move by all means put him on the court.

DBOSHO
06-09-2011, 08:45 PM
What happened to wade?

dirk digler
06-09-2011, 08:45 PM
If Wade does come back the first time down the floor they need to foul his ass hard

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:46 PM
What happened to wade?

Karma.

loochy
06-09-2011, 08:46 PM
What happened to wade?
He charged cardinal but cardinal stood like a man and put wade on his ass

Los Pollos Hermanos
06-09-2011, 08:46 PM
What happened to wade?

Bruised vagina.


- CFoD -

DBOSHO
06-09-2011, 08:47 PM
Lol really though, what happened?

loochy
06-09-2011, 08:48 PM
Lol really though, what happened?

I just told you

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:48 PM
Hahaha...on the shitty call against Cardinal. KARMA BITCH

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 08:49 PM
Bosh loves Mahimni's futile attempt to guard him.

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 08:49 PM
CHALMERS

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 08:50 PM
That's a weak call on Miller.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 08:51 PM
Eddie House sighting ROFL

Arsonist
06-09-2011, 08:51 PM
Brused hip

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:53 PM
Mavs shooting 64 percent. Heat cannot stay with us if we keep it up.

KurtCobain
06-09-2011, 08:53 PM
I didn't see a shootout like this happening.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:55 PM
Barea just kills us. Kidd NOW.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:56 PM
Another bullshit foul. Fuck you Wade.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 08:58 PM
Another bullshit foul. Fuck you Wade.

Terry fell for the pump fake and wasn't jumping straight up. Complaining about that one is just stupid.

KC_Connection
06-09-2011, 08:58 PM
House in...I guess Spoelstra finally figured out Bibby was completely useless.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2011, 08:59 PM
Dirk, shoot it god dammit.

TERRY IS LOSING THIS GAME

Al Bundy
06-09-2011, 08:59 PM
Jason Terry got scared on that one.

WhitiE
06-09-2011, 09:00 PM
why does dirk not shoot that? or at least jump into the guy trying to block and cause contact

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2011, 09:00 PM
Jason Terry got scared on that one.

That's Lebron having an effect that isn't recordable on a stat sheet.