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Coogs
04-18-2011, 09:54 AM
But you have to be a subscriber to the paper to get it. Maybe someone form the Dallas area could give us Gosselin's 1st. Can't remember if Mock #1 is the need based one, but I think it is.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/nfl-draft/20110417-rick-gosselin_s-mock-draft-no.-1-cowboys-will-take-ot-tyron-smith.ece

Chiefnj2
04-18-2011, 01:17 PM
Mock #1 is based on his top 32 players. You get whoever corresponds to his top player. #2, IIRC is based on need and the final is based on his insider scoop.

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2011, 01:24 PM
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could you post the mock?

Coogs
04-18-2011, 01:50 PM
Get Subscriber Content access to read this story

could you post the mock?

I can't. But I believe AustinChief posted his top 5 players at each position a couple of weeks ago. Thought someone like him could maybe post it.

DTLB58
04-18-2011, 07:09 PM
Wow! It's come to this? People actually want to get paid to see a focking mock draft?!

This guy got eight, count em, (8) right in the first round last year in his last mock and he and or the company he works for, wants us to pay for his first mock now? ROFL

Good luck with that.

Coogs
04-18-2011, 07:12 PM
Wow! It's come to this? People actually want to get paid to see a focking mock draft?!

This guy got eight, count em, (8) right in the first round last year in his last mock and he and or the company he works for, wants us to pay for his first mock now? ROFL

Good luck with that.

It's not just his mock. It appears the Dallas newspaper has went the subscription route for a lot of thier content on the website.

DTLB58
04-18-2011, 07:19 PM
It's not just his mock. It appears the Dallas newspaper has went the subscription route for a lot of thier content on the website.

Gotcha, Just venting...Wasn't meant to be towards anyone personal here.

I noticed on espn's site the other day also more and more stuff is subscriber content only. Just irks me when they are already getting paid. I could see it if they just launched a website of their own and it's the only way for them to get some $.

Mr. Laz
04-18-2011, 07:42 PM
It's not just his mock. It appears the Dallas newspaper has went the subscription route for a lot of thier content on the website.
so did the NY Times i think

Heard it was like 15 dollars a month for it ... fuck that.

Fumblerooski
04-18-2011, 08:35 PM
Found this so far... I'll keep digging.


Here is the first of three mock draftt by The Dallas Morning News this month. The first mock draft is based on Rick's draft board of the top 32 players, the second focuses more on team needs and third is how Goose sees the draft playing out.

First Mock Draft:

1) Carolina...................Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2) Denver.....................Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama
3) Buffalo.....................Von Miller, OLB, Texas A & M
4) Cincinnati................A J Green, WR, Georgia
5) Arizona....................Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
6) Cleveland................Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
7) San Francisco.........Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina
8) Tennessee..............Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
9) Dallas....................Tyron Smith, OT, Southern Cal
10) Washington..........Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
19) N Y Giants...........Mike Pouncey, C, Florida
23)Philadelphia......... Muhammad Wilkerson, DE, Temple

Second Mock Draft..........next Sunday
Third Mock Draft..............draft day

Draft details:

Thursday April 28th....7:30 PM EST(could be moved back to 8:00 PM EST) First Round
Friday April 29th........6:00 PM EST......Rounds Two and Three
Saturday April 30th....10:00 AM EST...Rounds Four thru Seven

The NFL will be broadcast live on both the NFL Network and ESPN
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Fumblerooski
04-18-2011, 08:36 PM
Didn't take too much digging...


Goose Gosselin:

The first mock is based on my draft board of the top 32 players, the second uses team needs as the more important determinant, and the third is how I see the draft actually playing out for each team (some teams draft for need, some draft best available player):

1. Carolina: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn - NFL’s worst passing attack gets a new trigger

2. Denver : Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama - Broncos going to 4-3 front and need linemen

3. Buffalo: Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M - Bills went to Super Bowls with OLB Cornelius Bennett

4. Cincinnati: A.J. Green, WR, Georgia - Time to turn the page from aging WRs Owens, Ochocinco

5. Arizona: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri - Cards are wasting Larry Fitzgerald without a QB

6. Cleveland : Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU - Sheldon Brown showing some age at cornerback

7. San Francisco: Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina - The 49ers sorely need an edge rusher

8. Tennessee: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn - Best inside pass rusher in the draft

9. Cowboys: Tyron Smith, OT, Southern Cal - America’s Team needs to get younger up front

10. Washington: Julio Jones, WR, Alabama - Redskins need size, physicality on the flank

11. Houston: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska - The NFL’s worst pass defense now has some royalty

12. Minnesota: Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College - More help for RB Adrian Peterson up front

13. Detroit: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado - The Lions need to keep QB Stafford upright and healthy

14. St. Louis: Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson - Best pass rusher in the draft becomes a sliding value

15. Miami: Mark Ingram, HB, Alabama - Pencil in Ingram as offensive rookie of the year

16. Jacksonville: J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin - Jags get bigger, tougher in the front seven

17. New England: Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal - Bill Belichick believes you win titles up front

18. San Diego: Ryan Kerrigan, OLB, Purdue - Chargers need to replace the rush of Shawne "roidman" Merriman

19. NY Giants: Mike Pouncey, C, Florida - A new anchor to stabilize an erratic offense

20. Tampa Bay: Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri - NFC’s worst pass rush gets some help

21. Kansas City: Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin - The NFL’s best rushing attack gets better up front

22. Indianapolis: Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois - Colts need bigger bodies for 25th-ranked run defense

23. Philadelphia: Muhammad Wilkerson, DE, Temple - D-line will get bigger under new coach Jim Washburn

24. New Orleans: Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina - Saints need bulk to compete in run-heavy NFC South

25. Seattle: Danny Watkins, G, Baylor - Maybe the safest pick on the entire board

26. Baltimore: Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado - Ravens get bigger, more physical at corner

27. Atlanta: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor - See the Saints at 24 — you need big bodies in the NFC South

28. New England: Ryan Williams, HB, Virginia Tech - Pats’ methodical rushing attack needs some big plays

29. Chicago: Jon Baldwin, WR, Pitt - Bears have speed on the flank; Baldwin gives them size

30. NY Jets : Aaron Williams, CB, Texas - Antonio Cromartie is a free agent

31. Pittsburgh : Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State - Time to start looking for Aaron Smith’s replacement

32. Green Bay: Brooks Reed, OLB, Arizona - The NFC’s best pass rush gets deeper

Chiefnj2
04-18-2011, 08:56 PM
I'm kind of surprised that Gosselin likes Newton more than Gabbert. Gabbert must have some real serious flaws for so many people to like Newton more.

Direckshun
04-18-2011, 09:09 PM
Ugh.

Cam Jordan falls to the Patriots. Gross.

Chiefshrink
04-18-2011, 11:24 PM
Sh****************t if Aldon Smith gets that close to us knowing Tampa needs DE's as well do you trade up to get him or stay put?

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-18-2011, 11:28 PM
Sh****************t if Aldon Smith gets that close to us knowing Tampa needs DE's as well do you trade up to get him or stay put?

Absolutely. The guy would wreck lives.

Chiefshrink
04-18-2011, 11:31 PM
Absolutely. The guy would wreck lives.

My thinking as well:thumb:

RippedmyFlesh
04-18-2011, 11:37 PM
If Carson Palmer is done with the Bengals I could see them going Gabbert instead of Green. I would if I were them.

Chiefshrink
04-19-2011, 12:51 AM
If Carson Palmer is done with the Bengals I could see them going Gabbert instead of Green. I would if I were them.

I see Gabbert going first in front of Cam. After the Vick,Young and JaFatass drama busts I don't see Riviera going with Cam and his questionable character.

Gabbert is a much safer pick and when you are in semi-rebuild mode Gabbert makes sense and I don't care if Cam can walk on water because his character (All about me) will sink himself and his team IMO.

salame
04-19-2011, 03:55 AM
I really think the Bengals owner thinks Carson is coming back
sad really because he isn't even very good anymore

factortobe
04-19-2011, 05:24 AM
Cam is to big of a risk, Panthers should go CB Pederson first then trade the Chiefs WR Smith and their 2nd round pick for our 1st round pick!

BigCatDaddy
04-19-2011, 08:04 AM
I'd say the first 2 picks are pretty much set at this point. The draft starts with Buffalo this year.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-19-2011, 08:17 AM
I'd say the first 2 picks are pretty much set at this point. The draft starts with Buffalo this year.

I don't. There are a bunch of ways that Denver could go.

They probably take Dareus, but they could just as easily select Peterson, Fairley, or even AJ Green. Demaryius Thomas' injury is one of the worst you can have for a position that requires explosiveness.

Coogs
04-19-2011, 08:24 AM
Cam is to big of a risk, Panthers should go CB Pederson first then trade the Chiefs WR Smith and their 2nd round pick for our 1st round pick!

Smith is nearing the end, and unless there is an agreement between now and next Thursday, no players can be traded for draft picks.

BigCatDaddy
04-19-2011, 08:29 AM
I don't. There are a bunch of ways that Denver could go.

They probably take Dareus, but they could just as easily select Peterson, Fairley, or even AJ Green. Demaryius Thomas' injury is one of the worst you can have for a position that requires explosiveness.

I would say about 90% Dareus and 10% Fairley here. Fox's best years were with that dominant D-Line so it makes since he goes back to what he believes works. They still have a solid WR core without Thomas. Peterson would be worth the pick, but like I said I think they value Dline over a DB.

doomy3
04-19-2011, 11:09 AM
I see Gabbert going first in front of Cam. After the Vick,Young and JaFatass drama busts I don't see Riviera going with Cam and his questionable character.

Gabbert is a much safer pick and when you are in semi-rebuild mode Gabbert makes sense and I don't care if Cam can walk on water because his character (All about me) will sink himself and his team IMO.

What exactly does Newton have in common with any of the 3 QBs you listed, other than skin color?

Dave Lane
04-19-2011, 11:15 AM
What exactly does Newton have in common with any of the 3 QBs you listed, other than skin color?

I think that's his point. That teams are going to shy away from black QBs because of his list.

Mr. Laz
04-19-2011, 11:17 AM
Sh****************t if Aldon Smith gets that close to us knowing Tampa needs DE's as well do you trade up to get him or stay put?
depends on whether you think Smith is athletic enough to play OLB in a 3-4 or not.

MagicHef
04-19-2011, 02:48 PM
I don't. There are a bunch of ways that Denver could go.

They probably take Dareus, but they could just as easily select Peterson, Fairley, or even AJ Green. Demaryius Thomas' injury is one of the worst you can have for a position that requires explosiveness.

Von Miller would be under consideration too, or at least I would hope so.

booger
04-24-2011, 01:16 PM
found this link on a post at A. Pride today. They linked to this
http://www.pewterreport.com/Boards/index.php/topic,1279769.0.html?PHPSESSID=3fa1i8g9mag2jj85pt4p6djr00




Updated: Rick Gosselin's position-by-position 2011 NFL draft rankings (4/15)
By RICK GOSSELIN / NFL Columnist

QUARTERBACK Ht. Wt.

1. Cam Newton, Auburn 6-5 248

2. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri 6-4 234

3. Jake Locker, Washington 6-2˝ 231

4. Christian Ponder, Fla St 6-2 229

5. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas 6-6˝ 253

6. Colin Kaepernick, Nevada 6-4˝ 233

7. Andy Dalton, TCU 6-2 215

8. Ricky Stanzi, Wisconsin 6-4 223

9. Nathan Enderle, Idaho 6-4 240

10. Pat Devlin, Delaware 6-3 225

Rising: Colin Kaepernick, Nevada

Falling: Josh Portis, Cal (PA)

Sleeper: Jeff Van Camp, Florida Atlantic

HALFBACK

1. Mark Ingram, Alabama 5-9 215

2. Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech 5-9 212

3. Daniel Thomas, Kansas State 6-0 230

4. Mikel Leshoure, Illinois 5-11˝ 227

5. Taiwan Jones, Eastern Washington 5-11˝ 194

6. Shane Vereen, Cal 5-10 210

7. Kendall Hunter, Oklahoma State 5-7 199

8. Demarco Murray, Oklahoma 5-11˝ 213

9. Bilal Powell, Louisville 5-10˝ 209

10. Dion Lewis, Pitt 5-6˝ 193

Rising: Taiwan Jones, Eastern Washington

Falling: John Clay, Wisconsin

Sleeper: Jay Finley, Baylor

FULLBACK

1. Anthony Sherman, Connecticut 5-10 242

2. Owen Marecic, Stanford 6-0˝ 248

3. Henry Hynoski, Pitt 6-0 257

4. Shaun Chapas, Georgia 6-2 247

5. Stanley Mavili, Southern Cal 6-0 227

Sleeper: Bryant Ward, Oklahoma State

WIDE RECEIVER

1. A.J. Green, Georgia 6-3˝ 211

2. Julio Jones, Alabama 6-2˝ 220

3. Jon Baldwin, Pitt 6-4 228

4. Torrey Smith, Maryland 6-0˝ 204

5. Titus Young, Boise State 5-11 174

6. Edmond Gates, Abilene Christian 5-11˝ 192

7. Randall Cobb, Kentucky 5-10 191

8. Tandon Doss, Indiana 6-0 201

9. Vincent Brown, San Diego State 5-11 187

10. Leonard Hankerson, Miami-F 6-1˝ 209

Rising: Randall Cobb, Kentucky

Falling: Greg Little, North Carolina

Sleeper: Ricardo Lockette, Fort Valley State

TIGHT END

1. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame 6-6 259

2. Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin 6-2˝ 243

3. Luke Stocker, Tennessee 6-4˝ 258

4. Jordan Cameron, Southern Cal 6-5 254

5. Rob Housler, Florida Atlantic 6-5 248

6. D.J. Williams, Arkansas 6-2 245

7. Charles Clay, Tulsa 6-2˝ 245

6. Lee Smith, Marshall 6-5˝ 266

9. Virgil Green, Nevada 6-3 249

10. Julius Thomas, Portland State 6-4˝ 246

Rising: Rob Housler, Florida Atlantic

Falling: Weslye Saunders, South Carolina

Sleeper: Colin Cochart, South Dakota State

OFFENSIVE TACKLE

1. Tyron Smith, Southern Cal 6-5 307

2. Nate Solder, Colorado 6-8 319

3. Anthony Castonzo, Boston College 6-7 311

4. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin 6-7 314

5. Derrick Sherrod, Mississippi State 6-5 321

6. James Carpenter, Alabama 6-4 321

7. Orlando Franklin, Miami-F 6-5˝ 316

8. Marcus Gilbert, Florida 6-6 330

9. Jah Reid, Central Florida 6-7 321

10. James Brewer, Indiana 6-6 323

Rising: Jah Reid, Central Florida

Falling: Demarcus Love, Arkansas

Sleeper: David Arkin, Missouri State

GUARD

1. Danny Watkins, Baylor 6-3 310

2. Marcus Cannon, TCU 6-5 358

3. William Rackley, Lehigh 6-3 309

4. Ben Ijalana, Villanova 6-3˝ 317

5. John Moffitt, Wisconsin 6-4 319

6. Clint Boling, Georgia 6-4˝ 308

7. Andrew Jackson, Fresno State 6-5 299

8. Ray Dominguez, Arkansas 6-4 334

9. Caleb Schlauderaff, Utah 6-4 305

10. Carl Johnson, Florida 6-5 361

Rising: Mike Berry, Auburn

Falling: Steve Schilling, Michigan

Sleeper: Cameron Bradfield, Grand Valley State

CENTER

1. Mike Pouncey, Florida 6-5 303

2. Stefen Wisniewski, Penn State 6-3 313

3. Rodney Hudson, Florida State 6-2 299

4. Brandon Fusco, Slippery Rock 6-4 306

5. Jason Kelce, Cincinnati 6-2˝ 280

6. Kris O’Dowd, Southern Cal 6-4 304

7. Jake Kirkpatrick, TCU 6-1˝ 300

8. Ryan Bartholomew, Syracuse 6-1 302

9. Alex Linnenkohl, Oregon State 6-1˝ 304

10. Tim Barnes, Missouri 6-3˝ 298

Rising: Brandon Fusco, Slippery Rock

Falling: Kris O’Dowd, Southern Cal

Sleeper: Colin Baxter, Arizona

DEFENSIVE END

1. Robert Quinn, North Carolina 6-4 265

2. Da’Quan Bowers, Clemson 6-3 280

3. J.J. Watt, Wisconsin 6-5 290

4. Aldon Smith, Missouri 6-4 263

5. Cameron Jordan, Cal 6-4 287

6. Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue 6-3˝ 267

7. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa 6-2˝ 281

8. Cameron Heyward, Ohio State 6-4˝ 294

9. Brooks Reed, Arizona 6-2˝ 263

10. Christian Ballard, Iowa 6-3˝ 283

Rising: Brooks Reed, Arizona

Falling: Jeremy Beal, Oklahoma

Sleeper: Bruce Miller, Central Florida

DEFENSIVE TACKLE

1. Marcell Dareus, Alabama 6-3 319

2. Nick Fairley, Auburn 6-3˝ 291

3. Corey Liuget, Illinois 6-2 298

4. Phil Taylor, Baylor 6-3 334

5. Marvin Austin, North Carolina 6-1˝ 309

6. Muhammad Wilkerson, Temple 6-4 315

7. Kenrick Ellis, Hampton 6-4˝ 346

8. Jarvis Jenkins, Clemson 6-4 310

9. Stephen Paea, Oregon State 6-1 303

10. Terrell McClain, South Florida 6-1˝ 297

Rising: Muhammad Wilkerson, Temple

Falling: Ian Williams, Notre Dame

Sleeper: Zach Clayton, Auburn

OUTSIDE LINEBACKER

1. Von Miller, Texas A&M 6-2˝ 246

2. Akeem Ayers, UCLA 6-2˝ 254

3. Martez Wilson, Illinois 6-3˝ 250

4. Bruce Carter, North Carolina 6-1˝ 241

5. K.J. Wright, Mississippi State 6-3 246

6. Colin McCarthy, Miami-F 6-1 238

7. Jabaal Sheard, Pitt 6-2˝ 264

8. Kelvin Sheppard, LSU 6-1˝ 250

9. Mason Foster, Washington 6-1 245

10. Jonas Mouton, Michigan 6-1 239

Rising: K.J. Wright, Mississippi State

Falling: Scott Lutrus, Connecticut

Sleeper: Jabara Williams, Stephen F. Austin

INSIDE/MIDDLE LINEBACKER

1. Akeem Dent, Georgia 6-1 242

2. Ross Homan, Ohio State 6-0˝ 240

3. Casey Matthews, Oregon 6-0˝ 231

4. Nate Irving, North Carolina State 6-1 240

5. Chris White, Mississippi State 6-2˝ 240

6. Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina 6-1 241

7. Greg Jones, Michigan State 6-0 242

8. Jeff Tarpinian, Iowa 6-2 235

9. Greg Lloyd, Connecticut 6-1 246

10. Elijah Joseph, Temple 6-1 243

Rising: Jeff Tarpinian, Iowa

Falling: Greg Jones, Michigan State

Sleeper: Matt Berning, Central Michigan

CORNERBACK

1. Patrick Peterson, LSU 6-0 219

2. Prince Amukamara, Nebraska 6-0 206

3. Jimmy Smith, Colorado 6-2 211

4. Aaron Williams, Texas 5-11˝ 204

5. Ras-I Dowling, Virginia 6-1 198

6. Brandon Harris, Miami-F 5-9˝ 191

7. Shareece Wright, Southern Cal 5-10˝ 185

8. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson 5-10 195

9. Chris Culliver, South Carolina 6-0 199

10. Jalil Brown, Colorado 6-0˝ 204

Rising: Josh Thomas, Buffalo

Falling: Kendric Burney, North Carolina

Sleeper: Justin Rogers, Richmond

SAFETY

1. Rahim Moore, UCLA 5-11˝ 202

2. Quinton Carter, Oklahoma 6-0˝ 208

3. Jaiquawn Jarrett, Temple 5-11˝ 198

4. Tyler Sash, Iowa 6-0 211

5. Chris Conte, Cal 6-2 197

6. DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson 6-0 217

7. Robert Sands, West Virginia 6-4 217

8. Jermale Hines, Ohio State 6-1 219

9. Da’Norris Searcy, North Carolina 5-10˝ 223

10. Joe Lefeged, Rutgers 5-10˝ 210

Rising: Chris Prosinski, Wyoming

Falling: Ahmad Black, Florida

Sleeper: Isa Abdul-El Quddus, Fordham

KICKER

1. Matt Bosher, Miami-F 6-0 193

2. Dan Bailey, Oklahoma State 6-0˝ 208

3. Kai Forbath, UCLA 6-1˝ 197

4. Josh Jasper, LSU 5-10 174

5. Reid Forrest, Washington State 6-0 189

PUNTER

1. Chas Henry, Florida 6-3 219

2. Ryan Donahue, Iowa 6-1˝ 193

3. Aaron Bates, Michigan State 6-0 200

4. Michael Such, Tulsa 6-1˝ 204

5. Trevor Hankins, Arizona State 6-3˝ 235

DEEP SNAPPER

1. Danny Aiken, Virginia 6-4 244

2. Corey Adams, Kansas State 6-4 250

3. Andrew Schulze, Iowa 6-4˝ 260

4. Jake McQuaide, Ohio State 6-2˝ 239

5. Christian Yount, UCLA 6-0 243

Marcellus
04-24-2011, 06:36 PM
What exactly does Newton have in common with any of the 3 QBs you listed, other than skin color?

Aside from skin color you don't see any similarities to Cam and the players listed?

Seriously?

Count Zarth
04-25-2011, 07:44 AM
RE: Carimi, doesn't sound like a Pioli player:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/gabe-carimi-68/

Has a white-collar mentality at a blue-collar position and carries an inflated opinion of himself. Thinks he is better than he is and came off as arrogant and selfish in interviews at the Combine. Durability is concerning — was consistently slowed by injuries.

ct
04-25-2011, 10:02 AM
Cam is to big of a risk, Panthers should go CB Pederson first then trade the Chiefs WR Smith and their 2nd round pick for our 1st round pick!

They already did that last year, moving back into the end of 1st round, which is why the Pats have #33. Nice dream tho!

Direckshun
04-25-2011, 10:05 AM
Has he released his second mock, yet?

Help?

Fumblerooski
04-25-2011, 10:10 AM
Has he released his second mock, yet?

Help?

The 2nd came out this morning. I've been looking around other boards to see if anyone Has posted it yet, but haven't found it.

keg in kc
04-25-2011, 10:37 AM
His second mock is the one he creates using info garnered from sources, correct?

ChiefsCountry
04-25-2011, 10:39 AM
His second mock is the one he creates using info garnered from sources, correct?

No the one that will come out last is the source one. This is his opinion one.

keg in kc
04-25-2011, 10:42 AM
Ahh, I didn't remember him doing three (or more).

Mile High Mania
04-25-2011, 10:44 AM
Ahh, I didn't remember him doing three (or more).

He always does three... I'm trying to find it as well.

Fumblerooski
04-25-2011, 11:19 AM
While I still can't find the entire list, I saw a preview of it that gave us Phil Taylor in Mock # 2... I'll keep looking

Direckshun
04-25-2011, 11:27 AM
He has Phil Taylor going to the Chiefs.

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/04/latest-rick-gosselin-mock-draft-drops-am.html

So the 2nd mock is clearly based on need.

The third comes out Draft Day, right?

Ebolapox
04-25-2011, 11:33 AM
He has Phil Taylor going to the Chiefs.

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/04/latest-rick-gosselin-mock-draft-drops-am.html

So the 2nd mock is clearly based on need.

The third comes out Draft Day, right?

if memory serves properly, yeah.

Mile High Mania
04-25-2011, 11:50 AM
He has Phil Taylor going to the Chiefs.

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/04/latest-rick-gosselin-mock-draft-drops-am.html

So the 2nd mock is clearly based on need.

The third comes out Draft Day, right?

It should be pretty clear, the article did state "In his latest mock draft, Gosselin is basing his predictions more on team needs..."
:thumb:

Fumblerooski
04-25-2011, 01:57 PM
Full 2nd Mock..


Gosselin's 2nd Mock Draft:

1. Carolina: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2. Denver: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
3. Buffalo: Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama
4. Cincinnati: Von Miller, OLB, Texas A
5. Arizona : A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
6. Cleveland : Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
7. San Francisco: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
8. Tennessee: Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina
9. Cowboys: J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
10. Washington: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
11. Houston: Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal
12. Minnesota: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
13. Detroit: Tyron Smith, OT, Southern Cal
14. St. Louis: Ryan Kerrigan, OLB, Purdue
15. Miami: Mike Pouncey, C, Florida
16. Jacksonville: Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
17. New England: Mark Ingram, HB, Alabama
18. San Diego : Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
19. New York Giants: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
20. Tampa Bay: Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois
21. Kansas City: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor
22. Indianapolis: Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri
23. Philadelphia: Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
24. New Orleans: Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
25. Seattle : Derrick Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
26. Baltimore: Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
27. Atlanta: Kenrick Ellis, DT, Hampton
28. New England: Danny Watkins, G, Baylor
29. Chicago: Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple
30. New York Jets: Brooks Reed, OLB, Arizona
31. Pittsburgh : Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
32. Green Bay: James Carpenter, OT, Alabama

Fumblerooski
04-25-2011, 01:58 PM
Quite a fall for ol' Blaine...

BigCatDaddy
04-25-2011, 02:10 PM
I know it's a needs draft, but Ellis is really climbing the boards.

Is Taylor really that better of a NT prospect then Ellis?

Direckshun
04-25-2011, 02:50 PM
HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

That's TWO of Gosselin's drafts... Aldon Smith has come out at #20 in his first, and #21 in his second.

Aldon Smith went off the board at #20 in Peter King's Mock.

This could get VERY interesting....

Saccopoo
04-26-2011, 08:15 AM
HOLY ****ING SHIT.

That's TWO of Gosselin's drafts... Aldon Smith has come out at #20 in his first, and #21 in his second.

Aldon Smith went off the board at #20 in Peter King's Mock.

This could get VERY interesting....

What's interesting about that? I mean, to induce a "HOLY FUCKING SHIT" comment, it's got to be something utterly spectacular...

OnTheWarpath58
04-26-2011, 08:53 AM
Full 2nd Mock..


Gosselin's 2nd Mock Draft:

1. Carolina: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2. Denver: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
3. Buffalo: Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama
4. Cincinnati: Von Miller, OLB, Texas A
5. Arizona : A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
6. Cleveland : Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
7. San Francisco: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
8. Tennessee: Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina
9. Cowboys: J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
10. Washington: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
11. Houston: Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal
12. Minnesota: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
13. Detroit: Tyron Smith, OT, Southern Cal
14. St. Louis: Ryan Kerrigan, OLB, Purdue
15. Miami: Mike Pouncey, C, Florida
16. Jacksonville: Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
17. New England: Mark Ingram, HB, Alabama
18. San Diego : Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
19. New York Giants: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
20. Tampa Bay: Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois
21. Kansas City: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor
22. Indianapolis: Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri
23. Philadelphia: Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
24. New Orleans: Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
25. Seattle : Derrick Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
26. Baltimore: Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
27. Atlanta: Kenrick Ellis, DT, Hampton
28. New England: Danny Watkins, G, Baylor
29. Chicago: Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple
30. New York Jets: Brooks Reed, OLB, Arizona
31. Pittsburgh : Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
32. Green Bay: James Carpenter, OT, Alabama

First, I rarely post during draft weekend. It's usually late in the proceedings before I get on.

Second, I'm pretty apathetic about this draft. There aren't a ton of guys that excite me. The only way I see myself giving a shit is if we were to take an offensive lineman in R1. It's a wasted pick, this team needs SO much more.

Third, this place is always a clusterfuck during the draft, regardless of who's posting and who's not.

Ultimately, the batteries in my "give a fuck" meter are running really low. I'll watch, but it will take something pretty stupid to get me fired up.


Passing on Aldon Smith - much less for Phil Taylor - would fire me the fuck up.